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Zimm108 said:
Sweet. My car just all of a sudden died on me while driving in the booger-freezing cold. If I'm giving it gas, engine runs. As soon as I let off the gas and/or brake, it shuts down on me. Thankfully I was able to make it into a space in my Park-n-Ride ramp for the day.

But fucking blarg.
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No Google, but the only obvious thing that comes to mind is that somehow the thing that holds the idle position for your gas got messed up and so your car isn't getting enough gas unless you're manually doing it. I've looked at that on a few cars while doing other things and it's usually pretty accessible and easy to manipulate so that the car idles up or down where you want it. Look up issues with car idling for your model.

#notamechanic

Vigilante said:
First bits of story info for Psychonauts 2: http://www.destructoid.com/the-first-psychonauts-2-story-info-is-starting-to-emerge-333577.phtml
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I'm so excited for 2020.

 
Thoughts on BL Handsome Collection? Looks like it had framerate issues at launch, did those get resolved? I've still got a $50 GC for Walmart that I got for Christmas, considering grabbing that with it since they've got it used for $25.

Plat looks like a pain on BL2, though, with the need to level 2 of the characters up to 30/25 or so. They're not even the characters I'd want to play.  :wall:

 
Went into Amazon chat. Even though the 20% off deal is Prime only and my free trial ended yesterday I had no problems getting him to refund 20% off my Gravity Rush preorder.  :D/

 
Vigilante said:
The only preorder I'm considering from Amazon at 20% off is Gravity Rush Remastered, but considering that releases right at the beginning of next month and I/we will be busy with Ni no Kuni, I can wait to get that.

However, I think I'll hit up Customer Service today to see if they'll give me back $8 for my Zero Time Dilemma (Zero Escape 3) w/ Bonus Watch preorder from last July.
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Link/list pls
 
Valve posted some info on how the Winter sale went. Anybody curious about the change in format from the normal 4/8/24 hour flash sale approach to fixed prices for the whole sale should probably read it. Oh and Tyler because he's a whore for data.

https://steamdb.info/forum/790/

tldr; The fixed prices and the metagame of looking at the discovery queue to get trading cards caused people to look at a much wider variety of games, wishlisting went up like crazy, and sales were up as a whole.

 
Zimm108 said:
Sweet. My car just all of a sudden died on me while driving in the booger-freezing cold. If I'm giving it gas, engine runs. As soon as I let off the gas and/or brake, it shuts down on me. Thankfully I was able to make it into a space in my Park-n-Ride ramp for the day.

But fucking blarg.
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I didn't google to see if I could make Stotch proud, but it sounds like it would be a clogged fuel injector. Since I do not live in the cold, I have no idea if the cold could possibly make it worse. I would not think gas would freeze even in the dick shriveling weather you guys get.

 
GatorBeerGeek said:
I didn't google to see if I could make Stotch proud, but it sounds like it would be a clogged fuel injector. Since I do not live in the cold, I have no idea if the cold could possibly make it worse. I would not think gas would freeze even in the dick shriveling weather you guys get.
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He could have some water in the fuel line. I don't think freezing would explain why it works when he's hitting the gas, though. Potentially a clog could explain that but it seems iffy.

#notamechanic #backseatdiagnostics #warminside

 
GatorBeerGeek said:
I didn't google to see if I could make Stotch proud, but it sounds like it would be a clogged fuel injector. Since I do not live in the cold, I have no idea if the cold could possibly make it worse. I would not think gas would freeze even in the dick shriveling weather you guys get.
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Thermopyle said:
He could have some water in the fuel line. I don't think freezing would explain why it works when he's hitting the gas, though. Potentially a clog could explain that but it seems iffy.

#notamechanic #backseatdiagnostics #warminside
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It's weird because it was fine for most of the drive after sitting outside all night. Just died towards the end after the car got "warmed up". I had a coolant issue before, so we're thinking it may be related to that because cold, even though my heat levels looked fine on my dash.

 
have any of you guys actually played psychonauts?  I got it during a steam sale way back and tried it and thought it was pretty unfun but I definitely may not have given it a fair shake.  it has a lot of community love it seems but that doesn't always mean a game is good.  

 
I wonder if Amazon will add the 20% off retroactively to the Zero Time Dilemma edition with the watch as it does apply to the regular preorder.

 
MildObstruction said:
have any of you guys actually played psychonauts? I got it during a steam sale way back and tried it and thought it was pretty unfun but I definitely may not have given it a fair shake. it has a lot of community love it seems but that doesn't always mean a game is good.
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I tried psychonauts not too long after it came out. I also hated it. Boring and shitty camera if I remember right. I played an hour and sold it back or traded it in or something.

 
Zimm108 said:
Sweet. My car just all of a sudden died on me while driving in the booger-freezing cold. If I'm giving it gas, engine runs. As soon as I let off the gas and/or brake, it shuts down on me. Thankfully I was able to make it into a space in my Park-n-Ride ramp for the day.

But fucking blarg.
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That sucks, Zimm. Cars don't like cold weather any more than we do? How old is your car, and how many miles are on it? Did it start OK? How long were you driving before it shut down?

The fact that the engine will go when you give it gas, but shuts down when you don't sounds like the fuel mix ratio is off. In colder weather, air is denser meaning more oxygen per volume. More oxygen per volume means you need more gas to have the correct ratio. Also, in colder weather, gas doesn't vaporize as easily; some of it will condensate meaning you'll need more gas for the right ratio. These things will change as the engine warms up. That's why our vehicles have all of these different sensors tied to the electronic fuel injection system. They're designed to keep the ratio right based on the temperature, air flow, fuel flow, etc. Long story short, it could be a dirty or bad sensor.

Another thing to check, and the first and easiest thing to check when having cold weather problems, is the battery . Batteries hate the cold; the chemical reaction inside is slower at lower temps. If your battery is over 3 years old, it's near the end of it's useful and may not be supplying enough electrical power to keep all systems operating properly. Check the battery cables, too, and make sure they're not loose.

 
Vigilante said:
However, I think I'll hit up Customer Service today to see if they'll give me back $8 for my Zero Time Dilemma (Zero Escape 3) w/ Bonus Watch preorder from last July.
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Let me know if you're successful in that as I wouldn't mind saving $8 too. Though I already have a prime savings of $10 on my order, I don't remember what that was from.

 
MildObstruction said:
have any of you guys actually played psychonauts? I got it during a steam sale way back and tried it and thought it was pretty unfun but I definitely may not have given it a fair shake. it has a lot of community love it seems but that doesn't always mean a game is good.
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I have the same experience as you (got it during Steam sale/humble bundle), but I thought it was pretty decent. I would have kept playing if I didn't have to use mouse/keyboard to control shit. Seemed goofy and fun.

 
Zimm108 said:
It's weird because it was fine for most of the drive after sitting outside all night. Just died towards the end after the car got "warmed up". I had a coolant issue before, so we're thinking it may be related to that because cold, even though my heat levels looked fine on my dash.
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Now that I see Therm's response, I see there could be confusion with my post. It sounds like a fuel injector issue. I mentioned the cold only because I do not know if that could make what I expect to be the problem (the fuel injector) possibly worse since I dont normally have to deal with that shit.

If you have to keep on the gas to keep it going, there is something wrong with the air and fuel mixture or the doom and gloom scenario is you have completely lost combustion in a cylinder and it needs the rest running to keep the motor going. I would think if that were the case then you would notice it running like shit even when on the gas and not just at idle time.

Water in the fuel line does not make sense. It would actually sputter with more acceleration. More gas equals more water if that is the problem.

EDIT: madchemist'd and good call on the electrical angle, but if he was already up and running wouldnt that likely point more to an alternator going bad instead of the battery?

 
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madchemist76 said:
That sucks, Zimm. Cars don't like cold weather any more than we do? How old is your car, and how many miles are on it? Did it start OK? How long were you driving before it shut down?

The fact that the engine will go when you give it gas, but shuts down when you don't sounds like the fuel mix ratio is off. In colder weather, air is denser meaning more oxygen per volume. More oxygen per volume means you need more gas to have the correct ratio. Also, in colder weather, gas doesn't vaporize as easily; some of it will condensate meaning you'll need more gas for the right ratio. These things will change as the engine warms up. That's why our vehicles have all of these different sensors tied to the electronic fuel injection system. They're designed to keep the ratio right based on the temperature, air flow, fuel flow, etc. Long story short, it could be a dirty or bad sensor.

Another thing to check, and the first and easiest thing to check when having cold weather problems, is the battery . Batteries hate the cold; the chemical reaction inside is slower at lower temps. If your battery is over 3 years old, it's near the end of it's useful and may not be supplying enough electrical power to keep all systems operating properly. Check the battery cables, too, and make sure they're not loose.
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tl;dr

did you try rebooting it?

 
madchemist76 said:
That sucks, Zimm. Cars don't like cold weather any more than we do? How old is your car, and how many miles are on it? Did it start OK? How long were you driving before it shut down?

The fact that the engine will go when you give it gas, but shuts down when you don't sounds like the fuel mix ratio is off. In colder weather, air is denser meaning more oxygen per volume. More oxygen per volume means you need more gas to have the correct ratio. Also, in colder weather, gas doesn't vaporize as easily; some of it will condensate meaning you'll need more gas for the right ratio. These things will change as the engine warms up. That's why our vehicles have all of these different sensors tied to the electronic fuel injection system. They're designed to keep the ratio right based on the temperature, air flow, fuel flow, etc. Long story short, it could be a dirty or bad sensor.

Another thing to check, and the first and easiest thing to check when having cold weather problems, is the battery . Batteries hate the cold; the chemical reaction inside is slower at lower temps. If your battery is over 3 years old, it's near the end of it's useful and may not be supplying enough electrical power to keep all systems operating properly. Check the battery cables, too, and make sure they're not loose.
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Car is a 2004 Chevy Aveo with about 125K or so on it. It started up just fine (besides the regular cold weather moaning) and like I said earlier, drove just fine until just before the end of my trip, so everything should have warmed up by then.

I can't remember when I last bought a battery, but I wouldn't think it was that since its started up fine? Doesn't the alternator provide the power after the car starts and the battery is only for starting?

Full disclosure: I know next to nothing about cars besides how to kinda sorta change my front brakes and add required liquids in their designated receptacles.

 
I put in an amazon preorder for world of final fantasy vita since bby has the price wrong and may or may not ever fix it because lol vita.  I'll hopefully remember to check on impressions during e3 to see if the vita version isn't up to snuff for the game.  it looked like fun during that last japanese expo even if it is mostly pokemon with a hint of final fantasy.

 
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MildObstruction said:
have any of you guys actually played psychonauts? I got it during a steam sale way back and tried it and thought it was pretty unfun but I definitely may not have given it a fair shake. it has a lot of community love it seems but that doesn't always mean a game is good.
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pharmacrest said:
I tried psychonauts not too long after it came out. I also hated it. Boring and shitty camera if I remember right. I played an hour and sold it back or traded it in or something.
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I played a good chunk back on the original XBOX and didn't like it at all. I've yet to play a DF game I found impressive, though.

guardian_owl said:
Let me know if you're successful in that as I wouldn't mind saving $8 too. Though I already have a prime savings of $10 on my order, I don't remember what that was from.
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I was able to get them to adjust my Gravity Rush order even though I'm not Prime any more. I can't imagine you'd have more trouble unless they refuse to add the 20% off to the $10 you already have off somewhere.

 
Zimm108 said:
Full disclosure: I know next to nothing about cars besides how to kinda sorta change my front brakes and add required liquids in their designated receptacles.
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If you know how to check fluids you are already ahead of 95% of people. If you know how to change brakes, you are ahead of about 98-99%.

 
GatorBeerGeek said:
I didn't google to see if I could make Stotch proud, but it sounds like it would be a clogged fuel injector. Since I do not live in the cold, I have no idea if the cold could possibly make it worse. I would not think gas would freeze even in the dick shriveling weather you guys get.
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I know nothing about fixing zimms problem, but yeah, if you don't keep enough gas in the tank there's definitely a chance it'll freeze. Don't know how high that chance is, but I was worried about mine when we had a surprise (to me anyway) ice storm saturday night. Ended up having the bf grab some anti-ice fuel junk that I haven't used yet since I was able to just fill the tank before work on monday.

I've always been told to make sure you have gas before a storm, not just so you can leave or whatever, but to make sure your car doesn't get messed up as well.

 
I think people want to like Double Fine because of the Lucasarts pedigree / Tim Schafer.  I know I do.  They've had a few games that I liked (Stacking + I actually liked Brutal Legend and The Cave) but they're no Platinum.

DF game list:

2005 Psychonauts
2009 Brütal Legend
2010 Costume Quest
2011 Stacking
2011 Iron Brigade
2011 Sesame Street: Once Upon a Monster
2012 Double Fine Happy Action Theater
2012 Middle Manager of Justice
2012 Amnesia Fortnight 2012
2012 Kinect Party
2013 The Cave
2013 Dropchord
2013 Autonomous
2013 My Alien Buddy
2014 Broken Age
2014 Amnesia Fortnight 2014
2014 Hack 'n' Slash
2014 Costume Quest 2
2014 Spacebase DF-9
2015 Grim Fandango Remastered
2015 Massive Chalice
 
Thermopyle said:
No Google, but the only obvious thing that comes to mind is that somehow the thing that holds the idle position for your gas got messed up and so your car isn't getting enough gas unless you're manually doing it. I've looked at that on a few cars while doing other things and it's usually pretty accessible and easy to manipulate so that the car idles up or down where you want it. Look up issues with car idling for your model.

#notamechanic


I'm so excited for 2020.
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GatorBeerGeek said:
I didn't google to see if I could make Stotch proud, but it sounds like it would be a clogged fuel injector. Since I do not live in the cold, I have no idea if the cold could possibly make it worse. I would not think gas would freeze even in the dick shriveling weather you guys get.
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MildObstruction said:
I think people want to like Double Fine because of the Lucasarts pedigree / Tim Schafer. I know I do. They've had a few games that I liked (Stacking + I actually liked Brutal Legend and The Cave) but they're no Platinum.

DF game list:

2005 Psychonauts
2009 Brütal Legend
2010 Costume Quest
2011 Stacking
2011 Iron Brigade
2011 Sesame Street: Once Upon a Monster
2012 Double Fine Happy Action Theater
2012 Middle Manager of Justice
2012 Amnesia Fortnight 2012
2012 Kinect Party
2013 The Cave
2013 Dropchord
2013 Autonomous
2013 My Alien Buddy
2014 Broken Age
2014 Amnesia Fortnight 2014
2014 Hack 'n' Slash
2014 Costume Quest 2
2014 Spacebase DF-9
2015 Grim Fandango Remastered
2015 Massive Chalice
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I am going to give Grim Fandango a go at some point, and I am required to play the Full Throttle remake when it comes out due to nostalgia. If both of those fall flat I think I am done with their stuff. Brutal Legend started out great and went to shit when it suddenly became an RTS. I know others preferred the RTS parts, but I definitely didn't.

 
Out of all those I only liked Stacking and Costume Quest.   Hated the Cave though it was humorous.  I just hate puzzles.  I will probably enjoy some of Fandango since it was free.

 
Sagemoon said:
I know nothing about fixing zimms problem, but yeah, if you don't keep enough gas in the tank there's definitely a chance it'll freeze. Don't know how high that chance is, but I was worried about mine when we had a surprise (to me anyway) ice storm saturday night. Ended up having the bf grab some anti-ice fuel junk that I haven't used yet since I was able to just fill the tank before work on monday.

I've always been told to make sure you have gas before a storm, not just so you can leave or whatever, but to make sure your car doesn't get messed up as well.
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Car has about 3/4 tank (I believe) so it has plenty of gas.

What about a frozen fuel line, and a chunk of frozen something or other moved while I was driving and lodged elsewhere, explaining the good driving for first 10 minutes followed by the shutdown at the end of the drive?

 
I've never played Pyschonauts but I'd heard it was good so I'm interested. But now maybe less interested....

I loved Costume Quest. For some reason I wasn't enamored with Costume Quest 2, though, and didn't get very far in it.

 
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GatorBeerGeek said:
I am going to give Grim Fandango a go at some point, and I am required to play the Full Throttle remake when it comes out due to nostalgia. If both of those fall flat I think I am done with their stuff. Brutal Legend started out great and went to shit when it suddenly became an RTS. I know others preferred the RTS parts, but I definitely didn't.
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the biggest problem with brutal legend is that it would've been a goddamn epic action/adventure game and if done correctly probably would've sold through the roof instead of ending up in the bottom of the bargain bin at literally every store within 6-9 months. completely wasted talent and theme. the fact that they made it rts almost makes it feel hipster - like they just had to do the unexpected. it was fairly well done though and once you accepted that it's what the game was it wasn't too bad. but I 100% get the disdain for it even being a fan.

 
Crunchewy said:
I loved Costume Quest. For some reason I wasn't enamored with Costume Quest 2, though, and didn't get very far in it.
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I think you're the first person that I've heard that from - most seem to say that they're basically the same game so I was planning on just playing the 2nd one to give it a shot.

 
MildObstruction said:
I think you're the first person that I've heard that from - most seem to say that they're basically the same game so I was planning on just playing the 2nd one to give it a shot.
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It might be that I wasn't actually quite ready for more Costume Quest at the time. I mean to go back to it at some point.

 
Zimm108 said:
Car has about 3/4 tank (I believe) so it has plenty of gas.

What about a frozen fuel line, and a chunk of frozen something or other moved while I was driving and lodged elsewhere, explaining the good driving for first 10 minutes followed by the shutdown at the end of the drive?
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How's your transmission doing?

I'd lean towards it being alternator or transmission if only because your problem sounds similar to the one I had 2 years ago when it was like -20 for two weeks here. I can't remember which one died on me after warming up, driving fine for a while, making weird noises, and then barely making it to a parking spot afterwards though.

 
Zimm:  This one is a bit of a reach, but have you tried checking the air in your tires? Also be sure to double-check your wiper fluid levels. 

 
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