PS3 Unveiling Delayed

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Sony Computer Entertainment Japan has announced that it will not unveil the next generation PlayStation game console this month. Instead, stating that game makers and other insider parties would have a lot of trouble making a March unveiling schedule, the company has decided to hold the unveiling at a later, currently undisclosed date.

It may seem strange for a company to make an announcement about not announcing something, but SCE has previously gone on record stating that it would properly unveil the PS3 prior to the April 1 start of fiscal year 2005.

SCE stresses that development on the PS3 is not running late. The company is still working to show off the system at this year's Electronics Entertainment Expo, set for May in Los Angeles.

That sucks that it's not going to be unveiled this week, but hopefully they won't disappoint when they do unveil their next generation system. I'll be looking forward to E3 now that they've delayed the unveiling since E3 is about a month and a half away.
 
Unfortunately, I've heard rumors from several sources that PS3 will be much stronger hardware than the Xbox successor, eliminating Microsoft's only real advantage this generation. I wonder what power Nintendo's new system will have under the hood. Hopefully, E3 2005 will have some answers to these questions.
 
[quote name='MaxBiaggi3']Unfortunately[/QUOTE]


Unfortunately?

Isn't it good for all gamers to have the most powerful consoles possible out there? Who cares who makes them . . . unless, of course, you are a fanboy.
 
I thought I had read on gamespot and in several articles on egm, that their wouldn't be as much a difference between xbox 2 and ps3 as their was between xbox and ps2...and they might even be on the same page. It also had several developers with development kits that making games for the ps3 will be a lot harder then for the next gen xbox and nintendo systems....I have all 3 systems, and love each one for different games they offer, and don't won't to sound like a fanboy. Sony had promised the world with the ps2 and the emotion engine, and the promises of the look of games never came close to realization. That being said, I don't care what any company says their system can do, untill it has been launched into retail
 
[quote name='Kayden']I don't trust any "news" that is posted on or contains April First....[/QUOTE]

Sony's 2005 fiscal calendar begins on April 1st, there's no joke there. Especially since the Japanese aren't big on the pranks and such that we have here, so don't be questioning everything. That'll occur Friday, not today or tomorrow. Plus, it's been well documented that Sony has been planning on unveiling the PS3 before their 2004 fiscal year ends, or March 31st, and they announced that they won't be making that date.
 
[quote name='MaxBiaggi3']Unfortunately, I've heard rumors from several sources that PS3 will be much stronger hardware than the Xbox successor, eliminating Microsoft's only real advantage this generation. I wonder what power Nintendo's new system will have under the hood. Hopefully, E3 2005 will have some answers to these questions.[/QUOTE]

The funny thing is, is that everyone takes Iwata's statements about graphical power being over-emphasized today to mean that Nintendo is not going to worry about improving the technical abilities of their next machine at all and that they are solely going for innovation. It is going to be hilarious when Nintendo reveals a machine that is on-par or better than the Xbox2, graphically, and when everyone's jaw hits the floor and M$ and Sony start sucking their thumbs, Reggie says, "We didn't say it wouldn't be powerful. We just said that we didn't think that the next generation of games should focus on graphical power."

And then there is Sony. Of course they aren't going to talk about the PS3 this month. 1.) There is tomorrow left.:roll: 2.) I don't think that they were honestly expecting as much of a commotion over M$'s and Nintendo's GDC keynotes (can you say Nintendo-style-SNES-era-pompousness?). 3.) Maybe this Dual Shock 2 nonsense is making a bigger problem for them than one would think. 4.) They plan on putting a Blue-Ray drive in the thing... Do you really expect it to drop from $1000+ to sub-$200 in a year? 5.) After continuing their tradition of "excellence" (in hardware quality) with the faulty U.S. PSP release, I'm sure that they are scrambling to make things look positive. 6.) As ryanbph said, the Emotion Engine turned out to have the weakest capabilities out of the three systems. And it has been developed for at least 18 months longer than the other two and it still isn't catching up, yet the Xbox and GCN have a much longer stretch left in them until their capabilities are reached - Sony is already near or at it's end. I just can't trust that Sony can pull off a superior product until I see it. 7.) It seems to me that on the corporate end of things, Sony seems to be in somewhat of a jumbled mess, kind of in the style of what Sega was at, leading up to and after the launch of the DC.

I think that both M$ and Nintendo blew Sony's mind, and even if the only other thing that was true is the thing about the Blue-Ray drive's price, I would say that I were being optimistic if we saw the PS3 on U.S. store shelves by Christmas of 2006. But throw in all the other things (and there are many other things that come to my mind besides these seven things, these are just some of the things that popped into my mind as I typed) listed, and you have to admit that Sony is scrambling and hurting. They saw Nintendo as the "little guy" and they thought that they had squashed M$ so easily in their first bout, that they didn't take either company seriously. I mean, look at their PSP launch alone! They realize that, while Nintendo has zero marketing sense, they know how to make a product good. And out of the gates at that. Sure, the launch lineup wasn't for everyone, but now we have more good games in the pipe than you can shake a stick at, plus we have preliminary announcements for the long awaited NintendOnline service - something that Nintendo has been working on for twenty years (I think they know what they are doing - finally!)!

I think that Sony realizes that the other two consoles are going to be as good (graphically) or better than theirs, and that M$'s will be gaining support for at least twelve months prior to the release of PS3 and Revolution will probably be around for six months or so. And then there is the customized online service each will have (compared to Sony's generic one), plus Nintendo's will also be free. And the other two consoles (especially Nintendo's) are looking towards innovation to boot. Sony obviously fears being the one's in a catch-up position this time around. And if they don't have extra power or features that the others don't, they won't have a lot to be running on. They won't even have the exclusive feature of being backwards compatible. Nintendo is finally in the optical disc world. They have already announced backwards compatibility.

Anyway, I could go on forever. But I won't. And my point is: Why would anyone be surprised?!?

P.S. Kayden: Do you even know what day it is? April 1st is still two days away...;) This wasn't announced two days from now.
 
Sony is in trouble because even its strong supporters (customer side) are getting fed up. I loved the Playstation and PS2 for their software lineup, and Sony's design sense. I was ready to support them in the third generation, but after the massive onslaught of faulty PS2 consoles, abandonment of HDD, horrible redesign of the PS2, and less-than superb quality of the PSP consoles, I'm ready to hop over to MS.

If Microsoft can get their console the software support that Sony had this generation (Square, Naughty Dog, Konami, Capcom), I will be waiting in line for an Xbox2.

Nintendo is a given... The NES, SNES and Gamecube are home to some of my favorite games and their hardware quality is unmatched in my eyes.

I'm sick of supporting a company that consistantly screws me over.

The only way I'll support the PS3 (aside from being forced to by great software) is if Sony produces a durable, long-lasting console... My SNES still works perfectly after 15 years, as do all of my old crappy CD players, which were essentially the DVD players of the 80's.

I've lost all direction with this post... /rant
 
[quote name='MorPhiend']"blah blah blah"

P.S. Kayden: Do you even know what day it is? April 1st is still two days away...;) This wasn't announced two days from now.[/QUOTE]

No... I never have a shaq-funing clue what day it is... I got a watch that shows the day, but that doesn't really help me because 1) I always forget to wear it and 2) It doesn't tell me the month...

However, in my defence, I said I don't trust news posted on, OR CONTAINING, April first. The article said they were going to present it on the first...
 
[quote name='Kayden']No... I never have a shaq-funing clue what day it is... I got a watch that shows the day, but that doesn't really help me because 1) I always forget to wear it and 2) It doesn't tell me the month...

However, in my defence, I said I don't trust news posted on, OR CONTAINING, April first. The article said they were going to present it on the first...[/QUOTE]

I figured that would be the reply, wise guy...:lol:
 
[quote name='MorPhiend']I figured that would be the reply, wise guy...:lol:[/QUOTE]

I forget days all the time... Major holidays... "huh?"
i even forgot my birthday until my mom called to say happy bday...
 
Microsofts only advantage this generationis better graphics? You failed to mention better DVD quality, 4 controller ports, hard-drive, downloadable content.
 
4 controller ports is only an advantage if you USE them. I've yet to need more than 2.

Anyway all that matters is the company that produces a home console that developers want to develop for. Sony did that twice I'm hoping they'll do it a 3rd time.
 
[quote name='gizmogc']Microsofts only advantage this generationis better graphics? You failed to mention better DVD quality, 4 controller ports, hard-drive, downloadable content.[/QUOTE]

yeah, the only thing the xdude lacked was GAMES THAT DON'T SUCK MONKEY NADS.
 
[quote name='Alpha2']4 controller ports is only an advantage if you USE them. I've yet to need more than 2.

Anyway all that matters is the company that produces a home console that developers want to develop for. Sony did that twice I'm hoping they'll do it a 3rd time.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, 4 controller ports are overrated anyways. I have enough trouble just getting one friend over because of conflicting schedules, let alone 3.

I believe Sony's definitely looking to make the PS3 much easier to develop for than the PS2, so the developers shouldn't be hesitant to make PS3 games.
 
[quote name='CrashSpyro123']Yeah, 4 controller ports are overrated anyways. I have enough trouble just getting one friend over because of conflicting schedules, let alone 3.[/QUOTE]

I thought it was your unnaturally harsh body oder... :mrgreen:
 
[quote name='Kayden']I thought it was your unnaturally harsh body oder... :mrgreen:[/QUOTE]

Nope, I bathe regularly like everyone else, except of course, you. ;)
 
[quote name='Gamespot']Sony moves up E3 PS3 unveiling

Japanese game giant's expo press conference will now be held before Microsoft's and Nintendo's.
Yesterday, Microsoft sent out invitations to its E3 press conference, at which the company confirmed it will show off its next-generation console. As has been the case for the past several years, the event will occur on the evening of the Monday before E3 officially begins on Wednesday.

This year, the Microsoft conference will happen at 6:45pm PDT on Monday, May 16. Nintendo's press conference, which will feature its next-gen "Revolution" console, is slated for 9am PDT on Tuesday, May 17, in keeping with tradition. Customarily, Sony would then get the last word in on Tuesday afternoon at its own event, at which it has said it will unveil the next PlayStation.

As it turns out, this year things are going to be a little different. Shortly after many members of the games press received their invites from Microsoft, Sony sent invitations to its conference--on Monday afternoon. The new time means Sony will now have the distinction of showing its console to the public before its two rivals.
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Frankly I think it's a mistake, when the DC came out everyone ooh'd and ahh'd only to be shocked when Sony unveiled PS2 graphics with the Reiko Nagase and Early shots of the Bouncer. That extr graphical puch is what helped them win the battle before either system was even released, but this time around they're unveiling first leaves them opened to be over shadowed but either M$ or Nintendo, That is unless they think they have something that will blow people away so badly that they'll be bored by the other two systems later on in the day.

I guess we'll see what happens next month.
 
[quote name='Alpha2']Frankly I think it's a mistake, when the DC came out everyone ooh'd and ahh'd only to be shocked when Sony unveiled PS2 graphics with the Reiko Nagase and Early shots of the Bouncer. That extr graphical puch is what helped them win the battle before either system was even released, but this time around they're unveiling first leaves them opened to be over shadowed but either M$ or Nintendo, That is unless they think they have something that will blow people away so badly that they'll be bored by the other two systems later on in the day.

I guess we'll see what happens next month.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I heard about this a couple of days ago, and I think that they are thinking that they will have more to offer than M$ does (and they still aren't worried about Nintendo:roll: - pure arrogance), so no one will be excited when M$'s show happens, just hours later.

But I still think that people are discounting Nintendo prematurely (especially Sony). I still think that Iwata's comments about innovation vs. graphical power does not mean that the power of the Revolution will not be able to compete with the other consoles. I think that he was just saying that graphics are so "blah." It has been shown for two generations that any company can make a powerful machine. Now it is time to see what they can do with it in terms of gameplay.
 
Yeah I was discussing it in another forum and I came to the conclusion that Sony will need to create a level of detail EQUAL to or GREATER than Pixar on the fly with the PS3 for anyone to really notice a differeance or atleast have a processor that dosen't chug where M$s might.

I think most people are discounting Nintendo because they can't really conceive of a way they can improve game play outside of using technology that either dosnt exist yet like mind control or use something unprovent to be accurate or reliable.
 
[quote name='Alpha2']Frankly I think it's a mistake, when the DC came out everyone ooh'd and ahh'd only to be shocked when Sony unveiled PS2 graphics with the Reiko Nagase and Early shots of the Bouncer. That extr graphical puch is what helped them win the battle before either system was even released, but this time around they're unveiling first leaves them opened to be over shadowed but either M$ or Nintendo, That is unless they think they have something that will blow people away so badly that they'll be bored by the other two systems later on in the day.

I guess we'll see what happens next month.[/QUOTE]

A few hours' difference is much different than many months' difference, so none of the systems will really out do each other right at E3. There will be so much new info and stuff that everyone will just ride the whole week on pure bliss over what they've seen, heard, and experienced. With Nintendo's and Sony's consoles coming out after Xbox 2, Microsoft definitely has more pressure on it to deliver and make everyone want to move on at the end of this year. Though Sony and Nintendo do have to convince people to stave off the Microsoft temptation and the other one's console and get their console when it comes out.

One reason I see for Nintendo not being the main target of Sony or Microsoft is that they seem to be going off on a tangent and really don't have the same goals that MS or Sony have. MS and Sony want to own your living room/entertainment center, meanwhile Nintendo seems to want to take their Nintendo fans and bring in those that had no interest in gaming over the past 5-10 years or so. Nintendo wants to innovate in the gameplay/user interface sense while Sony and MS want to innovate in how you can use your console and expand the experience.

It'll be an interesting week to say the very least, and I can't wait.
 
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