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woke up and seen a barrel of oil up around 1.50 to 63.55 so a ran down to the gas station...... 2.56 for basic unleaded gas. This is freaking getting insane.

i was wondering though anyone know the prices on East and west coast. (even though i think chicago prices are around the same)

heres a question

do all cars get about the same gas millage (if you stop and go alot driving in the city). I deliver papers and the car im driving right now only gets around
11-12 MPG. I drive around 60 miles per day Stopping and going x 6 days a week. Last month i blew like 360 bucks just in gas alone..

anyone know a way to get better gas mileage

(i already got the car tuned up, Got the right air in tires )

thanks
 
No, all cars don't get the same gas mileage. For 'consumer' vehicles, it ranges from 5-10 miles a gallon, to 60 or so in a very few cases.
I'm getting about 27-30 [BMW 318ti], my wife gets about 16-20 [Buick Rendezvous].
Couple things you can do to help:
* Keep your oil changed.
* Keep your engine in good working order.
* Minimize the A/C usage.
* Don't drive fast with the windows open.
* Make sure your tires are inflated correctly.
* Don't speed. Try to keep a steady speed, about 55.
* Minimize the stop-and-go driving.
* If you're going to be stopped/idle more than 2 minutes or so [drive through, car wash], kill the engine. You use less gas starting it up again than letting it idle.
* Or, of course, drive less, carpool, get a different car.

I see it around 2.22-2.32 around here [just south of Raleigh NC.]

And don't forget, we've still got it good--if I'm doing the conversions quickly, it looks like gas in London, for example, is at least 6.50/gallon or so over there [someone who knows more about world currency feel free to check my math.]

You can go to gaspricewatch.com to check gas prices in various places by entering an address or zip code.
 
[quote name='dtcarson']No, all cars don't get the same gas mileage. For 'consumer' vehicles, it ranges from 5-10 miles a gallon, to 60 or so in a very few cases.
I'm getting about 27-30 [BMW 318ti], my wife gets about 16-20 [Buick Rendezvous].
Couple things you can do to help:
* Keep your oil changed.
* Keep your engine in good working order.
* Minimize the A/C usage.
* Don't drive fast with the windows open.
* Make sure your tires are inflated correctly.
* Don't speed. Try to keep a steady speed, about 55.
* Minimize the stop-and-go driving.
* If you're going to be stopped/idle more than 2 minutes or so [drive through, car wash], kill the engine. You use less gas starting it up again than letting it idle.
* Or, of course, drive less, carpool, get a different car.

I see it around 2.22-2.32 around here [just south of Raleigh NC.]

And don't forget, we've still got it good--if I'm doing the conversions quickly, it looks like gas in London, for example, is at least 6.50/gallon or so over there [someone who knows more about world currency feel free to check my math.][/QUOTE]

not to bash your post , but im sick of people saying oo we got it so good cause it cost 6.50 per gallon in england YET they dont say how much more money they make over there.

well gas here like i said is 2.56 if it goes up 19 more cents and stays there im out of a job (i already told people if gas hits 2.75 or higher Im thinking about quiting cause they already said they WILL NOT HELP OUT WITH GAS.

i make around 1100 bucks per month on the route and Gas and insurance is running me almost 450-500 per month. I mean right there half my money just goes in running the car.... Im getting the Same amount of money i did when i started this freaking job back in 1994 when gas was under 1.00
 
Not to mention that European workers get, on average, 2-4 weeks more vacation per year, and have better health care...
 
[quote name='chickenhawk']heh! Nice! The cheapest gas listed on that site for the Chi-area is very close to me! Hooray for (relatively) cheap gas. Well, not really, but whatever!![/QUOTE]


You're lucky. I wish there were a Metra station close to where I work and my car would be parked, for sure!

It was crazy, because I was driving around this past weekend, and prices between gas stations less than a block away from each other were almost 15 cents per gallon different!!!

I think that, on average, Shell and BP are the highest around.
 
When we drove through Denver, it was 2.13. Around here, we have a place called 'U-Pump It' that has incredibly cheap gas, primarily since they only take cash.
 
[quote name='shieryda']This is fun: http://www.gasbuddy.com/[/QUOTE]

I remember seeing on the news somewhere that this year's higher gas pump prices hadn't really affected consumer spending like some retail stores had feared. The consensus is that people have accepted higher $2+ gas prices and will continue to buy gas-guzzling SUVs and such despite the increased fuel costs.

Personally, I feel that the recently increased gasoline prices are nothing more than big oil gouging consumers like Enron did with power in California five years ago. Granted, big oil hasn't recently created another entirely man-made gas shortage (like they did in the 70s for those that remember), but I can see it coming at some point. :cry:
 
Gas prices are fine, we had cheap fuel for a long long time, maybe people will be smarter in their car choices and driving habits now.
 
im going to call up my boss this week to get route maps and start to map the routes more. Take how much time it takes to do the route and compair that to how many miles are drove per day and how much we get paid to drive. I might give up one of my 3 routes

what makes me sick in a way is that they are allowed to add houses that are like 5-10 miles off your route and not give you an extra penny to pay for those gas cost. There are around 4 or 5 house that are on my route. It cost me more money to deliver their paper then im being paid
 
[quote name='daschrier']Gas prices are fine, we had cheap fuel for a long long time, maybe people will be smarter in their car choices and driving habits now.[/QUOTE]


tell me how you can change your driving habits when you use your car for work. this is another excuss that im sick of hearing. (again not to bash the person who posted this) .. i got around 25k in my bank and stock market and if i would take on a room mate and cut all my spending I probally could take a year off work and still have 15 k in my bank.

i would love to be able to find a place they sells video games wholesale and i could stay home all day just selling video games , but thats never going to happen
 
Sure would be nice if the government were to push change in our energy sources instead of just cozying up to Big Oil. Instead it's, "Drill in the arctic? Sure!" No way that will solve the problem long term, but of course they know that.
 
[quote name='secretvampire']Sure would be nice if the government were to push change in our energy sources instead of just cozying up to Big Oil. Instead it's, "Drill in the arctic? Sure!" No way that will solve the problem long term, but of course they know that.[/QUOTE]

Oil companies don't set prices by supply-and-demand.

They set prices by consumer expectation (IE there's a war - so that's why customers have to pay higher even though it's only partially true)

If you don't believe me, checkout Exxon's recent profit earnings reports.
 
nah we are probally giving that oil to other places so they will be our friend. I love how bush sends BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER THERE, Yet we got million of people in the USA living in the street and dont even have enough money to buy food. BUT WHO CARES ABOUT US IN THE USA LETS JUST GIVE THEM ANOTHER 100 BILLION
 
[quote name='camoor']Oil companies don't set prices by supply-and-demand.

They set prices by consumer expectation (IE there's a war - so that's why customers have to pay higher even though it's only partially true)

If you don't believe me, checkout Exxon's recent profit earnings reports.[/QUOTE]

From what I've seen it's usually the price of gasoline futures plus tax plus about $.05 or so. Also remember that it's a speculative market and that China's recent growth has a lot to do with it.
 
[quote name='slidecage']not to bash your post , but im sick of people saying oo we got it so good cause it cost 6.50 per gallon in england YET they dont say how much more money they make over there.

well gas here like i said is 2.56 if it goes up 19 more cents and stays there im out of a job (i already told people if gas hits 2.75 or higher Im thinking about quiting cause they already said they WILL NOT HELP OUT WITH GAS.

i make around 1100 bucks per month on the route and Gas and insurance is running me almost 450-500 per month. I mean right there half my money just goes in running the car.... Im getting the Same amount of money i did when i started this freaking job back in 1994 when gas was under 1.00[/QUOTE]

So if your life is so horrible over here, move over there.
Hell, you want to save lots of money, kill yourself. Problem solved.
You mean you have *overhead* in your job? Gasp. Welcome to real life.

My company has already warned us that we'll have to pay more for healthcare next year. I will gladly do it, because what I get out of it is worth it. [And before people start praising socialized medicine, when I get sick, I go to the doctor. Four PM Sunday, they're open. 7 PM Monday, they're open. I walk in, I wait ten minutes, I *see* the doctor. I then go drop off my prescription, and I get it in fifteen minutes. Each of those has to compete, so they have to offer something--speed, quality, and convenience--to make me want to shop there. That's not the case with socialized medicine.

Personally, if I made [are you talking gross or net?] the same amount of money now, as I did when I started a job in 1994, I would think there's something wrong there, and it ain't gas prices.

Our gas prices aren't unreasonably high now--they historically have been unreasonably low. And they're not even the highest they've ever been, when adjusted for inflation, the gas crisis of the 70's had higher prices, and less supply.

And, of course, you're wrong about how much more people in the UK make. According to http://www.finfacts.com/biz10/globalworldincomepercapita.htm,
the average income in 2002 [I can't find much more recent data very quickly] in the UK was 25510. In the US it was 35400. The tax burden is only slightly less in the UK than in the US [within 1-3% points IIRC]. Most of the other sources I've seen have similar figures.

"Yet we got million of people in the USA living in the street "

No we don't. According to National Coalition for the Homeless, "the best approximation is from an Urban Institute study which states that about 3.5 million people, 1.35 million of them children, are likely to experience homelessness in a given year"
"They found that, on a given night in October, 444,000 people (in 346,000 households) experienced homelessness. On a given night in February, 842,000 (in 637,000 households) experienced homelessness."

I agree with you about that 'sending money and oil over there'. Just like that Live8 scam. "please, we're a bunch of caring musicians, we want you politicians to send your country's money to the dictators in Africa...How much have we donated? Oh, this concert isn't raising any money, it's to raise 'awareness'."
But I thought the recent "enlightened" thinking was about the 'global economy' and the 'world village' and all that claptrap. Those of us who have always said "Sweep around your own door first" were called isolationists. Suddenly, it's in vogue again.
 
[quote name='slidecage']not to bash your post , but im sick of people saying oo we got it so good cause it cost 6.50 per gallon in england YET they dont say how much more money they make over there.

well gas here like i said is 2.56 if it goes up 19 more cents and stays there im out of a job (i already told people if gas hits 2.75 or higher Im thinking about quiting cause they already said they WILL NOT HELP OUT WITH GAS.

i make around 1100 bucks per month on the route and Gas and insurance is running me almost 450-500 per month. I mean right there half my money just goes in running the car.... Im getting the Same amount of money i did when i started this freaking job back in 1994 when gas was under 1.00[/QUOTE]

So if your life is so horrible over here, move over there.
Hell, you want to save lots of money, kill yourself. Problem solved.
You mean you have *overhead* in your job? Gasp. Welcome to real life.

My company has already warned us that we'll have to pay more for healthcare next year. I will gladly do it, because what I get out of it is worth it. [And before people start praising socialized medicine, when I get sick, I go to the doctor. Four PM Sunday, they're open. 7 PM Monday, they're open. I walk in, I wait ten minutes, I *see* the doctor. I then go drop off my prescription, and I get it in fifteen minutes. Each of those has to compete, so they have to offer something--speed, quality, and convenience--to make me want to shop there. That's not the case with socialized medicine.

Personally, if I made [are you talking gross or net?] the same amount of money now, as I did when I started a job in 1994, I would think there's something wrong there, and it ain't gas prices.

Our gas prices aren't unreasonably high now--they historically have been unreasonably low. And they're not even the highest they've ever been, when adjusted for inflation, the gas crisis of the 70's had higher prices, and less supply.

And, of course, you're wrong about how much more people in the UK make. According to http://www.finfacts.com/biz10/globalworldincomepercapita.htm,
the average income in 2002 [I can't find much more recent data very quickly] in the UK was 25510. In the US it was 35400. The tax burden is only slightly less in the UK than in the US [within 1-3% points IIRC]. Most of the other sources I've seen have similar figures.

"Yet we got million of people in the USA living in the street "

No we don't. According to National Coalition for the Homeless, "the best approximation is from an Urban Institute study which states that about 3.5 million people, 1.35 million of them children, are likely to experience homelessness in a given year"
"They found that, on a given night in October, 444,000 people (in 346,000 households) experienced homelessness. On a given night in February, 842,000 (in 637,000 households) experienced homelessness."

I agree with you about that 'sending money and oil over there'. Just like that Live8 scam. "please, we're a bunch of caring musicians, we want you politicians to send your country's money to the dictators in Africa...How much have we donated? Oh, this concert isn't raising any money, it's to raise 'awareness'."
But I thought the recent "enlightened" thinking was about the 'global economy' and the 'world village' and all that claptrap. Those of us who have always said "Sweep around your own door first" were called isolationists. Suddenly, it's in vogue again.
 
The price of gas doesn't have any effect on what I do in my life. If I can't afford an extra 3-6.00 a week for gas, then I shouldn't be driving around in a car that takes premium.

If gas prices are bothering you so much because you have to spend so much money for your job there is a simple solution. Quit your job and find something else.
 
Oil companies don't set prices by supply-and-demand.

They set prices by consumer expectation (IE there's a war - so that's why customers have to pay higher even though it's only partially true)

If you don't believe me, checkout Exxon's recent profit earnings reports.
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Um, yes, but the government gives Big Oil all kinds of tax breaks, ignores their pollution, favorable energy policies, etc. so they keep getting campaign donations. I didn't mention setting gas prices at all. If the government would get serious about changing our energy policy such as offering huge incentives for alternate energy sources and investing in R&D, something might actually get done that would help out in the long term. However, as long as elected officials (from both parties, but the GOP is notorious for its Big Oil ties) are sucking on the tits and getting relected, it will never happen.

Big Oil wants to keep the status quo as long as possible, the same way entertainment companies have wanted to with fighting downloadable music and movies unti it is inevitable. Large industries HATE CHANGE, and from a corporate perspective it makes sense since it is very disruptive and expensive. But that doesn't mean it's good for the consumer...
 
[quote name='slidecage']
(i already got the car tuned up, Got the right air in tires )
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Goodjob. People don't realize how much milege they lose when they use the wrong air.

To save more, you may want to kill those Thursday trips across time. I can only imagine how much gas goes into those.
 
The price of gas doesn't have any effect on what I do in my life. If I can't afford an extra 3-6.00 a week for gas, then I shouldn't be driving around in a car that takes premium.

If gas prices are bothering you so much because you have to spend so much money for your job there is a simple solution. Quit your job and find something else.
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Oops, the only problem being that when gas prices go way up, the cost to produce and transport many goods you buy goes up too. I saw a report that the cost to fill up an 18-wheeler increased from $300 to $900 in the past six years. And those trucking companies sure as hell pass the increase in cost along down the chain, so you will be paying more at the pump in addition to paying more at the store for the things you buy. It does have a significant impact.
 
[quote name='secretvampire']Oops, the only problem being that when gas prices go way up, the cost to produce and transport many goods you buy goes up too. I saw a report that the cost to fill up an 18-wheeler increased from $300 to $900 in the past six years. And those trucking companies sure as hell pass the increase in cost along down the chain, so you will be paying more at the pump in addition to paying more at the store for the things you buy. It does have a significant impact.[/QUOTE]

Even if so, it's not a big deal, and it's not like the price increase isn't shared among every single consumer. If a trucking company's cost for gas goes up by a certain amount, and that truck carries a few thousand items, then yes, the cost of each item may go up by a few cents. We are talking pennies here. Big deal. As time goes on things get more expensive, it's life.
 
[quote name='secretvampire']Um, yes, but the government gives Big Oil all kinds of tax breaks, ignores their pollution, favorable energy policies, etc. so they keep getting campaign donations. I didn't mention setting gas prices at all. If the government would get serious about changing our energy policy such as offering huge incentives for alternate energy sources and investing in R&D, something might actually get done that would help out in the long term. However, as long as elected officials (from both parties, but the GOP is notorious for its Big Oil ties) are sucking on the tits and getting relected, it will never happen.

Big Oil wants to keep the status quo as long as possible, the same way entertainment companies have wanted to with fighting downloadable music and movies unti it is inevitable. Large industries HATE CHANGE, and from a corporate perspective it makes sense since it is very disruptive and expensive. But that doesn't mean it's good for the consumer...[/QUOTE]

So true, in fact oil companies, diamond cartels, the RIAA cartel, and Monopolysoft are just a few of the true "secret vampires" of the US.

To the guy saying that oil prices aren't so bad, Exxon made record profits last year. Not just record profits - MASSIVELY record profits. Meanwhile some American guy protecting the Iraqi ministry of oil with his life is barely making over $20,000 annually. Maybe gas prices should be higher, but my gas money shouldn't be going into the bloody hands of Exxon's CEO.
 
[quote name='slidecage']woke up and seen a barrel of oil up around 1.50 to 63.55 so a ran down to the gas station...... 2.56 for basic unleaded gas. This is freaking getting insane.

i was wondering though anyone know the prices on East and west coast. (even though i think chicago prices are around the same)

heres a question

do all cars get about the same gas millage (if you stop and go alot driving in the city). I deliver papers and the car im driving right now only gets around
11-12 MPG. I drive around 60 miles per day Stopping and going x 6 days a week. Last month i blew like 360 bucks just in gas alone..

anyone know a way to get better gas mileage

(i already got the car tuned up, Got the right air in tires )

thanks[/QUOTE]
Seems like you're actually kinda lucky there in indiana. Here on Long Island, having prices at 2.56 has been average for a while. A few days ago I saw it in the 60s... Where's the oil we're raping out of the Middle East going anyways?
 
I find it strange that there hasnt been a huge public outcry right now (there was one back in the late 70's when Carter was president).

I think that Americans are getting used to hearing so much bad news that its all just starting to blend together.
 
To the guy saying that oil prices aren't so bad, Exxon made record profits last year. Not just record profits - MASSIVELY record profits. Meanwhile some American guy protecting the Iraqi ministry of oil with his life is barely making over $20,000 annually. Maybe gas prices should be higher, but my gas money shouldn't be going into the bloody hands of Exxon's CEO.
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Great point. I love how we are all expected to support the troops there (and trust me, I do, despite my opinions regarding the reasons we went to war and the current administration's policies...it's surely not these poor kids' fault), however our government can't give them the proper equipment or salaries to get the job done.

I find it strange that there hasnt been a huge public outcry right now (there was one back in the late 70's when Carter was president).

I think that Americans are getting used to hearing so much bad news that its all just starting to blend together.
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Well, to be fair, we don't have rationing or shortages...there aren't gas lines down the block due to outright shortages. However, your second point is sadly becoming more and more true...I think that Americans are becoming more and more complacent as our leadership does nothing to help us and values corporations over citizens. It's sad that people aren't standing up more to say, "This is not right." As evidenced by...

Even if so, it's not a big deal, and it's not like the price increase isn't shared among every single consumer. If a trucking company's cost for gas goes up by a certain amount, and that truck carries a few thousand items, then yes, the cost of each item may go up by a few cents. We are talking pennies here. Big deal. As time goes on things get more expensive, it's life.
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That's why your comments bother me, mtxbass1. I hate to see everybody roll over and take it. Sure it's only pennies now, but it keeps adding up...it increases inflation which devalues your money you've earned. Over time, it will be come a significant amount...espcially if everybody lets it go unchecked.
 
I pay about $70 a week for gas these days. Once they make some more effcient hybrids, I'm going to look into getting one since gas is only going to continue to go up. Any downswings in price will only be temporary. I looked into hybrids a while back but they just don't get enough miles per gallon more than my current car (1999 Buick Century in immaculate condition) to be worth the expense.
 
heres a tip:

*Don't buy a hummer.
*Don't buy a navigator.
*Don't buy a friggen Escalade, you're not gangsta.
*Don't pimp out your car with spinners or heavy ass rims.
*Don't Weigh down your car with friggen 50 TV's and huge ass woofers.
 
[quote name='secretvampire']
That's why your comments bother me, mtxbass1. I hate to see everybody roll over and take it. Sure it's only pennies now, but it keeps adding up...it increases inflation which devalues your money you've earned. Over time, it will be come a significant amount...espcially if everybody lets it go unchecked.[/QUOTE]

But what else are you personally going to do about it? Nothing. You are going to continue to pay whatever price is asked of gas and other necessary goods. There is nothing that you as an individual can do that will make a difference to stop the rise in prices. I'm sure you'll reply with "vote them out of office" or "start taking a bus/riding a bike" or some other quip as to how you would make a change, but seriously, do you think that one person doing any of this is going to make a difference? Hardly. Sit back and enjoy capitalist society.

[quote name='help1']heres a tip:

*Don't buy a hummer.
*Don't buy a navigator.
*Don't buy a friggen Escalade, you're not gangsta.
*Don't pimp out your car with spinners or heavy ass rims.
*Don't Weigh down your car with friggen 50 TV's and huge ass woofers.[/QUOTE]

help1, are you even old enough to drive? Last time I checked driving an Escalade doesn't make you a "gangsta". You are sadly mistaken if you think that "pimping out your car" is going to do anything to effect the cost of gas. If someone has the money to "weigh down the car with friggen 50 TV's" I don't think they are going to have a problem affording gas.
 
IN AZ its about 2.60. give or take about 7 cents depending on what part of the valley you buy it in.
Also keep the air filter clean, If its clogged you get less mpgs. I think DtCarson pretty much said the big ones in his post.
 
[quote name='slidecage']not to bash your post , but im sick of people saying oo we got it so good cause it cost 6.50 per gallon in england YET they dont say how much more money they make over there. [/QUOTE]

Not to bash your post, but salaries in Europe are lower than their American equivalents (in most global companies).

Edit: It should also be mentioned that standardized health care, vacation time, etc. have a much higher standard in Europe.
 
Don't have any time to debate tonight, but some other tips to keep increase your gas mileage:

1) Add the STP fuel injection fluid to your gas tank to clean it up
2) Change your sparkplugs & wires if it's time
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']But what else are you personally going to do about it? Nothing. You are going to continue to pay whatever price is asked of gas and other necessary goods. There is nothing that you as an individual can do that will make a difference to stop the rise in prices. I'm sure you'll reply with "vote them out of office" or "start taking a bus/riding a bike" or some other quip as to how you would make a change, but seriously, do you think that one person doing any of this is going to make a difference? Hardly. Sit back and enjoy capitalist society.



help1, are you even old enough to drive? Last time I checked driving an Escalade doesn't make you a "gangsta". You are sadly mistaken if you think that "pimping out your car" is going to do anything to effect the cost of gas. If someone has the money to "weigh down the car with friggen 50 TV's" I don't think they are going to have a problem affording gas.[/QUOTE]


Are you old enough to sense sarcasm?
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']But what else are you personally going to do about it? Nothing. You are going to continue to pay whatever price is asked of gas and other necessary goods. There is nothing that you as an individual can do that will make a difference to stop the rise in prices. I'm sure you'll reply with "vote them out of office" or "start taking a bus/riding a bike" or some other quip as to how you would make a change, but seriously, do you think that one person doing any of this is going to make a difference? Hardly. Sit back and enjoy capitalist society.[/QUOTE]

Don't listen to this tripe. You DO make a difference. Just look at the 70s - people pressured the politicians into forcing Detroit to find cleaner, more fuel-efficient cars.

Problem now is that half of America is too pumped up on jingoism and Jebus juice to see that they are being manipulated by corporations and neo-cons.

I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country... corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.
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-- U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864
 
[quote name='Noodle Pirate!']IN AZ its about 2.60. give or take about 7 cents depending on what part of the valley you buy it in.
Also keep the air filter clean, If its clogged you get less mpgs. I think DtCarson pretty much said the big ones in his post.[/QUOTE]
Where are you at? It's around $2.40 give or take a few cents here in Tempe.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Where are you at? It's around $2.40 give or take a few cents here in Tempe.[/QUOTE]


N snottsdale :( I filled up last night and it was 2.58 for regular unleaded.
 
[quote name='camoor']So true, in fact oil companies, diamond cartels, the RIAA cartel, and Monopolysoft are just a few of the true "secret vampires" of the US.

To the guy saying that oil prices aren't so bad, Exxon made record profits last year. Not just record profits - MASSIVELY record profits. Meanwhile some American guy protecting the Iraqi ministry of oil with his life is barely making over $20,000 annually. Maybe gas prices should be higher, but my gas money shouldn't be going into the bloody hands of Exxon's CEO.[/QUOTE]

I don't have a problem with a company making profits, even "MASSIVE" profits. The profit motive is one of the surest methods to increase productivity and efficiency [they're profiting because people buy their gas; if people didn't buy it, they'd alter their business. If there was enough profit in hybrids or canola cars, they'd be made].

If you don't think your gas money shouldn't be going into the 'bloody hands' of Exxon's CEO, then I respect that opinion though I might not agree with it, and i will support your right to shop elsewhere, boycott Exxon, stick with bicycles, etc. Just don't forget the law of unintended consequences--I believe one person or many can "make a difference"--but if you hit Exxon [or MS or McD's] really hard, who's that going to hurt? Mr. Exxon CEO, or Joe Blow earning nine bucks an hours at the factory? Who's most likely to get a pay cut or laid off? Spend with your conscience, just be aware of the consequences.
 
So, uh, we gunna have this thread every week?

I wish I had the Baidu.com stock. Up over 100 points since friday. :(
 
[quote name='Noodle Pirate!']N snottsdale :( I filled up last night and it was 2.58 for regular unleaded.[/QUOTE]
I guess I should be glad I'm not paying that much. :) Hopefully it goes down in the fall.
 
[quote name='camoor']So true, in fact oil companies, diamond cartels, the RIAA cartel, and Monopolysoft are just a few of the true "secret vampires" of the US.

To the guy saying that oil prices aren't so bad, Exxon made record profits last year. Not just record profits - MASSIVELY record profits. Meanwhile some American guy protecting the Iraqi ministry of oil with his life is barely making over $20,000 annually. Maybe gas prices should be higher, but my gas money shouldn't be going into the bloody hands of Exxon's CEO.[/QUOTE]

you forgot to mention the MASSIVE tax breaks they also got with the new energy bill after posting record profits;)
 
[quote name='help1']Are you old enough to sense sarcasm?[/QUOTE]

Not when every one of your posts is some lame attempt at either humor or sarcasm, not to mention that every single one of your points had something to do with being a thug or "gangsta" or some other bs you think is cool.
 
[quote name='MaxBiaggi2']. The consensus is that people have accepted higher $2+ gas prices and will continue to buy gas-guzzling SUVs and such despite the increased fuel costs.[/QUOTE]


It's not people accepting it. It's people being forced to buy it. How else are you going to make a combustible engine work. I don't want to get in that whole thing of buses and etc.

Also it's really sad to see gas continue to raise in price. I think it was on the daily show a little while back and they said the I think exxon made 7.6 billion in profit in one quarter. I think there is room to lower price of gas.

My best example is my dad said when he was younger gas was 30 cents a gallon.
When I was little it was .99 gallon.
Now it's 2.50

lets see. Let me do some math not counting inflation and the value of a dollar changes.

So for my father every year gas prices rise 5 cents
And for me every year gas rises .25 cents.
 
abdullah's tips for saving gas:
1-let go of gas if there is a red light ahead of you, even if someone is tailgating you(unless theres atleast 3 black guys in the car behind you)jk
2- break stop signs when noone is looking
3- use a credit card like citi that gives you 5% back for gas
4-run over speed bumps if it doesn't hit the bottom of your car(suspensions are invinsible )
5-treat the gas pedal like ps2 analog precision buttons , press slowy to keep rpm low

these along with a cheapass ford escort, and i pay only about 3$ gas for a whole day of delivery (about 50$ in tips)
 
[quote name='Graystone']It's not people accepting it. It's people being forced to buy it. How else are you going to make a combustible engine work. I don't want to get in that whole thing of buses and etc.

My best example is my dad said when he was younger gas was 30 cents a gallon.
When I was little it was .99 gallon.
Now it's 2.50

lets see. Let me do some math not counting inflation and the value of a dollar changes.

So for my father every year gas prices rise 5 cents
And for me every year gas rises .25 cents.[/QUOTE]I would like to think this would spur popular interest in alternative energy sources and more efficient engine design. Combustion engines are not very efficient (usually 20-30% efficiency) as they take stored chemical energy, convert it to heat and then finally to kinetic energy to torque the wheels and move the car. The energy from excess heat and exhaust are wasted.

I remember the first time seeing gas go over $1/gallon during the Gulf War and never returning below that afterward.
 
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