Ps3 tanking on ebay...

[quote name='Setzer']I loved the guy who sold his 60GB on ebay for $875 and included an extra controller and 2 games and in his description he said how he waited in line for 3 days, 2 nights just to get it. :lol:[/QUOTE]

I honestly don't understand why people would put games in the auction to try and add value. The console is the item that is scarce. The games are available and easy to find, and I haven't seen a single auction where the games have raised the price. By adding 2 games, you are basically cutting your profits by $120.
 
I tried to tell people that this would happen. When you have a game system that is $600 the demand WILL be implicitly lower. Add to that a $200 difference between it and its closet competitor, and you have a recipie for significantly lower demand regardless of brand strength(especially considering the brand strength of Microsoft). THEN add all of these people thinking they're going to make "like 10,000" and you have a recipie for massive disappointment.
 
[quote name='jalu6']I honestly don't understand why people would put games in the auction to try and add value. The console is the item that is scarce. The games are available and easy to find, and I haven't seen a single auction where the games have raised the price.[/QUOTE]
Just stupidity, really. They think that by offering the "ultimate bundle" with 3 extra controllers and 6 games and the Best Buy extended warranty (I actually saw some like this) they are going to get someone to spend $5000+, but it just doesn't work that way. Bundling things almost never works to the seller's advantage, especially if the extra things in the bundle are readily available.
 
Bundling will almost never raise the auction, except lately w/ the wii, accessories are raising auction prices, as the accessorries are harder to get then the games.

I'll say this again, as I've said a thousand times. PRICES ARE NOT GOING BACK UP!!!!!!!! Highest time to sell was w/o a doubt, the morning of launch, when I got 3,700 for mine. And for all those wondering, this was legit, I have the money in the bank account, and have contacted the buyer, who was happy w/ his purchase. Through some miracle of god, I was not scammed.

Honestly, the demand for a ps3 is waaaay lower then that of a wii. The wind got knocked out of the ps3's sails by the wii, and that is partially contributing to the ebay fallout. The item kiddies want this xmas more then anything is the wii. Just standing at target, eb, bb, etc. around the video games section has kids pointing saying how much they want a wii. They'll say, the ps3 graphics are pretty, but in the end they want a wii, and parents will push them that direction too b/c of price.

PRICES WILL NOT RISE!!!! The 360's Didn't rise, and that was when it was the only next gen system on the market. If you haven't sold your ps3 by now. Quite frankly you've missed any reasonable amount of profit for the effort unless you just walked in and picked it off the shelf. Right about now you might net 200-300 per sell if you're lucky.
 
[quote name='MAH4546']You will see a slight spike, probably the week before Christmas, as some parents begin to get desperate after not having been able to find a PS3. But that is it, and the spike will likely be minimal.[/QUOTE]

I doubt this will be the case.......parents aren't buying PS3's for kids at $600 a pop when every game except 2-3 of them area already available on the easy-to-find-and-$200-cheaper Xbox 360.....its scalpers and enthusiasts buying PS3 right now, even most gamers are taking a side seat until a few games are out for the thing. THe 1080i issue has put the brakes on alot of potential purchases as well.

They may be tougher to find on store shelves, but they wont be pulling out the big-bucks stops right before xmas unless Sony releases a bunch of must have Games for the thing...otherwise..why spend more than retail for a PS3 with no spectacular games or BD movies??? Just to say "I have one!" I guess.

Since most of the "good stuff" isn't expected to ship until MARCH, that means lots and lots and lots of time for store stocks to build up. 360s were easily available by March and they were in much higher demand last year.

I agree that if you wanted to scalp, day 1 was the only day to do it.....by now auctions are going lower and lower...with no real reason for them to spike before xmas at this rate.

PS3 has been completely overshadowed at this point by the Wii.......
 
Most parents don't care if the Xbox 360 is cheaper. If their kids want a PS3, they will try to get their kids a PS3, and most don't realize the Xbox can do the same things for $200 less. No doubts about it, there will be small spike in prices right before Christmas. Agreed, though, the Wii has totally overshadowed it, and it should...it is a superior gaming system in every way except graphics/performance, which matter less to the masses.

[quote name='HeadRusch']I doubt this will be the case.......parents aren't buying PS3's for kids at $600 a pop when every game except 2-3 of them area already available on the easy-to-find-and-$200-cheaper Xbox 360.....its scalpers and enthusiasts buying PS3 right now, even most gamers are taking a side seat until a few games are out for the thing. THe 1080i issue has put the brakes on alot of potential purchases as well.

They may be tougher to find on store shelves, but they wont be pulling out the big-bucks stops right before xmas unless Sony releases a bunch of must have Games for the thing...otherwise..why spend more than retail for a PS3 with no spectacular games or BD movies??? Just to say "I have one!" I guess.

Since most of the "good stuff" isn't expected to ship until MARCH, that means lots and lots and lots of time for store stocks to build up. 360s were easily available by March and they were in much higher demand last year.

I agree that if you wanted to scalp, day 1 was the only day to do it.....by now auctions are going lower and lower...with no real reason for them to spike before xmas at this rate.

PS3 has been completely overshadowed at this point by the Wii.......[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='MAH4546']Most parents don't care if the Xbox 360 is cheaper. If their kids want a PS3, they will try to get their kids a PS3, and most don't realize the Xbox can do the same things for $200 less. No doubts about it, there will be small spike in prices right before Christmas. [/QUOTE]

Dunno, disagree. This arguement is as old as the hills...parents do take notice when the price of the gift starts to pass the "half a grand" limit.

You're also going to have to take into account that parents who just LAST year shelled out $400+ for an Xbox 360 system are now being asked to shell out $600 more? ARe there any hardcore kids out there who didn't go 360 and only waited for PS3? A few I'm guessing, but not many.....not when its their parents money they're spending, anyhow.

I'm guessing that landslide of weak parents with weaker pocketbooks isn't coming in droves this year.
 
[quote name='MAH4546']You will see a slight spike, probably the week before Christmas, as some parents begin to get desperate after not having been able to find a PS3. But that is it, and the spike will likely be minimal.[/quote]

If there is a spike it will be like 50 dollars. It will be virtually unoticeable. The wii has taken the US by storm, and at this point has stolen ALL of the ps3 thunder. The complete unavailability of the system combined w/ absolutely no WOW factor kind of kill the system.

The wii has the WOW factor of the immersive gaming experience, plus the fact that the controller works way better then I ever imagined it would. I'm not a big fan of Zelda on teh system as the controls imo feel kind of clunky and imprecise at times, but wii sports in some of teh most fun I've had on a system in a long time.

After seeing Resistance and Gears of war, both in high def, I must admit, for the first time ever, I was actually wowed by the graphics, and it was not the graphics in resistance. Gears of WArs had just amazing graphics, with far advanced texturing and overall polygon use then resistance. Albeit resistance is a launch game, it lacks any WOW factor. Gears of War just by seeing it could sell 360's, and this is coming from the biggest xbox hater ever. Just look at my gaming collection on IGN. I own a whopping zero xbox games, but I must admit, it is tempting to pick up a 360 just based on price, and the amazing graphics, which imo will likely keep pace w/ the ps3, at least to the average observer.
 
[quote name='pinoy530']It won't go up before christmas. The 360 prices didn't go up. The price will continue to drop until ps3s are readily available. [/quote]

The reality is that prices will go up. My guess like I said before will be $1500 for a 60 gig console.

We are down to 12,000 units on ebay and I am estimating around 10,000 units a week before xmas. Folks will pay an extra $400 for the 60 gig, just wait and see.
 
There are a ton of people who aren't able to sell on ebay currently though, what's to stop them from just relisting the weeks before christmas?
 
[quote name='dallow']You're in the wrong forum.
This place is for people who enjoy a variety of gaming.[/QUOTE]

so if i dont like ps3 i dont like variety? News to me.

despite owning so many old gen systems and games including a ps1, game gear, nes, gameboy color, super nes, sega gen +32x, etc I can clearly see that in not liking one single system I am just a biased bastard....o well /sarcasm/end/
 
[quote name='Rimmit']. Gears of War just by seeing it could sell 360's, and this is coming from the biggest xbox hater ever. Just look at my gaming collection on IGN. [/quote]
I will fight you for that title.... 1... 2...3....4 i declare thumb war..... oh i still have another hand free for the sony.... im offhanding my distain for them both.... anyway if i really hand to pick between sony and microsoft, i would pick sony, if they get ff 13? and some other games i liked with the ps1 and 2. Overall though i just hope those games go to the wii. It will save me 600usd. and thats my inner cag talking.
 
I tried to sell mine on release day and it just got buried. By the time anyone saw it, the price tanked. I relisted it Saturday and it sold with BIN for $995 on Sunday. That was with 2 games and an extra controller. In all seriousness, I was just happy to be rid of it (I thought about returning it to the store where I got it, but since I paid cash, that would have been next to impossible).

eBay had a lot of restrictions on selling, one picture, have to show the receipt, etc and then Paypal was a major pain in the ass. The changed my status to "limited" and I can't do shit with it.

I had to fax them a copy of my "supplier" data, tracking number and some address verification for a credit check. When I called them to bitch them out, they told me that they were doing that to everyone selling a PS3 (although this was the first I had heard of it). My account has limited access until they CALL the buyer to verify receipt. What a load of crap! What the hell is the signature confirmation for? I can't move ANY money from my Paypal account (buy or transfer out) until all of this is done and they tell me it may be two weeks or more.

I know that this is what I deserve for eBay whoring, but the bottom line is that I made about $180. It wasn't worth the effort and I won't get my money for weeks until Paypal gets off their lazy ass and gets around to resolving my complaint.

I swear, this is the last time I try to sell a console on eBay. I kept my PS2 and 360 when I should have sold and all I wanted to do this time was get enough to pay for my Wii and I didn't even get that.

Lesson learned.

TBW
 
[quote name='oasisboy']The reality is that prices will go up. My guess like I said before will be $1500 for a 60 gig console.

We are down to 12,000 units on ebay and I am estimating around 10,000 units a week before xmas. Folks will pay an extra $400 for the 60 gig, just wait and see.[/QUOTE]

I could just say wishful thinking or delusional, but I will add: you think you are the only one holding out for a spike? The numbers available will climb again the week before xmas and nullify any "spike." This is what happens when 9/10 people buy this to sell it.
 
[quote name='dallow']You're in the wrong forum.
This place is for people who enjoy a variety of gaming.[/QUOTE]


No my friend your at the wrong website, this is a place for people who enjoy getting deals, not ripped off ;)
 
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