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[SlimSkeletor]

The games all in unique universes with different stories are carbon copies? That’s dumb. Go play your games and then tell us what you think of them but obviously you haven’t spent enough time to say the GOT game and the Borderlands are the same.

Ok I was exaggerating with “carbon copies.” They all do have a very similar feel except for the GoT game which I feel is the best. I haven’t played the Batman game, but will check it out.

 

[aircobra]

So I have Sniper Elite 4 Deluxe Edition, Bloodborne Complete Edition, and Fortnite Standard in my cart but can't get myself to pull the trigger. I know how much praise Bloodborne gets, but any opinions on the other 2?

 

[kelo360]

So I have Sniper Elite 4 Deluxe Edition, Bloodborne Complete Edition, and Fortnite Standard in my cart but can't get myself to pull the trigger. I know how much praise Bloodborne gets, but any opinions on the other 2?

Not sure you need fortnite unless you’re dying to try the single player. Isn’t it going free to play in 2018?

 

[.Beowulf]

still havne't received my sony rewards points for my large order during last weeks sales

anyone else in a similar boat? doesn't usually take an entire week does it?

 

[ubiquetous]

Last week I pulled the trigger on Hellblade. Like what I've played so far.

Yesterday I pulled the trigger on Bloodborne CE, Gravity Rush Remastered, and Gravity Rush 2.

 

[Squeegor 2]

Some new deals:

FIFA 18 - $29.99 - 50% Off - Ends 1/2/18

FIFA 18 Icon Edition - $49.99 - 50% Off - Ends 1/2/18

FIFA 18 Ronaldo Edition - $39.99 - 50% Off - Ends 1/2/18

Madden NFL 18 - G.O.A.T. Holiday Upgrade - $7.99 - 60% Off - Ends 1/2/18

Madden NFL 18 - G.O.A.T. Squads Upgrade - $7.99 - 60% Off - Ends 1/2/18

Madden NFL 18 G.O.A.T. Holiday Edition - $31.99 - 60% Off - Ends 1/2/18

Madden NFL 18 Standard Edition - $23.99 - 60% Off - Ends 1/2/18

NHL 18 Standard Edition - $23.99 - 60% Off - Ends 1/2/18

NHL 18 Young Stars Deluxe Edition - $39.99 - 60% Off - Ends 1/2/18

NHL 18 Young Stars Edition - $31.99 - 60% Off - Ends 1/2/18

Star Wars Battlefront II - $34.79 - 42% Off - Ends 1/2/18

Star Wars Battlefront II: Elite Trooper Deluxe Edition - $46.39 - 42% Off - Ends 1/2/18

Shutup and take my money.
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[yourmomsnewboyfriend]

Battlefront 2 is lots of fun. I recommend it. Allowing the internet at large to dictate your opinion is sad. Plus the whole deal is beyond hypocritical. As they froze money purchases, you can still buy nba2k points, halo req packs, etc. But who ever said Star Wars fanboys weren’t whiny and are rational.

 

[Zenax[zd]]

still havne't received my sony rewards points for my large order during last weeks sales

anyone else in a similar boat? doesn't usually take an entire week does it?

Not with points but it's officially been 7 days since I ordered my latest free $10 psn credit and I still haven't received it. All my good luck with the site has finally ran out it seems.

 

[.Beowulf]

Not with points but it's officially been 7 days since I ordered my latest free $10 psn credit and I still haven't received it. All my good luck with the site has finally ran out it seems.

maybe slow for the holidays

not sure why it wouldn't all be automatic but some sites sure seem like they operate with a keebler elf crew in a technology tree somewhere manually doing everything

 

[shadowysea07]

What are the chances that PSP games go on sale in the PS Store or drop in price? I've been eyeing Trails in the Sky SC and Lunar Silver Star Harmony for for a while now but I don't think I've ever seen either as part of a sale.

You are better off ignoring the psp version since the steam version and such have the enhanced versions.

 

[KemperJones]

I had to grab both Gravity Rush titles while they're on sale, but now I feel like I should enact a game spending freeze on myself for quite some time.  As is an issue with many CAG's, my backlog is HUGE.  I really need to start dedicating some time to games I have before buying more simply because I think it's a good deal.

I also ordered a 4TB external HDD today so that I can download a bunch of digital games and have them ready for me to start playing through.

 

[elessar123]

Battlefront 2 is lots of fun. I recommend it. Allowing the internet at large to dictate your opinion is sad.

So, don't listen to you, because you're on the internet, and Battlefront 2 is not fun. Got it.

 

[Zenax[zd]]

maybe slow for the holidays

not sure why it wouldn't all be automatic but some sites sure seem like they operate with a keebler elf crew in a technology tree somewhere manually doing everything

With rewards at least the majority of them are physical so there is a human involved somewhere (probably not working right now), not sure if digital codes are automated or someone actually pushes a button somewhere. With sony I could see it going either way.

But for your point total there is no real potential excuse. Also now that I think about it I've spent like $50 over the past few weeks on PSN and I have no idea if my points have updated or not, honestly don't remember what I was at before.

 

[shadowysea07]

I had to grab both Gravity Rush titles while they're on sale, but now I feel like I should enact a game spending freeze on myself for quite some time. As is an issue with many CAG's, my backlog is HUGE. I really need to start dedicating some time to games I have before buying more simply because I think it's a good deal.

I also ordered a 4TB external HDD today so that I can download a bunch of digital games and have them ready for me to start playing through.

that moment when you bought more games than you finished this year and forgot you even bought some of them... Actually happened to me the other day when I saw yakuza 5 in my download list and I don't remember ever buying it.

I finished 13 games this year though at least so in about 8-10 years I should be able to clean up my backlog.

 

[KemperJones]

that moment when you bought more games than you finished this year and forgot you even bought some of them...

Exactly

 

[frankmackeyspam]

that moment when you bought more games than you finished this year and forgot you even bought some of them... Actually happened to me the other day when I saw yakuza 5 in my download list and I don't remember ever buying it.

I finished 13 games this year though at least so in about 8-10 years I should be able to clean up my backlog.

Yakuza 5 was free on PS+ a while back.

 

[Thespyder314]

Battlefront 2 is lots of fun. I recommend it. Allowing the internet at large to dictate your opinion is sad. Plus the whole deal is beyond hypocritical. As they froze money purchases, you can still buy nba2k points, halo req packs, etc. But who ever said Star Wars fanboys weren’t whiny and are rational.

There is a distinct difference....the games you listed are not broken or have their progression systems 100 percent entrenced in microtransactions. Battlefront is 100% garbage when multiplayer abilities and heroe abilities are locked inside of loot crates which give people who have played the game for a while or chose to pay for loot crates a distinct advantage in multiplayer. Seeing as how a majority of Star Wars Battlefront II is multiplayer based and it's multiplayer is predicated on grinding and how much you choose to spend and not your skill level in a multiplayer game I don't see how you can consider that fun.

 

[awp]

There is a distinct difference....the games you listed are not broken or have their progression systems 100 percent entrenced in microtransactions. Battlefront is 100% garbage when multiplayer abilities and heroe abilities are locked inside of loot crates which give people who have played the game for a while or chose to pay for loot crates a distinct advantage in multiplayer. Seeing as how a majority of Star Wars Battlefront II is multiplayer based and it's multiplayer is predicated on grinding and how much you choose to spend and not your skill level in a multiplayer game I don't see how you can consider that fun.

I think some of that depends on how ultra competitive you are. I absolutely love the space combat in the game. I could care less if I’m in the top players each round. I just think it’s damn fun and get plenty of kills in dogfighting that honestly is the best I’ve ever played for a casual space shooter.

What’s “100% garbage” to you is still a fun game to many others. Do I dislike the progression system? Sure. But do I care enough about it to hamper my enjoyment? No.

All perspective.

I think the campaign is mediocre at best. The ground battles are fun enough but the space combat rocks.

And whether or not you get blown away in those battles certainly does have a lot to do with skill. You can spend all the money you like to get more perks but if you can’t fly and out maneuver your opponents, you’re still going to lose.

 

[elessar123]

You guys enjoying Battlefront 2 need to also remember that grinding and loot boxes were toned down massively because of the outcry. All the initial fuel for it was not what you're playing. I would even go as far to say that you're able to enjoy it now BECAUSE of the outcry.

 

[Thespyder314]

You guys enjoying Battlefront 2 need to also remember that grinding and loot boxes were toned down massively because of the outcry. All the initial fuel for it was not what you're playing. I would even go as far to say that you're able to enjoy it now BECAUSE of the outcry.

A billion times this

 

[CrepeNuts]

You guys enjoying Battlefront 2 need to also remember that grinding and loot boxes were toned down massively because of the outcry. All the initial fuel for it was not what you're playing. I would even go as far to say that you're able to enjoy it now BECAUSE of the outcry.

Not to mention that the whole outcry went WAY over their heads because the examples they equated it to DID NOT HAVE A PAY TO WIN SCHEME. Halo and NBA 2K didn't have any system that the more you paid the better gear (that has real effects on gameplay) you'd get more quickly.

 

[awp]

Not to mention that the whole outcry went WAY over their heads because the examples they equated it to DID NOT HAVE A PAY TO WIN SCHEME. Halo and NBA 2K didn't have any system that the more you paid the better gear (that has real effects on gameplay) you'd get more quickly.

WTF? I knew exactly what the fuss was about. And I certainly know that the micro transactions had an effect on gameplay. I never denied that. I just said I still enjoy the damn game. For you to insult my intelligence just because you may not like it is ridiculous.

I enjoy dogfighting and still find that even with whatever perks one has there is an element of skill to actually win the game. The perks help but they aren’t everything. But even if they are, it doesn’t take away the fact that I enjoy playing. Period.

Maybe that went WAY OVER YOUR HEAD.

 

[whoknows]

I just wish people were consistent with complaining about things like this instead of giving certain games a free pass because they like them too much or the lame excuse of "it's just cosmetics".

 

[CrepeNuts]

WTF? I knew exactly what the fuss was about. And I certainly know that the micro transactions had an effect on gameplay. I never denied that. I just said I still enjoy the damn game. For you to insult my intelligence just because you may not like it is ridiculous.

I enjoy dogfighting and still find that even with whatever perks one has there is an element of skill to actually win the game. The perks help but they aren’t everything. But even if they are, it doesn’t take away the fact that I enjoy playing. Period.

Maybe that went WAY OVER YOUR HEAD.

You seemed to take my comment personally, which is fine I guess, but I was mostly referring to MrRidiculous' post on the previous page calling everyone hypocrites.

Congrats on liking the game. Just don't be a corporate apologist.

 

[awp]

* deleted *

Not worth the effort.

 

[elessar123]

I just wish people were consistent with complaining about things like this instead of giving certain games a free pass because they like them too much or the lame excuse of "it's just cosmetics".

Sorry, but there is still a difference. My Tales characters don't -have- to wear swimsuits. But a powered-up $2000 Darth Vader that can 1v20 and win in a multiplayer game is not in the same realm.

 

[affa]

I just wish people were consistent with complaining about things like this instead of giving certain games a free pass because they like them too much or the lame excuse of "it's just cosmetics".

Huh? The lame excuse of ""it's just cosmetics"?

That's like the one thing 99% of people agree is okay to have for sale / unlock, etc, because by definition it doesn't affect gameplay. You want a poop hat? Buy it. Big f'ing deal.

The issue comes into play when items for sale -aren't- cosmetics, like weapons, etc.

TLOU MP's biggest sin is putting some perks/weapons behind a paywall. Thankfully, you don't actually need any of those things to be wildly successful, there are dozens upon dozens of solid skill setups.

 

[whoknows]

Sorry, but there is still a difference. My Tales characters don't -have- to wear swimsuits. But a powered-up $2000 Darth Vader that can 1v20 and win in a multiplayer game is not in the same realm.

I'm talking more about loot boxes specifically. At least with Tales if you want your characters to wear swimsuits you can straight up buy the swimsuits. In certain other games if you want your characters to wear whatever you have to buy the chance at it. That's where the problem is. Why sell the swimsuits for $5 or whatever and give you exactly what you want when instead you can be sold the chance at what you want and still possibly (likely) not get what you want? Win-win for that company, lose-lose for the consumer.

 

[elessar123]

I'm talking more about loot boxes specifically. At least with Tales if you want your characters to wear swimsuits you can straight up buy the swimsuits. In certain other games if you want your characters to wear whatever you have to buy the chance at it. That's where the problem is. Why sell the swimsuits for $5 or whatever and give you exactly what you want when instead you can be sold the chance at what you want and still possibly (likely) not get what you want? Win-win for that company, lose-lose for the consumer.

I guess, but in a lot of those cases, it's player selling to players. Got a nice weapon in CS:Go? You can sell it. Skirt in Peanutbutter Battle Grounds? But yea, a lot of that came from costumes in F2P MMOs, like Maple Story, etc.

 

[whoknows]

I guess, but in a lot of those cases, it's player selling to players. Got a nice weapon in CS:Go? You can sell it. Skirt in Peanutbutter Battle Grounds? But yea, a lot of that came from costumes in F2P MMOs, like Maple Story, etc.

Yeah, I'm talking about more retail games where content is locked behind loot boxes, cosmetics and others. A retail game shouldn't have a f2p structure, whether the content is cosmetic or not. Cosmetics are a big deal in some games, such as ones that have regular events with cosmetics as the focus. But yeah, as I said, instead of paying $5 or whatever to get the exact piece of content you want you get to pay $5 for five chances at the content you want. Just a scummy practice that people will give a free pass to because they like the game or they *personally* don't care about the content so it's not a big deal and people who think it is are wrong.

 

[Thespyder314]

Bottom line is...cosmetics are one thing. But when 60 dollar games start employing f2p or p2w game mechanics in a ull fledged AAA games that is a huge issue and if we as gamers don't push back against it then it's only going to get worse. I think we can all agree that there is at least some enjoyment to be found in almost any game but that should not allow publishers to continue to practice shady shit.

 

[Gideon68]

FYI - I thought we got the license for Goat Simulator for watching the Game Awards Show but this is not the case. I dl'ed the game and tried to play it but it stated to renew my gold sub. Below is the answer from the General Sales and Promotions Forum:

- if you have redeemed Goat Simulator on Games with Gold you would not receive the game for the TGA MixPot. Hope this helps!

 

[Ex~]

Bottom line for me is fun.

The F2P mechanics of smartphone games are just not fun. They are full of grinding, noticeably manipulative of habit-forming tendencies, and overall just unpleasant. Many of the mechanics are specifically about making the game such a grind to unlock something that the player will pay to AVOID playing the game: no one is going to pay specifically to avoid playing a game they enjoy, so such a feature could not exist unless the game is actually being made unpleasant to play. 

 

[awp]

they *personally* don't care about the content so it's not a big deal and people who think it is are wrong.

This is the problem. You and others here are pigeonholing people that like certain games like Battlefront 2 as in one camp or another. I know I’ve never said anyone who hates the PTW aspects of the game are “wrong”. I agree with them but I still find enjoyment of the game. So that makes me “wrong” in your eyes and others here.

I pay for what I see as the return of enjoyment on a game. If I don’t think it’s worth it, I don’t buy it. I don’t play many F2P games because I hate hitting paywalls or timers or whatever other mechanism there is. I’m not hitting a paywall in BF2. I’m just having fun. And I’m certainly not defending EA.

If I’m a hypocrite for liking a game even if I don’t like certain aspects of it, so be it. Just don’t say I’m wrong when I’m not saying you or anyone else is wrong.

Bottom line for me is fun.

This.

 

[Thebacklash]

The way I see micro transactions and such..

If I buy the game itself, i'm not approving of the ptw or loot box crap.

If I BUY loot boxes.... i'm supporting that crap.

If I can't PLAY a game without buying loot boxes.. I wont play that game.

If you want to spend the money on loot boxes, go for it.

If you don't want to spend money on loot boxes, don't.

As long as the game is playable without requiring them being purchased.. It doesn't bother me that much.

Loot boxes, and PTW items are two different things though.. A blatant PTW item that *can't* be acquired in game without real currency being spent... now thats BS.

Loot boxes IMO are just paid shortcuts.

 

[Ex~]

I don't think it's particularly meaningful to insist that "everything is subjective". Yes, individuals will have different experiences, but everyone already understands that. What comes out of that is aggregate responses, which are perfectly objective facts. 

The original state of Battlefront 2 was, objectively speaking, a complete travesty, to the point where Disney called EA to chew them out for a cluster so bad they were literally threatening the worth of the Star Wars franchise. There is no subjective reality in which you could possibly defend the initial state of Battlefront 2, even if you personally enjoyed the game. Launch Battlefront 2 was, objectively speaking, one of the most disastrous release products in videogaming history. 

For an extremely large segment of people--including most people who never played Battlefront 2 in its pre-outrage state and are now enjoying the post-outrage Battlefront 2 and wondering what the fuss is about--the state Battlefront 2 was released in was absolutely NOT fun for them, because of how intrusive the non-fun F2P mechanics were.

 

[awp]

^^ well, I’m still unsure of even that. I played the game when it was EA Access with micro transactions and all. I didn’t like the system but I still enjoyed the game. Can’t just make a blanket statement that the game was “absolutely NOT fun”. I’m not saying it wasn’t bad with the F2P mechanics but it was still fun.

Again, my measure is if I get as much fun out as money I’m putting in, then I’m fine. I absolutely will not spend a dime on micro transactions to support that crap so that’s always a factor.

I’m not sure whether I would have bought BF2 if they hadn’t changed it. I may have just waited for the whole game to be part of EA Access.

That said, as I mentioned, I was not going to buy NFS Payback because it’s micro transactions amounted to a paywall when it first came out. You simply could not progress enough without extreme grinding or buying with real money. They changed it and the game is better for it.

Maybe I see all this from a different perspective too because I played both of these games as part of EA Access so I was able to make an informed decision before I put out cash.

Anyway, I hate F2P mechanics and won’t spend a dime on them so if they ever impede my enjoyment then I simply won’t buy the game. In these two cases they did not impede MY enjoyment (after the changes, especially with NFS). That’s not to say others would feel the same way and they wouldn’t be wrong if they felt that way.

 

[defpally]

The way I see micro transactions and such..

If I buy the game itself, i'm not approving of the ptw or loot box crap.

If I BUY loot boxes.... i'm supporting that crap.

If I can't PLAY a game without buying loot boxes.. I wont play that game.

If you want to spend the money on loot boxes, go for it.

If you don't want to spend money on loot boxes, don't.

As long as the game is playable without requiring them being purchased.. It doesn't bother me that much.

Loot boxes, and PTW items are two different things though.. A blatant PTW item that *can't* be acquired in game without real currency being spent... now thats BS.

Loot boxes IMO are just paid shortcuts.

Yeah, the way I see it is that if you buy the game and then do NOT spend money on loot boxes, you are actually sending a message to the publisher that you do not want them. Because they definitely track that. I'm fairly certain the Battlefront fiasco was a result of them realizing how many people forego microtransactions and they wanted to give them more teeth (instead of getting the hint) - and likely ruined the whole game for all the publishers with it. You know they are all thinking real hard about how far to go with them now they have seen there is a hard line that is not to be crossed. Battlefront 2 was a definite AAA top seller before all of this happened, and EA/DICE spiked the game hardcore.

You take a Star Wars game coming out a few weeks before a new mainline Star Wars movie that people actually seem to like and it looks really good, and turn it into an unmitigated disaster and PR nightmare for the company. And Disney actually strong arms them to undo it, which is wild given all the shit they do let licensees slap "Star Wars" on these days.

 

[runthejewels]

Yeah, I'm talking about more retail games where content is locked behind loot boxes, cosmetics and others. A retail game shouldn't have a f2p structure, whether the content is cosmetic or not. Cosmetics are a big deal in some games, such as ones that have regular events with cosmetics as the focus. But yeah, as I said, instead of paying $5 or whatever to get the exact piece of content you want you get to pay $5 for five chances at the content you want. Just a scummy practice that people will give a free pass to because they like the game or they *personally* don't care about the content so it's not a big deal and people who think it is are wrong.

If you think cosmetic items are important to gameplay, then yes, you are wrong.

 

[runthejewels]

I don't think it's particularly meaningful to insist that "everything is subjective". Yes, individuals will have different experiences, but everyone already understands that. What comes out of that is aggregate responses, which are perfectly objective facts.

The original state of Battlefront 2 was, objectively speaking, a complete travesty, to the point where Disney called EA to chew them out for a cluster so bad they were literally threatening the worth of the Star Wars franchise. There is no subjective reality in which you could possibly defend the initial state of Battlefront 2, even if you personally enjoyed the game. Launch Battlefront 2 was, objectively speaking, one of the most disastrous release products in videogaming history.

For an extremely large segment of people--including most people who never played Battlefront 2 in its pre-outrage state and are now enjoying the post-outrage Battlefront 2 and wondering what the fuss is about--the state Battlefront 2 was released in was absolutely NOT fun for them, because of how intrusive the non-fun F2P mechanics were.

I’m not sure you know what objective means.

 

[CrepeNuts]

If you think cosmetic items are important to gameplay, then yes, you are wrong.

https://youtu.be/Ce5CDrq4dGg

 

[Thebacklash]

https://youtu.be/Ce5CDrq4dGg

that whole video "I WANT TO LOOK COOL, I WANT TO STAND OUT!"

or in other words, you just inadvertently defended runthejewels comment.

Cosmetics dont CHANGE the gameplay. Running around with a tux on vs running around with a fruit stripe mish mash of colors on your gear... does nothing for the actual gameplay. Sure you look like shit.. but you didn't spend $$.

He attacks Destiny 2 for the shaders, which I think was a dumb move... but playing Destiny 2, you get Shaders free also.. no need to purchase them, unless you want some super rare "cool" color. which again, does not effect the actual game... just YOUR mind. (or others how they view you, in that case F em)

 

[TheKbob]

Cosmetics are part of the game for some of us.  I spend hours in character creators, tons of times dyeing crap in D3, and will choose fashionable armor over the best stats in RPGs. 

You might disagree with it, but the video part of "Video Games" is half the battle.  Aesthetics sell titles and the attachment to characters is totally what Blizzard is selling with something like Overwatch.  That's why it's got such a diverse cast and fosters the meta threads of "head canon" in the community and going so far as making skins based upon it.  The inverse is true in that they've received several backlashes against perceived slights against characters, their lore, or personal/cultural identities with some skins.

The skin lootboxes in Blizzard are also totally the same crap that keeps people in casinos; the free food, free booze, extra services, etc. that keep player engagement up.  Along with the actual in game mechanics and the possibility of them effecting matchmaking thanks to Acti-Blizz's patents this year, it adds up to a layer of scum that cannot be glossed over with "it's just cosmetics, it doesn't matter" with the implied "to me" at the end.

If it didn't matter, then it wouldn't be a $1.4B+ franchise in a little over one year.

 

[midloo]

I like loot box systems.  I think they're fun when done well.  I also wouldn't ever spend actual money on them. 

 

[CrepeNuts]

that whole video "I WANT TO LOOK COOL, I WANT TO STAND OUT!"

or in other words, you just inadvertently defended runthejewels comment.

Cosmetics dont CHANGE the gameplay. Running around with a tux on vs running around with a fruit stripe mish mash of colors on your gear... does nothing for the actual gameplay. Sure you look like shit.. but you didn't spend $$.

He attacks Destiny 2 for the shaders, which I think was a dumb move... but playing Destiny 2, you get Shaders free also.. no need to purchase them, unless you want some super rare "cool" color. which again, does not effect the actual game... just YOUR mind. (or others how they view you, in that case F em)

I don't think you actually watched the video.

 

[Thebacklash]

I don't think you actually watched the video.

6:00 nope, didnt watch it.

 

[Thebacklash]

Cosmetics are part of the game for some of us. I spend hours in character creators, tons of times dyeing crap in D3, and will choose fashionable armor over the best stats in RPGs.

Do you not see you are actually proving the point of those you argue against?...

Anyway, spend your money... IDC.

I won't. I stand by my previous post, i'll buy a game if it interests me, will not pay for loot boxes. If the game that interests me has loot boxes.. as long as it doesn't effect GAMEPLAY i don't care.

Cosmetics don't make the game.

 

[yourmomsnewboyfriend]

You guys enjoying Battlefront 2 need to also remember that grinding and loot boxes were toned down massively because of the outcry. All the initial fuel for it was not what you're playing. I would even go as far to say that you're able to enjoy it now BECAUSE of the outcry.

I know exactly what the “outcry” was and what the game was. What I’m bringing forward is the idea of this being a slippery slope that began years ago with the things I mentioned like charging for 8kb dlc unlocked on disc and other pay to improve mechanics. So with this game they took the next step and everyone who just realized what was at the end of their nose started crying while old school gamers like myself kind of saw it coming. You paid and you paid for online passes, digital costumes, locked disc dlc and nba shit and now you’re shocked that someone went further. Pretty damn funny to me and hypocritical to not cry foul back when EA charged to play a game online, and so on to the level that all that shit stopped back then. Hell this gen of gamers expects their consoles and games to not work for hours when buying them because of fat updates and lost storage. Whole lot of outrageous things going on that continue to get worse (Xbox one x updates and storage issues) that with next gen will just cause a big uproar when it goes farther. Just watch.

It’s a fun game. As I’ve said before, more Star Wars fun and an enjoyable experience. Plus online games aplenty to jump into. Highly recommend it.

 

[affa]

Am I the only person who actually is quite happy BF2 released like it did?   We're not going to see triple A games try that shit again anytime soon.  

Lootboxes are a terrible mechanic, even for cosmetics - remove the gambling, just let me [not] buy each item.

Mobile has brought us a wealth of terrible mechanics [timers, premium currencies, loot boxes, grind gates, etc] that hopefully remain in the freemium world.  

I don't totally agree with the concept of 'if you don't like them, just don't buy them' because it skips over the issue that these mechanics inherently lead to bad game design - that is, in order to encourage people to buy lootboxes/premium currency/etc, you need to create grind gates where you intentionally frustrate players into buying a way to powerup.  If you design a game well, and carefully balance everything for a natural feeling progression, nobody would ever buy these powerups.

Timers, personally, are my least favorite mechanic.   They totally feed into addiction based behavior, where you ignore everything else to make sure you start that next timer as soon as the last one finishes, etc.  I now delete any games with them on sight.

 

[Deader2818]

I 100% have no issue with how Overwatch is handled. Id rather have the option to buy loot boxes and get free content than have no option to buy loot boxes and have to pay for a season pass.