PRICELESS! 4 "Peace Workers" Detailing Iraq Abuses Kidnapped

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Hmmm, so much for the peacenik movement in Iraq.....

Video Shows Activists Kidnapped in Iraq
Nov 29 12:52 PM US/Eastern

By ROBERT H. REID
Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq

Al-Jazeera broadcast an insurgent video Tuesday showing four peace activists taken hostage in Iraq, with a previously unknown group claiming responsibility for the kidnappings.

The Swords of Righteousness Brigade said the four were spies working undercover as Christian peace activists, Al-Jazeera said. The station said it could not verify any of the information on the tape.

The aid group Christian Peacemaker Teams has confirmed that four of its members were taken hostage Saturday.

German television broadcast photos Tuesday showing a blindfolded German woman being led away by armed captors in Iraq. Six Iranian pilgrims, meanwhile, were abducted by gunmen north of Baghdad.

The pictures of Susanne Osthoff were taken from a video in which her captors demanded that Germany stop any dealings with Iraq's government, according to Germany's ARD television. Germany has ruled out sending troops to Iraq and opposed the U.S.-led war.

Two U.S. soldiers assigned to Task Force Baghdad were killed when their patrol was hit by a roadside bomb north of the capital, the U.S. command said.

At least 2,109 members of the U.S. military have died since the war began in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

A suicide car bomber killed eight Iraqi soldiers and wounding five more when he drove into an army patrol Tuesday in Tarmiyah, 30 miles north of Baghdad, police Lt. Ali Hussein said. A U.S. Army medical helicopter helped evacuate the wounded, he added.

Iraq was rocked by a wave of foreigner kidnappings and beheadings in 2004 and early 2005, but they have dropped off in recent months as many Western groups have left and security precautions for those who remain have tightened. Insurgents, including al-Qaida in Iraq, seized more than 225 people, killing at least 38 _ including three Americans.

The tape broadcast by Al-Jazeera showed four men and a British passport belonging to Norman Kember. The British government and the Christian Peacemaker Teams have both said Kember, a 74-year-old Briton, was among the four activists taken hostage.

Christian Peacemaker Teams said it would not identify the other three people for their protection.

A white-haired man shown in the passport photograph also was seen sitting on the floor next to three other men in the video, which had a date stamp indicating it was recorded Sunday.

The corner of the video showed two, crossed black swords and the name of the insurgent group written in red Arabic script.

Christian Peacemaker Teams issued a statement Tuesday saying the four men were working on behalf of Iraqi civilians. The group said it has had a team in Iraq since October 2002, working with U.S. and Iraqi detainees and training others in nonviolent intervention and human rights documentation.

Kember and another person were part of a visiting delegation, while two members of the group's Iraq-based staff also were taken, the statement said.

Kember, a retired professor, is a longtime peace activist who once fretted publicly that he was taking the easy way out by protesting in safety at home while British soldiers risked their lives in Iraq.

The U.S. Embassy has confirmed that an American is missing in Iraq _ presumably one of the aid workers. A Canadian official has said two Canadians were in the group.

"The team's work has focused on documenting and focusing public attention on detainee abuses, connecting citizens of Iraq to local and international human rights organizations, and accompanying Iraqi civilians as they interact with multinational military personnel and Iraq's government officials," the group said.

The statement said those taken hostage knew the risks when they went to Iraq.

The organization said it "does not advocate the use of violent force to save our lives should we be kidnapped, held hostage, or caught in the middle of a conflict situation."

This is going to be so great. They'd rather have their heads removed at the hands of a knife wielding terrorist and used as a bowling ball or skull fucked than be rescued. Gotta love those principled peaceniks.

In Barcelona, Spain, British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said he had contacted Iraqi Foreign Minister Hohshyar Zebari about Kember's abduction, and that Zebari "pledged every assistance from the Iraqi government."

Osthoff and her driver have been missing since Friday and, "according to current information, we have to assume it is a kidnapping," German Chancellor Angela Merkel said in Berlin.

She added that the Foreign Ministry has set up a crisis team to help secure the pair's release.

"The German government will do everything in its power to bring both back to safety," Merkel said.

Osthoff, 43, is a fluent Arab speaker and a trained archaeologist who has worked since 1998 for the Munich-based management consulting firm FaktorM, which said on its Web site that she has "organized and supported the distribution of aid goods in Iraq since 1991." She was in Iraq working to help German organizations distribute medicine and medical supplies.

"One can only hope and keep their fingers crossed and remain optimistic," her mother, Ingrid Hala, told Germany N24 news station.

Hala said she had not heard from her daughter for about five years, and her uncle, Peter Osthoff, said his niece had broken almost all ties with her family, including a daughter who will be 12 in December.

"She has almost no contact with any relatives," he told The Associated Press.

Germany's Central Council of Muslims called for Osthoff's immediate release.

The Iranian pilgrims were abducted Tuesday morning near Balad, 50 miles north of Baghdad, police Maj. Falah Mohammedawi said, but it was not clear if the six were going to or coming from Samarra, a central city that houses a shrine to two Shiite saints.

Iraq and Iran, predominantly Shiite countries, reached an agreement earlier this year on pilgrim visits, which excludes trips to Shiite shrines in Baghdad and Samarra because of the dangerous security situation. The pilgrims appear to have been violating that agreement.

Insurgents have kidnapped aid workers, journalists and contractors in an attempt to drive foreigners out of the country or to win large ransoms.

Since May, abductions have fallen off considerably, mainly because many Western groups left Iraq and security precautions for those remaining have been tightened, with foreigners staying in barricaded compounds and moving only in heavily guarded convoys.

The last American to be kidnapped was Jeffrey Ake, a contract worker from LaPorte, Ind., who was abducted April 11. He was seen in a video aired days afterward, held with a gun to his head, but there has been no word on his fate.

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This will make great internet video. I look forward to their decapitation while they sing Kumbaya.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']This is going to be so great. They'd rather have their heads removed at the hands of a knife wielding terrorist and used as a bowling ball or skull fucked than be rescued. Gotta love those principled peaceniks. [/QUOTE]

Or, they would rather have non-violent means of rescue than violent means of rescue. Just because someone doesn't believe that "might makes right" doesn't mean that they want to die.
 
If I ever see you around town, I'm going to punch you in the neck. I'll know its you from the mongoloid forehead and from the children pointing and laughing at the fatman in the corner of Border's giggling to himself as he reads the obituaries. What kind of a sick, hypocritical fuck are you? How can you find humor in people getting their head's cutoff? Did you ever stop and ask why "peaceniks" were needed in Iraq in the first place? Oh that's right, you are Republican, I keep forgetting you don't care about plans and consequences.
 
I guess you only reserve your fake indignation for American Christians.

for PAD, it was never about freedom, or compassion or anything noble. It is about taking joy in the death of those with whom you disagree.

you're a piece of crap.
 
[quote name='rabidmonkeys']If I ever see you around town, I'm going to punch you in the neck.[/QUOTE]

Tell me when you'd like to meet for our encounter to be videotaped.

You get the first shot free.
 
[quote name='usickenme']It is about taking joy in the death of those with whom you disagree.[/QUOTE]

Little else needs to be said about PAD's post. You're pitiful.
 
I suppose I could bait PAD with something like "It's so very refreshing to find out just who really supports terrorism,"

but of course I wouldn't do that. What's Druggy Limbaugh have to say about this?
 
And yet PAD is anti-choice. It's fun to watch innocent christians being slaughtered, but not extract fetuses that aren't even born yet.
 
No wonder tard. It's amazing how little you pay attention. It's incredible how stupid, imbecilic and idiotic you truly are.

I've stated dozens of times I'm pro choice.

Only a DUmmie like you could fail to read the facts and assume what you want to be true.
 
I must say, this is quite a disgusting post by PAD. Whatever your feelings toward anti-war activists, at least they were doing something in support of their cause. They were actually in Iraq working towards peace.

PAD, you support the war, but you don't have the balls to go over and fight it. Instead, you sit in your living room and write posts castigating those who have the dedication to work (in a dangerous situation) in support of their beliefs.

It is truly pathetic that you would revel -- even if for effect only -- in the misfortune of others.
 
[quote name='Msut77']Why is everyone feeding the troll?[/QUOTE]

The reason I respond to him is because the board is too liberal. Even if his posts are mostly just trolling he's still a conservative and does occasionally argue normally. Then again, some people go overboard and think he means what he says word for word. Sure his basic opinion is there, but like any good troll he bases it on his existing positions and just goes to the absolute extreme. He makes it believable.

He's a much better troll than me. The last time I tried it I made a topic calling all people who kept their 360's instead of selling them to be morons. Problem was most of the reponses seemed to agree with me.
 
At least I can apreciate the irony.

They're going to kill peace activists that are actually ON THEIR SIDE. Thats just hysterical... well... if you don't value human life on the whole... which I don't.
 
The peace activists are not on their side.

"The team's work has focused on documenting and focusing public attention on detainee abuses, connecting citizens of Iraq to local and international human rights organizations, and accompanying Iraqi civilians as they interact with multinational military personnel and Iraq's government officials," the group said.

Simply complaining about some of the same issues does not mean they're on the same side. If that were the case then I'm on the same side as neo nazi's, since I don't like zionism or Israel.

Neither wanted the u.s. to invade that country, but they have vastly different desires on what the direction and goals of the country should be. The simple fact that they are trying to help Iraqis work with military and government forces means they cannot be on the same side.
 
Only PAD and a few other sick, callous, extremist fucks would take pleasure in innocent peace-loving people being taken hostage and murdered.

I can't believe he plays RPGs. Somehow the humanitarian themes that tend to pervade RPGs seem to have eluded him.
 
When i first heard about it, i didnt find it funny, i mean why would i?

People dying is not laughing matter, and after seeing nick berg get killed, well that wasnt pretty. So if anyone finds it funny that people are getting killed, if this was my forum, i will ban you.
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']When i first heard about it, i didnt find it funny, i mean why would i?

People dying is not laughing matter, and after seeing nick berg get killed, well that wasnt pretty. So if anyone finds it funny that people are getting killed, if this was my forum, i will ban you.[/QUOTE]

If this was your forum, no one would be here. ;)
 
Hopefully they make it out alive.

Hits close to home; kidnapping Canadians, though? really? I thought we stayed out of there for a reason.
 
Canadian and a German.

Look what good playing "Good Samaratin" to a bunch of terrorists gets you. White skin? Westerner? Christian?

Off with their head!

This is like Darwin Award winning material here. It's kind of akin to white Mormons going through South Central or Compton preaching anti-violence and then getting mugged or car jacked.

Oh wait, Mormons aren't that stupid.

Peacenik leftists and their adopt a terrorist outreach programs? Well, they are that stupid.

There's something to be said about laying down with dogs and then bitching you have fleas that I find so funny about this story. The terrorists aren't the terrorists. It's the American and British guberbents that are the terrorists.

Hmmmm, wonder if they'll change their minds.
 
First of all no one is "bitching" they have fleas or the consequences. Secondly, I am sure they knew the risk and gosh, went ahead and did what they believe is right.

regardless, they won't be changing their minds. I guess a pea-brain coward like yourself can't wrap your head around the idea that principles are something you keep even if makes your life uncomfortable or puts your very being in danger. Hell, most of the peacenik groups were concerned about the well being of the Iraqis long before you could find the country on a map.
 
Ah yes, the coward thing. The same coward thing that put me in uniform for 8 years, put me in combat with Republican Guard divisions that had 8 years of desert warfare experience, a track record of using chemical weapons and reputation for executing POW's in horrific manners. Yes, I'm far too spoiled to ever have lived life uncomfortably or put myself in danger.

Pricks like you sitting behind a keyboard chomping Cheetos have no idea what sacrifice or danger is about. Let alone have any creedence bragging about how you know what it means.

What's your idea of sacrifice usickenme? Missing out on a game launch so you can save $30 in 6 months?
 
Haha oh so we're supposed to believe you were in the gulf war? The only thing that makes me believe that might be true is due to the fact that it's rational to believe you have some depleted uranium poisoning that has caused you brain damage. But seriously, you deserve respect because you tell everyone on an internet video game forum that you were in combat? the thought of you behind a gun is a scary thought when you act so irrational as too praise the fact that 4 peace workers might have their heads cut off, and you use it as some kind of partisanship slam against everyone on the forum, in reality the only thing you accomplish is leading everyone to believe you are trolling for response.
 
um, you spend your time crusading on a videogame forum populated by 19 year old college students... what the fuck are you doing?

so you fought in a war that was a joke and danced like the stupid brainwashed puppet that you are, what's your point?

note: i find this ad hominem to be the most constructive method of communication as it is extremely cathartic and self deprecating in the best possible way.
 
Love the quote sleepyking. I heartily recommend everyone adopt that as their signature.

Something really great about seeing my words immortalized in the true fashion of the original intent.
 
Face it, slappy.

Dropping your principles as well as a load in your shorts when someone yells "boo" qualifies.

and I don't care what you wore for 8 years because you probably had to do a lot of "midnight laundry" on those as well.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Ah yes, the coward thing. The same coward thing that put me in uniform for 8 years, put me in combat with Republican Guard divisions that had 8 years of desert warfare experience, a track record of using chemical weapons and reputation for executing POW's in horrific manners. Yes, I'm far too spoiled to ever have lived life uncomfortably or put myself in danger.

Pricks like you sitting behind a keyboard chomping Cheetos have no idea what sacrifice or danger is about. Let alone have any creedence bragging about how you know what it means.

What's your idea of sacrifice usickenme? Missing out on a game launch so you can save $30 in 6 months?[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Bill Hicks']Once again, I was watching the fucking news, and it really threw me off. It depressed everyone, it's so scary watching the news, how they built it all out of proportion, like Iraq was ever, or could ever possibly, under any stretch of the imagination be a threat to us-wwwwhatsoever. But-watching the news, you never would have got that idea. Remember how it started, they kept talking about 'the Elite Republican Guard' in these hushed tones like these guys were the bogeymen or something. Yeah, we're doing well now, but we have yet to face-THE ELITE REPUBLICAN GUARD. Like these guys were twelve feet tall, desert warriors. KRRASH. NEVER LOST A BATTLE! KRRASH. WE SHIT BULLETS! Yeah, well, after two months of continuous carpet bombings and not one reaction at all from them, they became simply, 'the Republican Guard.' Not nearly as elite as we may have led you to believe. And after another month of bombing, they went from 'the Elite Republican Guard' to 'the Republican Guard' to 'the Republicans made this shit up about there being guards out there'. We hope you enjoyed your fireworks show. It was so pretty, and it took our mind off of domestic issues! The Persian Gulf Distraction.

People said, "Uh-uh, Bill, Iraq had the fourth largest army in the world." Yeah, maybe, but you know what? After the first three largest armies, there's a real big fucking drop-off, all right? The Hare Krishnas are the fifth largest army in the world, and they've already got our airports, okay, so. I think that's the greater threat right now. Mr. Onion Head in Terminal C is scaring the shit out of me. Get him away from me. What an amazing thing, though. You know, and the amazing thing, obviously, the disparity and the casualties. Iraq - one hundred and fifty thousand casualties, USA - seventy-nine. Iraq - one hundred and fifty thousand, USA - seventy-nine. Does that mean that if we had sent over eighty guys, we still would have won that fucking thing, or what? One guy in a ticker-take parade[/quote]

From my understanding, PAD, the hostages *are* christians. With that in mind, are you still enjoying their captivity and potential beheading as much as Rush Limbaugh told you, in a drug-induced stupor certainly, to?
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Ah yes, the coward thing. The same coward thing that put me in uniform for 8 years, put me in combat with Republican Guard divisions that had 8 years of desert warfare experience, a track record of using chemical weapons and reputation for executing POW's in horrific manners. Yes, I'm far too spoiled to ever have lived life uncomfortably or put myself in danger.

Pricks like you sitting behind a keyboard chomping Cheetos have no idea what sacrifice or danger is about. Let alone have any creedence bragging about how you know what it means.

What's your idea of sacrifice usickenme? Missing out on a game launch so you can save $30 in 6 months?[/QUOTE]

Past performance does not guarantee future results.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Love the quote sleepyking. I heartily recommend everyone adopt that as their signature.

Something really great about seeing my words immortalized in the true fashion of the original intent.[/QUOTE]

um, sadly it wasn't taken out of context.

You live a sad life and deep down feel like your righteous cause cheated you out of years of your life, now you cling to the idea that you did something for the world, when actually everyone realizes that you didn't, and we pity you.

But you know what they say about suckers...
 
[quote name='Sleepkyng']um, sadly it wasn't taken out of context.

You live a sad life and deep down feel like your righteous cause cheated you out of years of your life, now you cling to the idea that you did something for the world, when actually everyone realizes that you didn't, and we pity you.

But you know what they say about suckers...[/QUOTE]

Did anyone think that maybe these "Christians" were trying to convert Iraqis to Christianity? That would probably be enough to spark kidnappings. Remember the Crusades?
 
sleepyking, you are BEYOND stupid.

I was complimenting you on NOT taking it out of context.

Reading comprehension, it is your friend.

Terrorists killing members of this group is great! They are enemies of the state and our way of life. We won't even arrest them for seditous actions (Well, can't arrest the Canadian or German.) so in this case.... the enemy of my enemy... well, you know the rest.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']sleepyking, you are BEYOND stupid.

I was complimenting you on NOT taking it out of context.

Reading comprehension, it is your friend.

Terrorists killing members of this group is great! They are enemies of the state and our way of life. We won't even arrest them for seditous actions (Well, can't arrest the Canadian or German.) so in this case.... the enemy of my enemy... well, you know the rest.[/QUOTE]

So the terrorists are our friends?
 
[quote name='evanft']So the terrorists are our friends?[/QUOTE]

When they can get rid of the people that PAD disagrees with? Yes.
 
If these people are so intent on wasting Americans do you think I'd stop the mass roundup of the kooks we see marching and protesting on a regular basis against the war on terror and exporting them to a slaughter zone in Iraq where Islamofascists can kill to their fill?

No bag limit on hippies dammit. Let them learn about the true nature of our enemy first hand. They don't seem to believe what they're told despite overwhelming evidence. Viewing attrocites first hand or having those near you slaughtered like spring lamb work wonders.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']If these people are so intent on wasting Americans do you think I'd stop the mass roundup of the kooks we see marching and protesting on a regular basis against the war on terror and exporting them to a slaughter zone in Iraq where Islamofascists can kill to their fill?

No bag limit on hippies dammit. Let them learn about the true nature of our enemy first hand. They don't seem to believe what they're told despite overwhelming evidence. Viewing attrocites first hand or having those near you slaughtered like spring lamb work wonders.[/QUOTE]

Congratulations -- you have perfected the Michael Savage talking points.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']If these people are so intent on wasting Americans do you think I'd stop the mass roundup of the kooks we see marching and protesting on a regular basis against the war on terror and exporting them to a slaughter zone in Iraq where Islamofascists can kill to their fill?

No bag limit on hippies dammit. Let them learn about the true nature of our enemy first hand. They don't seem to believe what they're told despite overwhelming evidence. Viewing attrocites first hand or having those near you slaughtered like spring lamb work wonders.[/QUOTE]

You said something I agree with in that last sentence. It's why I believe that our heavily censored news should show the real horrors of war, like a good foreign newscast.

Your implicit assertion that everyone who protests this war is a "hippie" is untrue. Where is this "overwhelming evidence"? Are you referring to missing WMDs or the dubious assertion that Sadaam was in league with Al Qaeda? Are you talking about the fact that Iraqis generally hate Americans, and the only thing they can all agree on is that they want their occupiers to leave?

I know that this may shock you, but there are many protesters that believe that what is needed is a gradual withdrawl of troops. Yet I suppose that acknowledgement of this fact would make your rants and tantrums less fun now, wouldn't it.
 
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