PSP value pack $250 heres hoping for cheaper games.

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Alright so i know some of you will find this hard to believe but i posted this last E3 and no one still believed me. Like it or not my brother works for Sony he's an engineer and he helped develop the grahpics core for PSP. In Sony they talk to Kaz often on conference calls, in fact my brother was with him the night before PSP's release. Well he just got off the phone on conference call in Cali. Kaz says he is %100 shooting for $150 Price tag and quote "We will make it up in software by pricing it at %$50 us dollars" "I'm anazlying and talking to current sony executives that our strategy for the USA needs to be $150 target for the Standard pack" ~kaz

Try not to flame me too much you guys flamed me before i'm not bsing just remember if it does infact release for $150 you guys can kiss my as :D

I'll keep everyone updated tonight i'm talking to Jason (my brother) again tonight

M.N
 
I like your sig.

As much as the $150 point would help Sony, I don't see them making back much (if any) profit back by having $50 games. Most, at least in the beginning, will be PS2 ports, and while they might sell at $30, I think $50 is too steep. I know I won't be buying one if the games are $50.
 
I hope this is true, I would really buy one at that price. The sad thing however is that Nintendo will be in trouble and I would hate Nintendo to go the way of SEGA.
 
My goodness. While I like the low price point, those games are gonna hurt my wallet. I think I'll wait for a few price drops.
 
thats totally fine i knew that would happen i was going out on a limb and i knew you guys wouldn't believe just thought i would share with you guys. I'm being honest, i'm not that dumb



$50 dollars for games is ok i guess, the system being $150 is amazing though if kaz can get it done
 
[quote name='ananag112']I hope this is true, I would really buy one at that price. The sad thing however is that Nintendo will be in trouble and I would hate Nintendo to go the way of SEGA.[/quote]

Well, I hope it isn't true cause look at software prices. In the end, anyone who wold be paying 50 per game would start to lose money as opposed to a system with a higher price but cheaper games. Plus, I got an import PSP so I want cheaper games, not cheaper hardware. :lol:
 
I'd buy one if it was $150, and if the games were $50 I wouldn't mind. It would probably be good for me, that way I'd just buy the best games instead of getting everything because it's cheap.
 
If PSP is 150, then Nintendo will obviously drop the DS to 99. And yeah, expensive PSP games means that I'll really make sure the game is good before i go out and buy one.
 
Thanks for the info lets see if it pans out... I find it hard to believe that they can manage that price but we will see.

I do have one question though
how do you say:



[quote name='Maynard']"%$50 us dollars" ~kaz
[/quote]
 
[quote name='Maynard']Alright so i know some of you will find this hard to believe but i posted this last E3 and no one still believed me. Like it or not my brother works for Sony he's an engineer and he helped develop the grahpics core for PSP. In Sony they talk to Kaz often on conference calls, in fact my brother was with him the night before PSP's release. Well he just got off the phone on conference call in Cali. Kaz says he is %100 shooting for $150 Price tag and quote "We will make it up in software by pricing it at %$50 us dollars" "I'm anazlying and talking to current sony executives that our strategy for the USA needs to be $150 target for the Standard pack" ~kaz

Try not to flame me too much you guys flamed me before i'm not bsing just remember if it does infact release for $150 you guys can kiss my as :D

I'll keep everyone updated tonight i'm talking to Jason (my brother) again tonight

M.N[/quote]

ask the people standing in line... Is this the line to pick up the PSP or to kiss the dudes butt :)

and DANCE TURTLE DANCE
 
from what my brother says Kaz is a really awesome guy, he's met him numerous times and hes just a normal "brutal" guy. Brutal meaning he demends perfection from people. Did you guys know that PSP games can be played online if your by an acess point? I didn't.
 
[quote name='LowTecky']If PSP is 150, then Nintendo will obviously drop the DS to 99. And yeah, expensive PSP games means that I'll really make sure the game is good before i go out and buy one.[/quote]


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
[quote name='guessed'][quote name='LowTecky']If PSP is 150, then Nintendo will obviously drop the DS to 99. And yeah, expensive PSP games means that I'll really make sure the game is good before i go out and buy one.[/quote]


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:[/quote]

I don't get it.
 
I find it very hard to believe that with less than two months to ge before launch that they're still wrangling over price.

If they're serious about a $50 price point for PSP games then I gues I'm no longer saving up to buy one this year. I'll wait until the first few dozen titles have aged sufficiently to get deep discounts. And even then I'll wait for something like a Circuit City blowout to build a start library before buying the hardware.

It's one thing to need a high attach rate like the Xbox to overcome the subsidizing of the hardware. The games are no more expensive than the competition and it is incumbent upon Microsoft to make Xbox games attractive enough to sell as needed. To actually raise game prices to compensate for hardware losses is unacceptable. By that system consumers will still be paying a hardware subsidy tax long after they've bought enough games for Sony to break even on the hardware. Not the way to win my business, Kaz.
 
[quote name='TJordan522'][quote name='guessed'][quote name='LowTecky']If PSP is 150, then Nintendo will obviously drop the DS to 99.[/quote]


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:[/quote]

I don't get it.[/quote]

Yeah, sorry, I realized after I posted that I quoted too much and made the joke harder to see. Does that help?
 
Sounds awkward as you would think they would only get a pretty small cut from 3rd party titles. Regardless any portable system making me buy games for $50 each can kiss this sale goodbye...
 
Remember the 3rd parties still have to grant them a chunk for the production of UMDs. so the cut of a $50 game will likely be better than the cut from a DVD which costs much less to produce.

If the games are as deep as a console game and artn direct ports I'll buy them (granted we're all CAGs here and I doubt anyone will be paying full price too often!) As it stands Darkstalkers wont be one of the titles I buy but RidgeRacer and MGA are original enough.

Not that I'm 100% ready to beleive the news, I mean hell I could come up with a similar story in 15 minutes that would be equally believable so it's not impossible for you to be lying without actual proof. But as I said it IS believable and with the launch of something like the PSP for sony I can definatly see them confrensing up until the last minute on prices.

If any of this is true I expect there to be budget titles for the PSP just as there are for the PS2 by the second year. I do NOT however see Nintendo dropping the DS to 99 bucks anytimes soon. a 50 dollar drop would be shooting themselves in the foot. If a big bruiser fakes a punch at you and you flinched you be known as a bitch for the rest of your life and Nintendo already knows this (quitely points at N64) They have close to 3 million units sold at 150, so the system will sell at the price, but now they need an insentive so they'll either give you a free game with the purchase of a DS or maybe something like a $125 pricetag, those are the only options they can have without eroading confidence.
 
The problem with this is though, is that if they sell the consoles that low they have a much higher risk. I'm sure many are buying PSP for its portable movie/music playing capabilities, and if they udnerestimate the amount of people who do this and do not buy games then they will see huge losses.
 
I couldn't be less excited about the PSP and the DS. Lets see some great games and then I'll worry about price. Right now if they are both $150 that's fine but there's reall nothing worth playing yet... castlevania DS looks pretty cool though...
 
[quote name='ananag112']I hope this is true, I would really buy one at that price. The sad thing however is that Nintendo will be in trouble and I would hate Nintendo to go the way of SEGA.[/quote]

GOOD! BYE BYE nintendo, do something new OR DIE. stop making the same games you've made for the past 8 years.

anyways with the anti-nintendo rant out of the way. The psp is not going to see a $150 price tag. $200 at the lowest for the standard pack.

and fyi for no one whose noticed it the psp is going to sell a ton the day it comes out and a good 30% will be faulty in some way. sony releases stuff that's better becuase they sacrafice quality(only in the videogame section, everything else kicks ass)
 
For what it's worth, a few PSP games already show up in our upcoming inventory list at work (EB) - and they're all priced at $49.99. Obviously, that's not a guarantee on the final price, but it certainly makes it more likely. Also, the new February EB catalog lists the stand-alone PSP system at $150. We've been told to tell customers that the price is not final yet either and the catalog went to print months ago before confirmation, etc., etc., but everything I've seen tends to back up the story of the OP.
 
I know for a fact that they are still muttering about what price 2 months before release date there is another conference call tomorrow concerning this ~ jason

quote from my brother says it all

"You tell your guys on the board that, believe it or not, Sony listens to they're fans. If they are upset about paying $199 Sony will do its hardest to release the thing for $150. My personal guess is that the Value pack will be released here in the states at $179 and the system will release at $149. Keep in mind that, except for the LCD, everything was developed in house. We still have overhead to pay for the R & D, but we'll make that up in different products that we'll be introducing later this year. I.E Consumer/Games. Also tell your boardies that dont expect anything on PS3 at this years E3, sorry guys!"

Got off phone literally.........now
 
Thanks for the info...I don't understand why people here are having a problem with $50 games....first of all, the website is called cheap ass gamer, we are all here for cheap games, so it kind of makes sense that the majority of those that visit this site to wait for a price drop on the games...2nd of all aren't the DS games priced between $29.99 and $39.99...a $10 difference, but I don't remeber seeing people complain that heavily about the price of the ds games...sony should look at the lack of games sold by nintendo DS launch, and rethink their pricing policy on games
 
Even if the games are $50, they won't be that way forever. I'm sure there will eventually be "greatest hits" games of some sort. Also you can go rent them and keep them for two weeks at BB now.
 
One thing i dont get is, You guys want games that look like PS2 games in your hands. They cost more to develop than a Nintendo 64 game (COUGH ds games COUGH) but you wouldn't pay $50 ? I guess i'm not THAT cheap of a gamer.
 
[quote name='Maynard']One thing i dont get is, You guys want games that look like PS2 games in your hands. They cost more to develop than a Nintendo 64 game (COUGH ds games COUGH) but you wouldn't pay $50 ? I guess i'm not THAT cheap of a gamer.[/quote]

I've played with a PSP and the graphics are more like a low-end Dreamcast than a PS2.
 
As anti-Sony (as a company as a whole) as I am, I'm still a gamer and tech-geek. What sold me on the PSP was the ability to put movies and music onto a ::blech:: MemoryStick and use it as a media player. Judging by the prices of the games, that's pretty much all I'll use it for. And for the record, I don't like the $40 price tags on third-party DS games. In fact, I don't like $30 GBA games, but am fine with $25 ones; yes, that $5 makes all the difference.

Any way, I think I'll wait for at least wait for the third-generation hardware so most of the kinks get worked out.

I know the PSP will sell like hotcakes at a $150 price. People generally aren't smart enough to do math on recurring expenses to realize how much they'll actually be investing, when you consider the price of games. Though it may seem like a horrible business move that will alienate potential customers, we're only a small portion of the market. Most people will be suckered in by the low intial cost and will be practically forced to buy games at any price, lest their hardware go to waste. I mean, they're not going to throw away something all the cool kids on the playground consider sexy.
 
While all this info sounded like it could quite possibly be true, one thing caught me.
[quote name='Maynard']Also tell your boardies that dont expect anything on PS3 at this years E3, sorry guys!"[/quote]
Now this just sounded a bit weird to me since Microsoft and Nintendo are looking to drop info on their new systems at this years E3 and not deciding to give any details on the PS3 at E3 would be putting Sony at a major disadvantage. Hell even Sony has stated that they should have a playable PS3 build by May.

"Sony Computer Entertainment Inc., a subsidiary of Sony that deals with consoles and digital entertainment, reportedly said its PlayStation 3 console will be functional by May, 2005, confirming earlier available information.

“Sony has cryptically announced that the PlayStation 3 will be in playable form at E3 in May. Additionally, Sony will make an announcement about the system at the end of March,” a report over Voodoo Extreme web-site says.

While currently it is unclear whether there are any actual titles to showcase by May at E3 show, or the company plans to roll-out certain tech demos. However, the information confirms Sony’s earlier announced milestones for the console."
(See article here)

Not sure how valid your PSP info is, but we will see how it all pans out pretty soon.
 
[quote name='Maynard']One thing i dont get is, You guys want games that look like PS2 games in your hands. They cost more to develop than a Nintendo 64 game (COUGH ds games COUGH) but you wouldn't pay $50 ? I guess i'm not THAT cheap of a gamer.[/quote]

Exactly - I see it as paying 50$ for a PS2 game I can carry in my pocket.
 
This is gonna be the Xbox of the Portable Market.
Successfull but looses BILLIONS!!

If people recall Nintendo lowered the price of the Gamcube to $150 like 6 months after launch and they will most likely do the same with the DS.

I personally hope things go well for sony considering i own 200+ ps2&ps1 games but it's not looking good.
 
The GC wasnt selling as well as the DS is selling. if they do drop the price it will be minimal.


The techies might say they'll have if for E3 but whether it gets shown to anyone is still up to the headcheeses. It might be a back room deal on ly for other bigcheeses like someof the stuff from last E3. There were a couple of games my friend got in to see that he said he had to sign a non disclosure agreement to see. He told me about one of them and I've still yet to see word of it.

But even if they did have it for E3 They're probably just waiting to see what the competition will do so they can drop something better and steal their thunder. They have first place this Generation they arnet in any rush.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']Thanks for the info...I don't understand why people here are having a problem with $50 games....first of all, the website is called cheap ass gamer, we are all here for cheap games, so it kind of makes sense that the majority of those that visit this site to wait for a price drop on the games...2nd of all aren't the DS games priced between $29.99 and $39.99...a $10 difference, but I don't remeber seeing people complain that heavily about the price of the ds games...sony should look at the lack of games sold by nintendo DS launch, and rethink their pricing policy on games[/quote]

I don't think it's necessarily that people are cheap and that's why they are upset at the $50 price point. I think it's because we've always knew that portable games weren't as good as console games. Because of this, they should be priced lower than a console game.

But now that the PSP is introducing portable games that look almost as good as console games, it kinda makes more sense that they are more expensive. However, that doesn't mean the majority of the gaming public will accept this. I know I won't. I'll either wait for a game to drop to $20-$30, or just pass on it all together.
 
If i can buy BRAND NEW ps2 and xbox games the day they are released for $35-$40 why in the hell would i buy a PSP game for $50?!?!
 
[quote name='fireball343']GOOD! BYE BYE nintendo, do something new OR DIE. stop making the same games you've made for the past 8 years.
[/quote]

If it's not broke, why fix it? Microsoft will be churning out Halo titles years from now. They've tried new titles that failed. You seem to be in the minority on this one..

[quote name='fireball343'] The psp is not going to see a $150 price tag. $200 at the lowest for the standard pack. [/quote]

You say it like you're someone from the future..

[quote name='fireball343']sony releases stuff that's better becuase they sacrafice quality[/quote]

I'm really, really confused on this statement. If they sacrifice quality, how is it better?
 
you guys whining about the $50 are dingleberries! What good CAG ever pays full price for a game anyway?!?! :p I reckon we'll do what we always do - buy the must-have personal-favorite titles when they are on sale as "new-releases" and then wait for deep cuts/sales on other games. :cool:
 
that would be amazing if it did but IMO iI think we are looking at a $200 + accessories

i hope you are aright though..thanks for the post
 
[quote name='organicow']you guys whining about the $50 are dingleberries! What good CAG ever pays full price for a game anyway?!?! :p I reckon we'll do what we always do - buy the must-have personal-favorite titles when they are on sale as "new-releases" and then wait for deep cuts/sales on other games. :cool:[/quote]

I know your post was light hearted but the fact that the retail price for a portable game is the same as a console game pisses me off. We can't just accept the fact (if true) that the PSP games will be retailing at $50 and we will all wait for sales and price cuts. We've all come to expect that portable games cost less than console games. I expect that to continue if Sony wants any of my money.
 
[quote name='Scorch']
[quote name='fireball343']sony releases stuff that's better becuase they sacrafice quality[/quote]

I'm really, really confused on this statement. If they sacrifice quality, how is it better?[/quote]

They sacriface quality of the product, When the PS2 came out they used plastic lenses on the dvd drives, those are crappy and cheap, many ps2's were faulty and returned and all ps2's now have glass lenses. The PSP already is out in Japan, faulty disc doors, dead pixels on the lcd (common problem with lcd in general, but a large amount of complaints) even an assembly error (according to magazines and websites) with the analog stick and buttons causing problems.

When i first starting insulting sony for this, it was basicaly an insult coming from someone who looks at them like EA. (ea is still worse) but a week later i realized that i would not buy a sony console/videogame realted product because of errors and at least wait a year after relase
beforei bought anything.

My problem with nintendo is, keep giving me the same game every year with new levels, fine, But while you do that, come up with a new inovative game better than Donkey Konga or a real game. And maybe an FPS a real FPS fan can enjoy, or at least a control setup one can enjoy.

I hate nintendo, used to love them, but the gamecube has made sooo little advancement, i really could care less for them. and for Sony i just wish they would release a console with more realiability, I've never gotten a Disc error with my xbox, but i have two first party s controllers that have "sticky" analogs and triggers. I'm not pro-xbox anti-sony, anti-nintendo
I'm pro-game console with games i like, anti-baby game console and anti-popular bandwagon
 
Does anyone remember the GBA games being $50 when they first came out? I sure as hell do 'cause I shelled $50 on Street Fighter and my parents did for Golden Sun.
 
You know it wouldn't surprise me if it plays out that way. The N has dominated the market for a long time and has fought off many other systems. Sony probably believes it needs to make big waves to get their foot in the door and won't mind losing some money at first to seize some of the market
 
[quote name='Sway'][quote name='organicow']you guys whining about the $50 are dingleberries! What good CAG ever pays full price for a game anyway?!?! :p I reckon we'll do what we always do - buy the must-have personal-favorite titles when they are on sale as "new-releases" and then wait for deep cuts/sales on other games. :cool:[/quote]

I know your post was light hearted but the fact that the retail price for a portable game is the same as a console game pisses me off. We can't just accept the fact (if true) that the PSP games will be retailing at $50 and we will all wait for sales and price cuts. We've all come to expect that portable games cost less than console games. I expect that to continue if Sony wants any of my money.[/quote]

Oh, I know what you mean - its just that we've been at the $50 price point for new console releases for a while now. I wouldn't be a bit surprised (i think its been mentioned more than once here) to see $60 new release tags on the next gen console games, so therefore it seems only natural for the cost of portable games to go up as well. Yeah it sucks, but to me it will be worth it to spend the extra $$ (or wait longer for the markdown) IF I'm getting a higher quality portable game...which we will see about... :lol:
 
Guys, guys, y'all are freaking out about the PSP game price when GBA games costed the same price when they first came out!


Edit: Shit, my bad. I didn't think I posted because I didn't recognize my post because my sig isn't showing up. I just realized that now.
 
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