Pan's Labrynth

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Let me start of by saying that I really liked this movie and thought it was one of the best that I have seen in a while.

It takes place under the fascist rule in Spain. Okay, I get it, its fascist, but did the movie have to go to the extent that it did?
I mean bashing that guys face in and torture and stuff, I mean come on man, we get it, they're fascist, come on.

Also what was up with the end,
was any of that shit real or was it all just made up? I got the feeling it was all just in her head and the real world was just that nasty. Ehhh, it was a lot darker and more sinister and depressing than I thought it woudl be.

Also why is it in spanish? I dont really like reading subtitles, but this is only a minor gripe and I understand that it was originally done in spanish so whatever.
 
I believe its a Spanish movie, hence it being in Spanish. Look it up on IMDB.

***Spoiler**** Incase you havn't seen it already....


Yes it was all taking place in her head.
 
if you click on go advanced...there is a spoiler option that keeps the spoiler info hidden
it is the last icon with the smilery face doing the shush motion
here you go

as for the movie...i guess i had expected a lot more from it with all the hype that was going on. I thought it was ok at best and a forgetable movie
 
[quote name='EddieT']

***Spoiler**** Incase you havn't seen it already....


Yes it was all taking place in her head.
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You don't know that for a fact. Prove it.
It's called being left open to interpretation.
 
I really liked this one too. It has an excellent commentary track where the director comments on some of your thoughts.

The level of violence caught me off guard as well. Didn't go in expecting it and the most violent scene in the movie
death by wine bottle to the face repeatedly
is the first violent scene as well. Gave me chills and I had to look away from the screen.

I agree with NeoFrank on that point.
 
Well, I saw this with my spanish class at a theatre. It was hilarious with all the violence and all the kids moaning and groaning, since no one expected such a violent movie. It was a good movie though, and I felt the over the top violence aded to the atmosphere, not to mention it made us hate the Captain even more.
 
[quote name='help1']Well, I saw this with my spanish class at a theatre. It was hilarious with all the violence and all the kids moaning and groaning, since no one expected such a violent movie. It was a good movie though, and I felt the over the top violence aded to the atmosphere, not to mention it made us hate the Captain even more.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. And damn that actor was awesome.
 
[quote name='whoknows']If it was all in her head, then
How did her mom get better from that thing under her bed?
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The doctor.

And it's in Spanish because it's from Spain. :p

And about the ending....

It was in her head because the general guy that killed her didn't see what she was talking to. Her life was so bad she dreamed this other palce up.
 
"However, the bit about the mouth cutting made no sense. The director said the blade was too small to kill him, so she just cut him up instead. Why not go for the neck or something?"
I thought that same thing too.
She stabbed him like 4 times, sholder, arm, mouth and back I think. Another 10 times probably could have sealed the deal. Joe Pesci killed somebody with a Pen in GoodFellas. No way that knife was too small. She should have kept going, get him i the neck, eyes, and face. She definitely could have killed him with that knife.
BTW, there is no right answer to the question "was it real?" But it is fun to think about.
 
I think the ending is that there is an after life, and she was the only one who was able to see it, since she was to be the princess of that world. The whole thing was just a test of her personality and morality, right?
 
[quote name='pittpizza']"
However, the bit about the mouth cutting made no sense. The director said the blade was too small to kill him, so she just cut him up instead. Why not go for the neck or something?"

I thought that same thing too. She stabbed him like 4 times, sholder, arm, mouth and back I think. Another 10 times probably could have sealed the deal. Joe Pesci killed somebody with a Pen in GoodFellas. No way that knife was too small. She should have kept going, get him i the neck, eyes, and face. She definitely could have killed him with that knife.

BTW, there is no right answer to the question "was it real?" But it is fun to think about.
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you don't have to copy and paste text, you can just use the quote button at the bottom right of each post. Also when dealing with spoilers use this
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[quote name='The Crotch']And your evidence for this is...?[/quote]

Because the movie showed that....


There is one part at the very end where the gernal comes, right before the girl is killed, to take the baby back. We see the general, we see the girl talking, and she is talking to no one, but she sees that weird thing.
 
Its not clear if her world was "real."

You can point to things, objective occurences that happened clearly outside of the realm of the fairy tale world like her
mother's improved health, the piece of chalk or the healing root.
These things were given to her by the faun, an arguably imaginative creature, yet the material possessions were tacit objects able to be held and used by the Captain (chalk on his desk and the burning of the root). I really dont know.

One positive note that does help to make the ending a little more upbeat is that it appears that
the rebels were beating the fascists.
 
I saw this a while back when it first came out and this was a really good movie. I liked the dark tones and the violence in the movie, it really added to the atmosphere and made you realize what hell Ofelia was going through.
 
OP, take from it what you will. Movies don't always answer everything to the fullest to leave something to your imagination. Learn what you want to learn from it, not what others learned.
 
You got to remember, the General did see the plant underneath the bed. He didn't know what it was because it wasn't of this world. When he burned it it also screamed. Now if he heard that or not is another story, but he was aware that it was something that no ones seen before.
All in all, I liked this movie. I wish they would've dubbed it into english, but the creativity that has been lacking in the American maret is a good refreshment.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']
as for the movie...i guess i had expected a lot more from it with all the hype that was going on. I thought it was ok at best and a forgetable movie[/QUOTE]


I really didn't care for it at all - saying it's "ok" is being generous imo. I watched it with some friends, and none of us cared for it. IMO, it's a movie that was overly violent just for the shock factor, and really didn't go anywhere.

It didn't help that all the trailers make the movie out to be a fantasy movie, when that really isn't the main point of the movie at all.
 
[quote name='pittpizza']
Also why is it in spanish? I dont really like reading subtitles, but this is only a minor gripe and I understand that it was originally done in spanish so whatever.[/QUOTE]
Tard.

Set in Spain.
 
I said I realized that it was originally done in spanish and said it was only a minor gripe. Granted, it seems ethnocentric/nationalist to think that every film should cater to english speakers but I was simply tying to say it would have been nice if it would have been dubbed or redone in english or something.

Overall I dont think that having to read the subtitles took away from the experience very much at all. Plus the best parts were the action adn magic scenes where there wasnt much dialogue. I still really enjoyed the movie and hablando un pequito espanol assistar tambien.
 
loved this movie.

i don't think it matters whether it was in her head or not but to lay down the judgment that she was just imagining everything seems like a pretty easy way of dismissing half the movie...
 
Anyone who liked Pan's Labyrinth really should check out The Devil's Backbone. It's also directed by Del Toro, and I find it a better film.
 
I thought it was excellent. While there was a good amount of violence, it all seemed appropriate to the plot. I felt the same way about The Departed which was also great. The violence helps make the story more effective.
 
I didn't read all the posts so sorry if this has already been mentioned, but you can watch this movie on netflix.com if you're a member. And yes, this is legel.
 
[quote name='Rusty Ghia']Anyone who liked Pan's Labyrinth really should check out The Devil's Backbone. It's also directed by Del Toro, and I find it a better film.[/quote]

The Devils Backbone is a great movie! I agree with Rusty Ghia
 
[quote name='argyle']overly violent just for the shock factor[/QUOTE]
This was probably my biggest problem with the film as well. Certainly, violence in film doesn't bother me but in this case it seemed out of place and frankly a little silly.

As far as the rest of the film was concerned, I enjoyed it but it wasn't overly memorable. I really enjoyed the filmography, acting and story, but it seemed like it was missing something. Overall, it just added up to be less than the sum of its parts for me.
 
I thought it was a great movie. I've grown to enjoy subbed movies since dubbed voices don't always get the emotion right and of course don't match the lips and can hinder the translation.

I didn't like the graphic violence, like most people, but it wasn't constant and it added to the atmosphere and the plot, so I don't think it detracted from the movie. It wasn't violence for violence's sake or just to make people watch the movie.

I'll have to check out the devil's backbone, thanks rusty/xevious.
 
[quote name='Sn0brawler']This was probably my biggest problem with the film as well. Certainly, violence in film doesn't bother me but in this case it seemed out of place and frankly a little silly.
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I don't see how it was out of place. The guy is a paranoid fascist general trying to keep himself from being overthrown, he's not going to treat everyone nicely. The way it contrasts with the fantasy world is pretty important too.
 
I think it was a little over the top. Im not sqeamish at all and typically like violent movies but this was ridiculous. I understand that teh brutality of fascist spain was a catalyst for Ofelia's fairy world but damn! I mean come on, they're fascist, we get it, come on.
 
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