Onkyo 7.1 Receiver Hdmi.. Lossless Audio.. Best.. 699.99 AT CC.COM!@

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I was gonna order it for myself as a christmas gift today.. It was normally 1k.

Its down to 699.99

Thank god for my checking it today.. I wasnt going to.. But I searched for it on best buy and couldnt find it. so just wanted to see if CC had it.. and they did ^_^

Shipping is hella cheap.. and the warranty is 29.99 for 3 years.. not bad.

This is one of the best receivers on the market by the way..

3 Hdmi Inputs
7.1 Surround Sound
DTS Master Audio
Lossless Audio

Basically, the best audio receiver on the market right now.. and one of the few that does 7.1 surround sound with hdmi :)

Im buying it as soon as I can scrounge up one of the stupid 15 off 100 coupons..
 
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Onkyo is a great brand and that is a great price. I recommend this also if you have the $$$$$. Just upgrade the speaker wire and your set
 
[quote name='lowgear26']Onkyo is a great barand and that is a great price. I recommend this also if you have the $$$$$. Just upgrade the speaker wire and your set[/quote]

I have to go get speakers and the wires when it comes in.. its my xmas gift from my parents.. i sent them the link and im like ..

Here.. Buy me. Christmas.

Now to pick out some hella good speakers for the surround sound and wires.
 
[quote name='Megalith']It's a shame that nobody actually concerns themselves with sound quality when they buy a receiver these days.[/quote]

Huh?
 
If you belong to AAA you can go to their site and get a 10% off coupon to stack on this as well. It's good for one use online, over the phone or instore.
 
[quote name='mitch079']If you belong to AAA you can go to their site and get a 10% off coupon to stack on this as well. It's good for one use online, over the phone or instore.[/quote]

Whats AAA?
 
Thanks bill :)

Hopefully others jump on this deal..

Im pissed the silver.. OF THE SAME DAMN MODEL. SAME DAMN EVERYTHING..

Is 200 bucks more.. 899.. grrr.. it looks so much cooler too -_-V

Oh well.. time to get speakers..
 
Ugh...can't apply online for the no interest credit card. Says their system is down. I'm gonna keep trying and hopefully it'll go through cause I want this baby.
 
that is a really sick system.... just the fact that it has 3 x HDMI is nice

ONKYO stuff is built solid too, imo.

my system is fine for my needs tho
 
That's a very nice reciever, was gonna get it but decided to just buy the Onkyo HT-SP908 full home theater with dvd player. Has the 605 reciever which also has HDMI inputs/output that does full audio/video (great for my needs). Onkyo is def. worth the money, imo. Picked it up for around $700 total.
 
That is a good receiver but it is far from the best on the market, maybe the best receiver for $700 though. This sale is also probably due to the fact that new models will start hitting the market right after the new year.

But this does look like a pretty good price for this Onkyo, most of the other direct electronics re-sellers are pushing this model in the $800 range.
 
Its originally 1100.. Its been 1100 since it came out.. only a month ago did it drop to 999.. and then today 699.

So I jumped on it..

Its the best in the market for hi def right now.. I mean its 700 for a 1.1k receiver, and no speakers, so I get my own speakers instead of stupid ass bundles.

Plus 3 hdmi inputs (one of the few) and true hd dolby digital, losses audio (once again, one of the few) and a very easy setup?

Ive been running blu ray's hd dvd's through my samsung 57inch dlp tv for nearly a year now.

Time to upgrade..I never knew how much of a difference audio quality could be changed through a receiver, a friend has a lower grade onkyo without lossless audio and such, it sounds nice.

Can't wait.. saw 4 jan 22.. :)
 
[quote name='Ice2Dragon']Whats AAA?[/QUOTE]

www.aaa.com - it's a motor club with roadside assistance that also offers various national and local discounts to members. Rental cars, hotels, and restaurants are the primary ones but they do have some retailers. For instance, they also have a Target 10% off in-store coupon. It might be worth it if you travel a lot but my mom has been a member for years and she always includes myself and my sister on her membership. The roadside assistance has come in handy for me in the past.
 
[quote name='Ice2Dragon']Its originally 1100.. Its been 1100 since it came out.. only a month ago did it drop to 999.. and then today 699.

So I jumped on it..

Its the best in the market for hi def right now.. I mean its 700 for a 1.1k receiver, and no speakers, so I get my own speakers instead of stupid ass bundles.

[/QUOTE]

You do know that Onkyo themselves make several models that outperform this model right? Not to mention the likes of Denon and the other real top tier manufacturers.

You got a good price on this receiver but it is hardly the best in high def.

I hope you enjoy the receiver though, I've never owned a bad Onkyo product, just make sure you get some speakers that do the receiver justice.
 
[quote name='BillyBob29']You do know that Onkyo themselves make several models that outperform this model right? Not to mention the likes of Denon and the other real top tier manufacturers.

You got a good price on this receiver but it is hardly the best in high def.

I hope you enjoy the receiver though, I've never owned a bad Onkyo product, just make sure you get some speakers that do the receiver justice.[/quote]

Those models cost upwards of 2k. I got this for 699. And since it does everything and more that blu ray / hd dvd can handle, Im quite content with the fact Ill be fine for years to come.

I got SIX, yes SIX of these...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7973543&type=product&id=1157067061302

And one center.. cant find the link.

Its been a good day :)
 
[quote name='gimmepilotwings']Shop Onkyo had this for as low has $529 refurbished. I bought it from them for $599 and have been bery happy with it so far.[/QUOTE]

yea, I usually check them 3-4 times a week.. they havent had it for a while though.
 
That is a nice receiver....what are the others that support all the Next-Gen formats for less?

I would love to upgrade...but one thing at a time.
 
Looks like it's back up to $899. I would've jumped on this deal if I hadn't already purchased the 805 for $750. Awesome deal for whoever got in on it.

[quote name='doubledown']That is a nice receiver....what are the others that support all the Next-Gen formats for less?

I would love to upgrade...but one thing at a time.[/QUOTE]

There are a couple models below this that still support the various HD audio formats. Specifically the 705 and 605. Check out the Onkyo website for specs on those.
 
I'm interested in the new ES series Sony receiver so that I can guarantee a better image processor than what is already in my $5K TV. The last Sony ES model would only passthrough at 1080p HDMI, but would scale everything else to 1080p (even HDMI). I don't want pass-through, and I haven't found a deal on the newer one, so I'm open to alternatives.

With this Onkyo unit, is it HDMI pass-through or can it, say, do fancy image processing even with 1080p HDMI sources? Some Blu-Ray discs are intentionally mis-flagged for higher detail with future receivers. For instance, the NIN Beside You In Time BD (reference quality) is flagged as 1080i when it is actually 1080p/30. This was done because BD spec does not have a 1080p/24 or 1080p/30, and expects them all to be 1080p/60 (3:2 pulldown/telecined or frame-doubled), so this was a way to bump it up to 30 progressive FPS for future intelligent receivers while maintaining compatibility.

I can safely assume that any receiver doing this is better than what is in my set.
 
[quote name='doubledown']That is a nice receiver....what are the others that support all the Next-Gen formats for less?

I would love to upgrade...but one thing at a time.[/QUOTE]

From what I understand, basically all the HD players and such out now will do all the decoding for you and send the audio to the reciever. So you really don't need the receiver to decode the info. You just want to make sure that a receiver accecpts audio via HDMI and not just pass thru everything.

But I may be mistaken.
 
I've got the Onkyo 605 ( for the hdmi 1.3, and hdmi switching). I'm very happy with it.

I was surprised the TRUE-HD and DTS-HD quality (lossless audio) was quite better than the regular. The onscreen set-up menu makes setup easy, along with the automatic room calibration works most bitchin like.

Hint: read the manual and set it up accordingly, sounds much better than winging it.
 
[quote name='mydogisdexter']I've got the Onkyo 605 ( for the hdmi 1.3, and hdmi switching). I'm very happy with it.

I was surprised the TRUE-HD and DTS-HD quality (lossless audio) was quite better than the regular. The onscreen set-up menu makes setup easy, along with the automatic room calibration works most bitchin like.

Hint: read the manual and set it up accordingly, sounds much better than winging it.[/QUOTE]

Thanks...I will keep my eye on that. I'm hoping the price gets cheap enough to justify a purchase...to my wife ;)

I could probably get a decent amount for my Sony ES receiver.
 
[quote name='v0yce']From what I understand, basically all the HD players and such out now will do all the decoding for you and send the audio to the reciever. So you really don't need the receiver to decode the info. You just want to make sure that a receiver accecpts audio via HDMI and not just pass thru everything.

But I may be mistaken.[/QUOTE]

This is mostly true for Dolby Digital Plus and TrueHD, but I'm not aware of any player that currently decodes DTS-HD and Master. A few of my Blu-ray movies have DTS-HD MA tracks, with no PCM track, so I'm hoping that one of these days Sony will add DTS-HD decoding to the PS3. None of the almost 40 HD DVDs I own have a DTS-HD/MA track.
 
[quote name='CZroe']With this Onkyo unit, is it HDMI pass-through or can it, say, do fancy image processing even with 1080p HDMI sources? Some Blu-Ray discs are intentionally mis-flagged for higher detail with future receivers. For instance, the NIN Beside You In Time BD (reference quality) is flagged as 1080i when it is actually 1080p/30. This was done because BD spec does not have a 1080p/24 or 1080p/30, and expects them all to be 1080p/60 (3:2 pulldown/telecined or frame-doubled), so this was a way to bump it up to 30 progressive FPS for future intelligent receivers while maintaining compatibility.[/quote] No, it can't do anything to a 1080p signal, or upconvert past 720p (limitation of the Faroujida scaler/deinterlacer). To get upscaling to 1080p and be able to modify 1080p content (though I don't know why you'd want to do the latter), you need either the 875 or 905, which have the Silicon Optix HQV Reon processor.

However, you shouldn't need that for the example you listed. Most TVs nowadays have competent deinterlacers, so converting 60i to 60p should not be an issue. If you have a TV with an awful deinterlacer or none at all (such as the 1st gen Sony SXRDs), then you'll want either a player or receiver that can do that task properly for you.
 
[quote name='geko29']The 605 is a better receiver in almost every respect for about the same money.[/QUOTE]

In what respects specifically? I've read that it does a crappy job of video processing (and converts everything to 720p), so I prefer the Sony's lack of processing. In-receiver TrueHD processing is pretty useless, as the HD-DVD player does that. I think the Sony has more inputs too (2 more optical and 1 more HDMI in). Am I missing anything?

By the way, Amazon.com currently has the OP receiver (the 805) for $749 shipped. This is new - wasn't the price earlier. : http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR80...000OBJW1S/ref=pd_ts_e_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics
 
[quote name='gkrykewy']In what respects specifically? I've read that it does a crappy job of video processing (and converts everything to 720p), so I prefer the Sony's lack of processing.[/quote]
It does a crappy job of upconverting IF you use the service codes to go into the hidden menu and turn on a feature that's not officially supported. If you don't, then you get no processing. However, it does a rather good job of deinterlacing 480i sources to 480p with that setting disabled, and allows 720p/1080i/1080p to pass through.

[quote name='gkrykewy']In-receiver TrueHD processing is pretty useless, as the HD-DVD player does that.[/quote]
Not entirely useless. Current HD DVD players can't decode TrueHD in 7.1, if that matters, and also can't do DTS-HD HR or DTS-HD MA. So no lossless audio from New Line or imported titles. Also, should you ever get a Blu-Ray player, both TrueHD and DTS-HD HR/MA are optional, so having a receiver that can decode them could save you a hundred or two bucks vs. a higher-end unit. Remember, there was a time when most DVD players decoded DD and DTS internally. Now it's all done by the receiver, because it's more economical that way. Advanced audio codecs will likely go the same way.

[quote name='gkrykewy']I think the Sony has more inputs too (2 more optical and 1 more HDMI in). Am I missing anything?[/quote]
You are correct there, and in fact that's the sole reason I didn't say the 605 was better in every respect. Sony receivers, in general, tend to have more inputs than just about any other brand. Then again I don't use 95% of the inputs on my 905, despite having 8 devices attached to it :)

The Onkyo's amp is also of higher quality, with 20% lower distortion.
 
[quote name='gkrykewy']I'm very tempted by the Sony DG910 for $399 at JR.com:
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4171347

Passes everything through HDMI without conversion, and would accept TrueHD decoded by my HD DVD player. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

I think I'm going to pick up the 910 also.

I've read too many syching and overheating issues with the Onkyo 605. The 3 HDMI inputs is great for the price and the input labeling with the Sony is a nice bonus.
 
[quote name='geko29']It does a crappy job of upconverting IF you use the service codes to go into the hidden menu and turn on a feature that's not officially supported. If you don't, then you get no processing. However, it does a rather good job of deinterlacing 480i sources to 480p with that setting disabled, and allows 720p/1080i/1080p to pass through.[/QUOTE]

You make a number of excellent points, and I appreciate your thoughts. My concerns about the 605 stem from the CNET review, and in particular the following "The bad: Downconverts 1080i component video signals to 720p when outputting over HDMI; HDMI video quality converted from analog sources may not satisfy videophiles."

Currently I have no surround sound receiver. I have a Sony DG510 on backorder with Best Buy (black friday) for $99. I'm fine sticking with that for awhile, as it will be a major upgrade for me, but I'm toying with the idea of finding an "all in one" solution that will let me enjoy TrueHD from my HD-DVDs and also pass through all of my devices to my TV via HDMI. I output HD cable at 1080i, so the 605's spotty processing is a concern - despite what you wrote, it appears that it does some processing.

Am I misunderstanding something, or is the CNET review incorrect?
 
[quote name='gkrykewy']You make a number of excellent points, and I appreciate your thoughts. My concerns about the 605 stem from the CNET review, and in particular the following "The bad: Downconverts 1080i component video signals to 720p when outputting over HDMI; HDMI video quality converted from analog sources may not satisfy videophiles."

Currently I have no surround sound receiver. I have a Sony DG510 on backorder with Best Buy (black friday) for $99. I'm fine sticking with that for awhile, as it will be a major upgrade for me, but I'm toying with the idea of finding an "all in one" solution that will let me enjoy TrueHD from my HD-DVDs and also pass through all of my devices to my TV via HDMI. I output HD cable at 1080i, so the 605's spotty processing is a concern - despite what you wrote, it appears that it does some processing.

Am I misunderstanding something, or is the CNET review incorrect?[/quote]
You are not misundersanding, the CNET review is in fact wrong. They turned on the upscaling function, which does a mediocre job of upscaling DVDs to 720p. Unfortunately, the chip running it is not intelligent. When this feature is on, all analog sources are output to HDMI as 720p, including things that came in as 1080i. HDMI inputs are unaffected. That's where the majority of the complaints come from. But if you leave this feature off (I forget the setting, my receiver doesn't have it), the receiver leaves HD video alone. My parents are watching 1080i video (they have a CRT RPTV) from their HD DVR or HD DVD player right now, passed through the 605 untouched.

Here's a post from AVS that describes the condition. Basically, when 720p upscaling is turned on from the secret menu, all analog sources pass through the Faroujida processor, which does not have enough bandwidth to upconvert 1080i and place it on the HDMI output, so it downscales it to 720p first. Analog in->analog out and HDMI in->HDMI out are strictly passthrough regardless of the setting in this menu.

Hope that helps.
 
[quote name='geko29'] But if you leave this feature off (I forget the setting, my receiver doesn't have it), the receiver leaves HD video alone. My parents are watching 1080i video (they have a CRT RPTV) from their HD DVR or HD DVD player right now, passed through the 605 untouched.[/QUOTE]

But that AVS post you linked appears confirm that the receiver cannot switch 1080i component to 1080i HDMI, regardless of the service menu setting.
 
You are correct. From browsing the 605 Owner's Thread, it appears that 1080i via component IS in fact always downscaled to 720p for HDMI output. component->component and HDMI->HDMI is straight passthrough. So yes, if you have 1080i component sources and a 1080i/p TV, the 605 probably isn't the receiver for you.

Sorry about that. Too tough to keep all of the intracacies straight these days. But thanks for helping me get my shit together. :)
 
[quote name='Ice2Dragon']

3 Hdmi Inputs
7.1 Surround Sound
DTS Master Audio
Lossless Audio

Basically, the best audio receiver on the market right now.. and one of the few that does 7.1 surround sound with hdmi :)
[/quote]
Allow me to introduce you to NAD:

http://nadelectronics.com/index

The best audio receiver on the market right now.

As for 7.1:

http://www.harmankardon.com/product_detail.aspx?cat=REC&prod=AVR%20247

http://www.harmankardon.com/product_detail.aspx?cat=REC&prod=AVR%20347

...and I'm feeling too lazy to look up every other company that produces 7 channel receivers, but needless to say, suggesting the Onkyo was the best states you might need to review more options, cheaper options. Much much cheaper options.
 
[quote name='meesterjojo']Allow me to introduce you to NAD:

http://nadelectronics.com/index

The best audio receiver on the market right now.

As for 7.1:

http://www.harmankardon.com/product_detail.aspx?cat=REC&prod=AVR%20247

http://www.harmankardon.com/product_detail.aspx?cat=REC&prod=AVR%20347

...and I'm feeling too lazy to look up every other company that produces 7 channel receivers, but needless to say, suggesting the Onkyo was the best states you might need to review more options, cheaper options. Much much cheaper options.[/QUOTE]

HK products are how you say.. crap. Ive never met anyone who has had a HK component that has lasted more than 15 months without some sort of repair, myself included.
 
[quote name='meesterjojo']Allow me to introduce you to NAD:

http://nadelectronics.com/index

The best audio receiver on the market right now.

As for 7.1:

http://www.harmankardon.com/product_detail.aspx?cat=REC&prod=AVR%20247

http://www.harmankardon.com/product_detail.aspx?cat=REC&prod=AVR%20347

...and I'm feeling too lazy to look up every other company that produces 7 channel receivers, but needless to say, suggesting the Onkyo was the best states you might need to review more options, cheaper options. Much much cheaper options.[/quote]

HK makes a nice product, but nothing can beat the Onkyo 805, its features, and the 529 price that many people were able to take advantage of... and its not even close.
 
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