Paris Hilton going to jail- weaseled out, then brought back!! Haha!!

How can the Paris supporters NOT see what's going on here--

1. Rich people always slip through the cracks. it's good to see justice done to someone who's trying to get away with drunk driving.

2. Paris Hilton is the poster girl for an ultra-rich, materialistic, irresponsible, depraved, drugged out, and decadent lifestyle. I think people like her are a good part of what's wrong with the world.

3. She's famous for a good blow job she did on a video that "leaked." It was a great video, but if I knew it would mean another 5 years of this whore's face on everything, I wouldn't have shown any support for it.

4. She shouldn't get to go home to her mansion while all the "unimportant" people rot away in gen pop. Yeah, jail is overcrowded. but there's a distinct lack of rich white people and an overabundance of minorities.
 
[quote name='Moxio']Ahaha. Looks like a few days of jail has given her a new revelation.[/QUOTE]


no kidding, does she think can get in to heaven by giving Jesus good head or something?
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']This is like feeling bad for OJ Simpson or some shit.[/quote]

Yeah, because she decapitated two people in cold blood. Why don't you just compare her to Eva Braun and get it over with.
 
[quote name='camoor']Yeah, because she decapitated two people in cold blood. Why don't you just compare her to Eva Braun and get it over with.[/QUOTE]


she could've killed any number of people drunk driving. hence its illegality.
 
OJ was acquitted of those crimes. Get over it. Paris was convicted and put on probation which she then violated. There's a little bit of a difference.
 
[quote name='Apossum']she could've killed any number of people drunk driving. hence its illegality.[/QUOTE]

But she didn't, so somehow it's ok :roll:

The worst part is she wasn't even supposed to be driving to begin with.
 
[quote name='Apossum']How can the Paris supporters NOT see what's going on here--

1. Rich people always slip through the cracks. it's good to see justice done to someone who's trying to get away with drunk driving.

2. Paris Hilton is the poster girl for an ultra-rich, materialistic, irresponsible, depraved, drugged out, and decadent lifestyle. I think people like her are a good part of what's wrong with the world.

3. She's famous for a good blow job she did on a video that "leaked." It was a great video, but if I knew it would mean another 5 years of this whore's face on everything, I wouldn't have shown any support for it.

4. She shouldn't get to go home to her mansion while all the "unimportant" people rot away in gen pop. Yeah, jail is overcrowded. but there's a distinct lack of rich white people and an overabundance of minorities.[/quote]
Some good points mixed in your post.

But how can you think that what Paris does is of any overall significance whatsoever? (your point #2). She's a party girl and people are pissed that she's having "too much" sex, drugs, and rocknroll without showing any sense of societal responsibility. Aside from drunk driving and making some ppl skittsh, how is her lifestyle really making the world a worse place? Where is this overwhelming degree of outrage when it comes to other sensationalist crap like GTA Hot Coffee, scatalogical discussions, or horror movies - oh but dare not attack the sacred cows of the CAG boards.

Justice would be holding Bush and Cheney up to the same standard when it comes to drunk driving. I would just love to see some people on this board who are as outraged about drunk driving as they are about Paris.

Why do they get a free pass? Could it be that this is more about her lifestyle then the actual crime? Bush was a party boy who drank and coked it up before the days of youtube - I guess it's ok because he found what passes for Jesus in modern USA and you know, boys will be boys!
 
[quote name='Roufuss']But she didn't, so somehow it's ok :roll:[/quote]

I can see you have an excellent grasp of the American legal system.

Did you get your education from CSI:Miami or Legally Blonde?
 
[quote name='camoor']I can see you have an excellent grasp of the American legal system.

Did you get your education from CSI:Miami or Legally Blonde?[/QUOTE]

Yawn.

Good to see you have to resort to personal insults to try and get a point across, though. It really says volumes about your character.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Yawn.

Good to see you have to resort to personal insults to try and get a point across, though. It really says volumes about your character.[/quote]

Lighten up man, just a joke.

Guess I should have added a smiley :lol:
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Yawn.

Good to see you have to resort to personal insults to try and get a point across, though. It really says volumes about your character.[/QUOTE]No, I think he's just trolling. He's been trying to work politics into this from the start.
 
[quote name='camoor']Some good points mixed in your post.

But how can you think that what Paris does is of any overall significance whatsoever? (your point #2). She's a party girl and people are pissed that she's having "too much" sex, drugs, and rocknroll without showing any sense of societal responsibility. Aside from drunk driving and making some ppl skittsh, how is her lifestyle really making the world a worse place? Where is this overwhelming degree of outrage when it comes to other sensationalist crap like GTA Hot Coffee, scatalogical discussions, or horror movies - oh but dare not attack the sacred cows of the CAG boards.

Justice would be holding Bush and Cheney up to the same standard when it comes to drunk driving. I would just love to see some people on this board who are as outraged about drunk driving as they are about Paris.

Why do they get a free pass? Could it be that this is more about her lifestyle then the actual crime? Bush was a party boy who drank and coked it up before the days of youtube - I guess it's ok because he found what passes for Jesus in modern USA and you know, boys will be boys![/QUOTE]

well, it's nice to see you post up some good debate ;)

This is about a judge finally putting his foot down on a celeb case. I wouldn't call people's reactions an "overwhelming" degree of outrage. Holding a celeb accountable is just something very interesting and long over due. If it were any high profile celeb, I would be supportive of the judge.

Believe it or not, her highly publicized life does have an impact on society. First off, 1000s of hours of media coverage have been devoted to her and for what? That time could've been used for better coverage of the Iraq war, world politics etc. I'm not going to get in to the things she symbolizes, since I will sound more conservative than I am. I'll just say that some idiotic rich girl selling her body for popularity is not a good role model for anyone. At the very least, her lifestyle promotes aspirations to the highest order of materialism and apathy.

I feel it's ridiculous that I'm even thinking about it. Part of my elation is that I've had to put up with this empty celebrity (she doesn't do anything) on a daily basis. That sounds more dramatic than it is, but you know what I mean--she gets too much attention, people discuss her antics too much, so it's nice to see a wrench get thrown in her system. I hope it slows down coverage of her life, though they say there's no such thing as bad publicity :roll: My greatest hope is that this somehow influences her to use her celebrity for the cause of good, even if it's just for some shallow awareness of some worldly problem.

If she hadn't gotten convicted, it's showing that when you're filthy rich, it's ok to do what you want. Though this concept is affirmed on a weekly basis in the media, this time it wasn't, which is great. Hopefully this judge will influence other judges.


edit: though I sympathize with your point about Bush and Cheney, I feel throwing presidents in jail would do more harm than good. Hopefully something bad will happen to both of them after they're out of office (or something bad in office that doesn't cause chaos...)
 
[quote name='jmcc']No, I think he's just trolling. He's been trying to work politics into this from the start.[/quote]

Sorry to ruin all the fun.

If the thread had been titled "Paris pile-on", "The Scarlet PH", or "The Latest Bitch Hunt" I could have saved myself some aggravation. Please get back to your inane posts denouncing her for being a worthless slut who deserves jail because she flaunts her violation of social mores.
 
[quote name='camoor']Sorry to ruin all the fun.

If the thread had been titled "Paris pile-on", "The Scarlet PH", or "The Latest Bitch Hunt" I could have saved myself some aggravation. Please get back to your inane posts denouncing her for being a worthless slut who deserves jail because she flaunts her violation of social mores.[/QUOTE]Ok, see you later, then. Maybe come back for the next entertainment story and try to stir something up again by throwing around Scooter Libby or Enron or Bush or whatever's flamebait at the moment.
 
[quote name='Apossum']well, it's nice to see you post up some good debate ;)

This is about a judge finally putting his foot down on a celeb case. I wouldn't call people's reactions an "overwhelming" degree of outrage. Holding a celeb accountable is just something very interesting and long over due. If it were any high profile celeb, I would be supportive of the judge.

Believe it or not, her highly publicized life does have an impact on society. First off, 1000s of hours of media coverage have been devoted to her and for what? That time could've been used for better coverage of the Iraq war, world politics etc. I'm not going to get in to the things she symbolizes, since I will sound more conservative than I am. I'll just say that some idiotic rich girl selling her body for popularity is not a good role model for anyone. At the very least, her lifestyle promotes aspirations to the highest order of materialism and apathy.

I feel it's ridiculous that I'm even thinking about it. Part of my elation is that I've had to put up with this empty celebrity (she doesn't do anything) on a daily basis. That sounds more dramatic than it is, but you know what I mean--she gets too much attention, people discuss her antics too much, so it's nice to see a wrench get thrown in her system. I hope it slows down coverage of her life, though they say there's no such thing as bad publicity :roll: My greatest hope is that this somehow influences her to use her celebrity for the cause of good, even if it's just for some shallow awareness of some worldly problem.

If she hadn't gotten convicted, it's showing that when you're filthy rich, it's ok to do what you want. Though this concept is affirmed on a weekly basis in the media, this time it wasn't, which is great. Hopefully this judge will influence other judges.


edit: though I sympathize with your point about Bush and Cheney, I feel throwing presidents in jail would do more harm than good. Hopefully something bad will happen to both of them after they're out of office (or something bad in office that doesn't cause chaos...)[/quote]

I don't think it's Paris's fault that so much attention is placed upon her.

The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our celebrity stars,
But in ourselves..."

- Julius Caesar, Shakespeare
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I would have thought Martha Stewart had slaked the anger that occasionally overtakes the average American when a woman gets a little too out of her place, but I guess that is asking too much.

As for role models, why is Paris such a bad influence, but anyone here would groan if Jack Thomson came online and started attacking "50 cent's" game, or that fighting game with the rappers?

I don't think it's fair to say that the public having to put up with Paris publicity has anything to do with the virulent nastiness, venom, and cruelty being displayed. She's such an easy target that people think it fine sport to give her the finest kick they can while she is down.

LoL - and I don't advocate putting the prez in jail for DUI - I'm just trying to show how differently society treats a powerful male politician who they perceive as having moral values similar to their own, as opposed to a young spoiled rich girl who flouts her promiscuity and use of alcohol/drugs.

I just don't understand America anymore - I thought the closeted meth-snorting gay evangelical leader would be huge news - but Paris eclipses that easily for something (while illegal, dangerous, and deserving of punishment) that any normal person would have half-expected.
 
I don't think anyone here is happy that Paris is in prison, rather we're ecstatic because someone who clearly thought they were above the law is being punished for breaking it.

You can substitute Paris for any other celebrity (or politician since you keep bringing that up) and most of us would feel the same way.
 
[quote name='yukine']I don't think anyone here is happy that Paris is in prison, rather we're ecstatic because someone who clearly thought they were above the law is being punished for breaking it.

You can substitute Paris for any other celebrity (or politician since you keep bringing that up) and most of us would feel the same way.[/QUOTE]Indeed. I'll be quite pleased if Wesley Snipes gets bankrupted by the IRS for his tax evasion.
 
[quote name='yukine']You can substitute Paris for any other celebrity (or politician since you keep bringing that up) and most of us would feel the same way.[/quote]

That's my point. I don't think so.

Hour for hour, I'd like to see a comparison of Paris Hilton's coverage to the outcome of any other famous case (Enron for example)

In case you can't tell, I was riveted by Enron - now that was an expose of how wealth and power really works (take that Liu Pei guy for example)
 
I think we all want to know that America is still a place where money can buy anything including freedom. We've seen parades of rich (mostly White) people get nothing but probation while poor (mostly Black) people rot away in crappy prisons. It's nice to see that justice really is blind sometimes.
 
I have tried to determine what would make someone a Paris Hilton apologist, and I have come to only a few conclusions.

The first is that your life is just so carefree fucking awesome - sipping margaritas all day in a garden, the sun baking what is left of your ineighbriated mind to a comfortably numb crisp, thereby fully removing you to a place of shelter that could rival living on Pluto, and thus far away from any and all ills of society - that you somehow have the time and energy to expressly devote it to such a hopelessly stupid and desperate cause. Yeah - your life is a pink fluffy cloud filled with nothing but coddling that you can't just help but feel that some altriusm - even if used on the most worthless of cases - is the greatest charity ever.

Another scenario is that you are so in tune with the rhythms of universal human suffering that you were completely hoodwinked by her little (planned) crying fit, that you stretched out your gallant, benevolent arms and cried back against "all those meanies!" that is everyone who is currently not Paris Hilton. Because we're just so mean. This enables you to feel so good about yourself that you suddenly are on a pedestal 23 miles high, looking down upon everyone else, convinced that you're one of the few enlightened persons who can honestly sense the kind, scared soul of poor young Paris.

Another option is that you are a 11 year old little girl.

I'm not actually sure there are other possibilities. It's either your idyllic life of Riley, your true understanding of human emotion, of that you wear a training bra.

Take your pick.
 
[quote name='Strell']I have tried to determine what would make someone a Paris Hilton apologist, and I have come to only a few conclusions.

The first is that your life is just so carefree fucking awesome - sipping margaritas all day in a garden, the sun baking what is left of your ineighbriated mind to a comfortably numb crisp, thereby fully removing you to a place of shelter that could rival living on Pluto, and thus far away from any and all ills of society - that you somehow have the time and energy to expressly devote it to such a hopelessly stupid and desperate cause. Yeah - your life is a pink fluffy cloud filled with nothing but coddling that you can't just help but feel that some altriusm - even if used on the most worthless of cases - is the greatest charity ever.

Another scenario is that you are so in tune with the rhythms of universal human suffering that you were completely hoodwinked by her little (planned) crying fit, that you stretched out your gallant, benevolent arms and cried back against "all those meanies!" that is everyone who is currently not Paris Hilton. Because we're just so mean. This enables you to feel so good about yourself that you suddenly are on a pedestal 23 miles high, looking down upon everyone else, convinced that you're one of the few enlightened persons who can honestly sense the kind, scared soul of poor young Paris.

Another option is that you are a 11 year old little girl.

I'm not actually sure there are other possibilities. It's either your idyllic life of Riley, your true understanding of human emotion, of that you wear a training bra.

Take your pick.[/quote]

STRELL FOR THE MOTHA fuck WIN MAN. Close this bitch up tight. Strell just sucked the gravity out of the fucking building.
 
[quote name='camoor']I don't think it's Paris's fault that so much attention is placed upon her.



I would have thought Martha Stewart had slaked the anger that occasionally overtakes the average American when a woman gets a little too out of her place, but I guess that is asking too much.

As for role models, why is Paris such a bad influence, but anyone here would groan if Jack Thomson came online and started attacking "50 cent's" game, or that fighting game with the rappers?

I don't think it's fair to say that the public having to put up with Paris publicity has anything to do with the virulent nastiness, venom, and cruelty being displayed. She's such an easy target that people think it fine sport to give her the finest kick they can while she is down.

LoL - and I don't advocate putting the prez in jail for DUI - I'm just trying to show how differently society treats a powerful male politician who they perceive as having moral values similar to their own, as opposed to a young spoiled rich girl who flouts her promiscuity and use of alcohol/drugs.

I just don't understand America anymore - I thought the closeted meth-snorting gay evangelical leader would be huge news - but Paris eclipses that easily for something (while illegal, dangerous, and deserving of punishment) that any normal person would have half-expected.[/QUOTE]


ha, you DON'T think she wants publicity? are nucking futs? There's a very clear line in her history as a publicized celeb-- nobody knew who she was, sex tape gets out, then she goes on to get a TV show, release a CD, a clothes line, etc. etc. We can probably look forward to her book at some point. Yes, the media continues to cover her and people continue to watch her and like her, and yes, it's everybody's fault that Mr. Hilton's little accident has achieved this status by sucking cock.

the reaction (which I think is pretty normal--people hate it when celebs get away with stuff and they rejoice when they're convicted) has nothing to do with her being female or an easy target. it has everything to do with her crying because she's being punished for the first time in her life. you can't just isolate her gender as the lone cause of people's reactions...

the Bush argument has nothing to do with this...he's the president, she's just a rich blonde who does nothing but have a pretty face.
 
[quote name='"Strell"']I have tried to determine what would make someone a Paris Hilton apologist, and I have come to only a few conclusions.

The first is that your life is just so carefree fucking awesome - sipping margaritas all day in a garden, the sun baking what is left of your ineighbriated mind to a comfortably numb crisp, thereby fully removing you to a place of shelter that could rival living on Pluto, and thus far away from any and all ills of society - that you somehow have the time and energy to expressly devote it to such a hopelessly stupid and desperate cause. Yeah - your life is a pink fluffy cloud filled with nothing but coddling that you can't just help but feel that some altriusm - even if used on the most worthless of cases - is the greatest charity ever.[/quote]
Strell, how is devoting time to discussing this any different than if we were taking time to discuss Super Smash Bros? Or any different than if we were taking time a year ago to discuss the overreaction of the public to the declaration of the Wii's name? It's a discussion forum. This is a topic of discussion, no more or less important than any of the potential others we could choose to participate in. It's a topic for which anyone could have an opinion, so why not discuss whichever opinion we have opted to take?

Drop the stand-up routine for five minutes (a heavy request, I know) and put this in perspective. It's a discussion that has remained active on multiple sides (though of course you'd lead people to believe there are only two: the right way, and being nothing more than a mindless celebrity coddler regardless of the actual discussion taking place), with there apparently being no conclusive solution to any of the questions brought up...so why wouldn't it continue?

Another scenario is that you are so in tune with the rhythms of universal human suffering that you were completely hoodwinked by her little (planned) crying fit, that you stretched out your gallant, benevolent arms and cried back against "all those meanies!" that is everyone who is currently not Paris Hilton. Because we're just so mean. This enables you to feel so good about yourself that you suddenly are on a pedestal 23 miles high, looking down upon everyone else, convinced that you're one of the few enlightened persons who can honestly sense the kind, scared soul of poor young Paris.
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Again, the routine is hilarious-as-usual, but you're inaccurately exaggerating the entire situation. Nobody here has made a life's cause out of this. We're merely spending portions of our leisure time here to discuss an issue to which we have an opinion. Unfortunately, every post not rooted firmly in the negative in this thread is relegated to being nothing more than some attempt to bolster our egos atop our ability to achieve sympathy for an unlikely recipient. It's ridiculous. The discussion isn't, "OMG they made her cry!" The discussion is more along the lines of, "Wow, so the American public just got a massive hard on watching some chick cry...why?"

There's a person who has received the most news attention among any individual in America during the past week, yet there could be not possibly be sincerity behind any attempts to analyze the public response, or God forbid to take issue with the very extraordinary and unique bloodlust that has taken over the public-at-large? Completely unfair implication. If the only thing you have to contribute is "She is [chosen derogatory term], she deserves being humiliated and torn into," then just say that - but don't willingly inaccurately degrade everyone else's evaluation of the situation to the level of your own.

...and here comes the ultimate punch line, folks...wait for it...

Another option is that you are a 11 year old little girl.
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Hey-o!

So he went the, "Calling 'em a girl" route. Clever, unexpected. Just low-brow enough for the room to hoot and holler to, I guess.
 
[quote name='Oops! I did it again.']
[Blah Blah Blah Blah...]

 So he went the, "Calling 'em a girl" route. Clever, unexpected. Just low-brow enough for the room to hoot and holler to, I guess.[/quote]
Well in your case he was correct (except the 11 year old part.)
 
Again, reason is tossed aside in favor of piling onto a ridiculous exaggeration. It's the M.O. around here.

Having run around in circles long enough to exercise my opinion, I'll just leave the thread at this: this discussion, on my end, has never been about defending her actions versus the legal reactions. There's no apologizing for her parole violation or DUI, and there's no statement of remorse for her being sentenced. This discussion, again on my end, has been entirely different. It's not looking at Paris Hilton the individual. Never has been. It's about looking at the ridiculously unnecessary bloodlust the public has taken towards her, and the sad fact that the same bloodlust would exist for any other harmless individual who carries similar traits...it's about the public's love and desire to use trivial criteria to brand someone as being somehow despicable, and then high five each other as they pile on listing every ridiculous reason for which she deserves such a vile venomous response from a country as a whole (because she's rich and feels no shame in utilizing her wealth to increase her quality of life, because she had sex with her boyfriend on camera, because she's never come across as being all that intelligent, etc...completely ridiculous and common traits, yet the public chooses to piece them together to construct what we should accept as Public Enemy #1). We're talking about a collective reaction of hatred and bad jokes and celebration of tears for a reason having little-if-anything to do with anything more than trivial knocks against her personality and character. That's the point, not "OMG save Paris!"
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']STRELL FOR THE MOTHA fuck WIN MAN. Close this bitch up tight. Strell just sucked the gravity out of the fucking building.[/quote]

LoL - shocker that the poor misunderstood goth kiddie can't wait to jump on the bandwagon.

Wahhhh noone understands me, I'm sooooo tortured and deep! F the beautiful ppl!
 
[quote name='camoor']LoL - shocker that the poor misunderstood goth kiddie can't wait to jump on the bandwagon.

Wahhhh noone understands me, I'm sooooo tortured and deep! F the beautiful ppl![/quote]

What the fuck are you talking about? I am a 6' 1'' Jamaican jock. (not that being goth is a bad thing...I am a firm beliver in doing the style that you like not the one that everyone else think is cool)

By the way your high school generaliztions are showing.

I am agreeing with stell because honestly...who gives a fuck? You guys are devoting 20 pages to the unjustice of a bitch who is going to jail for 45 days after being convicted for breaking the law 3 times then showing up late to her own court date.

All she is bascally doing is sitting in a room by herself.......I think my parents handed down harder punishments than that. So the bitch is grounded for 45 days big deal. She will get her trillion dollar car and house back at the end.

I agree with strell simply because....out of the MILLIONS of current injustices that are going on..you guys are fucking defending the most useless one of all time.

I like stell just cant understand how you can defend this case when cats go to jail for years for little shit. Take the time to read a damn self help book are something.....in fact 4 small paragraphs are about as much as I can give to this subject.

What I dont understand is this, If this was a member of the Bengals you guys would be calling for blood but since its Paris you guys are in a fucking uproar. OOOHHHH NOOOSSSS
 
[quote name='camoor']LoL - shocker that the poor misunderstood goth kiddie can't wait to jump on the bandwagon.

Wahhhh noone understands me, I'm sooooo tortured and deep! F the beautiful ppl![/QUOTE]See trolling. The both of you, but you're just less blabby about it than Oops.
 
[quote name='Oops! I did it again.']Save Paris![/QUOTE]So I shouldn't put your name on the card that's going in this care package of shoe laces and belts?
 
Good reply by Ooops actually.

I just wanted to comment, and maybe it was already discussed, that the famous picture of Paris in the car crying was taken by a Pulitzer Prize-winning photographer who had a very famous picture the Vietnam War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Ut

His best known photo is the Pulitzer Prize -winning picture of Phan Thị Kim Phúc, who was photographed as a naked 9-year-old girl running toward the camera to flee a South Vietnamese napalm attack on the Trang Bang village during the Vietnam War.[1]


Where he is now

Ut is a United States citizen, and is married with two children. He lives in Los Angeles , CA, and remains an AP photographer. His photos of a crying Paris Hilton in the back seat of a Los Angeles County Sheriff's cruiser on June 8, 2007 (precisely 35 years after the Phuc photo) were published worldwide and featured prominently on television after having been disseminated over the Internet.
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Just interesting what he does now. Tabloid photographer.
 
[quote name='jmcc']See trolling. The both of you, but you're just less blabby about it than Oops.[/quote]

Heynow - oops has made some damn fine points.

I'm mainly just joking around since "reason" is a concept lost on neanderthals.
 
[quote name='dallow']Good reply by Ooops actually.

I just wanted to comment, and maybe it was already discussed, that the famous picture of Paris in the car crying was taken by a Pulitzer Prize-winning photographer who had a very famous picture the Vietnam War.



Just interesting what he does now. Tabloid photographer.[/QUOTE]

Where did that say he was a tabloid photographer? Looks like he's still with the Associated Press. Just because he was covering the Paris thing and took those pictures doesn't mean that he is no longer a journalist.
 
[quote name='Oops! I did it again.']Again, reason is tossed aside in favor of piling onto a ridiculous exaggeration. It's the M.O. around here.

Having run around in circles long enough to exercise my opinion, I'll just leave the thread at this: this discussion, on my end, has never been about defending her actions versus the legal reactions. There's no apologizing for her parole violation or DUI, and there's no statement of remorse for her being sentenced. This discussion, again on my end, has been entirely different. It's not looking at Paris Hilton the individual. Never has been. It's about looking at the ridiculously unnecessary bloodlust the public has taken towards her, and the sad fact that the same bloodlust would exist for any other harmless individual who carries similar traits...it's about the public's love and desire to use trivial criteria to brand someone as being somehow despicable, and then high five each other as they pile on listing every ridiculous reason for which she deserves such a vile venomous response from a country as a whole (because she's rich and feels no shame in utilizing her wealth to increase her quality of life, because she had sex with her boyfriend on camera, because she's never come across as being all that intelligent, etc...completely ridiculous and common traits, yet the public chooses to piece them together to construct what we should accept as Public Enemy #1). We're talking about a collective reaction of hatred and bad jokes and celebration of tears for a reason having little-if-anything to do with anything more than trivial knocks against her personality and character. That's the point, not "OMG save Paris!"[/quote]

That is complete and utter bullshit. People like Paris and Britney rape our children's minds everyday simply by existing. The amount of damage that these professional sluts do is incalcuable. You can talk about videogames, tv, movies, music, etc. What matters most is what kids see their heroes DO. Seeing this whore go to jail is wonderful. It shows tens of millions of young people that no matter who you are, you aren't a fairy princess that can do whatever the fuck you want.
 
[quote name='dragonreborn23']That is complete and utter bullshit. People like Paris and Britney rape our children's minds everyday simply by existing. The amount of damage that these professional sluts do is incalcuable. You can talk about videogames, tv, movies, music, etc. What matters most is what kids see their heroes DO. Seeing this whore go to jail is wonderful. It shows tens of millions of young people that no matter who you are, you aren't a fairy princess that can do whatever the fuck you want.[/QUOTE]

:applause: THANK YOU.

I still don't understand how she's anyone famous? I understand the name Hilton is a big big name because of the hotels..but..who is SHE? And why do people idol her???

Even though Britney Spears isn't much better of an idol, at LEAST she got a career from being a pop star. Paris just..goes to parties..and..that's.. it.
 
okay, I think we are officially in versus forum territory now. :lol:


It's about looking at the ridiculously unnecessary bloodlust the public has taken towards her, and the sad fact that the same bloodlust would exist for any other harmless individual who carries similar traits...it's about the public's love and desire to use trivial criteria to brand someone as being somehow despicable, and then high five each other as they pile on listing every ridiculous reason for which she deserves such a vile venomous response from a country as a whole (because she's rich and feels no shame in utilizing her wealth to increase her quality of life, because she had sex with her boyfriend on camera, because she's never come across as being all that intelligent, etc...completely ridiculous and common traits, yet the public chooses to piece them together to construct what we should accept as Public Enemy #1). We're talking about a collective reaction of hatred and bad jokes and celebration of tears for a reason having little-if-anything to do with anything more than trivial knocks against her personality and character.
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first-- HOW THE HELL IS HAVING SEX ON CAMERA A COMMON TRAIT???!! :rofl:

second-- you're just not seeing the big picture. she's a hack-- she had sex with her boyfriend (and gave a nice BJ, I might add) on camera in order to attain her fame. She wasn't anyone until that happened. That technically makes her a porn star and indirectly makes her a whore. Her whole image is based on this foundation and people don't like that because it's fucking disgusting. People are rejoicing at the fact that a celeb has been sentenced to jail for committing a serious crime, but it's extra sweet that it's Paris Hilton because she's trash. yes, she's rich and white, but her whole image and attitude are trash. Her whole "career" is a joke and always has been. most people understand this. She's not a victim and it's not personal-- anyone who is as irresponsible as her would yield the same reaction. For example, say you have a friend who's just fucking crazy and does all kinds of stupid shit and finally they get busted for something-- while you might think it sucks they got caught, you certainly wouldn't feel sorry for them.

I don't understand why you consider her to be respectable.

How about you provide some reasons to back up the case for Paris Hilton instead of refuting all other accusations towards her? 'cause I think we would all like to know what you see in her celebrity that is worth defending.
 
[quote name='strummerbs']Where did that say he was a tabloid photographer? Looks like he's still with the Associated Press. Just because he was covering the Paris thing and took those pictures doesn't mean that he is no longer a journalist.[/quote]

If he keeps following Paris closely enough, he may just get to take some more "Phuc" photos (if you know what I mean).;)

I'll bet the mods are loving this thread...
 
i don't think that pic qualifies as tabloid journalism. he probably got paid a shitload for it.
 
Ok ok, so he's not a pure tabloid journalist.

Just seems odd that a probably respected photographer, who won the Pulizter, covers the Paris story...
 
[quote name='dallow']Ok ok, so he's not a pure tabloid journalist.

Just seems odd that a probably respected photographer, who won the Pulizter, covers the Paris story...[/QUOTE]Photographers go where their bosses tell them.
 
[quote name='dallow']Good reply by Ooops actually.

I just wanted to comment, and maybe it was already discussed, that the famous picture of Paris in the car crying was taken by a Pulitzer Prize-winning photographer who had a very famous picture the Vietnam War.



Just interesting what he does now. Tabloid photographer.[/QUOTE]
I posted this earlier in the thread. Thx.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']I posted this earlier in the thread. Thx.[/quote]

Sweet.

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and maybe it was already discussed
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I just didn't care enough to read pages of this crap.
 
TMZ has learned that Paris Hilton suffers from extreme Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) and claustrophobia, and these conditions may have triggered the Sheriff's decision to spring her from Lynwood Jail last week.
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http://www.tmz.com/2007/06/11/add-is-what-ails-paris/

It's funny how being in jail for 3 days can give you all sorts of shit. She should be allowed to go home and smoke some more crack and sleep with more guys. Poor baby!

Also her dad is ALREADY making arrangements for a gigantic "out of jail" party for her. Stocking up on cocaine and alcohol takes time I guess.
 
[quote name='Oops! I did it again.']Again, reason is tossed aside in favor of piling onto a ridiculous exaggeration. It's the M.O. around here.

Having run around in circles long enough to exercise my opinion, I'll just leave the thread at this: this discussion, on my end, has never been about defending her actions versus the legal reactions. There's no apologizing for her parole violation or DUI, and there's no statement of remorse for her being sentenced. This discussion, again on my end, has been entirely different. It's not looking at Paris Hilton the individual. Never has been. It's about looking at the ridiculously unnecessary bloodlust the public has taken towards her, and the sad fact that the same bloodlust would exist for any other harmless individual who carries similar traits...it's about the public's love and desire to use trivial criteria to brand someone as being somehow despicable, and then high five each other as they pile on listing every ridiculous reason for which she deserves such a vile venomous response from a country as a whole (because she's rich and feels no shame in utilizing her wealth to increase her quality of life, because she had sex with her boyfriend on camera, because she's never come across as being all that intelligent, etc...completely ridiculous and common traits, yet the public chooses to piece them together to construct what we should accept as Public Enemy #1). We're talking about a collective reaction of hatred and bad jokes and celebration of tears for a reason having little-if-anything to do with anything more than trivial knocks against her personality and character. That's the point, not "OMG save Paris!"[/quote]
I have a question for you. Did you even know of Paris Hilton before the sex tape? I doubt it.

Is the media being cruel? Perhaps! But you have to remember that this same "bloodlust" that the media has is the same reason Paris Hilton is even famous right now.

This isn't a big deal, she'll be released say she is "turning a new leaf" and probably write a bestselling book about her whole ordeal. Everyone wins in the end, and things like this tend to go away pretty quickly anyway.
 
I never thought I'd see the day Oops! verbally trounce all over someone.

And camoor's logic is hysterical. The 50 Cent / Jack Thompson stretch is among my favorite highlights.
 
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