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It definitely had its share of issues. I hope the sequel irons them out.
sequels are always better than the original. plus the sequel is supposed to be released on vita and purportedly squeenix will be doing dev duties instead of tecmo (although that might just be a translation issue). I'd guess it won't release until 2017 and by then the earth could be overrun by magma from a massive asteroid impact or something.

 
Well I was gonna get that gwent pack from gamestop, but the damn thing kept giving me errors in two different browsers. And I'm not entirely sure they didn't just take the money from my trade card anyway... Is there anyway to look up activity on a trade credit card?  

 
2016 baitin'. :whistle2:

I do like the look of DQH but those Musou-style games all seem very dull. If you guys were going to recommend one as the best in the genre, what would it be? The only ones I've played so far are DW Next and Senran Kagura. DW Next was an immediate bore. Senran Kagura is hard to judge the style fairly from because the load times and frequency were atrocious.

I do have OP: Pirate Warriors 2, but I've no idea if that's one of the better games in the genre or not.
I've never played one more than like 5 minutes of one on the PS2 but I hear the Samurai Warriors one on PS4 is good.

 
2016 baitin'. :whistle2:

I do like the look of DQH but those Musou-style games all seem very dull. If you guys were going to recommend one as the best in the genre, what would it be? The only ones I've played so far are DW Next and Senran Kagura. DW Next was an immediate bore. Senran Kagura is hard to judge the style fairly from because the load times and frequency were atrocious.

I do have OP: Pirate Warriors 2, but I've no idea if that's one of the better games in the genre or not.
As the primary guy here who enjoys Musou-style games, I thought I'd have an answer for you, but:

1. DQH had slightly more RPG and Tower Defense elements, the latter of which could get really annoying.

2. You already commented on Senran Kagura.

3. The last Dynasty/Samurai Warriors I played was DW7, and I have DW7XL, DW8, DW8XL, SW4, and Warriors Orochi 3 (Vita) in my backlog. For what it's worth, I really liked DW7 when I played it, and I've played almost every numbered Dynasty Warriors game (skipping DW6).

Pirate Warriors 2 is pretty good from what I remember, but you'll get more enjoyment out of it if you're a fan of the One Piece series.

 
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tyler correctly described labyrinth legends - it's ... ok. I'm going to see it through and cross it off the list but I might have to use a guide just to find enough stars to progress. some of them seem like they just pop out of nowhere for no reason at all.
I remember this game now. I started it when we got it on Plus and almost immediately hated it.

 
I remember this game now. I started it when we got it on Plus and almost immediately hated it.
yup, I did the same. coming back to it it's a totally serviceable game albeit unfair at times (i.e. having to move a block over a pit across four moving platforms where the platforms are the size of the block and the controls suuuuck). maybe that just means that my standards have lowered over the past two years. like I'm sitting there playing it and subconsciously thinking 'at least it isn't don't starve'.

 
2016 baitin'. :whistle2:

I do like the look of DQH but those Musou-style games all seem very dull. If you guys were going to recommend one as the best in the genre, what would it be? The only ones I've played so far are DW Next and Senran Kagura. DW Next was an immediate bore. Senran Kagura is hard to judge the style fairly from because the load times and frequency were atrocious.

I do have OP: Pirate Warriors 2, but I've no idea if that's one of the better games in the genre or not.
If you don't like Musou games, don't bother imo. They're all pretty much the same thing with different skins. I personally prefer the licensed ones, so I had a good time with Hyrule Warriors and Dragon Quest Heroes. DQH compared to hyrule had more party management, side quests, and equipment stuff to deal with making it a little closer to an RPG-esque experience. But at the core, you mash a button to beat up a bunch of dudes and occasionally use a special attack. Same as all the other Musou games. If you don't like the gameplay in one, changing skins isn't going to help much.

 
So saying the word backlog and talking about how big mine is is just some dick measuring contest, right? In that case, I have the biggest backlog of anyone here.
 
The worst part about DQH is that until the last few missions, there are just two types of level. You either defeat all the monsters or you protect something. Obviously kill everything is easy. The protect something missions are such a fucking pain because whatever/whoever you need to protect can't survive for shit. So they spawn enemies all the way at the other end of the map, and you have to make a choice. You can stay at your goal and kill the things attacking it, or you can run to where the enemies are spawning and stop them from spawning. So if you stay, the enemies just keep spawning over and over. The only way to stop them is to shut down the spawns. So remember when I said you have to make a choice? Yeah, it doesn't matter because you're going to go for the spawn points anyway. So literally every mission is the same thing in the end. There's zero variety.
 
As the primary guy here who enjoys Musou-style games, I thought I'd have an answer for you, but:

2. You already commented on Senran Kagura.

Pirate Warriors 2 is pretty good from what I remember, but you'll get more enjoyment out of it if you're a fan of the One Piece series.
I do plan to give Senran Kagura: Estival Versus a try on PS4. I'm hoping the platform change will eliminate the terrible loading of the Vita game that came before it. If not at least the fan service is silly fun.

I'll give PW2 a try. I used to like OP before it went to shit. It had a good balance of wacky humor and seriousness for a long time. After the time skip there were just too many stupid characters and the fights just felt pointless and like there was no reason to care. It's a shame because the end of the Whitebeard war was great.

 
Well I was gonna get that gwent pack from gamestop, but the damn thing kept giving me errors in two different browsers. And I'm not entirely sure they didn't just take the money from my trade card anyway... Is there anyway to look up activity on a trade credit card?
I ordered a PSN card from the website over the weekend. It always failed when I tried to really go to the check out when logged in. I called because I was worried it was taking the money from my gift card.

Their way to resolve it? Log in as a guest account to do the order. They then manually added my PUR points over the phone.

That is right, they know their website is fubar for people with accounts to actually be able to buy anything.

 
The worst part about DQH is that until the last few missions, there are just two types of level. You either defeat all the monsters or you protect something. Obviously kill everything is easy. The protect something missions are such a fucking pain because whatever/whoever you need to protect can't survive for shit. So they spawn enemies all the way at the other end of the map, and you have to make a choice. You can stay at your goal and kill the things attacking it, or you can run to where the enemies are spawning and stop them from spawning. So if you stay, the enemies just keep spawning over and over. The only way to stop them is to shut down the spawns. So remember when I said you have to make a choice? Yeah, it doesn't matter because you're going to go for the spawn points anyway. So literally every mission is the same thing in the end. There's zero variety.
Legitimate least favorite mission was the one where you have to protect the dwarf king while he stands in the middle of the map. Every damn time the asshole would run in a circle to the strongest monster then stand there and get walloped on. And the farthest, least accessible, spawn point was the one spawning the worst monsters that had a direct line to the dwarf. Damn monkey things would just gather around him and he'd be dead within a minute. But if you ran off to kill that spawn point first, he'd die before you could get back because all the other spawn points were much closer. fucking pain in the ass.

 
I ordered a PSN card from the website over the weekend. It always failed when I tried to really go to the check out when logged in. I called because I was worried it was taking the money from my gift card.

Their way to resolve it? Log in as a guest account to do the order. They then manually added my PUR points over the phone.

That is right, they know their website is fubar for people with accounts to actually be able to buy anything.
Yeah, I tried to grab a psn card with my order as well. I'm going to have to call them over lunch or something, because I'm almost certain I should have had more than $15 on that gift card.

 
So saying the word backlog and talking about how big mine is is just some dick measuring contest, right? In that case, I have the biggest backlog of anyone here.
No, its some form of self deprecation. Everyone here has to know that they wasted more money (credit for Vig and others) than they saved when they have a 100 game backlog they most likely will never finish because they keep buying more games.

 
As the primary guy here who enjoys Musou-style games, I thought I'd have an answer for you, but:

1. DQH had slightly more RPG and Tower Defense elements, the latter of which could get really annoying.

2. You already commented on Senran Kagura.

3. The last Dynasty/Samurai Warriors I played was DW7, and I have DW7XL, DW8, DW8XL, SW4, and Warriors Orochi 3 (Vita) in my backlog. For what it's worth, I really liked DW7 when I played it, and I've played almost every numbered Dynasty Warriors game (skipping DW6).

Pirate Warriors 2 is pretty good from what I remember, but you'll get more enjoyment out of it if you're a fan of the One Piece series.
You're the primary guy?

As for Therm's question, SW4 and WO3 are well regarded as the best musou games which I agree with. Gundam and kamen rider has a special place in my heart since I'm a big fan of the series. Also even though I endured it, ignore Bleach.

To add on to what Sage said. I wouldn't play games as honestly you don't seem the type. It's just mindlessly hack and slashing away at waves of enemies no matter how sophisticated it seems.

 
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No, its some form of self deprecation. Everyone here has to know that they wasted more money (credit for Vig and others) than they saved when they have a 100 game backlog they most likely will never finish because they keep buying more games.
I think this is actually true (for some of us) - talking about it for me actually helps reinforce that I don't need to buy shit because it's cheap. I bet last year I bought 1/5 the number of games than I did the year before and now I'm hoping to really chew through what's left or axe what I don't want to play. definitely not a source of pride/wang length though. I'd rather have money in my pocket than the 100 games on my 'shit I will never play' spreadsheet tab.

 
I know there's talk of that AC Collection and all but it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibilities that they could release Rogue on PS4 if we are indeed getting a break from AC this year. I kinda wonder why they haven't done it already.

 
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I think this is actually true (for some of us) - talking about it for me actually helps reinforce that I don't need to buy shit because it's cheap. I bet last year I bought 1/5 the number of games than I did the year before and now I'm hoping to really chew through what's left or axe what I don't want to play. definitely not a source of pride/wang length though. I'd rather have money in my pocket than the 100 games on my 'shit I will never play' spreadsheet tab.
Yeah that's why I'm incredibly selective of what I buy digital now. At least with physical games I can get a portion, or sometimes all, of what I paid for the game back if I finish it or decide I no longer want to play it.

 
You're the primary guy?

As for Therm's question, SW4 and WO3 are well regarded as the best musou games which I agree with. Gundam and kamen rider has a special place in my heart since I'm a big fan of the series. Also even though I endured it, ignore Bleach.

To add on to what Sage said. I wouldn't play games as honestly you don't seem the type. It's just mindlessly hack and slashing away at waves of enemies no matter how sophisticated it seems.
Whoops. I thought I was. Clearly I was wrong.

 
I think this is actually true (for some of us) - talking about it for me actually helps reinforce that I don't need to buy shit because it's cheap. I bet last year I bought 1/5 the number of games than I did the year before and now I'm hoping to really chew through what's left or axe what I don't want to play. definitely not a source of pride/wang length though. I'd rather have money in my pocket than the 100 games on my 'shit I will never play' spreadsheet tab.
Exactly this. Looks like I only ended up buying three things during the holiday sale (one for a system I don't even own yet). But there were so many more that looked somewhat interesting that I probably would have bought at this time last year.

Progress?

 
No, its some form of self deprecation. Everyone here has to know that they wasted more money (credit for Vig and others) than they saved when they have a 100 game backlog they most likely will never finish because they keep buying more games.
I need to save this when people do not understand how I am saving money by using GF.

 
I need to save this when people do not understand how I am saving money by using GF.
I'd swap over to gamefly if I primarily played retail games. But overall I spend way more time with downloadables. And then end up spending a month or more playing the various retail games I do get.

 
Yeah that's why I'm incredibly selective of what I buy digital now. At least with physical games I can get a portion, or sometimes all, of what I paid for the game back if I finish it or decide I no longer want to play it.
It's not even so much about the money for me anymore, but about the whole stupid concept. I know we like to pick on vig, but he literally just listed off 5 or 6 30-40 hour games from the same genre (that probably don't play that much different). Plus a bunch of assassins creed games that have similar lengths, especially if you likes you some tropheez.

At one point I dumped my whole psn download list into a spreadsheet, removed everything I'd finished and looked each game up on howlongtobeat. Given the current amount of time I have to play games it'd probably take me 3-5 years to play through that list.

eventually you have to embrace the idea that you can't play it all, stop buying shit and prioritize. some people on cag do swing their backlogs around like a big ol dick but I'd like to think psnot is more akin to a support group trying not to be hoarder dweebs.
 
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I'd swap over to gamefly if I primarily played retail games. But overall I spend way more time with downloadables. And then end up spending a month or more playing the various retail games I do get.
Yeah, my play style works better for it than most. Then again I have been staring at the Uncharted Collection disc for a couple days while playing Minecraft and other stuff that I knew would be more fun while mixing in games being passed around from the import site.

 
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Zimm...what was the best way to get $$ in Bigfest? I remember you mentioning some glitch.
Play that first festival on the very bottom, the one with the lightning and pre-selected bands. Can't remember the name. Then just start it and let the money pile up. Don't clear away any of the dialogs or whatever and don't worry about satisfying and concert goers because it's not your actual festival you're mucking up. Only time you have to exit out is when you need to upgrade your trailer to hold more money.

 
Backlogs can be good to an extent. I kinda like the idea of having around 30 different games to choose from at any given time, just so I have a good variety and can find something I'm in the mood for. I'm around 40 right now and don't want it to get much bigger than that though. The thing that keeps me from making much progress on mine is my favorite games all seem to be huge as fuck. I guess that means I should leave some of the shorter ones alone, which I've been doing pretty good at lately I think. I'd rather play one giant 40-hour game that I love than five or six 6-8 hour ones that are just okay.

 
I like how we all have similar games in our backlog, and like a support group we try to knock them out together. Last year was good with the themes and already this year we are doing rdr, diablo3, ni no kuni, etc. Playing through backlogs together makes it seem alot more fun and like someone said, we can all pretend the game is new and talk about it in here ;)

 
Play that first festival on the very bottom, the one with the lightning and pre-selected bands. Can't remember the name. Then just start it and let the money pile up. Don't clear away any of the dialogs or whatever and don't worry about satisfying and concert goers because it's not your actual festival you're mucking up. Only time you have to exit out is when you need to upgrade your trailer to hold more money.
I don't see that anywhere. Every one I start I have to choose my bands
 
For Fire Emblem fans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsFCYV3QM8w

There may be spoilers, but if you've been following the latest game's (Fate) overall plot, they probably won't be new to you.

 
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Actually, my least favorite thing about DQH is how 95% of the enemies seem to have an attack that can throw you 1000 feet away.
Guarding in DQH is actually incredibly useful, as it seems to take quite a bit to break your guard. Also, are you playing as Luceus? If so, his Square-Square-Triangle combo attack will almost always interrupt larger enemies' moves.

 
I need to save this when people do not understand how I am saving money by using GF.
I keep thinking about Gamefly but then I get another half dozen games added to the pile with plus games and $5 and under PSN games. I am better than most at not buying shit though.

I have this 20% off coup good until Feb that might just need to go towards the full price DLC for Resogun (and others). Otherwise it may never get used since I never buy more than $10 worth of stuff at a time.

Anyone want this coup?

 
The biggest problem i have with a backlog is that I also like to keep games in my collection so that (in theory) I'll be able to play them whenever I want to. It's probably the sole reason I still have my 360 at this point.
 
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