Police Station Intimidation

This is like being surprised that Police Officers intimidate and badmouth speeders when they pull them over. I was pulled over once, and an officer seemed particularly disgusted that I had never gotten a ticket before. In other words, I'm not surprised.
 
[quote name='kakomu']This is like being surprised that Police Officers intimidate and badmouth speeders when they pull them over. I was pulled over once, and an officer seemed particularly disgusted that I had never gotten a ticket before. In other words, I'm not surprised.[/QUOTE]

Most cops are like that. It's easy to throw your ego around when you have the power of the law and a gun on your belt. Inferiority, lack of accomplishment, and low self worth are the most likely culprits.
 
"Let's all try to make as much money as we can so that we can afford to buy a house in a nice neighborhood, where everyone can afford to pay enough local taxes to support a nice police department with courteous officers who won't :censored: with you like this. Then, we can believe that incidents like this are largely limited to poor areas where the local citizenry are disrespectful & unappreciative of the underpaid, half-a-step-above-thugs they have in uniform, anyhow."

...if that way of thinking seems familiar, check out the police department where this all took place. Not exactly in the slums. You might think that an uproar would ensue if this happened in a "nice, respectable area," but let's see what the fallout is (if any) from this report.

[edit: It's a shame that our nation's capital should harbor so much poverty. Driving through Washington D.C. is a bizarre trip across filthy slums in close proximity to glitzy shopping strips.

Mind you, I am not implying that police chiefs (in affluent or dilapidated precincts) have an easy job of monitoring their officers. I would not have expected that Miami police chief to pledge that "any offending officers will be sacked" without having first gotten the full story behind the incident, and I'm sure they receive complaints all the time from citizenry against their officers and vice versa (well, maybe not in Florida, where evidentally they don't provide a channel for complaints from the public) which are a headache to resolve.]
 
[quote name='RBM']"Let's all try to make as much money as we can so that we can afford to buy a house in a nice neighborhood, where everyone can afford to pay enough local taxes to support a nice police department with courteous officers who won't :censored: with you like this. Then, we can believe that incidents like this are largely limited to poor areas where the local citizenry are disrespectful & unappreciative of the underpaid, half-a-step-above-thugs they have in uniform, anyhow."

...if that way of thinking seems familiar, check out the police department where this all took place. Not exactly in the slums. You might think that an uproar would ensue if this happened in a "nice, respectable area," but let's see what the fallout is (if any) from this report.[/quote]

If this happened in DC, the police chief would brush it off as his officer's discretion. Our chief is the guy who defends his officers when they arrest 40+ single mothers for having one glass of wine and then getting behind the wheel. At least this Florida chief seems to take it seriously - you don't have a chance of being treated fairly if you are targeted by the police in DC.
 
[quote name='kakomu']This is like being surprised that Police Officers intimidate and badmouth speeders when they pull them over. I was pulled over once, and an officer seemed particularly disgusted that I had never gotten a ticket before. In other words, I'm not surprised.[/QUOTE]

For the most part, traffic cops are just fundraisers for the police department anyway. They don't give a shit about safety, they just need to write their quota of tickets.

And don't forget, with traffic laws, you're guilty until proven innocent. If you go to court to contest the ticket and there are two witnesses, you and the cop, who is the judge always going to believe? The system for traffic offenses is a joke.
 
Well, it's bad but not quite as bad as they make it out to be. Obviously there are serious issues, but others looked like problems with the way the department is run instead of problems with the cops. Some of them seemed fine, they just couldn't provide a form because their department didn't have one.

[quote name='elprincipe']For the most part, traffic cops are just fundraisers for the police department anyway. They don't give a shit about safety, they just need to write their quota of tickets.

And don't forget, with traffic laws, you're guilty until proven innocent. If you go to court to contest the ticket and there are two witnesses, you and the cop, who is the judge always going to believe? The system for traffic offenses is a joke.[/quote]

In some places the cops usually don't show up, which results in you automatically winning. Unfortunately I only seem to get traffic tickets in places I don't live (ie. upstate new york), or in places where I'm not going to be for another 5 months or so and can't contest it. Though once I got a parking ticket for being in a place I never was (and one that technically didn't exist), 4 days after it supposedly took place, and 3 hours earlier than I got it. Luckily I went down to the office and they cancelled it when I complained.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']In some places the cops usually don't show up, which results in you automatically winning. Unfortunately I only seem to get traffic tickets in places I don't live (ie. upstate new york), or in places where I'm not going to be for another 5 months or so and can't contest it. Though once I got a parking ticket for being in a place I never was (and one that technically didn't exist), 4 days after it supposedly took place, and 3 hours earlier than I got it. Luckily I went down to the office and they cancelled it when I complained.[/QUOTE]

Well, that's one win. I've gotten convicted of illegally turning left from the left turn lane before. I guess I needed to stop passing cars and subpoena the drivers as witnesses to have a chance :roll:
 
Who polices the police? The court and judges.

That's the reason we have protections such as Miranda. Unfortunately in a series of 2 Supreme Court (United States v. Patane, Missouri v. Seibert) cases in 2004, in addition to the 1984 case of New York v. Quarles, Miranda has been almost destroyed to the point that it is now a mere formality. I'd suggest that anyone with a little free time read the opinions in these cases. Everyone is worried about Roe v. Wade right now, I'm far more worried what the "new" Supreme Court will do to criminal procedure.
 
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