President Obama's Weekly Youtube Addrss: Promotes Stimulus, Government Accountability

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President Obama has been doing weekly Youtube addresses for several weeks now. As these were created for civil discourse and honest discussion, I thought it would be worthwhile to talk about the merits and drawbacks of the video's weekly topic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDfpd8GV9dI

In his first Presidential YouTube Address as the sitting chief executive, Barack Obama promote his stimulus plan, announcing that citizens will be able to hold the government accountable by monitoring the spending at a new Web site called Recovery.gov:

One key quote that should hopefully allay some people's concerns regarding the transparency of how the money will be used

[quote name='President Obama']"I know that some are skeptical about the size and scale of this recovery plan," says President Obama. "I understand that skepticism, which is why this recovery plan must and will include unprecedented measures that will allow the American people to hold my Administration accountable for these results. We won't just throw money at our problems - we'll invest in what works."[/quote]

Detractors will often say that they don't want to utilize tax payer money that their kids and grand kids will eventually have to pay. It's a totally understandable concern, but the President also brings up a good point regarding the potentially lost generation of students who may not be able to afford college due to the worsening credit crisis (thereby making it harder for them to get loans). Add the already sky rocketing cost of tuition (both public and private schools), and I fear the country's colleges may see severely diminished student populations. And should this happen, the country loses its economic and technological advantage, thereby hurting everyone's long-term prospects. So in a way, failure to intelligently handle this crisis will hurt our kids and grand kids as well.

One thing I do support the Republican talking points on is the appropriateness of including additional funding for Pell Grants and health care in this stimulus. Funding going to such projects are not "shovel ready," and the whole point of stimulus is for a quick release of money into the economy. I definitely support increased spending in education and health care, but done through the normal appropriation's process. Although, with everyone hurting, can the country wait that long?

What are your thoughts? Let's try to keep this civil. If you disagree, what would you change?
 
How about a plan that tells these businesses how to appropriate said stimulus funds instead of them just allowing that money to sit in their vaults collecting dust?
 
[quote name='KingBroly']How about a plan that tells these businesses how to appropriate said stimulus funds instead of them just allowing that money to sit in their vaults collecting dust?[/QUOTE]

I do believe, with 85% certainty, that appropriated funds have be spent within a certain amount of time. Failure to do so, and the entities forfeit the money and is returned to the government.

Now I'm not sure if that was specifically for state funds or all appropriations. But good point!

And watching the HD Widescreen version on Youtube makes the President look almost 3D...:whee:
 
[quote name='Ecofreak']I do believe, with 85% certainty, that appropriated funds have be spent within a certain amount of time. Failure to do so, and the entities forfeit the money and is returned to the government.

Now I'm not sure if that was specifically for state funds or all appropriations. But good point!

And watching the HD Widescreen version on Youtube makes the President look almost 3D...:whee:[/quote]

But the funds can be spent in anyway the businesses see fit. So technically a company President could give his son a $150 million/year job to tell the company his opinion on if he likes the company or not. They could easily say the funds have already been allocated to an undisclosed area (some term they'll come up with) so they keep the money and demand more of it.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']How about a plan that tells these businesses how to appropriate said stimulus funds instead of them just allowing that money to sit in their vaults collecting fat interest. dust?[/QUOTE]

Fixed.
 
I love these weekly Youtube addresses. I hope the next President keeps this up.

I am no economist and have no idea what can be done to stimulate the economy. I do however like the idea of investing in our infrastructure and investing in renewable energy. If these things can create more jobs, thats even better.
 
YouTube HD is pretty awesome, Hulu needs to get on the ball


I really like having a president that talks to me. I mean, talks to people at all, you know. A president who doesn't berate journalists and ignore the American public. Regardless of where he leads, I feel like for the first time in my adult life my country had a leader. It's pretty nice.
 
[quote name='ananag112']
I am no economist and have no idea what can be done to stimulate the economy. I do however like the idea of investing in our infrastructure and investing in renewable energy. If these things can create more jobs, thats even better.[/QUOTE]

That was pretty much the same comment I was going to post. I like where the investments are going, but not being an economist I have no idea if it will help.

But I love seeing more money going into infrastructure, education and renewable energy regardless of whether it generates new jobs or stimulates the economy, so I can't complain. Like you said, if those measures do stimulate the economy then that's just the icing on the cake.
 
[quote name='Koggit']YouTube HD is pretty awesome, Hulu needs to get on the ball


I really like having a president that talks to me. I mean, talks to people at all, you know. A president who doesn't berate journalists and ignore the American public. Regardless of where he leads, I feel like for the first time in my adult life my country had a leader. It's pretty nice.[/QUOTE]

Presidents have done weekly radio addresses since forever, including George W. Bush. Just because you didn't listen doesn't mean he didn't try to talk to you. Also, please point me to an instance where Bush "berated" a journalist. I can't remember one, unless your definition of "berating" is different than mine.

fuck this board fucking forcing me to defend Bush.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Fixed.[/quote]

I didn't say collecting interest because the Government never thinks ahead. Even with their money.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']But the funds can be spent in anyway the businesses see fit. So technically a company President could give his son a $150 million/year job to tell the company his opinion on if he likes the company or not. They could easily say the funds have already been allocated to an undisclosed area (some term they'll come up with) so they keep the money and demand more of it.[/QUOTE]

Indeed, this is a problem because money is fungible.

[quote name='Dictionary.com']being of such nature or kind as to be freely exchangeable or replaceable, in whole or in part, for another of like nature or kind.[/quote]

Let's hope that the Administration has people who know any tricks the companies can use, and ensure that taxpayer money is used for its intended purposes.

[quote name='elprincipe']Presidents have done weekly radio addresses since forever, including George W. Bush. Just because you didn't listen doesn't mean he didn't try to talk to you. Also, please point me to an instance where Bush "berated" a journalist. I can't remember one, unless your definition of "berating" is different than mine.

fuck this board fucking forcing me to defend Bush.[/QUOTE]

I can't speak for him, but I do remember that Scott McClellan (one of Bush's press secretaries) was renowned for not answering any of the press's questions. This was largely because the Administration never told him anything. In fact, he was often praised for his "performance" during the press conferences. When this happens, transparency and accountability break down.

So I am happy to see that new websites are being created so we can see where and how our taxpayer money will be spent. And if we don't like it, we can get off our bums and contact your elected officials voicing our disapproval. Civic participation? What a concept!
 
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[quote name='elprincipe']Presidents have done weekly radio addresses since forever, including George W. Bush. Just because you didn't listen doesn't mean he didn't try to talk to you. Also, please point me to an instance where Bush "berated" a journalist. I can't remember one, unless your definition of "berating" is different than mine.

fuck this board fucking forcing me to defend Bush.[/QUOTE]

There was an awesome clip on The Daily Show mocking Obama for calling reporters by their name / treating them like human beings... then they showed a lengthy montage of Bush berating them, calling them lame nicknames, etc. I'll try to find it when I have a little extra time, it was pretty funny.
 
[quote name='Koggit']http://www.hulu.com/watch/52472/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-mon-jan-12-2009

here we go

3:45 is where the nicknames begin, but the whole opening segment is about Bush treating the media like crap[/QUOTE]

Not that this justifies it, but if you were in Bush's shoes for a week, you'd probably be pretty prone to treating the media like crap to. That is, of course, if a president is allowed to go by the golden rule.

It's hard to be nice to people that are never nice to you.

But of course, John Stewart surely didn't cover that angle.

When you have many people standing in line to suck your cock for the past 18 months, you will probably be very nice to them (Obama/Media)
 
The whole Bush administration acted untouchable. We've had 8 years of "yeah, it's going well -- fuck you for asking." Now, for the first time in my life since becoming politically aware, I have a president who is willing to talk about what's going to be done before doing it and is seemingly open to inquiry.

Tell yourself otherwise if you'd like, I'm not here to convince you of anything. You're entitled to your opinions just as I am mine.
 
The things Bush had gotten a pass on could fill volumes, it is only recently that the deference even diminished and it never fully went away.

Those who say otherwise are not in touch with reality and are whiners to boot.
 
[quote name='Ecofreak']I can't speak for him, but I do remember that Scott McClellan (one of Bush's press secretaries) was renowned for not answering any of the press's questions. This was largely because the Administration never told him anything. In fact, he was often praised for his "performance" during the press conferences. When this happens, transparency and accountability break down.[/QUOTE]

Oh, believe you me, I've heard a lot more of McClellan and other press secretaries in my line of work than you have. Yes, McClellan was very combative and I'm sure berated journalists. Tony Snow did so and apologized. Dana Perino did so on many an occasion. But I was speaking merely of Bush, so these folks are not who I was referring to. Although you're spot on with McClellan, he was a poor press secretary who didn't even give many scraps to the press, and they didn't like him at all - until his tell-all book, that is ;)
 
[quote name='Koggit']http://www.hulu.com/watch/52472/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-mon-jan-12-2009

here we go

3:45 is where the nicknames begin, but the whole opening segment is about Bush treating the media like crap[/QUOTE]

Thanks for digging it up. They certainly have different styles. I did watch from 3:45, but I don't see Bush berating anyone. Yes, he did call them by nicknames, no news to me, but that is not berating them. I wouldn't even be surprised if you were able to come up with one instance in a press conference over eight years where he snapped at someone, although I don't remember one off the top of my head. But the original post about him constantly berating journalists was just complete fiction.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Presidents have done weekly radio addresses since forever, including George W. Bush. [/QUOTE]

Sorry, but the radio went out of style with the advent of TV. I was born in the late 1970s and I can't remember ever listening to the radio outside of the car, with a few exceptions of listening to some college sport that weren't on TV.

It's absurd no president every had weekly TV addresses rather than going on the radio, so I'm happy Obama is at least using the internet.

I'll watch a short video every week. I'd never tune in on the radio.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Presidents have done weekly radio addresses since forever, including George W. Bush. Just because you didn't listen doesn't mean he didn't try to talk to you. Also, please point me to an instance where Bush "berated" a journalist. I can't remember one, unless your definition of "berating" is different than mine.

fuck this board fucking forcing me to defend Bush.[/QUOTE]

:lol: what's a radio? That weird thing with "Prairie Home Companion" on it? That shit's weird; I use it to play my ipod. ;)
 
It's funny how television addresses never became the norm. Maybe they felt more comfortable on radio? Just seems strange that it was completely ignored, we've gone from radio straight to internet videos.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']:lol: what's a radio? That weird thing with "Prairie Home Companion" on it? That shit's weird; I use it to play my ipod. ;)[/QUOTE]

Haha, no kidding. What's even more bizarre is that presidents don't use e-mail! They're afraid their private e-mails will be subpoenaed by Congress or something. What's a BlackBerry-loving Obama to do?
 
They developed a more secure Blackberry for him, so he gets to keep his. The e-mails are archived--but there are exceptions for 100% personal e-mails (believe they're still working out some details there).

Google it if you're curious, there were several articles about it earlier in the week.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']They developed a more secure Blackberry for him, so he gets to keep his. The e-mails are archived--but there are exceptions for 100% personal e-mails (believe they're still working out some details there).

Google it if you're curious, there were several articles about it earlier in the week.[/quote]

FOIA here we come!
 
[quote name='KingBroly']FOIA here we come![/QUOTE]

All you are likely to find out from his blackberry would be that he really really likes tuna melts.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']All you are likely to find out from his blackberry would be that he really really likes tuna melts.[/QUOTE]

Yuck!
 
If I knew he liked tuna... I would have voted for someone else.. If my basis of president is someone I want to have a beer with, the last thing I want is my "buddy" bringing a smelly tuna fish sandwich to the bar..
 
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