PSi - "Smaller PSP with touch screen"

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I have both systems, and honestly, the DS is far better. I do agree, the graphics on the PSP are prettier, and it can play movies. I tried watching Sin City for the first time on my PSP on the way home from dropping off my brother at college earlier in the year. For the most part, at night, it was fine and easy to watch. But during the day, the glare from the sun made me have to angle myself; and the PSP in ways that no human should be in during a car ride.
The DS on the other hand, does have a bit of a glare problem during daylight hours in a car, but with the new DS lite it would seem that the backlighting settings would take care of that glare problem.

All in all, the DS has a far better library then the PSP, and I have warranties on both and if it's doable I probably will be nit-picky and get the Lite and PSi and say my devices have dead pixels (which at least the PSP does have). But other then that, I don't see any reason other then the enhanced d-pad that the PSi is any better.
 
[quote name='UncleGuito']It's funny how biased Nintendo people think that the touchscreen option on the DS is soo unique. Right, Nintendo was no where near coming up with it. What about the Zodiac, Palms, and Pocket PC's? The have had them forever.

Two can play this game, now get a taste of your own, ignorant medicine.[/QUOTE]

Oh man.. right, it was amazing how the Zodiac and those PDAs changed gaming.:roll:

Of course we Nintendo people are going to argue this, the DS was meant to be a gaming system (seriously, not that joke Zodiac who was doomed to fail). I doubt any intelligent person considered the Zodiac a challenge to the PSP/DS... I mean, I'm sure Iwata saw the Zodiac and decided to copy it seeing as how Nintendo has a habit of stealing other people's idea since they like to get sued so much.;-)

I'm not trying to sound like an ass though that's probably what I'm doing, it's just that the Zodiac wasn't even on most gamer's radars, it was obsolete- not because it was bad hardware but because it had almost no support.
 
[quote name='Vinny']Oh man.. right, it was amazing how the Zodiac and those PDAs changed gaming.:roll:

Of course we Nintendo people are going to argue this, the DS was meant to be a gaming system (seriously, not that joke Zodiac who was doomed to fail). I doubt any intelligent person considered the Zodiac a challenge to the PSP/DS... I mean, I'm sure Iwata saw the Zodiac and decided to copy it seeing as how Nintendo has a habit of stealing other people's idea since they like to get sued so much.;-)

I'm not trying to sound like an ass though that's probably what I'm doing, it's just that the Zodiac wasn't even on most gamer's radars, it was obsolete- not because it was bad hardware but because it had almost no support.[/quote]
That wasn't my point, and it wasn't to belittle the DS either (as I have a Lite preordered). I am just trying to prove that it is retarded to claim that Nintendo "invents" such amazing things, even though they don't. I'm sure if the DS were released with any other company, it would have been doomed, just as the Zodiac was.
 
[quote name='UncleGuito']I was just replying to how Nintendo activists/fantatics claim Sony always steals ideas, and now, is doing so again with the PSP.

Edit- No, the DS wasn't.

My main point is that I don't understand why DS activists get so pissed off at Sony, saying they recycle all of Nintendo's ideas. They aren't Nintendo's ideas, others came up with them first, Nintendo just refined them, just as Sony does with many as well. Game developers do the same with every game, yet you don't hear immature other developers complaning about it.[/QUOTE]


I've been rooting for the DS fanboys in this thread merely because I interpret their distaste towards Sony as a response to all the "Nintendo's so screwed, Sony PSP is going to come in with movies, MP3's, pictures, blah blah blah and Nintendo's silly little touch screen gimmick is going to shrivel and die".

To me, this isn't Nintendo Vs. Sony, this is rubbing all those Sony fanboys' noses in the fact that their precious PSP that does your homework and mows the lawn and intercepts alien signals from alternate universes hasn't been able to come in and kick Nintendo out of the portable gaming market as they were so hoping.

Not all Sony or PSP fans are fanboys, but I am enjoying the fact that the PSP fanboys are having to eat their words First it was "the touch screen is such a stupid little childish gimmick!" Now Sony's big UMD weapon of mass destruction fizzled and all of a sudden it's a genius idea that Sony would add a touch screen to their system. (Whether this story is true or not, we wouldn't even be talking so much about it if there weren't some truth to the accusation that the PSP needs something else). "And shame on all you Nintendo fans who accuse Sony of copying Nintendo!!!" That's what gets under everyone's skin.
 
[quote name='Kayden']Every generation Nintendo copies someone else.

Shoulder buttons? Check! Some Ascii genesis controllers had this, as well as the Ver.2 6 button official Sega Controller to switch from 3 button, to 6!

Analog stick? Check! Sega Saturn! 3d Stick!

Touchscreen? ...maybe? Based off of the sucess of palm and pocket pc games!

Its actually backwards. Nintendo should have made a handheld like the PSi with one touchscreen and then Sony should have come along and made something like the DS. They not only copied the should buttons, they doubled them. Not one analog stick, but two!

However, I'm thinking this article is bogus. If the screen is supposed to be 3" that would only leave .75 of an inch on each side of the hand held for the buttons. Looking at the picture, the buttons are the same size as the screen, which would make it 6".[/quote]

Fixed your post. Thanks!
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']Fixed your post. Thanks![/QUOTE]
If by fixed you mean filled with inaccurate information, maybe.

The N64 came out almost a full year before Nights and the analog Saturn pad.

The "shoulder button" on the Genesis 6 pad wasn't really a button that did anything in game. The mode button was something you held down at game boot to trick the game into thinking you had a 3 button controller. I'd hardly call that a rip off--nevermind the fact that the SNES came out long before the 6 button genesis pad.

And as always with you Mooky, I can never tell if you're joking. If you were, I apologize. ;)
 
[quote name='chosen1s'] Not all Sony or PSP fans are fanboys, but I am enjoying the fact that the PSP fanboys are having to eat their words First it was "the touch screen is such a stupid little childish gimmick!" Now Sony's big UMD weapon of mass destruction fizzled and all of a sudden it's a genius idea that Sony would add a touch screen to their system. (Whether this story is true or not, we wouldn't even be talking so much about it if there weren't some truth to the accusation that the PSP needs something else). "And shame on all you Nintendo fans who accuse Sony of copying Nintendo!!!" That's what gets under everyone's skin.[/quote] Well, I wouldn't be making such a big deal about the UMD crisis, it only effects the UMD MOVIE industry, not gaming. I have yet to find someone I know that has bought a UMD movie, they're a ripp off, and, why buy them when you can convert your own.

If you considered the UMD situation to effect anything other than that, you are incorrect: that would be like saying that Nintendo will be regretting they ever used cartridges for the DS, since they have been obsolete for a long while.

Anyways, even if you still think companies DO "steal" ideas from one another, it makes no difference. Stop whining, it's useless bickering over useless stuff. I don't work for Sony, and you don't work for Nintendo, so why argue? I doubt Nintendo or Sony even give a rat's ass about it anyways.
 
Nintendo copied the atari for the use of carts. BASTARDS!

Meh, who cares who copies who... play what you like - I personally like the DS more than the PSP, but I perfer not to ride the nintendo hype train cause they finally got a system worth anything.

Sony, I doubt I'll ever buy sony again, after all the problems with my PS2 and now my PSP is pretty much obselete... boooo

Sometimes I wonder if these companies are TRYING to get me out of gaming altogher.

To me, I think nintendo is the console apple... which is very good and very bad.
 
[quote name='munch']explain to me how I'm missing the bulk of the post. You are saying that touch screen functionality is useless. Now, if you would have said that having played the games that would be one thing. But you openly admit that you HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES. I'm not criticizing opinions, i'm criticizing UNINFORMED opinions like yours.

So it seems to me that you're the jackass in this situation, not me.[/QUOTE]
I've played a lot of the DS games and I agree, most of the uses of the touch screen in the games are well...useless and just there to be there (doesnt mean the game is worse though...usually anyways). The few games that actually use it with some meaning are pretty fun though...
 
[quote name='Strell']You don't think the UMD situation hurts the PSP, after it was touted as a huge media player?[/quote]
If you would have read the post and actually owned a PSP, you would know it doesn't. People convert their own movies.
 
That's funny, cuz I do own a PSP, and several games and UMDs for it.

In fact, why don't you search posts by myself? As well as some trades I've done on here? I suggest you start with users TMACDaddy, iazybandit, and sainrub, as well as checking the recent B2G1 EB/GS Sale thread and a PSP thread called "Cheap, cool accessories." My tradelist would be yet another good place to look.

I love it with people think they know shit they simply don't.
 
Alright, point proven.
It seems you lack any ways of properly communicating like an intelligent human being, good job.

By saying "people convert their own movies," I implied that the MAJORITY of movies watched on the PSP are converted. I'm sure if you asked those people what they have more, converted movies or UMD movies, you'd recieve a result that greatly supports my hypothesis.

I suggest the mods close this thread before anymore unneeded & pathetic flaming occurs.
 
I didn't feel like talking about something I knew I'd agree on, so I thought I'd rather just attack whatever idiotic statement was weak.

I would assume most people would convert their movies. It would be silly not to. But after Sony talked about how "omfg UMD is teh new toast, bithez" and sold upwards of 100K on some titles, only to have it die a few months later, I fail to see how it is not a blow to the PSP, especially when it is the only commercial device available to play said media on.

Furthermore, when the shelf space of the PSP reduces by half because there's no longer a big UMD presence, that WILL serve to lower the visibility of the machine, and hence lower sales.

Sony will be hurt simply because royalties will go down on UMD sales. This doesn't include money lost in UMD R&D.

Finally, it hardly matters if people convert their own movies. That doesn't help Sony's revenue at all. Hell, you could make a (really weak) argument that people are pirating Sony-owned properties on their sticks. However, you can easily argue that UMD helps the PSP. The level of which it does is debatable, but it certainly helps the machine. And reducing it will hurt the PSP. Again, the impact is debatable, but it will hurt the machine.

Also, if you think that all PSP owners are techies that know about PSP Video 9 and Videora, or even commercial software packages like the PSP Manager 1st party software, I highly suggest you wake up. I gaurantee you the percentage of owners who actually know the ins and outs of the PSP is far lower than the userbase. Half of them probably think you can not watch movies UNLESS they are UMD.

Now then, if that isn't a sufficient enough answer for you, please attempt to again tell me how UMD depletion doesn't hurt the PSP.

I'll just be laughing until then.

[quote name='UncleGuito']Alright, point proven (that small little mark?).[/QUOTE]

You should just be happy you still have a head on your shoulders.
 
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