PlayStation 4 - General Discussion Thread

Insomniac is still working with Sony. They are making a new Ratchet and Clank game for the PS4, along with a movie produced by Sony Pictures too.

 
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Here is my report from PSX. Bloodbourne plays very well. Morphius is pretty good but I got forced into the meh Street luge demo. Tons of great indy games. GalaxZ is fun. I'm gonna check out the order later today.
 
i was not even talking about that wa just saying both companys lost console only game devs for not allowing them to make anything other then one franchise once again you guys try to twist my words

 
TimboSliceGB said:
i was not even talking about that wa just saying both companys lost console only game devs for not allowing them to make anything other then one franchise once again you guys try to twist my words
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No we didn't. You said they both lost studios. Now you are saying "console only game devs" lol

You can just make it easier and admit you were wrong instead of doing this act again.

And insomniac made 3 different series for sony lol. Microsoft only let bungie do halo.
 
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TimboSliceGB said:
i was not even talking about that wa just saying both companys lost console only game devs for not allowing them to make anything other then one franchise once again you guys try to twist my words
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we arent twisting your words. youre just a fucking moron.

you cant lose a studio you dont own. insomniac has always been independent.

 
Timbo, Keep reaching there. You might catch a clue. Bungie left MS to make Destiny when MS wanted to keep punching out Halo games. ms destroyed Rare. sony just didn't pay up for another Ratchet game at the time they wanted to develop something and Microsoft did. In both instances it was MS throwing money around.
 
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TimboSliceGB said:
i was not even talking about that wa just saying both companys lost console only game devs for not allowing them to make anything other then one franchise once again you guys try to twist my words
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It isnt twisting your words, its just correcting a flawed comparison. Insomniac had free reign to create whatever they wanted, but stuck with Sony for whatever reason. They even developed for different franchises.

Bungie had no say in the matter. Thats why they were so eager to get away from Microsoft because they wanted to do more than just Halo.

Two completely different scenarios, and even less accurate since Insomniac is working on a PS exclusive. They just released a PS exclusive last year too.
 
Syranth said:
Timbo, Keep reaching there. You might catch a clue. Bungie left MS to make Destiny when MS wanted to keep punching out Halo games. ms destroyed Rare. sony just didn't pay up for another Ratchet game at the time they wanted to develop something and Microsoft did. In both instances it was MS throwing money around.
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insomniac said in past sunset over drive was type of game they wanted to make for yearsand you calling me a idiot?

 
4thHorseman said:
It isnt twisting your words, its just correcting a flawed comparison. Insomniac had free reign to create whatever they wanted, but stuck with Sony for whatever reason. They even developed for different franchises.

Bungie had no say in the matter. Thats why they were so eager to get away from Microsoft because they wanted to do more than just Halo.

Two completely different scenarios, and even less accurate since Insomniac is working on a PS exclusive. They just released a PS exclusive last year too.
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yes because you work for insomniac and know they they had free reign to make what ever they wanted

 
TimboSliceGB said:
insomniac said in past sunset over drive was type of game they wanted to make for yearsand you calling me a idiot?
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But that wasnt because Sony wouldnt let them, it was because Sony tried being greedy and wanted the IP if they were to publish it. Insomniac wanted to keep it, so they went elsewhere.
 
Timbo one thing you dont seem to understand.

Sony never owned any part of insomniac.

Do you understand stand that now?

Oh and Microsoft actually OWNED bungie. When they left to be on the own part of the agreement was mircosoft would keep ownership of halo.

Its like gears of war. Epic owned the ip and just recently mircosoft bought it from them when epic decided they want to focus on their game engine.
 
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TimboSliceGB said:
yes because you work for insomniac and know they they had free reign to make what ever they wanted
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Its not something you need inside information on. They are still releasing exclusives with Sony, but also made games like Fuse (multi) and Sunset (X1).

What power does Sony have on a company they dont own? None. Otherwise that relationship is ruined and they get only multis or nothing at all.

There may be a business reason why they stuck with Sony (better funds by developing larger IPs maybe?), but thats for Sony and Insomniac to know. Either way, the only reasons that PS exclusives came is because either Sony asked Insomniac or vice versa (probably the former).
 
[quote name="TimboSliceGB" post="12306882" timestamp="1417917898"]insomniac said in past sunset over drive was type of game they wanted to make for yearsand you calling me a idiot?[/quote]

Timbo RAGE ACTIVATE!
 
Deader2818 said:
Timbo one thing you dont seem to understand.

Sony never owned any part of insomniac.

Do you understand stand that now?

Oh and Microsoft actually OWNED bungie. When they left to be on the own part of the agreement was mircosoft would keep ownership of halo.

Its like gears of war. Epic owned the ip and just recently mircosoft bought it from them when epic decided they want to focus on their game engine.
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I KNOW THEY NEVER OWNED INSOMNIAC I NEVER SAID THEY DID

 
Sony owns the ratchet and clank ip and had a third party develop it. Its like when Nintendo had rare make dkc. Nintendo owned the ip. Rare didnt take it with them to mircosoft.
 
TimboSliceGB said:
hmmm sounds like bungie

im done with this convo
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I would hope so, because I fail to understand the misunderstanding in any of this.

Bungie wanted to develop Destiny. Microsoft only wanted Halo. Bungie had to wait for their contract with Microsoft to be up before they could go out and do it.

Insomniac wanted to make a game like Sunset Overdrive. Sony would let them make game, but they would keep IP. Insomniac went elsewhere because they wanted the IP too, and could do it since they werent owned by Sony.

The only similarities are two companies who had a long history with a company (but very different relationships with said company) and ended up going elsewhere. But whereas Insomniac went on their own free will and on their own time, Bungie had to wait for those contract chains to unshackle from their ankles before they could do it.
 
Great show. It was a bit long but I don't quite understand the internet comments from some (not particularly from cag) about how UC4 didn't look that great. Being at the event myself, the gameplay looked impressive to me as well as the rest of the crowd. My guess is maybe the stream was suffering but I liked what I saw.
 
Donut2922 said:
Great show. It was a bit long but I don't quite understand the internet comments from some (not particularly from cag) about how UC4 didn't look that great. Being at the event myself, the gameplay looked impressive to me as well as the rest of the crowd. My guess is maybe the stream was suffering but I liked what I saw.
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considering its most likely a pre alpha build, i thought it looked pretty damn good. drake could use a little bit more, but thats obviously going to come when its released q4 of 2015

 
Donut2922 said:
Great show. It was a bit long but I don't quite understand the internet comments from some (not particularly from cag) about how UC4 didn't look that great. Being at the event myself, the gameplay looked impressive to me as well as the rest of the crowd. My guess is maybe the stream was suffering but I liked what I saw.
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I think it was the twitch quality that was making UC4 look off. I noticed that it got muddy and stutter during the trailer.
 
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4thHorseman said:
Bungie was owned by Microsoft. Insomniac was never owned by Sony.

Not a God of War fan, but if they got rid of Kratos and changed mythologies (or how about the general setting?), i might be down to play one.

Hell, just make it Asuras Wrath 2, but make the gameplay parts actually good. I would love a super over the top GoW.
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4thHorseman said:
Bungie was owned by Microsoft. Insomniac was never owned by Sony.

Not a God of War fan, but if they got rid of Kratos and changed mythologies (or how about the general setting?), i might be down to play one.

Hell, just make it Asuras Wrath 2, but make the gameplay parts actually good. I would love a super over the top GoW.
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capcom owns it

 
Donut2922 said:
Great show. It was a bit long but I don't quite understand the internet comments from some (not particularly from cag) about how UC4 didn't look that great. Being at the event myself, the gameplay looked impressive to me as well as the rest of the crowd. My guess is maybe the stream was suffering but I liked what I saw.
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I recommended that everyone download the direct feed from gamersyde. It looks amazing and and will only get better being that this is an early build. Dat foliage... :drool: Now I wait for the MP reveal. BTW did you get a ps4 or what? I heard you needed a wristband that were only given out to random attendees.

asspickle said:
Im excited to see the UC4 and TR comparisons in the coming months. I wonder how they will stack up against each other.
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Tomb Raider is cross gen title so UC will no doubt outclass it in terms of visuals.

 
[quote name="Deader2818" post="12306959" timestamp="1417919118"]And insomniac is still makes games for sony[/quote]
Do we know if MS holds the license to sunset?
 
Syranth said:
Do we know if MS holds the license to sunset?
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Insomniac owns the brand, MS just published the game. Depending on the wording in the publishment agreement, you could see sunset on another console besides Xbox One.

Now to note, Nintendo helped fund Bayonetta 2 which is why it will likely not come to other consoles. Sony is actually helping develop Street Fighter V which is why you likely will not see it on Xbox One.

 
8bitArtist said:
considering its most likely a pre alpha build, i thought it looked pretty damn good. drake could use a little bit more, but thats obviously going to come when its released q4 of 2015
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blueweltall said:
I think it was the twitch quality that was making UC4 look off. I noticed that it got muddy and stutter during the trailer.
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Pliskin said:
I recommended that everyone download the direct feed from gamersyde. It looks amazing and and will only get better being that this is an early build. Dat foliage... :drool: Now I wait for the MP reveal. BTW did you get a ps4 or what? I heard you needed a wristband that were only given out to random attendees.

Tomb Raider is cross gen title so UC will no doubt outclass it in terms of visuals.
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then my problem is that people are making their assessment without giving a proper look at the current build. I saw it with my own two eyes and it looked great so they don't know wtf they are talking about then.

I didn't get a wristband unfortunately. They gave out 100. I got there at 8:45 and the 5,000 seated.hallway was already half full. So I must have been number 2,500 lol. The Sony guy I talked to said the first person in line that got it was there at 3:30am :cold:
 
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Some UC4 screen grabs.

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Mako1215 said:
I thought I heard mention of at least 2 or 3 more. Maybe I'm going crazy.
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I couldn't find anything else, if I do I'll post them here.

 
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So did anybody get the PS4 anniversary edition? I tried for a couple hours but came away empty handed. Im upset since this was a one of a kind item and there's no way in heck I'm paying eBay prices.

Pliskin said:
Tomb Raider is cross gen title so UC will no doubt outclass it in terms of visuals.
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Thats a good point but we could have a situation like FH2 where the X1 versions was significantly better. There's also a chance that MS might lock that game up altogether like they did with TF.

 
Donut2922 said:
then my problem is that people are making their assessment without giving a proper look at the current build. I saw it with my own two eyes and it looked great so they don't know wtf they are talking about then.

I didn't get a wristband unfortunately. They gave out 100. I got there at 8:45 and the 5,000 seated.hallway was already half full. So I must have been number 2,500 lol. The Sony guy I talked to said the first person in line that got it was there at 3:30am :cold:
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i think youre missing the obvious, which is most people saying it looks like crap are trolls/xbox fanboys.

 
asspickle said:
So did anybody get the PS4 anniversary edition? I tried for a couple hours but came away empty handed. Im upset since this was a one of a kind item and there's no way in heck I'm paying eBay prices.

Thats a good point but we could have a situation like FH2 where the X1 versions was significantly better. There's also a chance that MS might lock that game up altogether like they did with TF.
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I had that shit in my cart but could not check out for the life of me, pretty disappointed but I'll get over it.

As for MS buying full TR exclusivity, anything is possible with them. They did buy Minecraft for 2.5 fucking billion. :lol:

 
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