Palin made rape victims pay for rape kits and DNA tests

If that's really true, that's pretty awful. Many rapes don't get reported in the first place, and then placing a financial burden on the victims courageous enough to report the crime is awful.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']This is old news. God I hate this bitch.[/QUOTE]
Its not getting nearly enough play. I'd be shocked she was never asked about it, if she were actually allowed to be interviewed. Another absurdity for a Vice Presidential candidate.
 
It's a real shame how the McCain campaign is protecting her from journalists and voters who want to know more about her. Specifically explanations about things like this. :(

BTW, isn't the debate on Thursday? ;)
 
[quote name='Koggit']Yet another thing we'll never hear her comment on due to the lack of any real VP debate[/QUOTE]
That and her belief that humans and dinosaurs lived together 6000 years ago.
 
This is a bad joke in poor taste, but maybe she'll have to pay for her own rape kit after Thursday's debate.... probably not though. The media will make sure the debate is a joke with no actual substance, especially since this broad is such an idiot. They want the race to be close "FOR TEH RATINGS."

I can't believe anyone, ANYONE with a brain could actually consider voting for the McCain/Palin ticket in good conscience with this coont on the ticket. I can see people voting for McCain, no matter how idiotic he is, but she just takes it all to a new level of idiocy. I guess a near-majority of the American people are really that stupid, and it's frightening.
 
Welcome to September 8th.

.... and the shooting gallery continues....


FWIW, last I checked, there was no evidence that anyone was EVER charged for a rape kit under Palin's mayorship or after. When someone finds proof that anyone ever was, then we can start printing out the Palin dart boards for y'all.

But then again, I don't really care enough about this, like most of the media, to research it further.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']This is a bad joke in poor taste, but maybe she'll have to pay for her own rape kit after Thursday's debate.... probably not though. The media will make sure the debate is a joke with no actual substance, especially since this broad is such an idiot. They want the race to be close "FOR TEH RATINGS."

I can't believe anyone, ANYONE with a brain could actually consider voting for the McCain/Palin ticket in good conscience with this coont on the ticket. I can see people voting for McCain, no matter how idiotic he is, but she just takes it all to a new level of idiocy. I guess a near-majority of the American people are really that stupid, and it's frightening.[/QUOTE]

It's called racism. :(
My mom doesn't "trust" Obama, and that's pretty much her only defense when stating she's voting for McCain.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']

I can't believe anyone, ANYONE with a brain could actually consider voting for the McCain/Palin ticket in good conscience with this coont on the ticket. I can see people voting for McCain, no matter how idiotic he is, but she just takes it all to a new level of idiocy. I guess a near-majority of the American people are really that stupid, and it's frightening.[/quote]

Their racist.

"Barack the Magic Negro" was my clue.
 
Yeah, I kind of forgot the whole racism thing while writing that rant. But still, you have to be very stupid to be racist these days, so it all works out.
 
[quote name='SpazX']Well it's not entirely false - Wasilla charged for rape kits and she was mayor when they did - it's just that you can't really blame Palin for it as she didn't start it or anything. She didn't stop it, of course, but you can't really blame the fact that it happened on her individually.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_sarah_palin_make_rape_victims_pay.html[/QUOTE]
Thanks for posting the link.

There isn't a quote of her supporting this out there, but connect the dots. She hired the police chief that proposed this policy. Palin made it official town policy when she signed the town's budget, which contained it. Later, her police chief fought hard against the state law which banned towns from doing this.

If I am to believe that someone who is detail oriented enough to have specific library books she wanted banned, was absolutely unaware of this, she would either have to be the most incompetent public official alive or I would have to be as intellectually bankrupt as Palin herself.

Sarah Palin put pen to paper on a document that made rape victims in her town pay for their own rape kits, and that is a fact. It just isn't proven whether it was knowingly, or out of sheer incompetence.
 
The specific library books being banned isn't true either http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html
but there's still some foul shit afoot in that as well, such as firing the librarian for unstated reasons. But even though this shit isn't entirely true or just false, there's plenty of other shit, her incredible stupidity being just one, that makes it impossible to vote for the ticket with any good conscience whatsoever.
 
I am still waiting to see if someone can find evidence of anyone ever being charged for a rape kit in Wasilla. It's true that the law was on the books, but did it ever actually get enforced?
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']I am still waiting to see if someone can find evidence of anyone ever being charged for a rape kit in Wasilla. It's true that the law was on the books, but did it ever actually get enforced?[/QUOTE]

whoa whoa whoa. dont you get it?! shes a bitch for wanting to do this, i mean it was a policy enacted before she took office, and one that was stopped while she was in office when alaska changed their laws. but isnt it obvious shes responsible for something so deplorable because she hired a police chief that seemed to think it was a good idea. i mean sure the office said their intention was to charge the criminal with the kit as restitution, but if he thought it was a good idea, obviously that evil cunt thought it was a good idea too. ill be damned if ANYONE on this forum gives someone that thinks dinosaurs roamed the earth 4000 years ago the benefit of the doubt.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Oh alright. Makes sense now.

Carry on, bombs away.[/QUOTE]

glad you see the light. i hear from a reliable source that she doesnt care for blacks & jews as well.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']I am still waiting to see if someone can find evidence of anyone ever being charged for a rape kit in Wasilla. It's true that the law was on the books, but did it ever actually get enforced?[/quote]

The police chief says that he had before, according to the article in 2000.
 
[quote name='SpazX']The police chief says that he had before, according to the article in 2000.[/QUOTE]

I think this quote pretty much confirms they were charging for rape kits: "He complained that the state was requiring the town to spend $5,000 to $14,000 a year to cover the costs.
'I just don’t want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer,' the chief explained."
 
[quote name='winterice']I think this quote pretty much confirms they were charging for rape kits: "He complained that the state was requiring the town to spend $5,000 to $14,000 a year to cover the costs.
'I just don’t want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer,' the chief explained."[/QUOTE]

Do not expect the idiot brigade to stfu now, they are whiny titty babies as well dumbasses.

I have an idea. Why dont we just ask her? Oh we cant? Because she cannot answer simple questions without sounding like a buffoon?
 
Someone should make a mock-up receipt that says the following:

Wasilla Police Department
Wasilla, Alaska

04/15/2004
1 Rape Kit - $1000

Charged to Credit Card #---------------------
Signed -------------------

~HotShotX
 
Her position on abortion is ridiculous enough. This is just cyanide icing on a rat poison cake.

Palin does not care about women's issues. She's a complete hypocrite.

I have a feeling that after this election there will be a new word for women who stand up for the subjugation of women - a "Palin".

Who knows - someday this may be a historic post - here's hoping I called it first! :D
 
Rape is treated like because cops don't want to deal with it. Burglary and other violent crimes are easy to demonize the offender. Rape still gets that "The victim was asking for it" stigma.

What kills me is that there are many women that subscribe to the Republican way of thinking even though it's the ultimate good ole boy network. You have these Barbies that the Repubs put out there as candidates and they're all complete morons. Charge em for rape kits? Sure. They shouldn't be having sex anyway and we all know it's only drunk whores that get raped and didn't you know they all ask for it?
 
[quote name='winterice']I think this quote pretty much confirms they were charging for rape kits: "He complained that the state was requiring the town to spend $5,000 to $14,000 a year to cover the costs.
'I just don’t want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer,' the chief explained."[/QUOTE]

From everything I can find, the most that was ever done was charged to someone's insurance company. If the insurance company didn't/wouldn't/or couldn't pay for it, then it was dropped.

As for some poor raped woman looking for pennies in her couches to pay for her rape kit, as the picture these media stories paint, there is no evidence.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']From everything I can find, the most that was ever done was charged to someone's insurance company. If the insurance company didn't/wouldn't/or couldn't pay for it, then it was dropped.

As for some poor raped woman looking for pennies in her couches to pay for her rape kit, as the picture these media stories paint, there is no evidence.[/quote]


Is that from that single quote or do you have more sources?
 
[quote name='SpazX']Is that from that single quote or do you have more sources?[/QUOTE]

It's just from doing a lot of googling things like "Palin rape kit" and "Wasilla rape kit".

I get lots of news stories. But I would think, that if anyone ever had to pay money out of pocket for a rape kit, it would be pretty easy to find. There are a number of sources claiming nobody ever did though.

From what I gather it seems like it's just as if you got mugged, and then knee-capped. You'd go to the hospital, they would fix you, but they would still try to get your insurance to cover the cost.

I'm totally open to being wrong. I very well could be. Maybe my google skills are not up to snuff. If some woman ever had to break her mom's piggy bank to pay for a rape kit in Wasilla, especially on Palin's watch, I think that's a real story, and real bad for her. But doesn't seem like it's ever happened.

I really don't have a dog in this race, so if I'm wrong, I'd like to know.
 
I don't know if it was ever the fact that the women actually had to pay but the fact that the local government would make it a point. The fact that the police chief went to the state to fight the law was a bad thing to do. It's not like he just took vacation time. He had to have asked for a leave to go to the state capitol (at taxpayer expense) and go fight the law. It makes Wasilla look backward and since Palin represents Wasilla and the state of Alaska, it makes her look backward.
 
[quote name='depascal22']I don't know if it was ever the fact that the women actually had to pay but the fact that the local government would make it a point. The fact that the police chief went to the state to fight the law was a bad thing to do. It's not like he just took vacation time. He had to have asked for a leave to go to the state capitol (at taxpayer expense) and go fight the law. It makes Wasilla look backward and since Palin represents Wasilla and the state of Alaska, it makes her look backward.[/QUOTE]

Those are legitimate points of argument.

But those seem to be the ONLY points of argument. Contrary to what many in this thread were lead to believe by the media stories, there were no poor rape victims scrambling to pay for rape kits.
 
Hell, even the thread title makes it look that way. This could all be cleared up if Palin just made a statement. I don't expect her to say anything controversial but anything would be better than nothing.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']It's just from doing a lot of googling things like "Palin rape kit" and "Wasilla rape kit".

I get lots of news stories. But I would think, that if anyone ever had to pay money out of pocket for a rape kit, it would be pretty easy to find. [/quote]

Oh yeah, because there are probably plenty of women who want to put themselves on the national stage and talk about being a victim of a horrible crime while also having the priveledge of paying for it. I'm sure Fixed news, the dittoheads, and Ann Coulter would make it very easy for that person and not dig up all sorts of irrelevant dirt intended to paint her as a liar.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']It's just from doing a lot of googling things like "Palin rape kit" and "Wasilla rape kit".

I get lots of news stories. But I would think, that if anyone ever had to pay money out of pocket for a rape kit, it would be pretty easy to find. There are a number of sources claiming nobody ever did though.

From what I gather it seems like it's just as if you got mugged, and then knee-capped. You'd go to the hospital, they would fix you, but they would still try to get your insurance to cover the cost.

I'm totally open to being wrong. I very well could be. Maybe my google skills are not up to snuff. If some woman ever had to break her mom's piggy bank to pay for a rape kit in Wasilla, especially on Palin's watch, I think that's a real story, and real bad for her. But doesn't seem like it's ever happened.

I really don't have a dog in this race, so if I'm wrong, I'd like to know.[/quote]

That particular article didn't address the quote from the police chief though - I don't see why the police chief would say what he did unless they charged people before or he thought they had charged people before. It also can't cost the place more money to pay for something they're already paying for. I don't really care if Wasilla was or was not the only place doing it.

And also charging a person's health insurance doesn't mean that person wasn't charged. That would depend on their health insurance. And the "if possible" doesn't explain what they did do if it wasn't possible (cover the cost or charge them directly).

Getting an injury treated also isn't the same as getting a rape kit - it's not part of the investigation. Rape kits help find the man who raped the woman. Charging the victim for that (in any capacity) is ridiculous.
 
[quote name='camoor']Oh yeah, because there are probably plenty of women who want to put themselves on the national stage and talk about being a victim of a horrible crime while also having the priveledge of paying for it. I'm sure Fixed news, the dittoheads, and Ann Coulter would make it very easy for that person and not dig up all sorts of irrelevant dirt intended to paint her as a liar.[/QUOTE]

Multiple requests have been made of the Wasilla Police and medical departments to provide lists of how many were billed for rape kits. They don't have any. Except for this:
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Which shows that Wasilla paid for 4 rape kits in 2000-2001.

Now if you want to claim cover-up, fine, but that would be a far far worse implication on Palin and Wasilla than this rape kit myth, if they were actively trying to hide it.

As per my link above:

To clarify: In preparation to attend a hearing and support the bill, one of the state’s top law-enforcement officials found no case of a rape victim ever being charged. And roughly a month after 30 Democratic lawyers, investigators, and opposition researchers, not to mention reporters from every major news agency in the country, landed in Alaska, we still have no instances to consider.
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On top of all this, whether anyone was ever actually charged for a rape kit, is actually not the issue at hand. It's how much Palin knew about the law/policy in the first place that is the issue (which is her claim - that she didn't).

Even if she is lying, and did know about it, you can't prove that any more than it can be proven that someone paid for a rape kit.

It's just more and more clear that this is the Democratic parties answer to Obama's association with Ayres (In importance and implication).
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Multiple requests have been made of the Wasilla Police and medical departments to provide lists of how many were billed for rape kits. They don't have any. Except for this:
2883085325_fc0e94b9da.jpg

Which shows that Wasilla paid for 4 rape kits in 2000-2001.

Now if you want to claim cover-up, fine, but that would be a far far worse implication on Palin and Wasilla than this rape kit myth, if they were actively trying to hide it.
[/quote]

Yeah, I got nothing in terms of evidence.

But she still wants those women to birth those babies. I tell you, a woman who cares that little for a rape victim already demonstrates to me that she lacks moral reasoning skills.

Sorry but the whole thing smells.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Thanks for posting the link.

There isn't a quote of her supporting this out there, but connect the dots. She hired the police chief that proposed this policy. Palin made it official town policy when she signed the town's budget, which contained it. Later, her police chief fought hard against the state law which banned towns from doing this.

If I am to believe that someone who is detail oriented enough to have specific library books she wanted banned, was absolutely unaware of this, she would either have to be the most incompetent public official alive or I would have to be as intellectually bankrupt as Palin herself.

Sarah Palin put pen to paper on a document that made rape victims in her town pay for their own rape kits, and that is a fact. It just isn't proven whether it was knowingly, or out of sheer incompetence.[/quote]


Yeah there's no way she didn't know this rape kit fiasco was going on. The town is like 7,000 people. A town so small and she's going to try and claim she had no idea? Batshit crazy woman.
 
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