Persona 4 - $36.99 on Amazon now! (was $34.99)

[quote name='allen9917']pre-ordered P4. I wonder why atlus does not make it a HD game and release it on PS3, just like disgaea 3. well, at least it's only $35 on PS2.[/QUOTE]

Isolates the market of potential buyers. PS2 owners slaughter PS3 owners in sheer numbers.

I do like projects like Disgaea, but probably not gonna happen often unless Sony's footing the bill.
 
[quote name='allen9917']pre-ordered P4. I wonder why atlus does not make it a HD game and release it on PS3, just like disgaea 3. well, at least it's only $35 on PS2.[/quote]
PS2 owners outnumber PS3 owners like nobody's business.
 
I'm just waiting for Amazon.com to make this one of their special video game countdown daily deals and lower the price to $20, conveniently the day after our pre-orders ship. They've been doing that constantly lately. It would be fine if they'd match the price, like they used to. Now as long as your order has shipped, your only recourse is to return it for a refund and re-purchase.
 
I'm planning to play P4 on my PS3 to take advantage of upscaling and ample amount of memory space.

Sure I still have my PS2 and it's still hooked up but I'm too used to playing games in wide screen on my HD TV so that's just how it'll be.

Would be really nice if the game support widescreen/progressive mode like some PS2 games does but I'm not holding my breath.

Still, the game I'm looking forward to the most in December by far. Can't wait.
 
[quote name='Slade']Would be really nice if the game support widescreen/progressive mode like some PS2 games does but I'm not holding my breath.[/quote]

Bleh, I only use widescreen with PS2 games if it was made that way. Really can't stand how stretched out menus in FF 12, God of War 2 & the like, look in widescreen. Though the upscaling is really nice.

Good ol' 4:3 for Persona 4, on my PS2.
 
Amazon's Gold Box has a deal on Persona 4.
Not too huge but it's something.

Amazon Price: $35
Gold Box Price: $33.24

Just pre-ordered one because of this small deal.
 
[quote name='thepik241']Amazon's Gold Box has a deal on Persona 4.
Not too huge but it's something.

Amazon Price: $35
Gold Box Price: $33.24

Just pre-ordered one because of this small deal.[/quote]

Sucks, I just got 2 useless movies & Luminous Arc 2 (which only $35+ & something I have no interest in either) :(
 
but it is a good idea to play P3 first as P4's gameplay improved from P3, so it would be less enjoyable if you play P4 first.
 
[quote name='UberNinjaz']PS2 owners outnumber PS3 owners like nobody's business.[/quote]

Not to mention that a percentage of the PS3's on the market actually have backward compatibility, so there's even more PS2 audience to cater to.
 
Tempted to pick up this book. Wonder if they will be limited supply or if 3 months from now we are going to see the book selling for $20.
 
[quote name='UberNinjaz']Bleh, I only use widescreen with PS2 games if it was made that way. Really can't stand how stretched out menus in FF 12, God of War 2 & the like, look in widescreen. Though the upscaling is really nice.

Good ol' 4:3 for Persona 4, on my PS2.[/quote]

How does this upscaling work? My PS3 won't do it, gimped as it is. I agree, though, that games stretched to widescreen usually look pretty icky. You're not getting anymore image, just stretching the image out to fill the space, so what's the point? I do wish they would have done widescreen output, but P4 is a Japanese game, and the install base for HDTVs in Japan is lower than the US; that's another reason it's a PS2 game. Even P5 might be PS2, but we'll see. I don't frankly care. It could release on my toaster for all it matters to me. (Dragon Quest IX, on the other hand... I'm still butthurt that's a DS title. 3D on DS is such a step back compared to the gorgeous DQ VIII on PS2.)
 
[quote name='Jesse_Dylan']How does this upscaling work? My PS3 won't do it, gimped as it is. I agree, though, that games stretched to widescreen usually look pretty icky. You're not getting anymore image, just stretching the image out to fill the space, so what's the point? I do wish they would have done widescreen output, but P4 is a Japanese game, and the install base for HDTVs in Japan is lower than the US; that's another reason it's a PS2 game. Even P5 might be PS2, but we'll see. I don't frankly care. It could release on my toaster for all it matters to me. (Dragon Quest IX, on the other hand... I'm still butthurt that's a DS title. 3D on DS is such a step back compared to the gorgeous DQ VIII on PS2.)[/QUOTE]

I said it in the other topic and I will say it here. I think that Sony or MS should buy Atlus. They make alot of great games very efficiently and have a huge Japanese following. A small investment in Atlus could have huge returns, especially for MS who is struggling with the Japanese market but slowly making ground. Buying up Atlus and announcing Persona 5 made by the same group of people as previous games with the same great bonuses = huge Japanese sales for MS and a slow move in the US.
 
I'm almost afraid to keep my pre-order on this one... Atlus titles have been plummeting in price lately, and I can't help but wonder whether P4 will be subjected to the same fate.
 
[quote name='wampa8jedi']I'm almost afraid to keep my pre-order on this one... Atlus titles have been plummeting in price lately, and I can't help but wonder whether P4 will be subjected to the same fate.[/QUOTE]

I understand and that's why I haven't bitten on a lot of stuff like Eternal Poison or EO and sure enough I have been right. However I look at it this way. A lot of the other stuff are pretty average titles where Persona 4 is a very high quality title and it comes with an art book, outer casing and a sound track for $35. I feel ENTITLED to support Atlus with a purchase of this game. Where the other stuff is average stuff without a ton of extras this game is practically a gift to fans at $35(hell it would be even without the extra stuff). A second way of looking at it is that if this game drops in price the worst that happens is it drops to $20 without all the extras. On the flip side it could shoot up to $50 without all the stuff and like $75-$100 with all the stuff. From a financial stand point unlike other atlus games I see this as more of a risk not to buy.
 
I think it's extremely likely that P4 will drop to $25 or less within weeks, just like most recent Atlus games (whether as a one-off DOTD opportunity or a permanent drop). The risk, as I see it, is the artbook. It could continue to be easily available with the game, or it could be in high demand and go for $30+ by itself on eBay, there's just no telling. That's the main reason I'm keeping my preorder, I really want the artbook and I don't want to deal with the possible hassle of tracking it down later. That and I used a Bill Me Later promo on the order and got a few extra bucks off anyway.

But I think the chances of the game itself ever becoming rare are slim to none. At this point Atlus recognizes that the Persona series is their biggest success and calling card. It would be like Square allowing Final Fantasy X or Kingdom Hearts to become out of print and rare. Not going to happen.
 
I'm sure P4 will be $30 in a week or two based on Amazon pricing strategies lately (lower than that is unlikely unless it sells horribly in relation to P3), but I figure $33.24 is close enough.
 
Maybe it'll go to $30, but I doubt lower. Persona is a WAY more popular brand name than the other Atlus games that've been released lately and have subsquently dropped like a rock.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Maybe it'll go to $30, but I doubt lower. Persona is a WAY more popular brand name than the other Atlus games that've been released lately and have subsquently dropped like a rock.[/QUOTE]

Like I said too, we really should support Atlus on the Persona series. I want Atlus to succeed and continue to do what they do. I also want them to keep looking at the PS2 as a viable candidate for titles. Thus this is one of the only games I am buying at day one this year.
 
I don't think it'd be any permanent price drop. Actually, it's just as likely they'll axe the small discount they have on it now; I'll just be annoyed if it's a deal of the day for $20, which I think is also likely. I'll stick with my $35 order. It's an important game to me. I'll be less annoyed than usual if it goes on deal of the day or something.
 
I never got got an email of a price update, not sure if you do get one. But I just checked the order status from the site and my order is now $29.99 instead of $31.99, so yay :D.
 
[quote name='IronMonkey008']I never got got an email of a price update, not sure if you do get one. But I just checked the order status from the site and my order is now $29.99 instead of $31.99, so yay :D.[/quote]
Assuming that there's some kind of $5 coupon factored in there? The most recent price drop was from $36.99 to $34.99.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']I said it in the other topic and I will say it here. I think that Sony or MS should buy Atlus. They make alot of great games very efficiently and have a huge Japanese following. A small investment in Atlus could have huge returns, especially for MS who is struggling with the Japanese market but slowly making ground. Buying up Atlus and announcing Persona 5 made by the same group of people as previous games with the same great bonuses = huge Japanese sales for MS and a slow move in the US.[/quote]

Sounds nice, but Atlus isn't a "small investment". They're an enormous company, in Japan at least. I'm sure they enjoy their position as a multiplatform developer.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Assuming that there's some kind of $5 coupon factored in there? The most recent price drop was from $36.99 to $34.99.[/quote]

lol yea I used that $5 Amazon coupon from Atlus.
 
[quote name='IronMonkey008']lol yea I used that $5 Amazon coupon from Atlus.[/quote]

...what coupon? Care to let us in, or is it something they made up special for you?
 
here's my 2 cents...the Atlus we know isn't necessarily the same in Japan...by that I mean there are a ton more JPRG makers in Japan than the number of exclusive JRPG publisher in US...the Japanese are still buying those games made by Square Enix and other big name studios rather than paying big bucks for those, relatively speaking, niche games. For the MS guys, we know they've had a good deal of games made by big names/decent studios that generated lack luster sales-case in point, infinite undiscovery, lost odyssey-so buying Atlus and taking them in as a subsidiary won't generate that level of sales, furthermore, it's a different realm in managing a game publishing studio...
 
[quote name='Jesse_Dylan']...what coupon? Care to let us in, or is it something they made up special for you?[/QUOTE]

It's an old, limited offering coupon that was offered at least six months ago, if I recall correctly.
 
[quote name='IronMonkey008']lol yea I used that $5 Amazon coupon from Atlus.[/quote]As others have asked, what coupon?

[quote name='Jesse_Dylan']...what coupon? Care to let us in, or is it something they made up special for you?[/quote]Hopefully, it'll be a non-unique coupon.
 
[quote name='Jesse_Dylan']...what coupon? Care to let us in, or is it something they made up special for you?[/quote]

Was given out to the Atlus faithful (people who signed up for newsletters) when Atlus closed their online store and announced they would be using Amazon as their main seller. It was a $5 promotional coupon code toward your next Amazon purchase.
 
Regardless, the atlus we know has reprinted some of its titles despite the current state of the economy. Given they "seem" to have the cash flow, I would expect them to continue to print as many P4's as they can sell. IOW, I doubt this would be an item to invest on.

End result, it's aggressively priced given the number of hours of gameplay. Don't think about where it's price will go, just buy if it's worth it. I would myself, but I've yet to get to P3. By the time I get to P4, it will either be OOP or less than $20. With my backlog I'll gladly gamble.
 
[quote name='Jesse_Dylan']Sounds nice, but Atlus isn't a "small investment". They're an enormous company, in Japan at least. I'm sure they enjoy their position as a multiplatform developer.[/QUOTE]


MS and Sony cant compete with Nintendo first party and third party they are drawing even with each other. So at this point the question is do they want to start building development houses of their own which is also a major investment as would it be to try and create successful IP. Or do they buy out another company and if so who? I am looking at things through the perspective of compared to other companies and compared to bleeding money to buy exclusives the way they have been or building a new development studio purchasing atlus seems smart. They could always REALLY spend money and buy out someone like Capcom, but when you look at how much it would cost them to do something like that vs buying a small company like Atlus which would nab some hype and a company that obviously runs a tight ship. Seems a no brainer.
 
Persona 3 FES for $20 last weekend says this will not be rare.

The whole "atlus games are rare" thing stopped a long time ago. Stop buying games based on the idea that they won't be in stock.

Persona 4 does look slick, though. I'll get it cheaper, later. I don't want a CD of the awful music or an artbook i'll look at once for full price.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']MS and Sony cant compete with Nintendo first party and third party they are drawing even with each other. So at this point the question is do they want to start building development houses of their own which is also a major investment as would it be to try and create successful IP. Or do they buy out another company and if so who? I am looking at things through the perspective of compared to other companies and compared to bleeding money to buy exclusives the way they have been or building a new development studio purchasing atlus seems smart. They could always REALLY spend money and buy out someone like Capcom, but when you look at how much it would cost them to do something like that vs buying a small company like Atlus which would nab some hype and a company that obviously runs a tight ship. Seems a no brainer.[/QUOTE]

Atlus of Japan actually made very few games. Aside from SMT, Trauma Center, Growlanser, and Etrain Odyssey, Atlus of Japan doesnt make any of the games Atlus USA published. Most of Atlus USA games are from Japanese developer that lack a US publisher. So buying Altus would do very little for Sony in US or Japan. Plus Sony recently hired one of the head guy at Atlus and have him make work on games like Monster Kingdom. So they are going to be getting quality games and new IP without buying a whole company.
 
pre ordered a couple of days ago
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cant wait to get it.
 
[quote name='62t']Atlus of Japan actually made very few games. Aside from SMT, Trauma Center, Growlanser, and Etrain Odyssey, Atlus of Japan doesnt make any of the games Atlus USA published. Most of Atlus USA games are from Japanese developer that lack a US publisher. So buying Altus would do very little for Sony in US or Japan. Plus Sony recently hired one of the head guy at Atlus and have him make work on games like Monster Kingdom. So they are going to be getting quality games and new IP without buying a whole company.[/QUOTE]

Thats all the more reason to approach them about a buy out. It means they own the rights to several very profitable franchises without actually having huge business offices and development teams. The SMT and Atlus names would be the main thing, stuff like Growlanser is just icing on the cake. SMT and Atlus are names that hold some weight in Japan and it would again ensure the Japanese that the 360 is not just a western console.
 
[quote name='IronMonkey008']Was given out to the Atlus faithful (people who signed up for newsletters) when Atlus closed their online store and announced they would be using Amazon as their main seller. It was a $5 promotional coupon code toward your next Amazon purchase.[/quote]Oh yeah, that one.

I used it on my P3 FES pre-order, so that explains why I don't remember seeing it when P4 was announced.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Thats all the more reason to approach them about a buy out. It means they own the rights to several very profitable franchises without actually having huge business offices and development teams. The SMT and Atlus names would be the main thing, stuff like Growlanser is just icing on the cake. SMT and Atlus are names that hold some weight in Japan and it would again ensure the Japanese that the 360 is not just a western console.[/QUOTE]

Growlanser series has always been The SMT series has been on Sony system since Soul Hacker, and so far there is no indication that Atlus will developer for Xbox 360. Again it make no sense when Sony hired Kouji Okada, co founder of Atlus and the creator of SMT series who worked on every single SMT before Digital Devil Saga. I would take the creator instead of getting IP.

Atlus Japan is huge not just because of video games, they also made things like UFO catcher and sticker machine. Not sure if Sony wants to get into a new field just for a few exclusive games.

The only thing Sony would really get from a huge investment is for the SMT series, which has been on sony system aside from the upcoming game on DS.
 
Will there be a FES-style re-release of this game in time? I've already pre-ordered, but I'm thinking maybe I'll hold off if a better version will come out down the road. I'm patient like that.
 
[quote name='SDC']Will there be a FES-style re-release of this game in time? I've already pre-ordered, but I'm thinking maybe I'll hold off if a better version will come out down the road. I'm patient like that.[/QUOTE]

If you are not ordering for the extras (artbook and CD) I would say wait.
 
[quote name='SDC']Will there be a FES-style re-release of this game in time? I've already pre-ordered, but I'm thinking maybe I'll hold off if a better version will come out down the road. I'm patient like that.[/quote]
Atlus has stated that there will not be a "FES" version of Persona 4.

But if your definition of better includes "the same game for a cheaper price," and you're not super interested in the artbook, then by all means hold off for now. It's liable to drop in price pretty quickly if other Atlus games are instructive.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Atlus has stated that there will not be a "FES" version of Persona 4.[/quote]

^This. Atlus realized that its fans were gun shy after being shafted last time.
 
I am seriously wondering how many of you waiting for price drops are going to get bit on the ass. Especially those of you that think you will still get the art book and CD.
 
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