Ok so wtf ebay seller HELP ME!

SolidMetal

SolidMetal

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Alright so I bid on this item here.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360064812843
Thinking it was kool, but then I noticed that I can't pay for this so I sent the seller a message to delete my bid a few days before the bid was over.
This is when it gets tricky I go on vacation and see I get a message back from him. Obviously he's trying to scam me out of getting my money so read my messages.

Me- "I'm sorry but I can't purchase this shirt right now. I was sure I was going to get outbidded after a day when I bid, but now it looks like I might win so please cancel my bid." July 1st, 2008

Him- "No a problen I undestand but You have to cancel it by yourself. Do it from your computer and your account on ebay.
Thanks for letting me know." July 1st, 2008.

Me- "I don't know if I can. All I know that I can do is message you about it and then you can end it. I removed it from my list though, if that works." July 2nd, 2008

July 9th, 2008 Unpaid reminder. "Dear solids-store,
retromaniac66 has informed us that they have not yet received your payment for the following item: Vintage Pokemon Gotta Catch'em all T-shirt Small (#360064812843)
No action is being taken against your account at this time. However, it is important to remember that when you bid on or buy an item you are agreeing to a contract between you and the seller. If the situation isn't resolved within 7 days of this reminder email, you may receive an Unpaid Item strike under eBay's Unpaid Item Policy or lose feedback privileges for this transaction

Most Unpaid Item disputes can be resolved through direct communication between the buyer and seller, and we encourage you to work with your trading partner to reach a resolution."

OK WTF!! He was suppose to delete my bid!

Me- "uh i thought you understood that I can't purchase this. Why did you contact ebay as not paid? I would like for you to just end it. Since I was the only bidder. I'm sorry but I can't pay for this, I thought you understood that I was going to be outbidded but you said that I had to delete the bid myself even though you can't do that. You can only contact the seller and ask them to delete your bid which you didn't. so please delete my bid." July 11, 2008

Him- "Hi there, yes I did contacted you by email and told you that as a buyer you have to cancel your bids by yourself and I Undestood that you didn't want to buy it but its no my responsability to do it for you. I contacted ebay because they are charging me the insertion fees now. You did't cancel your bid so now ebay is charging me the insertion fees and final value fees to me. You could pay for those fees and them we both agree to close the dispute, Next time be careful to cancel any bids to avoid this situation. Any time an item is sell on ebay there are charges to pay by the sellers." July 11, 2008

Me- "You can't cancel your bid.
"Please contact the seller to request that your bid be canceled. However, it is up to the seller's discretion whether or not to cancel your bid."
Thats what I did, but you didn't do that.
read more here
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/questions/retract-bid.html
I contacted you before the bid was over and before I left for vacation. Thats why I thought you would delete my bid, but you didn't." July 11, 2008

And I haven't got a message back yet.

I just don't understand why he can't delete my bid. And now since he waited forever he wants me to pay for transitions fee. I'm not paying for anything. Idc if I get a bad rep on ebay. I thought I made it clear that I wanted it deleted though.

Scammer >.>

Any thoughts?
 
Well, here's the thing. When you made the bid, you agreed to a contract that stated that you would pay for the item in case you won. If you notice, the eBay thing states that it's up to the seller if he wants to delete your bid or not. Note that he doesn't have to. So basically, he did nothing wrong, and you're in the wrong here. You shouldn't have bid if you knew that you couldn't pay for it. You should really just pay for the item and accept that you screwed up.
 
[quote name='YodaEXE']Well, here's the thing. When you made the bid, you agreed to a contract that stated that you would pay for the item in case you won. If you notice, the eBay thing states that it's up to the seller if he wants to delete your bid or not. Note that he doesn't have to. So basically, he did nothing wrong, and you're in the wrong here. You shouldn't have bid if you knew that you couldn't pay for it. You should really just pay for the item and accept that you screwed up.[/QUOTE]

Correct. This is in no way the sellers fault... yes, he understands that you can't pay and that's why he filed the dispute against you: because you're not paying what you said you would.
 
Yea, I think I have to side with the seller here. He has a really good point on the sellers fee he gets stuck with. If nothing else, I would take him up on his offer to pay just the listing fees if you really can't pay for the item. A similar situation happened to me and that's what the buyer did.
 
OP, your timeline doesn't make any sense. You claim you contacted the seller "a few days before" the auction ended, but your first message was sent on July 1, the day when the auction ended. If your buyer's remorse kicked in more than 12 hours before the end of the listing, you should've been able to retract your own bid. Otherwise, you were correct in asking the seller to cancel your bid, but as eBay's rules state, the seller is not obligated to acknowledge your request.

According to eBay's rules, you are 100% in the wrong and responsible for paying for the item that you won. However, if the turn of events occurred as you say they did, I believe it was somewhat antagonistic of the seller to not cancel your bid during the final 12 hours of the auction (even if you should've been able to cancel it yourself earlier) and then hit you with an unpaid item dispute, when you made it clear that you were unable (or, more likely, unwilling) to purchase the item. Any seller in good faith shouldn't have a problem understanding your situation and accommodating your bid cancellation.

Your best option at this point is to take the seller up on his offer and agree to pay the insertion and final value fees. If you do that, you won't get hit with a NPB strike AND you can give the seller negative feedback without fear of retaliatory feedback (if you so desire). The fees should only be around $1, so it should be no skin off your back.
 
Did you not notice this part when you initially bid?

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By clicking on the button below, you commit to buy this item from the seller if you're the winning bidder.

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You are agreeing to a contract -- You will enter into a legally binding contract to purchase the item from the seller if you're the winning bidder. You are responsible for reading the full item listing, including the seller's instructions and accepted payment methods. Seller assumes all responsibility for listing this item.

Why is this guy a scammer for refusing to accommodate your spoiled, me-first needs? Like others have pointed out, he has to deal with listing fees and Final Value fees which you conveniently ignore when accusing him of being a poor seller. But no, because you are so CLEARLY in the right here, point fingers, cry "scam", and take down a seller whom has 150x more feedback than you and is obviously an experienced eBayer.

I think someone needs a reality check. Nice GIF, by the way...
 
I'm tipsy, and maybe I'm out of line. But as a seller myself - who's had ebay slowly strip me of policies that protect me and uber abundantly empower buyers - this shit pisses me of. When you sign up for ebay you enter into a contract of terms and agreements. These days buyers take advantage of sellers for any reason they can think of. Don't like your item even though the description detailed it's origin, condition, and fucking DNA makeup? Charge it back, don't worry. Don't like the seller? Leave him negative feedback - don't worry, he can't do anything about unless you're a repeat offender. Feel like going back on the contract you agreed to upon sign up at the last minute? It's cool, complain to an admin and check it out - you're scott free, and seller is only out some petty auction fees...

I read an article a month ago that was supposedly from an ebay "insider" which stated that the new "sellers can't give negative feedback" policy was one step in an old and established plan to turn ebay into an "auction based" online retailer like amazon. I filed the thought as conspiracy theory. Lately however, I can't help but see ebay for what it is becoming. Vent over... Kthnxbai.... BRB bed...
 
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[quote name='video_gamer324']OP, your timeline doesn't make any sense. You claim you contacted the seller "a few days before" the auction ended, but your first message was sent on July 1, the day when the auction ended. If your buyer's remorse kicked in more than 12 hours before the end of the listing, you should've been able to retract your own bid. Otherwise, you were correct in asking the seller to cancel your bid, but as eBay's rules state, the seller is not obligated to acknowledge your request.

According to eBay's rules, you are 100% in the wrong and responsible for paying for the item that you won. However, if the turn of events occurred as you say they did, I believe it was somewhat antagonistic of the seller to not cancel your bid during the final 12 hours of the auction (even if you should've been able to cancel it yourself earlier) and then hit you with an unpaid item dispute, when you made it clear that you were unable (or, more likely, unwilling) to purchase the item. Any seller in good faith shouldn't have a problem understanding your situation and accommodating your bid cancellation.

Your best option at this point is to take the seller up on his offer and agree to pay the insertion and final value fees. If you do that, you won't get hit with a NPB strike AND you can give the seller negative feedback without fear of retaliatory feedback (if you so desire). The fees should only be around $1, so it should be no skin off your back.[/quote]
yeah lawl I noticed that after I posted it this morning. I'm sorry. Yeahh I think I'll just pay the fees.
 
Why don't you just have him send am mutual agreement to cancel the sale. He gets his final value fees back, you get out of the sale, he can relist it and when it sells again he gets the initial insertion fees back.

Unless he's pissed off that you bid and didn't pay, I would think he will probably do it.
 
OP, yeah, just pay the seller's fees, which shouldn't be more than a dollar or two, and move on. As an eBay seller myself, an easy-to-work-with buyer is much appreciated.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']Why don't you just have him send am mutual agreement to cancel the sale. He gets his final value fees back, you get out of the sale, he can relist it and when it sells again he gets the initial insertion fees back.

Unless he's pissed off that you bid and didn't pay, I would think he will probably do it.[/quote]
Agreed, this way you won't have to pay anything, and he gets all of the fees back. And he gets an insertion fee credit if it sells the next itme he lists it. Shouldn't matter to him either way because someone is paying the fees, but it helps you out.
 
yeah thats what I'm doing he sent me a message said its 1.50 but I don't know how to access his paypal page from ebay.
 
[quote name='SolidMetal']yeah thats what I'm doing he sent me a message said its 1.50 but I don't know how to access his paypal page from ebay.[/quote]
$1.50? Sounds a little high.

Insertion fee for starting bid of 9.99 = $0.35
8.75% of final price = $0.87

He didn't have "Buy it now" or a reserve price, so no additional fees there. So total, you would have to pay $1.22. I guess he's adding the additional $0.28 to cover paypal fees. Even then, paypal fees are going to be slightly more than that $0.28.

Yea, he definatly needs to file a mutual agreement.
 
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