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July's PS+ Games - Ends 8/2

:ps3: Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood

:ps3: Fat Princess

:ps4: Furi

:vita: Oreshika: Tainted Bloodlines

:ps4: Paragon - PS+ Starter Pack

:psp: Prince of Persia: Revelation

:ps4: Saints Row: Gat out of Hell

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:ps4:  :ps3:  :vita: Back to Bed Game & Dynamic Theme Bundle - $8.99 - 40% Off - $5.99 - 60% Off - Ends 7/18

:ps4: :vita: Color Guardians - $5.99 - 60% Off - $4.49 - 70% Off - Ends 7/29

:ps4:  :vita: Corridor Z - $5.99 - 25% Off - Ends 7/19

:ps4:  :ps3:  :vita: CounterSpy - $7.49 - 50% Off - $5.99 - 60% Off - Ends 7/19 N

:ps4: :vita: Day of the Tentacle Remastered - $10.04 - 33% Off - Ends 7/22 N

:ps4:  :ps3:  :vita: Hohokum - $7.49 - 50% Off - $5.99 - 60% Off - Ends 7/19 N
:ps4:  :ps3: Journey - $7.49 - 50% Off - $5.99 - 60% Off - Ends 7/19 N
:ps4:  :vita: Last Wings - $7.19 - 10% Off - Ends 8/12 N

:ps4:   :ps3:   :vita: Loot Strategy-Packed Bundle - $14.99 - 40% Off - $9.99 - 60% Off - Ends 7/18 [customspoiler=Includes]Back to Bed for PS4/PS3/Vita, Q*Bert: Rebooted for PS4/PS3/Vita, and Whispering Willows for PS4/Vita.[/customspoiler]

:ps4:  :vita: PixelJunk Shooter Ultimate - $11.99 - 20% Off

:ps4:  :ps3:  :vita: Q*Bert: Rebooted - $7.49 - 25% Off - $5.99 - 40% Off - Ends 7/18

:ps4:  :ps3:  :vita: Rogue Legacy - $8.49 - 50% Off - $6.79 - 60% Off - Ends 7/19 N
:ps4:  :ps3:  :vita: Sound Shapes - $4.99 - 50% Off - $3.99 - 60% Off - Ends 7/19 N
:ps4:  :ps3:  :vita: Sound Shapes - Add-on Bundle - $4.99 - 50% Off - $3.99 - 60% Off - Ends 7/19 N

:ps3:  :vita: Stealth Inc: A Clone in the Dark - $3.49 - 65% Off - $2.49 - 75% Off - Ends 7/19 N

:ps4:  :ps3:  :vita: The Swapper - $5.24 - 65% Off - $3.74 - 75% Off - Ends 7/19 N
:ps4:  :vita: Type:Rider - $7.19 - 10% Off - Ends 7/26 N

:ps4: :vita: Velocibox - $8.74 - 30% Off - $6.24 - 50% Off - Ends 7/18 N

:ps4:  :ps3:  :vita: Whispering Willows Game and Theme - $8.74 - 30% Off - $6.24 - 50% Off - Ends 7/18

 
PS4

Attacking Zegata - $5.00 - 50% Off

The Banner Saga - $14.99 - 25% Off - Ends 7/19

The Banner Saga Complete Pack - $29.99 - 25% Off - $27.99 - 30% Off - Ends 7/19

The Banner Saga 2 - $17.99 - 10% Off - Ends 7/19

Daydreamer: Awakened Edition - $7.99 - 20% Off - Ends 7/19 N

Driveclub - $7.49 - 63% Off
Driveclub PlayStation Plus Edition & Season Pass Bundle - $19.99 - 69% Off

Electronic Super Joy - $6.99 - 30% Off - Ends 9/20

Everybody’s Gone to the Rapture - $9.99 - 50% Off - $7.99 - 60% Off - Ends 7/19 N

Fluster Cluck - $4.99 - 50% Off - $1.99 - 80% Off - Ends 7/18

Galak-Z - $9.99 - 50% Off - $7.99 - 60% Off - Ends 7/19 N

Ghostbuster Ultimate Game and Movie Bundle - $58.49 - 10% Off - Ends 11/15

The Last Tinker: City of Colors - $8.99 - 40% Off - $7.49 - 50% Off - Ends 7/18

Lost Sea - $13.49 - 10% Off - Ends 7/19

Loud on Planet X - $3.99 - 50% Off - Ends 8/2 N

Masquerade: The Baubles of Doom - $4.94 - 67% Off - Ends 8/5

MilitAnt - $7.99 - 20% Off - Ends 7/26 N
N++ - $9.99 - 50% Off - $7.99 - 60% Off - Ends 7/19 N

Paragon Challenger Founder's Pack - $47.99 - 20% Off - Ends 8/2

Paragon Master Founder's Pack - $79.99 - 20% Off - Ends 8/2

Push Me Pull You - $13.49 - 10% Off - Ends 7/18 N

Randal's Monday - $6.99 - 50% Off - $5.59 - 60% Off - Ends 7/25 N

Score Rush Extended - $9.59 - 20% Off - $8.39 - 30% Off - Ends 11/15

Soul Axiom - $13.99 - 30% Off - Ends 7/26

Super Mutant Alien Assault - $7.99 - 20% Off - Ends 7/18 N

PS3

DeathSpank: The Baconing - $7.49 - 50% Off - Ends 7/19 N
Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds Complete Collection - $19.99 - 20% Off - Move Compatible


Master Reboot - $11.24 - 25% Off - $9.74 - 35% Off - Ends 7/29
 

PS2 Classics - PS3 Only

N/A
Vita- PS TV Compatibility

Boss! - $1.99 - 60% Off - $1.49 - 70% Off - Ends 7/29

Gravity Badgers - $0.59 - 90% Off - Ends 7/29

HTR+ Slot Car Simulation - $7.99 - 20% Off

Super Blackout - $1.99 - 60% Off - $1.49 - 70% Off - Ends 7/19 - CAG Made N

PSP - Vita and PS TV Compatibility

N/A

PS1 Classics - PS3/PSP Compatible - Vita and PS TV Compatibility

N/A

Minis - PS3/PSP Compatible - Vita and PS TV Compatibility

N/A

PS4 Add-ons
 

DC Universe Online

Dead or Alive 5 Last Round

Driveclub

Electronic Super Joy

Kitten Squad

Neverwinter

Pirates: Treasure Hunters

PlanetSide 2

Warframe


PS3 Add-ons

Ace Combat Infinity

Dead or Alive 5 Last Round: Core Fighters


Vita Add-ons
 

My Singing Monsters

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$40 for The Witness. I can see why there is so much rampant piracy going on for the game. I just don't value puzzle games that highly. Maybe if it gets to $5 or something, but I will just stay away for now.

 
legendarydogs said:
$40 for The Witness. I can see why there is so much rampant piracy going on for the game. I just don't value puzzle games that highly. Maybe if it gets to $5 or something, but I will just stay away for now.
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It's totally fine for you to stay away from it if it's not the genre for you.

It's totally not fine for people to be illegally downloading it.

 
Pheran said:
That is why I never considered buying one. It's memory stick all over again and I won't support that behavior.
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WORSE
Memory sticks were at the very least of wider use, because of which we had cheaper PNY and SANDISK alternatives.

Vita Memory is proprietary only to the Vita and are still $50 for the 16gb (was on Sale new years for $18)

 
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Tomb Raider DE PS4 and Sleeping Dogs DE PS4 can be traded into GS during the 50% trade bump promo for more than it costs to get them digitally if people want to shift over to digital on those. They both get $14.40 after the 50% bump and PUR Pro.

Murdered Soul Suspect gets you $8 after the 50% bump and PUR Pro, so it's free with some pocket change back.

 
tylerh1701 said:
It's totally fine for you to stay away from it if it's not the genre for you.

It's totally not fine for people to be illegally downloading it.
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I'm not saying they should do it, but I can see their justification would be similar to mine if I did it. $40 for a puzzle game -> sticker shock -> well I guess I will just pirate it for now and maybe buy it when it is cheaper

I don't have a problem with piracy like a lot of people do. I actually find it hilarious when publishers force extreme measures of online DRM that force the people who buy it to have a worse experience than people who pirated it.

But this looks like one guy or a small team or something who did this so supporting him is the right thing to do.

 
legendarydogs said:
I'm not saying they should do it, but I can see their justification would be similar to mine if I did it. $40 for a puzzle game -> sticker shock -> well I guess I will just pirate it for now and maybe buy it when it is cheaper
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I can't wait for someone to steal your brand new car one day and come back 3 years later and pay you the depreciated value.

 
https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Blow/status/693202734703472640

I don't see any justification for pirating a game because you want it so bad but think the price is too high. You either wait or don't play it at all.

We need to get past the point where a game's value is solely based on whether it's funded or published by a major multi-national corporation, but instead base it on actual quality and quantity of content.

 
FriskyTanuki said:
https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Blow/status/693202734703472640

I don't see any justification for pirating a game because you want it so bad but think the price is too high. You either wait or don't play it at all.

We need to get past the point where a game's value is solely based on whether it's funded or published by a major multi-national corporation, but instead base it on actual quality and quantity of content.
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I have less of an issue if people are playing roms of classic games that you can't get new anymore, especially if you own it and are just too lazy to hook everything up. But this is just sad. Like you said either buy the game or wait until you can afford it. A shame really.
 
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I have pretty questionable morals/ethics but people who try and defend pirating are delusional. The game is brand new, if it's too expensive wait for a sale. Your parents must be real pieces of trash to have instilled values that make you think outright stealing isn't wrong.

 
U BE DA MAN said:
Here's the PS Plus games for February

Helldivers - PS4/PS3/Vita
Nom Nom Galaxy - PS4
Grid Autosport - PS3
Persona 4 Arena Ultimax - PS3
Nova 111 - PS3/PS4/Vita
Lemmings Touch - Vita

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/01/27/ps-plus-free-games-for-february-2016/
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I'm extremely late to this news and just barely finding out but I really like the month.

I have :ps4: Helldivers on disc and I'll stay with that since it has all the dlc which would be $52 worth that I'd have to buy for the digital. Would have definitely took it GS for $19.20 if wasn't so much and went with the ps+ version. No biggie though.

I really wanted Nom Nom when it was on sale not too long ago but passed since I was a few cents short and didn't want to buy a code just for that so that's cool.

Grid Autosport is something I've wanted since I've played Grid 1 & 2 and liked them. Persona 4 AU is another game I kept passing on even though I wanted it so glad to have that. Don't know about the other two but they look interesting. Overall good month.

 
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reaperztoll said:
I have pretty questionable morals/ethics but people who try and defend pirating are delusional. The game is brand new, if it's too expensive wait for a sale. Your parents must be real pieces of trash to have instilled values that make you think outright stealing isn't wrong.
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I don't pirate, and in fact, own thousands of games I'll never play, but it's not 'stealing' in the traditional sense because no copy is lost. The reason we settled on calling it 'piracy' is because words like 'stealing' didn't properly apply.

Generally speaking, the majority of pirates I've known are fine folks and simply view the ethics of the situation differently from you. First off, this was generally back when pc games were quite expensive [no steam! no digital] and often came with various offensive DRM solutions that could make the game qualitatively 'worse' than the pirated version [longer load times, worse compatibility, jumping through mad hoops, etc]. Stores generally had terrible return policies. So people did pirate to try a game out, and many of them did buy the game if they liked it. Others stockpiled backlog [like we do now with bundles and sales] and never got around to trying them - it wasn't so much stealing as collecting unused data.

Ultimately, it also depends on how one feels about IP law. Not everyone agrees with how that is, should, or could be implemented. It's easy to say 'oh, well, if you don't want to pay for the game, don't play it', but taken to an extreme, that same line of thinking keeps art in the hands of the rich. We live firmly in a society that generally accepts that as not just fact, but 'morality'. But it's certainly not the only way of thinking, and there are plenty who find the concept of keeping something infinitely reproducible priced as a luxury inherently unethical to begin with. And sure, we can just say 'they created it, they get to decide!' but that spins us right back into the IP debate.

I'm not trying to put forth a specific opinion here -- mine, basically, is if you can afford to, support it -- but more to point out it's not as simple as you make it. Plenty of people disagree about what the morals and ethics are in most matters, this included.

 
elessar123 said:
Yea, that works so well. Let's let everyone break any law they don't agree with. See how that turns out.
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Following every law even if we don't agree with it wouldn't turn out well either. I didn't cede my free will to the government, thanks. It's fine if you want to equate law with morality, but I think that's authoritarian hogwash. I don't let my morality sway to the wind of whatever a bunch of legislators decided upon this year [or hundreds of years ago]. Is the morality of, say, abortion dependent on current law? Should a woman break the law to get one if she needs to and it's currently illegal? Homosexuality? Speed limits? C'mon. We are a nation of law breakers. Good thing, too. We're also a nation built on it, from the Revolution through Prohibition and Civil Rights.

 
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We all know that the way to get back at the government for IP laws you perceive to be bad is to pirate games based on "new IPs" from smaller developers. There are better places to discuss that to its fullest, so it's best that we move on.

Finally got around to playing Tiny Troopers, which is a port of a mobile that I assume controlled poorly and they didn't fix that when they brought it to a platform with a good controller. It does that terrible mobile thing where the game plays poorly until you earn enough money to upgrade your gun's stats to eventually get it to a point where it might control well. Along the way, it's a boring modern military-based, dual-stick shooter with levels that may only last for a minute or two and it all moves at a slow pace to make it last longer. ignore it in the future for the dual-stick shooters that are actually good.

 
Sorry to interrupt the piracy conversation (which I was enjoying) but does anyone have any opinion on the Far Cry 4 season pass?

I really enjoy the game on ps4 but likely will never be able to get the plat because of the co-op trophies. Thoughts?
 
Psprices picked up what look like a few price drops

5 Star Wrestling PS3 9.99 https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/5-star-wrestling/cid=UP8004-NPUB31705_00-5STARWRESTLINGWW

Adventure Time The Secret of the Nameless Kingdom PS3 9.99 https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/adventure-time-the-secret-of-the-nameless-kingdom/cid=UP2089-NPUB31523_00-ADVENTURETIMEPAK

 
Adventure Time The Secret of the Nameless Kingdom Vita 9.99 https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/adventure-time-the-secret-of-the-nameless-kingdom/cid=UP2089-PCSE00582_00-ADVENTURETIMEPAK
 
And a weekend sale on Saint Seiya
 
PS4 35.99
Code: 
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/saint-seiya-soldiers'-soul/cid=UP0700-CUSA02509_00-SSSS000000000000
 
PS3 23.99
Code: 
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/saint-seiya-soldiers'-soul/cid=UP0700-NPUB31729_00-SSSS000000000000 
 
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kelo360 said:
Sorry to interrupt the piracy conversation (which I was enjoying) but does anyone have any opinion on the Far Cry 4 season pass?

I really enjoy the game on ps4 but likely will never be able to get the plat because of the co-op trophies. Thoughts?
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Can't speak on quality as I haven't tried it, but I cracked on the gold package. Those yetis look slick.

 
affa said:
I don't pirate, and in fact, own thousands of games I'll never play, but it's not 'stealing' in the traditional sense because no copy is lost. The reason we settled on calling it 'piracy' is because words like 'stealing' didn't properly apply.

Generally speaking, the majority of pirates I've known are fine folks and simply view the ethics of the situation differently from you. First off, this was generally back when pc games were quite expensive [no steam! no digital] and often came with various offensive DRM solutions that could make the game qualitatively 'worse' than the pirated version [longer load times, worse compatibility, jumping through mad hoops, etc]. Stores generally had terrible return policies. So people did pirate to try a game out, and many of them did buy the game if they liked it. Others stockpiled backlog [like we do now with bundles and sales] and never got around to trying them - it wasn't so much stealing as collecting unused data.

Ultimately, it also depends on how one feels about IP law. Not everyone agrees with how that is, should, or could be implemented. It's easy to say 'oh, well, if you don't want to pay for the game, don't play it', but taken to an extreme, that same line of thinking keeps art in the hands of the rich. We live firmly in a society that generally accepts that as not just fact, but 'morality'. But it's certainly not the only way of thinking, and there are plenty who find the concept of keeping something infinitely reproducible priced as a luxury inherently unethical to begin with. And sure, we can just say 'they created it, they get to decide!' but that spins us right back into the IP debate.

I'm not trying to put forth a specific opinion here -- mine, basically, is if you can afford to, support it -- but more to point out it's not as simple as you make it. Plenty of people disagree about what the morals and ethics are in most matters, this included.
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A concern of the F B I (explained to me over 10 years ago) is that other countries would mass produce/resell games/movies/etc and it would fund terrorism. It is bad when you have soldiers/contractors/tourists/etc in certain countries buying bootleg copies of movies/games, and not realizing they could possibly be funding a terrorist. Sounds far fetched but it is reality. I'll stick with buying my entertainment legitimately, less problems (not that I still don't have any problems, I could make a boring movie about it).

 
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HyperG said:
A concern of the F B I (explained to me over 10 years ago) is that other countries would mass produce/resell games/movies/etc and it would fund terrorism. It is bad when you have soldiers/contractors/tourists/etc in certain countries buying bootleg copies of movies/games, and not realizing they could possibly be funding a terrorist. Sounds far fetched but it is reality. I'll stick with buying my entertainment legitimately, less problems (not that I still don't have any problems, I could make a boring movie about it).
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pfft this conversation got stupid fast.

 
mitch079 said:
Adventure Time The Secret of the Nameless Kingdom PS3 9.99 https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/adventure-time-the-secret-of-the-nameless-kingdom/cid=UP2089-NPUB31523_00-ADVENTURETIMEPAK


Adventure Time The Secret of the Nameless Kingdom Vita 9.99 https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/adventure-time-the-secret-of-the-nameless-kingdom/cid=UP2089-PCSE00582_00-ADVENTURETIMEPAK
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I have been waiting for the Vita to drop in price, from what everyone has been saying this game is a lot like Zelda: A link to the Past.

 
FriskyTanuki said:
https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Blow/status/693202734703472640

I don't see any justification for pirating a game because you want it so bad but think the price is too high. You either wait or don't play it at all.

We need to get past the point where a game's value is solely based on whether it's funded or published by a major multi-national corporation, but instead base it on actual quality and quantity of content.
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Damn, he should have called him out.

 
HyperG said:
A concern of the F B I (explained to me over 10 years ago) is that other countries would mass produce/resell games/movies/etc and it would fund terrorism. It is bad when you have soldiers/contractors/tourists/etc in certain countries buying bootleg copies of movies/games, and not realizing they could possibly be funding a terrorist. Sounds far fetched but it is reality. I'll stick with buying my entertainment legitimately, less problems (not that I still don't have any problems, I could make a boring movie about it).
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That's as silly as rhino horn funding terrorism! Except... Rhino horn really does
 
kelo360 said:
Sorry to interrupt the piracy conversation (which I was enjoying) but does anyone have any opinion on the Far Cry 4 season pass?

I really enjoy the game on ps4 but likely will never be able to get the plat because of the co-op trophies. Thoughts?
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Can't speak to the season pass since I only just got the Yeti DLC and haven't played it yet, but the co-op trophies really aren't bad if you do want to go for the plat. If you don't have any buddies to do it with, it's pretty easy to find people looking to do them on some place like playstationtrophies.org (there were over a half dozen PS4 players that posted yesterday alone looking for someone to do them with).

 
HyperG said:
Sorry that you aren't smart enough to comprehend what I wrote.
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wow turning to insults like a child. I didn't realize I was on gfaqs. Besides that the conversation getting stupid doesn't show a lack of understanding so your insult fails to even hit the mark :nottalking:

 
slidecage said:
Helldivers - PS4/PS3/Vita
Nom Nom Galaxy - PS4
Grid Autosport - PS3
Persona 4 Arena Ultimax - PS3
Nova 111 - PS3/PS4/Vita
Lemmings Touch - Vita

http://blog.us.plays...-february-2016/

wow how much more crap can they push out for free on the vita... Hasnt been a good month in months
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Send another CAG your Vita, they'll be happy to take it off of your hands since you have such disgust for crap being pushed out for the Vita.

 
WNYX585AM said:
I can't wait for someone to steal your brand new car one day and come back 3 years later and pay you the depreciated value.
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That is not the same thing as piracy. That is straight up theft.

piracy-vs-theft.jpg


I feel like people are personally attacking me for pirating The Witness( which I did not do). I am not saying piracy is okay. I am just saying I see why pirates do what they do. Video games are not a cheap hobby. The cost of game development has gone up incredibly while game prices have stayed the same at $50-60. Publishers do not like looking at piracy sites and seeing the 500k downloads(or x#) which they call loss of revenue( I also find that funny since you can't 100% prove if they would have bought it anyway).

There is just one big cycle going on.

intrusive DRM -> pirate game -> pirate talks about how much a better experience he is getting -> other people see and decide to pirate now instead

This whole situation is shitty. Pirates think they are just hurting the wallets of publishers, but they are hurting devs as well. If the game does not do too well the devs could go out of business and then they may not make more games. This is hurting everybody and I am not sure how to fix it.

I just want to play some games now so I am just going to try out The Division now. If anyone wants to play just send me a psn message/party invite.

 
If you pirate a game at launch, there's no reason to buy it when it goes on sale for 15-20 bucks down the line. There's no way to say that pirates aren't robbing you of revenue
 
legendarydogs said:
That is not the same thing as piracy. That is straight up theft.
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You missed the point of my comment. Saying you'll come back and legitimately buy a game when it's cheaper later on even though you pirated it when it was brand new is the same thing as trying to justify stealing a new car but only wanting to pay for the used value of it later on. I wasn't necessarily equating piracy and theft, although I do think they are similar enough that it doesn't really matter.

I understand that piracy is not the same thing as theft, but taking something without permission is wrong. My parents taught me this principle around the same time I learned to speak.

 
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My The Division Beta thoughts....pretty much done with beta after playing about 4 hours with a friend and his brother on PS4:

1. Cover system control feels a bit clunky, actually most of the movement control felt clunky...my friend swore that it was alright citing playing all the Gear of War games. I played Gears 1/2 many years ago but it felt clunky and still does.

2. The graphics are boringgggggggggggg. They're not bad, albeit a bit basic but the setting feels boring. Everything feels generic and most streets you go down feel exactly like others. It also feels a little weird with Christmas stuff everywhere, but following the story that makes sense. The enemies were all quite generic too including bosses. This doesn't feel like Borderlands where each boss had at least a cool intro movie and most named characters felt somewhat unique.

3. The gunplay is alright. I think it's an improvement somewhat on something like Destiny as you feel the recoil and all that good stuff. Guns are a bit boring and just the usual military stuff for now like AKs and various other acronym guns you've seen in every COD that isn't 100% futuristic.

4. Story seems very generic so far. The beginning kind of reminded me of Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroe's story. Nothing great nothing bad but everyone is so serious. I know tragedy happened but come on a little humor now and then will help.

5. I can see this game being very, very boring single player. I was somewhat enjoying the game cause I was playing with 2 others, but the game doesn't have enough here to play by yourself. That is unless you want to do a lot of generic kill missions to gather all them mad collectibles like medical wing tools or whatever they're called. I may buy on release but I can see after beating the main missions and such this will likely not have legs.

6. Dark zone was a little overhyped. It feels kind of cool seeing real people around but the environments take it down many, many notches. My loot obtained from there (I reached DZ level 6) was similar to stuff I found elsewhere. We did have a fun gunfight with about 5 others for 3 guys who were red named and had killed other players. It was fun, but not great. It's also likely very hard to have a whole lot of fun without others since you will be marked red for killing, unless no one else is playing in there.

So far I say pass, pass, pass unless you have friends to play with. I somehow see it being as long as Destiny (about 25 hours single player maybe) with the DZ likely holding you for a while longer. I don't think I would play it very much longer after completing your base honestly. I feel I may get roped into buying this one, but it doesn't feel like a great long term game. Maybe the missions will get better, but right now it feels shallow to the core IMHO. I was consistently thinking to myself man remember Last of Us' awesome environments and survivor game....

Also for my feel on piracy games/movies/music are entertainment and not necessities. Sometimes things are hard to get like old games (abandonware) or somethings like currently running anime/manga in Japan (though streaming services are getting better) aren't as bad, but it all equates to just getting stuff that you didn't have before. Pirating indie games seems like the lowest of the low since I know those guys generally need every dollar they get.

If it's niche, those bringing it over or putting it out need money. I support Mangagamer for bringing out consistently bringing out good visual novels (though I don't touch the Nukige), and if people like puzzle games...heck buy The Witness. There is no right answer, so I don't expect a right answer, but it will be my last thought on it. Too off topic for a deal/discussion about PSN deals/games section.

 
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nitrosmob said:
My The Division Beta thoughts....pretty much done with beta after playing about 4 hours with a friend and his brother on PS4:

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So far I say pass, pass, pass unless you have friends to play with. I somehow see it being as long as Destiny (about 25 hours single player maybe) with the DZ likely holding you for a while longer. I don't think I would play it very much longer after completing your base honestly. I feel I may get roped into buying this one, but it doesn't feel like a great long term game. Maybe the missions will get better, but right now it feels shallow to the core IMHO. I was consistently thinking to myself man remember Last of Us' awesome environments and survivor game....
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Are you someone who enjoyed Borderlands? I feel like some of these games are chasing Borderlands and trying to put their own twist on that formula with too much realism (although that's not quite the right word for Destiny), and it just makes it a little too bland. I enjoyed Borderlands 2 (and the other two game as well) quite a lot and Destiny a decent amount (although less so). I was hoping The Division might fall somewhere between the two.

 
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I did play Borderlands 1/2 pretty much fully. I haven't played Tiny Tina's DLC for Borderlands 2 or finished Claptrap's revolution for the original. It is trying to...even the items have a big massive color light spouting out of them similar to Borderlands saying the rarity. They would be impossible to see otherwise, the graphics are tiny for the items dropped (not good IMHO).

I think the thing that will kill The Division is the blandness. Also the echoes are really done poorly for telling the story. They felt awkward to use. I also got a blue (think that's a rare gun) that had 3% armor penetration. Nothing special honestly though the gun did have a good amount of damage and a good ability. My friend is a gun nut, so maybe that's why it didn't appeal to me too much honestly. I was confused when him and his brother were throwing acronyms around. I honestly don't see this one being ultra great and it will likely get the Ubisoft I dropped $20 in a month treatment.

I also preferred strongly Borderlands 1/2 to Destiny and this. I think the pre-sequel was a bit too much Borderlands milking (still waiting for around $10 for the full pack on PC hopefully) though.

I forgot to mention the season pass contents were already said. The underground may be OK, but with likely even blander environments it wont appeal to me likely. The rest is garbage and should have been day one stuff. All my opinions of course but i'm very tired of military style shooters. I'm watching this, Battleborne, and Overwatch, though frankly all of them look like passes. Once I saw the generic assets for Overwatch being used for another PC MOBA FPS game (forgot the name), this immediately went to my read reviews and only buy on release. Battleborne looks OK but possibly quite repetitive...I need to see more of the MOBA elements to want this one.

Frankly I just want non Military FPS to play with friends. 

 
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Just wanted to say Hi. I'm a recent PS4 owner and looking for input on a game to get to highlight this new gen system. Is bloodbourne good for that? Also looking at possibly far cry primal...

I'm enjoying a lot of the indie games I've gotten like rogue legacy and nuclear throne but I still feel like I haven't seen what the new system can do...
 
Bloodbourne is good if you like the souls games. I'd also recommend Infamous Second Son as it's usually $19.99 or less and provides good entertainment and still looks gorgeous. I haven't played many newer AAA titles on the system so i'll let some people talk about the 3rd party games there.

 
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Bloodbourne is good if you like the souls games. I'd also recommend Infamous Second Son as it's usually $19.99 or less and provides good entertainment and still looks gorgeous. I haven't played many newer AAA titles on the system so i'll let some people talk about the 3rd party games there.
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My first thought for a PS4 newbie was Infamous SS as well. It's a great looking game and very fun. It's also cheap enough at this point too. Was just on sale for $9 last week on PSN.

 
I spent an hour with the Division last night and mostly enjoyed it. I'm coming off hating Destiny then giving it a second chance when Taken King came out and thinking it was the coolest thing since sliced bread. I don't get that feel with the Division yet though I think it has potential like original Destiny if nurtured. Im not sure that will happen here because with Destiny you had Bungie breaking out, going all in etc, while usually Tom Clancy games just slowly disappear into shooter graveyards. I don't see myself getting it for more than $25 anytime soon.
 
Althax said:
Just wanted to say Hi. I'm a recent PS4 owner and looking for input on a game to get to highlight this new gen system. Is bloodbourne good for that? Also looking at possibly far cry primal...

I'm enjoying a lot of the indie games I've gotten like rogue legacy and nuclear throne but I still feel like I haven't seen what the new system can do...
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Depends on what you're into. Driveclub looks great as a driving game. GTAV, Batman: Arkham Knight, The Witcher 3, and Battlefront are great looking third-party games.

 
FriskyTanuki said:
We all know that the way to get back at the government for IP laws you perceive to be bad is to pirate games based on "new IPs" from smaller developers. There are better places to discuss that to its fullest, so it's best that we move on.
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I don't think anyone is saying that anyone is trying to 'get back' at the government. My response was to someone trying to say the ethics of the situation are clear cut. They aren't, unless you subscribe to our current IP laws. Without those, however, it's less clear -- is it ethical to keep infinitely reproducible art out of the hands of the poor? I certainly agree creators need to support themselves and their endeavors, but the vast majority of pirates aren't exactly going to buy the games if they can't pirate them.

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You missed the point of my comment. Saying you'll come back and legitimately buy a game when it's cheaper later on even though you pirated it when it was brand new is the same thing as trying to justify stealing a new car but only wanting to pay for the used value of it later on. I wasn't necessarily equating piracy and theft, although I do think they are similar enough that it doesn't really matter.

I understand that piracy is not the same thing as theft, but taking something without permission is wrong. My parents taught me this principle around the same time I learned to speak.
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But that's just time shifting. You're assuming the person who would pirate at $60 but buy at $2 is costing them $58, but there's an extremely high likelihood that person would never, ever buy at $60.

Everything changes when the item is infinitely reproducible. Cars are limited, that goes without saying. The only thing keeping Joe from listening to a song or playing a game is... legalese / the current law of the land / the current business paradigm. That is, the developer could just as easily sell something under a different paradigm, like 'pay what you want' and the only thing keeping it out of the hands of everyone is the creator's will, not limited physical resources like cars.

Now, again, I fully support rewarding developers for their efforts. If you support the games you like, you get more. That's natural and logical. But ethically? I don't think someone who can't afford something infinitely reproducible is necessarily ethically wrong for piracy -- rather, I think the system that prevents them from having something infinitely reproducible is what is ethically flawed. "You just need to wait 5 years for the price to come down" is arbitrary, and while absolutely correct within our current system, makes little sense from a purely practical standpoint. Most of our laws and business practices (and ethical boundaries) were created when all goods were limited and then juryrigged to fit the digital space, and not all of them make sense. Obviously some people live by the book, and others don't. Ultimately, piracy will always exist so it's a moot point in many ways.

 
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