Online gaming: anyone NOT interested?

I dont like playing online generally, some games I do like Diablo 2, but mostly I don't care for it, plus most you have to pay for (I dont have an XBOX) and I dont like to pay monthly fees.
 
[quote name='defender']I think gamers are wasting not only their time but their money[/quote]

It's all a waste of resources (time and money). I've known that for years...
 
Online gaming's great... as long as the company can guarantee the game can ALWAYS be playable online.

If not, count me out.
 
While I dont think online is a necessity, I do think that it can add much more to some games, and Im glad I have online. Although, mines for ps2, where you don't have to pay for anything but the Network Adapter, and theres no subscription fee.
 
counter strike is basically free...you can get a key for like $15 or less and then play for hundreds of hours with no monthly fees...

if you break it down I have probably paid like 10 cents an hour for the game
 
Online Gaming is a mixed bag for me. I really love football but you can't play any online game where the main objective of the other player is too choose plays that take advantage of the flaws of the ai constantly (rolls eyes) i played seven straight online games of espn 2k5 and they all go in the 50's because everyone uses the eagles play books with that stupid drag play for speed receivers. You cant even play defense because of lag half the time.
 
[quote name='defender']counter strike is basically free...you can get a key for like $15 or less and then play for hundreds of hours with no monthly fees...

if you break it down I have probably paid like 10 cents an hour for the game[/quote]

$15 OMFG!!!!!!!!!!! i can't stand pay to play games tehy r teh suck... :roll:
 
[quote name='zewone'][quote name='Alpha2']I CANT get broadband.[/quote]

Then I'm sorry. But really you can't judge online gaming by the fact that you can only play a small amount of games and at bad quality. If you ever get the chance to get broadband try out Live and it should change your opinion.[/quote]

Well first, I'm not interested in Xbox (There arnt any games on it that instill any desire to own it) so even if I had broadband I wouldn't be spending money for Live ,which BTW I've seen the specs and features list for and can honestly say I'm not all that interested in it.

Second I wasn't basing my opinion on the fact that I cant play games Broadband, I was stating that the dependance on it is making it difficult to enjoy games that require it. This is only part of my post not the entire point.

[quote name='Defender']There are those who know...and those that don't know. Guess which one you are. [/quote]

I'm not sure where you're going with this comment, rather than try to be cute why not just come out and say what you're thinking.
 
[quote name='gaelan'][quote name='Alpha2']I CANT get broadband.[/quote]

DSL?[/quote]

The problem isnt service the problem is that person who owns the line is a prick and refuses to even attempt to upgrade to something faster. Being unemployed I do not have the means to afford my own personal line and thus I am forced to use 56k or nothing.
 
[quote name='dafoomie'][quote name='sketch226']If you look at sales figures, vast majority of console owners don't play online games on their consoles.

This is a little dated but I doubt much has changed...

Quoted From http://www.gamesarefun.com/gamesdb/editorial.php?editorialid=5

With the newest numbers for Xbox Live, 5.4% of the Xboxes shipped are connected to it. Xbox Live sales flat lined until Microsoft started giving it away with each Xbox. From late April until December, Microsoft could not say any number higher than their previously stated 'around 500,000 subscribers.' Now they get to say 'around 750,000.' Good thing it sells so well, eh? Eight months of little to no discernible sales, then a rush when they give the online playing ability away? And the “rush” wasn't even near what Microsoft would have liked.

I'm wondering how many people will keep their trial Xbox Live subscriptions for a while, now that Halo 2, which I'm sure is the title many of those new subscribers were looking forward to, has had its release date set as "Fall 2004"; which is far later than the hoped March or April release Xbox owners, including myself, hoped/thought would come (well, I predict November, myself, but many other Xbox owners hoped for or genuinely beleived March or April as a release date). My bet is that most of the new subscribers, especially the free two-month ones, cancel until the release of Halo 2. It'll be interesting to see if Microsoft can make their projected 1 million Xbox Live subscribers by June, especially since the game that would have ensured that number isn't due out until months after June.

And only 2.9% of the PS2s out there are connected to the Internet according to Sony. And the largest games for Sony's online gaming? Madden and SOCOM; all the other online games tend to get little traffic, even the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater games, which were the first to go online on the PS2.
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Umm, you don't think that Halo 2 and Mechassault 2, among the other recent great additions to Xbox Live, might drive sales?

Think about how many more live games there are since February 04.[/quote]

No, I definitely think there have been games since then like Halo 2 and MechAssault 2 that have driven XBL sales. The point is, even if last year's holiday lineup got a million more people on XBL for more than just a trial period (which is doubtful) then we're still talking a very small percentage of XBox owners- in the neighborhood of 10% or so- so my original point remains valid- VAST majority of console gamers do not play games online.
 
[quote name='sketch226'][quote name='dafoomie'][quote name='sketch226']If you look at sales figures, vast majority of console owners don't play online games on their consoles.

This is a little dated but I doubt much has changed...

Quoted From http://www.gamesarefun.com/gamesdb/editorial.php?editorialid=5

With the newest numbers for Xbox Live, 5.4% of the Xboxes shipped are connected to it. Xbox Live sales flat lined until Microsoft started giving it away with each Xbox. From late April until December, Microsoft could not say any number higher than their previously stated 'around 500,000 subscribers.' Now they get to say 'around 750,000.' Good thing it sells so well, eh? Eight months of little to no discernible sales, then a rush when they give the online playing ability away? And the “rush” wasn't even near what Microsoft would have liked.

I'm wondering how many people will keep their trial Xbox Live subscriptions for a while, now that Halo 2, which I'm sure is the title many of those new subscribers were looking forward to, has had its release date set as "Fall 2004"; which is far later than the hoped March or April release Xbox owners, including myself, hoped/thought would come (well, I predict November, myself, but many other Xbox owners hoped for or genuinely beleived March or April as a release date). My bet is that most of the new subscribers, especially the free two-month ones, cancel until the release of Halo 2. It'll be interesting to see if Microsoft can make their projected 1 million Xbox Live subscribers by June, especially since the game that would have ensured that number isn't due out until months after June.

And only 2.9% of the PS2s out there are connected to the Internet according to Sony. And the largest games for Sony's online gaming? Madden and SOCOM; all the other online games tend to get little traffic, even the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater games, which were the first to go online on the PS2.
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Umm, you don't think that Halo 2 and Mechassault 2, among the other recent great additions to Xbox Live, might drive sales?

Think about how many more live games there are since February 04.[/quote]

No, I definitely think there have been games since then like Halo 2 and MechAssault 2 that have driven XBL sales. The point is, even if last year's holiday lineup got a million more people on XBL for more than just a trial period (which is doubtful) then we're still talking a very small percentage of XBox owners- in the neighborhood of 10% or so- so my original point remains valid- VAST majority of console gamers do not play games online.[/quote]

i think hi speed internet availability also contributes to the figures above. even though broadband use is growing by leaps and bounds, the majority of the US is still without a hi speed internet connection.
 
[quote name='bfg9k']Seeing that most games are played competatively rather than cooperatively, I am not all that interested in online gaming. Also, I don't have a huge amount of time, and since I consider myself to be only an average skilled gamer, I can't even begin to compete on xbox live. [/quote]

Exactly my thoughts [except for the xbox live thing, I don't have an xbox.] The vast majority of online games are either sports [not into] or FPSes [not really into, and suck at]. And while I love video games, I'm not that great at a lot of them, and I don't have the 14 hours a day to practice that a lot of the kids online do. I have played Ratchet and Clank online, and that was pretty fun, but at least once a session I'd join a newbie-game, and some total non-newbie would join in and apparently want to feel like a big boy by massacring all us newbies.

I did play EQ a couple years back, but i didn't do much of the socializing which is a big component of it. I'm interested in City of hEroes and have heard a lot of good things about WoW, but:
* my computer won't run either of those;
* I don't want to pay another 8-15/mo. for the privilege of playing one game.

I used to play Diablo a lot online; I was in GA and my wife was in NC, and we dialed in on our unlimited-access ISP and played all night. Honest game, cheaper than long distance, no pk or hackers.

Plus the games I like, are generally more single-player type games [RPGs], or if I play multi, I'd rather play local.

Online, to me, is definitely a neat concept and will be bigger in the future--right now, the types of games are too limited, and a lot of people see the hardware or monthly fee costs as a hurdle.

But I agree with someone else, someone who sells an online game, depending on how much of the game is online, should guarantee at least some specific time frame the game will exist.
 
I dont do online gaming period.

The purpose of games for me is to tell a story. The length of time spent to get the story from an MMO is grossly inefficient. You could finish stacks of single player RPGs before maxing out the things to do in say, FFXI

If graphics interest you, then single player games still have the crown on that.

Therefore, the only thing that online games add is interaction with people, or something that results from that. If I really wanted to interact with people, I'd go outside. Social interaction has no place in gaming, for me anyway.

Happiness is a self-contained universe.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']I dont do online gaming period.

The purpose of games for me is to tell a story. The length of time spent to get the story from an MMO is grossly inefficient. You could finish stacks of single player RPGs before maxing out the things to do in say, FFXI

If graphics interest you, then single player games still have the crown on that.

Therefore, the only thing that online games add is interaction with people, or something that results from that. If I really wanted to interact with people, I'd go outside. Social interaction has no place in gaming, for me anyway.

Happiness is a self-contained universe.[/quote]

Another example of those that know and those that don't. You admit you don't online game yet you are judging graphics? lol...and yeah...you are right...you could play an entire stack of console games OR just one online game...hmm...which do you think is the better deal? Personally I would rather be addicted to a never ending game than die waiting for part 2 of some console RPG that might suck anyways. If you find even 1 good online game...you could be set for years.

As for social interaction being the only good reason for online games..again...you aren't one to say since you haven't tried it. Basically since online games have thousands of real players the competition tends to be incredibly fierce. There is seemingly always someone better than you to beat. In a console...the game is finite. In the PC online world games are nearly infinite.

Back to graphics now...have you bothered to see the awesome graphics of World of Warcraft? How about the new Counter-Strike source. Sorry but Halo 2 looks like crap to me in comparison. I bet when Halo 2 comes out on PC that it blows the lid off the xbox version and the amount of players will be incredibly higher...why would you think that would be? Maybe...because online PC gaming is SUPREME.
 
Assuming you have to money to upgrade your PC.

And to say "another" you'd first have to prove your FIRST example.

Anyway, PC gaming is a very differnt thing from Console gaming in that it's been online a lot longer it's methods are more refined thanks to years with keyboard and mouse. Defender, you seem mroe an advocate of PC games which suggests to me you've been playing them for a good long while and are used to the various personalities.

Consolers are used to the controller being their only input. They press a button, shit explodes. This instant gratification is what they're used to, it can color their preferance sometimes and meeting assholes and lamers on the internet isnt going to help sway them to the side of the online game.

It's like being inside most of you life and the first time you leave your house you get mugged. Going out becomes a lot less pleasant than it first might have been. Sure there are people with tougher skin who get in and stay in for things like the sports games and death matches that are more fun with thinking people behind the other avatars, but not everyone is going to feel the same.
 
no, graphics dont interest me in the slightest, I was just throwing that out there. I'd rather be playing snes grade rpgs but they just dont make them like they used to. I probably put more time into my GBA then anything else.

And I have tried it, I used to be a counterstrike junky for a number of years, but I managed to kick the habit.

Online gaming is certainly good if you are interested in competitive gaming(particularly FPS). I actually held mario kart competitions for almost 2 years, but I refused to play online, I traveled and set up shop at lan parties and gaming/anime conventions. The serious competitive fighting games however(Tekken, VF, SC, 3rd Strike), arent really played online yet. When you've got to worry about individual frames, you cant be playing online.

A lot of opinion goes into the matter. You might prefer never-ending games, or you might want your self contained beginning and end universe. Its not like one is actually better. Its just an opinion. Nobody is really wrong on the matter.

If you are playing games for story, then playing MMO's are a massive waste of time, if there were a mythical way to calculate unit story per unit playing time.

A friend of mine has been playing FFXI for over a year. He's currently level 63 or so. He's actually beaten several single player games because he spends a lot of time waiting for a party invite (since you really cant solo).

There is or at least was, a certain amount of escapism in gaming. It was a niche, hardcore, geekish thing. When I want to escape from the drama of reality, I dont want to end up in another nearly infinitely open other world.
 
[quote name='gaelan'][quote name='Alpha2'] Defender you seem mroe an advocate of PC games [/quote]

you think???[/quote]

I was trying to be subtle :p
 
[quote name='defender']I bet when Halo 2 comes out on PC that it blows the lid off the xbox version and the amount of players will be incredibly higher...why would you think that would be? Maybe...because online PC gaming is SUPREME.[/quote]

1. more people own pc's
2. graphic cards are upgradeable whereas xbox is not

if you got the money for upgrades and the patience for patches then pc gaming is the way to go. if you want the fat and happy approach to turning on the console and inserting desired game then console is for you. personally, i use console for gaming, and i use pc for work and information gathering/collecting. personal choice...nothing right about it...nothing wrong about it.
 
I understand console gaming just fine...I been gaming for years. Just because I know what a Peter Luger steak tastes like doesn't mean I don't try a fast food burger every now and then. I just don't fool myself by thinking the burger is better.

There are a ton of PC games that do not require much in the way of hardware. Check out Soldat.com which was noted in another thread here at CAG today. It's basic but because it's online and part of the PC community the game is pretty schweet.

There is a place and time for console gaming but ultimately it's PCs that I believe people spend more hours playing per gamer. I can spend 20-40 hours a week just on Counter-Strike every single week. Name one console game you could even play for more than 100 hours! Halo MIGHT be the closest thing but it's just a wannabe PC online shooter ported to a console. It's not anymore amazing than Unreal Tournament or other games currently on PC. Suddenly all these console gamers are jerking off to Halo yet for years PC gamers been playing games even better. Console gaming is at least 3 years behind the current PC game market. It is always behind until the release of a new console but then it doesn't surpase it...it mearly catches up. Then quickly it falls behind while advanced on the PC continue almost monthly...console gamers wait 5-7 years.

As for money to upgrade your PC. If you stopped buying games you can finish in 3 hours (resident evil) and bought something that takes 3 hours to learn to play...then you would spend less time at the game store and more time gaming. You would also spend less money.

BLAH!
 
It's just another way for the big companies to make money off something that use to be free. If i want multiplayer games, i have friends to play with. Those who don't have friends, well you can pay for some.
 
[quote name='defender']I understand console gaming just fine...I been gaming for years. Just because I know what a Peter Luger steak tastes like doesn't mean I don't try a fast food burger every now and then. I just don't fool myself by thinking the burger is better.[/quote]
hey steak fanboy,
burgers rule...steaks suck
[quote name='defender']
There is a place and time for console gaming but ultimately it's PCs that I believe people spend more hours playing per gamer.[/quote]
cause more people own computers than consoles
[quote name='defender'] I can spend 20-40 hours a week just on Counter-Strike every single week. Name one console game you could even play for more than 100 hours! [/quote]
ElderScrolls3: Morrowind
[quote name='defender']As for money to upgrade your PC. If you stopped buying games you can finish in 3 hours (resident evil) [/quote]
is it really a 4 hour game? that is pretty lame
 
Defender, that's entirely opinion.

A "3 hour" game (yes Resident evil can often be beatin in 3 hours but try doing that the first time through without a guide) with a good story can be a highly entertaining experience. 3 hours of a FPS can mean a brain hemorage for me personally thanks to Motion sickness. Then to go online and get aced by people yelling "HAY N00B G0 BAK 2 Y0R MoM E ThT I FuXX0'D l45t n16Ht!!!1"? Yeah maybe it's not going to happen all the time but I think I'd prefer playing Disgaea for 50 hours getting up to level 999+ (which is entirely possible but I'm guessing you didnt know that playing all that counterstrike :p).
 
[quote name='Alpha2']Defender, that's entirely opinion.
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pc's are like opinions...everybody's got one

defender just outta curiosity how much would you say your rig is worth right now (cpu, monitor, m&kb, and all the goodies that go with it) and how much have you put into it in the past 4 years.
 
Right now I really don't care about online gaming because I don't have broadband, but that will change the day I get broadband.
 
[quote name='defender']There is a place and time for console gaming but ultimately it's PCs that I believe people spend more hours playing per gamer.[/quote]

You're deluded.

You should also know better since you run a gaming store. What are PC games, like 15% of the market now? 20% maybe? It hardly matters if PC gamers spend more time sitting in front of their computers when its the console industry thats driving the entire market.

[quote name='defender']If you stopped buying games you can finish in 3 hours (resident evil)[/quote]

Why should I? I happen to like games that give me a new experience with new environments, new things to explore, and a story I haven't seen unfold yet. I don't care if the game only lasts me 10-15 hours. I'll enjoy it more than repetitive death matching and lining up to kill monsters in some mmorpg.

You can beat Rez in 2-3 hours and its one of the coolest games ever made as far as I'm concerned.

Get off your horse and realize this is a matter of opinion.
 
Online play is over rated. I'd prefer a Solid single player game over Multi any day. Online is fun, but a developer needs to put that on the back burner first, and worry about the single player experience (unless the game is supposed to be play online i.e BF1942). Half assing the Single player and making a great multi doesn't rub me the right way at all. To me it seems the trend of gamers theses days is "Is it online? oh it isn't, screw that then". I don't mind Multiplayer in games, what I do mind is when developers put all there effort on the online portion of the game and then making the single player stale. Multiplayer should be the icing on an already kick ass cake.
 
the people online kill the experience there should be laws that no one under 17 can play M rated games online. I got so sick of pre-pubescent 13 year olds on halo 2 that i sold the game.
 
[quote name='sevdustflyer']the people online kill the experience there should be laws that no one under 17 can play M rated games online. I got so sick of pre-pubescent 13 year olds on halo 2 that i sold the game.[/quote]

This is the reason I hardly play online anymore also. Online bullshit is the #1 reason I hardly ever play online anymore. You either have 13 year olds high pitched bitching, Immature players, overinflated ego's, and cheating to name a few. I'm also tired of the same old Online play (i've been online gaming since 97), It's either Death Match/ Team Deathmatch, or some MMORPG leveling up until you hands get carpal tunnel, and good CO-OP (which is my favorite type) games are slim pickings on the PC and Online Consoles. Online gaming needs to be re-invented, because at this rate will be playing the same crap year after year.
 
[quote name='sevdustflyer']the people online kill the experience there should be laws that no one under 17 can play M rated games online. I got so sick of pre-pubescent 13 year olds on halo 2 that i sold the game.[/quote]

On my server we kick anyone that sounds like a little kid and/or acts like it.

Monetarily it is console games that rake in the dollars...hey VideoGameDeals.com and my store didnt really even carry PC games because they sell so badly. The reason is NOT because people don't play them but because A) Piracy is rampant B) PC gamers do not need to buy games as often since the games they buy the play more.

As for my rig. I am a bad example since I tend to not care about money and I have been buying 2 new computers every year for the last 6 years. Currently I have 4 computers I use in my house.
 
[quote name='defender'][quote name='sevdustflyer']the people online kill the experience there should be laws that no one under 17 can play M rated games online. I got so sick of pre-pubescent 13 year olds on halo 2 that i sold the game.[/quote]

On my server we kick anyone that sounds like a little kid and/or acts like it.

Monetarily it is console games that rake in the dollars...hey VideoGameDeals.com and my store didnt really even carry PC games because they sell so badly. The reason is NOT because people don't play them but because A) Piracy is rampant B) PC gamers do not need to buy games as often since the games they buy the play more.

As for my rig. I am a bad example since I tend to not care about money and I have been buying 2 new computers every year for the last 6 years. Currently I have 4 computers I use in my house.[/quote]

do you build your own?
 
[quote name='defender']The reason is NOT because people don't play them but because A) Piracy is rampant B) PC gamers do not need to buy games as often since the games they buy the play more.[/quote]

Ahhhh, and here I was thinking it was because....

1. PC games have largely been minimized to 3 or 4 genres which are often oversaturated (especially RTS and lately MMORPGs)

2. PC games often get shipped unfinished

3. PCs are not nearly as user friendly as consoles, and dicking around with video cards, drivers, and graphic enhancement software is hardly worth whatever graphical edge PCs have on consoles (which is then erased with each new generation of consoles that is released)

Not to mention that we are rapidly advancing to the point where hardware/graphics will be so advanced that it simply won't be a deciding factor anymore. (For me, that time is already here.) :cool:
 
Nope, completely disinterests me, since I have no xbox and no ps2 wireless networking shit. But maybe if I had a half decent computer and about 200$ to blow for no apparent reason I might be interested in an MMORPG of some kind.
 
[quote name='Hereticked'][quote name='defender']The reason is NOT because people don't play them but because A) Piracy is rampant B) PC gamers do not need to buy games as often since the games they buy the play more.[/quote]

Ahhhh, and here I was thinking it was because....

1. PC games have largely been minimized to 3 or 4 genres which are often oversaturated (especially RTS and lately MMORPGs)

2. PC games often get shipped unfinished

3. PCs are not nearly as user friendly as consoles, and dicking around with video cards, drivers, and graphic enhancement software is hardly worth whatever graphical edge PCs have on consoles (which is then erased with each new generation of consoles that is released)

Not to mention that we are rapidly advancing to the point where hardware/graphics will be so advanced that it simply won't be a deciding factor anymore. (For me, that time is already here.) :cool:[/quote]

$150 for 3+ years of gaming and whatever i invested in games which isn't much thanks to CAG is definitely the way to go for myself. i see a green light and i know its game on.

for some of the gaming elite, a more high tech whiz bang approach may be necessary to satisfy their gaming needs.
 
I'd assume he his own PCs as any PC gamer would prefer to buy his parts rather than hope a dell has the components he needs.

The Consoler consumes games at a ravenous rate, that's obvious by the existance of CAG, but it not because they're faster to finish. I know I have dozens of unfinished games. It's probably more a question of attention span. Which is why the MMORPG story line argument holds so little water.

I can spend a week trying to find a group so I can get my level up high enough to see the next storyline in FF11 or WoW or I can play Baten Kaitos or FF10 and be just the right level when I get to the next boss in the storyline because of the dungeon I had to go through to get to it.

Of course there are the grinders in MMOs that love camping spawns for a month for a rare drop or the people who love building their ledgendary deathmatch status on some FPS so they can be worshiped as gods but it takes a totally differnt mentality to enjoy that.
 
[quote name='gaelan'][quote name='defender'][quote name='sevdustflyer']the people online kill the experience there should be laws that no one under 17 can play M rated games online. I got so sick of pre-pubescent 13 year olds on halo 2 that i sold the game.[/quote]

On my server we kick anyone that sounds like a little kid and/or acts like it.

Monetarily it is console games that rake in the dollars...hey VideoGameDeals.com and my store didnt really even carry PC games because they sell so badly. The reason is NOT because people don't play them but because A) Piracy is rampant B) PC gamers do not need to buy games as often since the games they buy the play more.

As for my rig. I am a bad example since I tend to not care about money and I have been buying 2 new computers every year for the last 6 years. Currently I have 4 computers I use in my house.[/quote]

do you build your own?[/quote]

He may not build his own computers, but he can sell you a Nintendo DS for $250 (what a bargain!).
 
i'm not interested in online gaming for any of my consoles. not to say that it's a bad concept, but i am stuck with my keyboard & mouse :) counterstrike was the only game i ever played online hehe.
 
[quote name='Hereticked'][quote name='defender']The reason is NOT because people don't play them but because A) Piracy is rampant B) PC gamers do not need to buy games as often since the games they buy the play more.[/quote]

Ahhhh, and here I was thinking it was because....

1. PC games have largely been minimized to 3 or 4 genres which are often oversaturated (especially RTS and lately MMORPGs)

2. PC games often get shipped unfinished

3. PCs are not nearly as user friendly as consoles, and dicking around with video cards, drivers, and graphic enhancement software is hardly worth whatever graphical edge PCs have on consoles (which is then erased with each new generation of consoles that is released)

Not to mention that we are rapidly advancing to the point where hardware/graphics will be so advanced that it simply won't be a deciding factor anymore. (For me, that time is already here.) :cool:[/quote]

Oh so now you are using intelligence and common sense to win the arguement...that's low man! This is CAG and you aren't allowed to do that.

As for a $250 NintendoDS...you act as if I was the only person who was selling them at a higher price. Also note: I paid $195 for them myself and ultimately lost money since I had 4 left after I left my store...so I lost about $780 and made about $500 on selling them..so even at $250 I LOST MONEY... What are you anyways...a communist?
 
I play the MMORPG online, addicting it is even though it's the same repetitive thing over and over.. trying to lvl up and getting items, selling, and all that. =T Probably that's about it otiherwise I don't want to pay for anything monthly. Or any other PC games except just some D2, SC, and GB.
 
I don't play PC games. I have XBL, and think it is okay at best. I like playing some Halo 2, or Guilty Gear, or Crimson Skies, etc. I would much rather have a LAN party with my friends though...
 
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