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WHEN REPORTING TRADE-IN VALUES PLEASE POST BASE VALUES & SYSTEM IT IS FOR.

First post contains promo information & useful information and frequently asked questions. Second post has the values for games/hardware for Microsoft devices. Third post has the values for games/hardware for Nintendo consoles and the fourth post has the values for Nintendo handhelds. Fifth post has the values for games/hardware for Sony consoles and the sixth post has the values for Sony handhelds.

Instructions on finding games in the database and inputting the values from different sections can be found in my blog post here: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/blog.php?b=14143. I would put the entire post in the thread but this is already kind of a large post.

WHEN POSTING VALUES:

Please try to follow the example below if possible. If you feel the need to use the system icons, please only use them once at and at the top of the list. Also always post the system it's for even if it's only on one system or the value will not get updated. I don't always know it and I'm doing these updates from work to keep them as updated as often as possible so I can't spend time searching for that info.

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Current Promotions:

From GameStop employees on CAG:

GameStop.com Information (will post it when they update it)

50% extra in-store credit, traded towards pre-owned products (Ends 11/3/13)
GameStop.com said:
Get 50% extra in-store credit when you trade any games, systems or accessories toward the purchase of pre-owned products.
Valid 10/21/13 - 11/3/13

In-store credit must be applied toward the purchase of pre-owned product. Hardware must have all necessary components for trade. Not valid toward cash trades. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Defective items may be eligible for trade at a lesser value. Trades subject to manager approval. Offer valid only toward items normally accepted in trade. Cannot be combined with any other offer. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.
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New Games for $9.99 after trade of 2 eligible games (Ends Unknown)
GameStop.com said:
Spend less for the new games you want

Get new games for $9.99 or less when you trade 2 eligible games

Customer may be responsible for sales tax. Net credit after promotion is $50.00 or greater, and must be applied toward the purchase of a new game. If applicable, excess credit remaining after purchase will be returned to the customer in the form of in-store credit. After promotion, cost to the customer will be $9.99 before tax, where applicable, for games priced at $59.99. Customer is responsible for any additional cost when purchasing games priced over $59.99. Eligible games must be traded in the same transaction as the purchase of an eligible new game. Not valid toward cash trades. Offer valid only when eligible items are traded. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Defective items may be eligible for trade at a lesser value. Trades subject to manager approval. Offer valid only toward items normally accepted in trade. Cannot be combined with any other offer. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.
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30% extra credit on games, electronics & accessories trades towards select items. (Ends 12/29/13)
GameStop.com said:
30% extra in-store credit when you trade games, accessories, systems, smartphones or tablets toward any pre-owned product or select items
Valid 8/19/13 - 12/29/13

In-store credit must be applied toward an eligible product. Not valid toward cash trades. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Defective items may be eligible for trade at a lesser value. Trades subject to manager approval. Offer valid only toward items normally accepted in trade. Cannot be combined with any other offer. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.
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$30 guaranteed trade-in value on select items. (Ends 10/24/13) *THIS IS A PROMO SO NO EXTRA ON TOP*
GameStop.com said:
Get $30 guaranteed trade-in value on select games.

In-store credit must be applied toward an eligible product. Not valid toward cash trades. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Defective items may be eligible for trade at a lesser value. Trades subject to manager approval. Offer valid only toward items normally accepted in trade. Cannot be combined with any other offer. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.
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FAQ
These trade-in values are really low!
While that may be true, if you combine the games with the right promotion they can work to your advantage. There are knowledgeable people in this thread that are normally willing to help.

Is there any way to look at what the previous values reported on a game?
You can search through this thread and previous ones to see what a game has been reported in the past. With the TIV Tracker you can sort by date and then go through the list of past updated values through that as well. Here are the previous GS TIV Threads: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15,16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21,,,,

Can I trade-in sealed games?
No. You might come across the rare GameStop that would let you do it, but they are going to open them anyway.

I don't want to get hassled about the values I post, how can I get the information out there?
If you do not feel comfortable or willing to put the values in the thread you have two options available. You can input them in the TIV tracker or you can send them to me via PM. Either way the database and these lists will be updated. Putting them into the TIV tracker does save me some time later on.

Do trade-ins have to have their original case, insert and manual?
No, however it will be YMMV on if they charge you a refurbish fee for them in that condition. Most GameStops wont charge a fee but there are some that charge for incomplete games.

Will they accept my game if it is really beat up?
YMMV. It really all depends upon the employee you get. Some will charge refurbish fees, some wont, some wont accept the game and others just take them without a second glance.

What are the refurb fees on games?
There appears to be set prices for set value ranges. We aren't 100% certain on the splits just yet. Here is what we have currently:
$0.25-$2 Value: $0.75 Refurb Fee
$2.01-$4 Value: $1 Refurb Fee
$4.01-$7 Value: $2 Refurb Fee
$7.01-$10 Value: $3 Refurb Fee
$10.01 & Higher Value: $4 Refurb Fee
This information isn't guaranteed by any mean and we are still working on nailing it down.

What are the refurb fees on consoles?
They are listed in the hardware TIV section, highlight in red.

I have a Collector's/Limited/Special edition of a game, do I have to trade-in all of the extras?
No, but there are a handful of games that their variations have separate listings at GameStop: Madden 09 Anniversary Edition, Battlefield: Bad Company Gold Edition, and a few others.

Why didn't the percent bonus go for my accessory for a system that was included?
Unless stated otherwise, and they are rarely included, the bonuses never apply to accessories. Except the PowerUp Rewards card of course.

I traded in a bunch of games for the "Trade X, get $X bonus" promo and it gave me the percentage bonus instead?
I can't give concretes on why this happens. GameStop computers are normally pretty good at giving you the better promo. In the case of a percentage bonus being run at the same time as a "Trade X, get $X" promo, things can get messy. The system appears to only give one promo on games per transaction so if you had a few games that you want to go to the percentage bonus and a stack for the "Trade X, Get $X" it will regularly apply the percentage to all of the games. Your best bet is to do all "Trade X, Get $X" games in one transaction on their own. The GameStop clerk may say that the system will figure it all out, tell them you want a separate transaction anyway. As always, check your receipt before you leave the store.

Can I trade in multiple copies of the same game?
YMMV. The official policy is no, but there are some GameStops that overlook that rule.

What all do I have to trade in for a console trade-in?
Xbox 360: Console Unit, power brick, A/V Cables, Controller (wired/wireless)
Wii: Console Unit, Power Cable, A/V Cables, Wiimote, Nunchuck, Sensor Bar
Playstation 3: Console Unit, Power Cable, A/V Cable, Controller, USB Cable
PSP: Handheld, A/C Adapter
Nintendo DS/DSLite/DSi: Handheld, A/C Adapter, Stylus

Can I trade in a defective/broken console?
For the most part yes. If it powers on but doesn't play games, they will take the console as a refurb unit and put a refurb fee on the console. The refurb fee on the console will vary on the price of the console so those numbers will change. You are still required to trade in everything required listed in the question directly above.

What is the difference between PowerUp Rewards and PowerUp Rewards Pro?
The basic card is free and only allows you to acrew points when spending money. The Pro card costs $14.99 and is basically the same as the previous EDGE program.

How much does a PowerUp Rewards Pro subscription cost?
It costs $14.99 and is good for a year. It also comes with a 1-year subscription to Game Informer magazine.

What bonuses come with having an PowerUp Rewards Pro card?
You will get an extra 10% trade-in credit on the base value of the game, extra 10% off the purchase of pre-owned games and 10% off new strategy guides.

Does the Power Up Rewards Card give me a bonus on hardware trade-ins?
No. You will only get the bonus for games and accessories.

What if I want cash instead of credit, what do they deduct?
If you decide that you want cash instead of credit, they will take 20% off the base values and promos will not apply.

Does promo "....." have a minimum trade-in value?
If the promo has a minimum trade-in value requirement, it will be listed in the promo. If it isn't there, then there is no limit. However, as with all trades, they are subject to manager approval so the manager could have setup his own little rule-set requiring a minimum of whatever.

I used a Power Trade promo for a pre-order, can I cancel that pre-order and get the credit or move it to another game I want?
Yes on both accounts. However, if you do a bunch of the power trades and just straight drop the pre-order you could create some ill-will between yourself and the employees you cancel on. However, if you look at the wordings on promos, they can remove the bonus trade-in value if they decide to.

I just tried to use a promo that has a select list of games eligible, but they say my game isn't eligible anymore, what gives?
Basically they have the right to change the eligible games at any time. They tend to update these frequently so as to lock out any easy/cheap games. It's best to check the eligible list the day of your trade.

Can I stack two different trade-in promos?
No. The only thing that will stack with trade-ins is your PowerUp Rewards card. Some will report success, but this requires a manual override and is very YMMV.

If I pay for an item using all credit on my card, do I have to pay sales tax?
This varies depending upon the state you live in.

If I buy a used copy of a game that requires an online pass for multiplayer, will it come with an online pass?
If you purchase a used title published by either Sony or WB you get an online pass from GS on your receipt. That's also why the used copies are $55 instead of $48 when the MSRP is $60. No GS issued passes of games published by EA, THQ, etc. On those titles you're totally dependent on the previous owner not using the code.

What states charge sales tax on purchases paid in full with credit and which ones don't?
Charge Sales Tax on Credit Purchases: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, West Virginia
Does Not Charge Sales Tax on Credit Purchases: Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming
May or May Not Charge, Depending Upon County: Florida,

My state doesn't charge sales tax on purchases made by credit, why is gamestop.com charging me tax?
It is just the way they have designed their system. The best theory we have seen is that since you are only inputting the number off of the back of the card, it isn't going to pick up the programming from the specially tagged EDGE cards. Some kind of programming that gets input from their system that wont show up when only inputting the number off the back of the card.


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WhatsYoFlava said:
My GS store requires thumbprints. What would you guys choose? Fingerprints or a picture?

With Playcation ending today, you guys think GS will increase the base value of trade ins for all the consoles? There is a Steal of the Week coupon that will offer an extra 50% on systems traded in starting on 9/30 for 20K points.
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Fingerprints.

First, It likely costs them money to run those... whereas pictures have the potential of them posting in their system for immediate identification.

Second, my fingerprints are a million times sexier than my photobombs.

 
Not sure if this is the right forum, but I've done a large amount of GameStop trades and have enough powerup points for a $50 off any item coupon. I've already paid off a ps4 preorder but was wondering if I could use the coupon on the console since its already paid off. Anyone know how it works, I used trade credit for the whole system
 
Hey, maybe someone can help me out here; getting ready to use up my Playcation coupon on the last day.  I've been seeing a lot of people trading in the slim xbox 360 power adapters for pretty outrageous amounts.  Anyone have experience trading a phat power adaptor (if they accept them at all)?  The only listing I can find of GS.com seems to be for the phat adaptors. 

Figured I'd go ahead and throw that out there, and maybe someone can comment before I go to trade in later this afternoon.

 
PrinnyOtaku said:
Man, that stupid regional 100% bonus trade-in value is a sham. I brought my Vita and 3DS XL in to trade today, they would only give me 50% bonus on my Vita (even after the base for both dropping to $80).

Everything is at their discretion. They'd only give me 50% on my PS3 Super Slim too. I get why they do it, but they shouldn't advertise 100% on systems if it's an "exceptions apply" thing. Oh well, I guess I don't get new systems for $10 :'(

I still got rid of my 3DS for $160 though, upgrading to the X/Y one for $40 is... okay I guess. I'm pretty sure if the base TIV was still $90 today for the 3DS XL they wouldn't have given me 100% bonus on it, so it worked out??

What was funny was that they mentioned someone flipping iPads over and over again at that store, and they eventually started refusing the dude. I bet it was a CAG tbqh. Greedy, greedy people.
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I think I missed something, what is this 100% bonus? I'm not seeing this on their website. Does anyone know what regions it's active in?

 
jackuiowa said:
Not sure if this is the right forum, but I've done a large amount of GameStop trades and have enough powerup points for a $50 off any item coupon. I've already paid off a ps4 preorder but was wondering if I could use the coupon on the console since its already paid off. Anyone know how it works, I used trade credit for the whole system
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you can use the coupon, upon release date of the console. not now tho, since it is still consider a preoder item, that has not yet been release

 
Went to gamestop this morning and traded in my tablet for a Nexus 7 second gen.

Man, I'm going to miss these playcation coupons.

Ah well......

 
Traded in a few things yesterday

:vita:

PS Vita System $80

4gb Memory card $3.80

8gb Memory Card $7.20

MLB 13 $6

Fat Wireless 360 $35 ($20 refurb for RR)

Wireless controller $12

 
mottaman said:
I think I missed something, what is this 100% bonus? I'm not seeing this on their website. Does anyone know what regions it's active in?
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OptimusRhyme said:
I am curious as well... I have a 500GB ps3 I'd gladly trade for the ps3 GTA bundle for a mere few bucks.
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There is no nationwide 100% promotion.

If you don't live in Boston, then don't worry about it. Unless someone reports otherwise, the 100% is only available here, and even then it is only specific to one particular store.

You're not missing out. Just use the Playcation if you have them.

 
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I just found an extra playcation coupon in some receipts.  I'm walking out the door right now so I can't deal with pm's, so I'll put it up for grabs here.  One thing though, if you use it, please mention it here so someone else doesn't go in looking stupid.

EBC3040611-5T9R13R4

 
sgaldis said:
Hey, maybe someone can help me out here; getting ready to use up my Playcation coupon on the last day. I've been seeing a lot of people trading in the slim xbox 360 power adapters for pretty outrageous amounts. Anyone have experience trading a phat power adaptor (if they accept them at all)? The only listing I can find of GS.com seems to be for the phat adaptors.

Figured I'd go ahead and throw that out there, and maybe someone can comment before I go to trade in later this afternoon.
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I was told by a gamestop employee a few weeks ago that they weren't even taking the phat power adapters anymore. I would still try it though if I were you but I can guarantee you that your only going to get a few bucks if they do take them.

 
kitsunisan said:
I just found an extra playcation coupon in some receipts. I'm walking out the door right now so I can't deal with pm's, so I'll put it up for grabs here. One thing though, if you use it, please mention it here so someone else doesn't go in looking stupid.

EBC3040611-5T9R13R4
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let me use this please

 
cancerman1120 said:
Sent...no "payment" required.
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Thank you so much cancerman1120!!!

I was "that guy" who goes into Gamestop at 8:53pm last night with games, controllers, an iPod, oh...and a Wii U system. They looked at me like they wanted to kill me! I offered to come back today but the two girls were very nice and put up with my shenanigans... Here's my list, base value:

iPod Touch Gen4 32GB (good) $80

Ps3 games:
God of War Acension $10
God of War Saga (2 disk) $8
MLB 13 $12
Lord of the Rings: Warinthenorth $7.50 (worth mentioning this was just the game of the Collectors Edition!)

360 games:
Need for Speed Most Wanted (newer version) $9

Wii games:
New Super Mario Bros $9

Controllers:
Ps3 dualshock 3 wireless $16
Wii U Pro Controller w/cable $10
X360 wireless controller $12

Wii U System 32GB black $150

Pre-Owned Total after 50% Playcation code from a nice CAG and 10% PUR.

Paid off my Xbox One pre-order ($98.39 remaining...), preordered GTA5, $50 ps card, $300 in Kindle cards (which have all been activated successfully, and some trade value left over!

Went to Amazon and found that the Call of Duty Black Ops Turtle Beach headsets are on sale. Bought the $200.00 version half off! Sale still up FYI....thanks!!!!
 
Forgot to add the total....PRE-OWNED TOTAL $494.60

Not sure if anyone cares and I'm sorry as I know this is a Gamestop thread...but the headset at Amazon is the X-Ray Surround Sound Turtle Beach model that is compatible with both PS3 and $360. Currently at $99.99 from Amazon directly (half off).
 
I have one playcation coupon left that I wont use today. Gave one to my little brother.

First pm to me gets the extra one I have. Hope someone can use it!

 
Cheapchuck said:
Forgot to add the total....PRE-OWNED TOTAL $494.60

Not sure if anyone cares and I'm sorry as I know this is a Gamestop thread...but the headset at Amazon is the X-Ray Surround Sound Turtle Beach model that is compatible with both PS3 and $360. Currently at $99.99 from Amazon directly (half off).
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do you happen to know if it will be compatible next gen?

edit: says its blue tooth for ps3, so hopefully it will work. ordered one, thanks for the heads up. the call of duty headsets and great since they are the exact same as the regular turtle beaches but get knocked down when a new call of duty games comes out. ive got the mw3 bravo set right now that i paid $70 for.

 
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Here's some leftover Playcation codes. Hope someone can still use them.                                                                                              EBC3040611-4V32JG4K                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        EBC3040611-4V32CKDH                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    EBC3040611-4V3220SH                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            EBC3040611-507VFNH9                                                            

 
ritchardf said:
do you happen to know if it will be compatible next gen?

edit: says its blue tooth for ps3, so hopefully it will work. ordered one, thanks for the heads up. the call of duty headsets and great since they are the exact same as the regular turtle beaches but get knocked down when a new call of duty games comes out. ive got the mw3 bravo set right now that i paid $70 for.
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I know they will have some adapter for the Xbox One and I was thinking the same as you about the PS4 bluetooth. Heck of a deal for a dual system headset! Glad I could help you out as I've trolled this site for 2 years now so I've got a lot of payback to give!
 
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Super Mario 3d land is not on the list. I had the same problem with the online list vs the actual list. Here is the copy of the new list:

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What mario land 3 is not on the list?? My store never has the list and always looks at my phone for it.. So if that's the case it won't work ring up then?? I have that game coming in I needed for the trade 2. My other 2 I had to send back to amazon refused since the list just changed.. Also what is wrong with America's test kitchen new it won't work to buy as a cheap game to get the rest in store credit?
 
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What mario land 3 is not on the list?? My store never has the list and always looks at my phone for it.. So if that's the case it won't work ring up then?? I have that game coming in I needed for the trade 2. My other 2 I had to send back to amazon refused since the list just changed.. Also what is wrong with America's test kitchen new it won't work to buy as a cheap game to get the rest in store credit?
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I initially had Mario 3d land and New Super Mario Bros 2. for 3ds to trade in for buying ATK and since one was not one the list it did not work. Went back with a copy of Mario Kart 7 and New Super Mario Bros 2 and it worked when buying towards ATK so only games on the list will work. I said it earlier that something screwy is going on with the online list since it is combining games from the old (deleted) list and the new revised list. I had this posted list printed via a GS store manager yesterday so it is up to date.

 
I initially had Mario 3d land and New Super Mario Bros 2. for 3ds to trade in for buying ATK and since one was not one the list it did not work. Went back with a copy of Mario Kart 7 and New Super Mario Bros 2 and it worked when buying towards ATK so only games on the list will work. I said it earlier that something screwy is going on with the online list since it is combining games from the old (deleted) list and the new revised list. I had this posted list printed via a GS store manager yesterday so it is up to date.



So they can't do anything when it says online it's still on the list? I can't really read the list it's coming up as a small pic for me.
 
eej1422 said:
So they can't do anything when it says online it's still on the list? I can't really read the list it's coming up as a small pic for me.
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You can point to that list and argue the fact it is being listed. YMMV on them honoring it though simply because of the clause in their fine print "Gamestop, Inc reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice". Here is the direct link to that image:

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You can point to that list and argue the fact it is being listed. YMMV on them honoring it though simply because of the clause in their fine print "Gamestop, Inc reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice". Here is the direct link to that image:

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Ok well ill try if not it will be going back in the mail also..
There is another mess up also pokepark 2 is a wii game and not a ds.. I was wondering why I couldn't find a ds copy lol.

Thanks for the new list dealseeker! Will save it!
 
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Went to GameStop today and one of their employees said they don't accept broken PS3...  The only problem it have: video-related to the YLOD...   Ended up selling it to another game vendor with the extra controller for $40 and placing $88 toward the Uncharted 3 Super Slim Bundle at Walmart (layaway program)....

 
DealSeeker2U said:
Super Mario 3d land is not on the list. I had the same problem with the online list vs the actual list. Here is the copy of the new list:

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What the fuck - Pokémon Platinum is on the list?! It's not on the list on their website. I wish I had known - I traded it in for $7 less yesterday with the placation coupon

 
Does anyone know if GameStop is selling GTA V at Midnight if you don't have a pre-order? I'd rather not go to a Midnight release of GTA and pick it up first thing Tuesday Morning but I am afraid they will sell out at Midnight. 

Edit: I can't pre-order it since I am doing the Trade 2 promotion.

 
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CAGALICIOUS said:
Does anyone know if GameStop is selling GTA V at Midnight if you don't have a pre-order? I'd rather not go to a Midnight release of GTA and pick it up first thing Tuesday Morning but I am afraid they will sell out at Midnight.

Edit: I can't pre-order it since I am doing the Trade 2 promotion.
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Just go and preorder it just in case. And yes you can do the Trade 2 for preorders.

 
jut22 said:
I'm not going to use my last Playcation coupon...PM me if you can put it to good use. I've been sending them via Pic Mess.
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I was busy yesterday and didn't get a chance to post it, but earlier jut sent me a coupon and I was able to use it. Just wanted to post a Thank You and mention how grateful I am that you sent it to me.

For anyone still going tonight, I was able to just provide the code but I'm sure it's YMMV.
 
CAGALICIOUS said:
Thanks. I hate my local GameStop. They told me I couldn't make trade ins for that promotion on a pre-ordered game.
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because he is right, it only works on games that has been released. preorder games are games that has not come out yet. what people are doing are returning/exchange for gta v. unless you come back with the 2 games on release date for gta v, to do the trade ins.

 
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