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oh it's gonna be the norm

once they get away with something once without hurting profits

Hello norm

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.Beowulf said:
oh it's gonna be the norm

once they get away with something once without hurting profits

Hello norm
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You know it will be great for profits because they'll probably make it at the same cost as the current model while selling it at a higher price and getting all us suckers to buy it again for no reason while still selling the original model at a lower production cost. They probably hired away whoever it was that came up with the DSi and New 3DS from Nintendo.

 
I swear, I just don't understand the negative reaction around this concept of the PS4K.

There would be absolutely no need for segregation from the PS4.  It's like upgrading your PC components.  Your old games aren't suddenly unplayable.  You just might be able to set the graphics higher.

Games right now are already developed to look better than the console hardware allows.  Have you guys ever seen a comparison between the PC and console versions of modern games?  This upgrade would basically just mean instead of playing the game on "medium" settings, we'd be playing them on "high" settings.

And at this point, there probably wouldn't even be a need to charge more than $400 for the thing.  It's a slight upgrade of a 3 year old machine, that wasn't even running top of the line hardware at the time.  The PS4K could essentially just replace the vanilla version, and become the standard.

And why would anyone who already has a PS4 feel slighted by this?  If you're a super graphics whore, then yay, you can spend $400 (less whatever you get for trade-in) to get better graphics.  Don't care about graphics?  Then yay, you can carry on like normal, and keep enjoying your PS4.

My ONE concern about the thing, is that it might be the only way to play PS VR games well.  For all we know, all the demo machines have been PS4K's, and VR games run at half the framerate on current PS4's, or something.  (I wouldn't be surprised, considering the system requirements for the Oculus and Vive.)  As someone who already preordered a PS VR, but wouldn't want to spend the money on a PS4K right away, that would be reason for me to cancel my preorder.

In any case, I think a lot of the reaction to this rumor has been way overblown.  I see it as a way for Sony to really edge even further ahead of Microsoft this generation, by being able to show visibly superior graphics on the PS4K versus the Xbox One.

 
Garfitor said:
I swear, I just don't understand the negative reaction around this concept of the PS4K.

In any case, I think a lot of the reaction to this rumor has been way overblown. I see it as a way for Sony to really edge even further ahead of Microsoft this generation, by being able to show visibly superior graphics on the PS4K versus the Xbox One.
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just wait, eventually the games will stop working with earlier versions of the ps4. oh, they might run, with frame rate drops and graphical artifacts and reduced draw lines. games are constantly released broken as it is now, developers are going to have to keep both versions running smooth now?

 
I could see some situations with a shooter where they add fog to the regular PS4 version or some of the removed effects make it easier to see something. Like a forest level with less foliage. 

 
Garfitor said:
I swear, I just don't understand the negative reaction around this concept of the PS4K.
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I understand your points but I believe you may be looking at it incorrectly. Is it akin to "upgrading your pc components"? Absolutely. However, these are consoles. People purchased consoles, not PCs. There is a traditional and entrenched understanding of certain fundamental differences between the PC and Console world and I think many people see the need not to worry about upgrading your components as one of those differences.

People have conformed to upgrading their hard drives, but they don't actually need to. They could just manage their storage differently. Again, it's not that your points are without merit, it's just that they overlook the dichotomy of thinking between console and pc gamers.

 
gamers should talk with their wallets

they will spend months gossiping/crying/yelling/complaining/threatening/etc/etc but they never speak with their wallets

I don't have a dog in the fight as I think this is my last generation that I'll participate in so it doesn't much matter to me on a personal level but I think gamers really need to learn how to add some bite to their bark when they are unhappy with practices by the companies.

 
I'm hoping for a special picked PlayStation Plus section today next to the GTA sale. There's suppose to be a 2 hour downtime today, not sure when EST is going to be.
 
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Garfitor said:
I swear, I just don't understand the negative reaction around this concept of the PS4K.

There would be absolutely no need for segregation from the PS4. It's like upgrading your PC components. Your old games aren't suddenly unplayable. You just might be able to set the graphics higher.
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You understand that traditionally the whole point of a dedicated gaming box under your tv was because it wasnt a pc? Right? Not upgrading your parts is considered a pri by many people. Not having to worry about setting or whether your game runs well was part of the agreement. The whole point of console gaming was to simplify and make it easier for people to get in to.

This is a coming shift in the console cycle. We are moving away from that. It could be good and it could be bad. These are usually tipping points. If handled well no one will notice. We'll see.

I think one thing a lot of enthusiast gamers forget is that most people don't want to upgrade their pc or upgrade tech every 2-3 years. You want to buy a set top box and expect a good 5-6 years of use out of it. This new model disincentives that mentality.

It may become the new norm, but I have reservations. Honestly I will just game more on my PC in the future as if forced obsolescence is coming faster in console cycles I would rather have more control of it. A majority of people won't be the same way.
 
Tebunker said:
You understand that traditionally the whole point of a dedicated gaming box under your tv was because it wasnt a pc? Right? Not upgrading your parts is considered a pri by many people. Not having to worry about setting or whether your game runs well was part of the agreement. The whole point of console gaming was to simplify and make it easier for people to get in to.

This is a coming shift in the console cycle. We are moving away from that. It could be good and it could be bad. These are usually tipping points. If handled well no one will notice. We'll see.

I think one thing a lot of enthusiast gamers forget is that most people don't want to upgrade their pc or upgrade tech every 2-3 years. You want to buy a set top box and expect a good 5-6 years of use out of it. This new model disincentives that mentality.

It may become the new norm, but I have reservations. Honestly I will just game more on my PC in the future as if forced obsolescence is coming faster in console cycles I would rather have more control of it. A majority of people won't be the same way.
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I appreciate your level headed tone here, but I do want to point out that this is not an upgrade. This is simply a replacement box. And this is not like a PC because I don't have to figure out if the new RAM will fit into my motherboard and the drivers will play nice with my graphics card, etc. It's still a plug and play solution that Sony is offering and that is why I like console gaming. I don't choose console gaming to save money on upgrades. I think Sony is betting that a lot of console gamers also choose consoles for convenience and not just to save money and bet that those same people won't mind buying better stuff more often if it's easy to plug in and go.

That being said, there's a huge potential for Sony to screw this up on multiple levels if they haven't planned it out correctly or stop enforcing the supposed rules. But every console owner has a great potential to be screwed over by the console maker by them changing the plans. I'm sure many WiiU owners thought they were going to get more use out of their console than they did.

But hey, you guys should have faith that Sony has thought this through and planned ahead. After all, I hear we might be able to change our PSN names later this year...

 
WNYX585AM said:
stuff you said that agrees with me butmaybe you missed something
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You do realize that I was responding to the guy above that said it was like a pc upgrade and, maybe I did it poorly, I said it wasn't becuse people, like you, like having a closed system.

I am one of the ones who thinks they'll fuck this up royally.
 
.Beowulf said:
gamers should talk with their wallets

they will spend months gossiping/crying/yelling/complaining/threatening/etc/etc but they never speak with their wallets

I don't have a dog in the fight as I think this is my last generation that I'll participate in so it doesn't much matter to me on a personal level but I think gamers really need to learn how to add some bite to their bark when they are unhappy with practices by the companies.
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This; this so much.

As customers we are a company's direct lifeline. If we want to see change, the most effective measure is to show that we won't support them until they do.

I've started to see the value of this and walk the walk, choosing not to buy certain things that I really want because of a decision(s) the company made regarding the product that I strongly disagree with. I just wish other people would do the same it they feel strongly enough, because things would change pretty fast.
 
keyblader1985 said:
This; this so much.

As customers we are a company's direct lifeline. If we want to see change, the most effective measure is to show that we won't support them until they do.

I've started to see the value of this and walk the walk, choosing not to buy certain things that I really want because of a decision(s) the company made regarding the product that I strongly disagree with. I just wish other people would do the same it they feel strongly enough, because things would change pretty fast.
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The confusion here is that the general public doesn't believe in anything as strongly as the internet would lead you to think.

 
cancerman1120 said:
So am I allowed to be upset that less than a year after buying a 3 year old console Sony has decided to release new one with better specs? I feel like it is ok to be a little miffed about this.
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EldritchOnRye said:
This has happened with every console for ages now. Every time slim or whatever they call it iteration is a more powerful version relative to its previous dieset that the manufacturer has used to pass the savings on to themselves. Considering it's very unlikely that games will become segregated even if the next PS4 supports 4K video at least Sony's making the console better and not just more profitable for them to make.
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well unless your young, i have been burned about having to get a new console right away while my friends just wait for a limited edition one or for the newer version to come out, since it generally doesnt have games right at the start what is the point plus you always just buy the games if you want, i waited a couple of years for the one to come out with the halo editon, still havent got a ps4 and now that this is coming, will still wait till their is a limited edition console to come out, i do have 4-5 games already and you'll need to get a new one if you want to use the vr. i have plenty of backlog so what is the hurry, unless its rare just wait and it will save you alot of headache i was pissed when i got a original 3ds only to not only pay more but then they release a 2ds which is cheaper, that was enough of having to have a system right away.

 
*sigh* I'm starting to think this PS4K concept might end up being a good idea sunk by consumer ignorance.

ritchardf said:
just wait, eventually the games will stop working with earlier versions of the ps4. oh, they might run, with frame rate drops and graphical artifacts and reduced draw lines. games are constantly released broken as it is now, developers are going to have to keep both versions running smooth now?
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Why would that happen, though? This past January my wife and I built her a gaming rig, and it has a GTX 970 in it. It can run Assassin's Creed Syndicate at High graphical settings, but not Best. If it had a GTX 980 in it, it could probably run it at Best. But it still runs fine, better than the console version, frankly. It would be the same with a PS4K. PS4's would keep running the scaled down versions we get today, and PS4K's would run games at higher graphical settings.

Tebunker said:
You understand that traditionally the whole point of a dedicated gaming box under your tv was because it wasnt a pc? Right? Not upgrading your parts is considered a pri by many people. Not having to worry about setting or whether your game runs well was part of the agreement. The whole point of console gaming was to simplify and make it easier for people to get in to.

This is a coming shift in the console cycle. We are moving away from that. It could be good and it could be bad. These are usually tipping points. If handled well no one will notice. We'll see.

I think one thing a lot of enthusiast gamers forget is that most people don't want to upgrade their pc or upgrade tech every 2-3 years. You want to buy a set top box and expect a good 5-6 years of use out of it. This new model disincentives that mentality.

It may become the new norm, but I have reservations. Honestly I will just game more on my PC in the future as if forced obsolescence is coming faster in console cycles I would rather have more control of it. A majority of people won't be the same way.
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To your first point, that wouldn't change. At all. There's no swapping of components, and the system would auto-detect which machine you have, and adjust settings accordingly. Games on PC already do this. And to the concept of obsolescence, I don't understand how the old machine becomes obsolete. It still plays all the same games.

IDK, time will tell, I suppose. It just seems all the concerns have no basis in how computers actually work.

 
WNYX585AM said:
The confusion here is that the general public doesn't believe in anything as strongly as the internet would lead you to think.
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True. I did say if they feel strongly enough though; we might be all of even half of their customers, but if we worked together we could certainly make a difference.
 
keyblader1985 said:
This; this so much.

As customers we are a company's direct lifeline. If we want to see change, the most effective measure is to show that we won't support them until they do.

I've started to see the value of this and walk the walk, choosing not to buy certain things that I really want because of a decision(s) the company made regarding the product that I strongly disagree with. I just wish other people would do the same it they feel strongly enough, because things would change pretty fast.
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I saw the value of the PS4 upgrade the moment it was announced, and I would easily buy it Day One. I'm sure there will be generous trade-in values from many retailers when this releases, so what's the big deal? If you don't like it, then don't buy it, no loss either way.
 
I came in for PSN deals but got stuck on the PS4k talks.

I don't know why people are tripping about frame rates and graphic differences. Considering how many "regular" PS4 consoles have been sold, majority of the Publishers are going to focus more on the "base" game and just tweak the "neo" game due to Sony requirements. It's business and they aren't stupid enough to alienate the mass "base" players. Especially with the internet the way it is now. One whiff of a badly constructed "base" game in comparison to the "neo" game will probably cause it to flop on principle. 

I only seeing this affect more the VR players. You may or may not get the shaft if you plan on getting on that VR life. 

 
The PS4K might not be a bad idea. I just don't see it taking off. I realize 4K TVs are more prevalent now, but it's still IMO, a technology that most people will wait until they need to buy a new TV -- not a must have now (again for most people).

Just like the majority of people took a while to come around to Blu-Ray. I just don't see many people anxious to buy a whole new console for it.
 
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I think the time to get back on topic. Can't believe no one mentioned that the prices are live. $38.99 for GTA V. Hmmmmm. Should I or shouldn't I......
 
BTW if anyone would rather have Pang Adventures on the go, it's out on iOS. It's also $7 less than the PS4/X1 versions. And I don't think there's any difference between them (unless you want to play couch co-op).
 
awp said:
The PS4K might not be a bad idea. I just don't see it taking off. I realize 4K TVs are more prevalent now, but it's still IMO, a technology that most people will wait until they need to buy a new TV -- not a must have now (again for most people).

Just like the majority of people took a while to come around to Blu-Ray. I just don't see many people anxious to buy a whole new console for it.
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Here's the thing, though - you probably won't need 4K to get the benefits of this new PS4. If those new GPU specs are real, it's not going to be the greatest 4K GPU anyway. But at 1080p, that GPU is going to kick some serious ass. Imagine rock-solid 60 FPS in every title with plenty of graphical effects and great draw distances. I'm more interested in that than in running at 4K.

 
Gedemer said:
Lol. Games still won't be 60fps at 1080p.
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33% CPU and 2x GPU increase and you don't think it will be able to handle this? I think we should wait for the thing to be in the wild before making such claims.


Vigilante said:
I'm glad this is the last franchise "sale" week, as they've pretty much all sucked. Hopefully next week will have good Golden Week sales.
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Could not agree more.. this has been the worst 2 months of sales in as long as I can remember on PSN.. I forgot about the golden week sale.. hope it's good this year.

 
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RiPPn said:
33% CPU and 2x GPU increase and you don't think it will be able to handle this? I think we should wait for the thing to be in the wild before making such claims.





Could not agree more.. this has been the worst 2 months of sales in as long as I can remember on PSN.. I forgot about the golden week sale.. hope it's good this year.
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Devs will make games suck just so they can make it multiplat with xboxonefail. Consoles also promised 60fps before this gen. I don't believe anything Sony or MSoft says. Biggest scam artists.

I'll believe it when I see it. Hope they make all games 60fps and 1080p. Then I could stop buying games on PC over console solely for them running better on it.
 
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I'm in for the trilogy which is what I wanted

I'll wait till after friday to buy anything to see what shows up on the (probably) flash sale

 
PS4K sounds more like not having to release a separate enhanced edition of Last of Us / Tomb Raider / etc. Get one, and it'll be the "enhanced" version if you can handle it, or the "console peasant" version if you can't.

I like the idea, as long as it doesn't use a lot more power / generate a lot more heat / have a shorter life / never have exclusives.

I doubt it'll be a lot more work for developers who develop for the PC anyways, cause it'd probably be similar to the way PC handle graphic settings. For games that don't require it, they'll probably not waste money adding anything for the most part.

 
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I was a bit excited to see the House of the Dead games on sale, but at just 30% off I'll pass.

I need to play some more of the first Danganronpa. There's a chance some of the series will be part of a golden week sale, and I want to see how much I'll want to continue with the games. Where I left off did seem like a fun part.

 
Also just to chime in on the PS4K talk...it scares me. Sony is gonna make devlopers supposedly not segregate their games. Ha yeah ok gl on that developers are lazy as shit i garuntee you with the ps4k situation you will start getting games with leftout features or features that wont run on normal ps4s
 
Obviously you wouldn't buy something if you weren't interested in the first place, and if you don't have any problems with the company or the product then you're free to do whatever you want.

I'm talking about if there's something specific that you don't like; for example, the whole censorship scene. If a company does something you feel was harmful (or needless at best), then a good way to incite change is to let them know that you won't support such things.
 
I don't have an opinion on the PS4K, because I don't have a PS4 at all.

Looking at it logically, one could extend my argument to just not any products at all from a certain company if you don't agree with their methods. But I don't think I could do that. And really I'll do whatever I can to keep the Vita alive at this point.
 
BanditThief said:
Most people don't even have 4k tvs yet and use their tv speakers! BARF! So why you trippin?
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I don't think people understand.

The PS4K nickname is ONLY for the dashboard (likely) and 4K Movies/Media. Games will not run at 4K. What will happen is Sony will probably give the consoles assign codes. If it's an original PS4 game (assign PS4.1 call), it will make a call for the console to only use what the current PS4 has. Developers are free to go back and patch their old games to support the new hardware (make an assign PS4.2). Thus backward compatibility is no issue with the new specs.

40 Million people (approx) have MADE the PS4 the market leader. Allowing Sony to create this upgraded machine. I have little faith that sony won't go the way of the Vita on the OG PS4. We still get plenty of new and cross play vita games, but Sony rarely mentions it. I believe as others have stated, content will be shown on the PS4K in all marketing materials.

EDIT: Sorry but the main point I'm making is, the PS4K will be a much improved 1080P gaming console, but it's not powerful enough to play games at 4K. This makes it irrelevant if you have or don't have a 4K TV for PS4 gaming.

 
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I don't think people understand.

The PS4K nickname is ONLY for the dashboard (likely) and 4K Movies/Media. Games will not run at 4K. What will happen is Sony will probably give the consoles assign codes. If it's an original PS4 game (assign PS4.1 call), it will make a call for the console to only use what the current PS4 has. Developers are free to go back and patch their old games to support the new hardware (make an assign PS4.2). Thus backward compatibility is no issue with the new specs.

40 Million people (approx) have MADE the PS4 the market leader. Allowing Sony to create this upgraded machine. I have little faith that sony won't go the way of the Vita on the OG PS4. We still get plenty of new and cross play vita games, but Sony rarely mentions it. I believe as others have stated, content will be shown on the PS4K in all marketing materials.

EDIT: Sorry but the main point I'm making is, the PS4K will be a much improved 1080P gaming console, but it's not powerful enough to play games at 4K. This makes it irrelevant if you have or don't have a 4K TV for PS4 gaming.
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Good summary although I think the hope is that it will upscale to 4K.

 
Does anyone have any experience with the Blues and Bullets - ep. 1 & 2 Bundle? I'd never even heard of this series before this weeks sales. It seems like a mix of the wolf among us and LA Nior.

I'd love to hear if anyone has played it, it's on sale for $7.19 .

 
kill3r7 said:
Good summary although I think the hope is that it will upscale to 4K.
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I'm sorry your right, I do think it will have a native upscaler, if it was up to the TV manufactures, your viewing experience would be inconsistent. I think Sony has very intelligent employees who will know game/platform development. I'm just some dim joe on the internet, lol.

 
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