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Raiden IV LE Contents:
  • Raiden IV the game
  • An exclusive soundtrack along which includes remixes from INH (Insanity Naked Hunter) composers Go Sato and Akira Sato.

http://www.amazon.com/Raiden-IV-Lim..._1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1251578723&sr=1-1

SO I go to Amazon and see that it says "Raiden IV Limited Edition" and has a picture of the soundtrack disc with it. Yes. I get to burn Gamestop again. Too bad the game has been delayed till OCTOBER 18th. *sigh* So after Amazon's discounted price of $36.99 I used a $5 general credit that Amazon gave me since they didn't give me my $5 mp3 credit. And then $3.70 because of my ECA membership. Comes out to $28.29. Consider my support pledged!





I will note that Gamestop preorders get a special bonus:

Reserve Raiden IV and receive a GameStop exclusive PDF art book entitled Raiden IV Secret File. This exclusive PDF art book includes includes player ship specifications, enemy combat data, strategies for the game, and concept art.

Online / In-Store Customers:A link to the GameStop exclusive PDF art book will come packaged with the game.
But you are paying full price + tax for something that will probably be free to find online later. :whistle2:/
 
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Ooooh, an LE for a shooter. I am tempted.

And a .PDF artbook? Am I reading this right? As in loading it up on your computer and looking at it in Adobe Acrobat? :rofl:
 
I think this is going to bomb. Bomb harder then KOF did on the 360, hell I bet it bombs harder then Battle Fantasia... ok maybe not that hard.

But seriously, why price this at $40 when Fighter Aces was $20? Not only that I can probably run through this game in an hour or less?

It's no Ikaruga from what I've previewed.

It should be on XBLA for $15 if they wanna go that route.
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']I think this is going to bomb. Bomb harder then KOF did on the 360, hell I bet it bombs harder then Battle Fantasia... ok maybe not that hard.

[/QUOTE]

I think Battle Fantasia sold better than KoFXII.

More on topic though, wish it came in a steel case. Will probably get it when it gets a little cheaper.
 
Raiden 4 is a much newer game than the Raiden Fighters series. I guess that's why they released it all by its lonesome. But the CD really adds a lot of value to this purchase. The Raiden series has great music.
 
Don't ever compare this masterpiece series to Ikaruga. Plus if you were to import it, the cost would be about $70 so this is definitely a deal, but I'm sure it will drop in a month. And I agree about the series having great music
 
Guys. You whining about it not being on XBLA does not put it on XBLA. And like someone said, it is expensive to import shmups. We need to show that we want these games. Sure it's going to drop in price but $37 is still a great deal for a translated recent shmup with the damn soundtrack.

I mean if Thunderforce VI came out here would you all still complain about a $40 price tag?
 
[quote name='FurryCurry']Guys. You whining about it not being on XBLA does not put it on XBLA. And like someone said, it is expensive to import shmups. We need to show that we want these games. Sure it's going to drop in price but $37 is still a great deal for a translated recent shmup with the damn soundtrack.

I mean if Thunderforce VI came out here would you all still complain about a $40 price tag?[/QUOTE]

Agreed. But damn, Play Asia had that going for 40 for a while and I didn't buy it :bomb:
 
Bitch bitch bitch. Moan moan moan. Count me among the folks who seriously dig Raiden and don't have an issue laying down $40 for this. (Wouldn't mind paying less, though.)

And if you can run through this game in a hour from cracking open the shrinkwrap you're either seriously gifted at shmups or beating the continue button like a redheadded stepchild and missing the point of a game like this. And I'll bet I know which it is. :p
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']But seriously, why price this at $40 when Fighter Aces was $20? Not only that I can probably run through this game in an hour or less?[/QUOTE]

You don't play shmups to beat them, you play them for high score. To get the highest score possible you have to beat the game with one credit. Think you can do that in an hour? Maybe after you've played it everyday for a few months. So basically shmups like Raiden IV have near infinite replay value, which makes paying $40 a steal. I'd easily pay twice that amount.
 
Ikaruga is terribly overrated. RFA was better.

Rating this from experience, the only Raiden game I've played is Raiden 3, which wasn't exactly something I'd come back to. If this was Castle Shikigami, I'd be all over it. But it isn't.
 
[quote name='chilimac']You don't play shmups to beat them; you play them for high score. To get the highest score possible, you have to beat the game with one credit. Think you can do that in 1 hour? Maybe after you've played it everyday for a few months. So basically shmups like Raiden IV have near infinite replay value, which makes paying $40 a steal. I'd easily pay twice that amount.[/QUOTE]
That depends on how much fun and how rewarding the scoring system is. Raiden 3's scoring system wasn't that much fun. It wasn't quite as awful as Ikaruga's chaining, but it was up there.

Sometimes, it's better just to hedge your bets and play the game with the goal of continuing fewer times next time you go through it.
 
[quote name='RollingSkull']Rating this from experience, the only Raiden game I've played is Raiden 3, which wasn't exactly something I'd come back to.[/QUOTE] From the six Raiden games I've played, part 3 is the worst. Hopefully you will give RFA a try and before you write the series off.
 
[quote name='Diebythesword']Don't ever compare this masterpiece series to Ikaruga. Plus if you were to import it, the cost would be about $70 so this is definitely a deal, but I'm sure it will drop in a month. And I agree about the series having great music[/QUOTE]

GIven your tag-name.. yeah ill agree w/ ya ;) . I do have the import version of Raiden IV. Given the fact that the american 360 shmup record is horrible compared to the Japan market but its improving.. Even at $36.99 its still a fantastic buy, I do envision seeing this at $19.99 for a new/gutted copy at Gamestop sometime by the middle of next year. If you like shmups then obviously go for it. Alot of shmups could possible be released on DLC but I still prefer to own the media disc. Thats my 2Yen. I wonder if these companies can continue to bring other shmups to America. If one of them can bring Death Smiles I'd consider that major win.

Some of you know how these shmups get released... Limited quantities. So gamble w/ the price difference. Now I cant find a copy of raiden fighters aces on the shelf anywhere..
 
The amount of retarded posts in this thread hurts my brain.

Ikaruga and the Raiden series are both great. You can't really compare the two, and you should know that if you're a true shmup fan.

[quote name='RollingSkull']Ikaruga is terribly overrated.[/QUOTE]
No not really, sucking at the game horribly is not a reason for a game to be overrated.

Thanks for the heads up OP, I'm getting this.
 
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[quote name='Thrinn']From the six Raiden games I've played, part 3 is the worst. Hopefully you will give RFA a try and before you write the series off.[/QUOTE]
I did. I very much enjoyed RFA even though I wished the bosses lasted more than 9 seconds on average.

I'm sorry though. Anything above $30 is a tough sell for an arcade shooter. I could eat anything Castle Shikigami throws at me simply because it has 70 or so different dialogue sets for the story with each character combo you can take, giving you something to work for alongside grinding against the game's tough as nails patterns. It's a small, silly thing, but it keeps me coming back.

Of course, I dropped $20 on RFA and have only dropped 3 or 4 hours on it so far according to the in-game clock, but I still feel I got and shall continue to milk my money's worth out of the package.

[quote name='salazarmark']The amount of retarded posts in this thread hurts my brain.

Ikaruga and the Raiden series are both great. You can't really compare the two, and you should know that if you're a true shmup fan.


No not really, sucking at the game horribly is not a reason for a game to be overrated.[/QUOTE]
Leave the trolling crap on 4chan or GameFAQs, okay?
 
[quote name='salazarmark']No not really, sucking at the game horribly is not a reason for a game to be overrated.[/QUOTE] Try not to resort to personal attacks just because someone has a different opinion of a game.
 
No online coop = no buy.

And had it had online coop, I would have gladly dropped 40 on it.
 
Well go ahead and pay $37 for it. If It's worth it to you then buy it.

If I hurt your feelings saying It's not worth $37 then I'm sorry but this is CAG. We pay as little as possible, and I'll gladly wait till this is $20.

How many Original XBox games held their value? How many 360 games? Name a five games that have been out for near a year and have retained their value since being released on the 360. Raiden IV will be about as niche as Battle Fantasia and/or KOF and will be found on sale within a few months - those months I'm willing to wait.
 
Problem with your argument is that any deal on a new game that isn't at least $15 off isn't a deal and this forum suggests that anything less than msrp on a new item before it comes out is a deal and in fact worthy of the attention of other CAGs. The true issue here is how the value of the shmup has changed over the years. Most people just see the genre as not being worth more than afternoon of play with only $5-$20 invested into it. I mean let's all forget the fact that shmups are niche market with most of the new product coming out of Japan with no real distribution channel for abroad. Let's gloss over the fact that Japanese gamers are probably paying the same that we are once it comes over here.

So I'm glad some of you realize that this is a deal, regardless of if it drops in price later or not.
 
I'll dig in to the fact that anything below MSRP to a certain point is a deal - $10 to $15 off I'll agree. I think this would be more of a deal if it was $30 and $40 everywhere else, or came with something outside of a PDF file.
 
Even $1 off is a deal - it's just less of a deal. If I want something now, I'd sure rather pay $37 than $40 for it.

BTW Raiden 3 is actually the worst of the series. Raiden 1, 2, and especially DX (a revamp of 2) are all fantastic. The game's music has a lot more personality than Ikaruga's, although the art style is admittedly just as generic.
 
I put in my pre-order awhile back so I'm straight. I grew up playing these types of games in the arcade and love the feeling of nostalgia when I pop them in and toss a controller to my buddy next to me.

I admit that RFA was a better deal price-wise but I will always support this genre because I want them to know that there is an audience here in the states that still appreciates these kinds of games that way they'll keep releasing them.
 
[quote name='LeRoy']I put in my pre-order awhile back so I'm straight. I grew up playing these types of games in the arcade and love the feeling of nostalgia when I pop them in and toss a controller to my buddy next to me.

I admit that RFA was a better deal price-wise but I will always support this genre because I want them to know that there is an audience here in the states that still appreciates these kinds of games that way they'll keep releasing them.[/QUOTE]

Well said. ^^

In for 1, thanks OP.
 
[quote name='JDMxB']No online coop = no buy.

And had it had online coop, I would have gladly dropped 40 on it.[/QUOTE]

The Japanese version doesn't have online co-op either. :cry:
 
Everyone who complained about the price.... #-o

Do you realize how rare it is for these kind of games to get localized?
RFA was a miracle, and this one is a small one too. I look to you people as to why we'll probably never get some of the more niche shooters out of Japan.

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So Amazon has the LE too?
GS has it listed for 9-3 though... who is right?
 
I bet Amazon is right on the date.

^^^And it's like $33 after the ECA discount. $40 for a SHMUP is too much for you and not for anything else.
 
I saw this about a week ago; it's a decent deal with a 10% off code. I was a little skeptical pre-ordering from Amazon since it's the only site with the later release date, but Kotaku confirmed it's been delayed until October.

Does anyone have an idea on how small the production run is for the NA release of this game?

As far as I'm aware, the only edition is the LE.

Shmups aren't in that big of a demand in North America...I'd hate to miss out on this while waiting for it to drop to $20.


btw, wouldn't a neighborhood Amazon be unfriendly by nature, since that would mandate sales tax (ala Dell)?
 
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It's an arcade game that uses a vertical monitor. When played normally, the borders preserve the original aspect ratio.
But most vertical shooters have a tate mode, in which the monitor can be turned on its side and the game will take up the whole screen.

In other words, that wasn't a valid complaint.
 
[quote name='dallow']Everyone who complained about the price.... #-o

Do you realize how rare it is for these kind of games to get localized?
RFA was a miracle, and this one is a small one too. I look to you people as to why we'll probably never get some of the more niche shooters out of Japan.[/QUOTE]

Look away then. If you can't offer a product that the buyers will value at the price you set, then get out.

I bought RFA day one and enjoyed it immensely, but considering how many shmups there are out there, especially factoring in the shmups in the PC indie game community (It seems like everyone and their dog thinks they can make one.), I won't lose any sleep if we don't see another Dodonpachi.
 
[quote name='RollingSkull']Look away then. If you can't offer a product that the buyers will value at the price you set, then get out.

I bought RFA day one and enjoyed it immensely, but considering how many shmups there are out there, especially factoring in the shmups in the PC indie game community (It seems like everyone and their dog thinks they can make one.), I won't lose any sleep if we don't see another Dodonpachi.[/QUOTE]
You aren't the only buyer, and neither is the rest of CAG (myself included).
 
[quote name='RollingSkull']Look away then. If you can't offer a product that the buyers will value at the price you set, then get out.

I bought RFA day one and enjoyed it immensely, but considering how many shmups there are out there, especially factoring in the shmups in the PC indie game community (It seems like everyone and their dog thinks they can make one.), I won't lose any sleep if we don't see another Dodonpachi.[/QUOTE] Why is this thread of any interest to you? You don't seem to be that big of a shmup fan and you aren't that interested in this particular deal.
 
[quote name='Thrinn']Why is this thread of any interest to you? You don't seem to be that big of a shmup fan and you aren't that interested in this particular deal.[/QUOTE]

First, it's $3 off the retail -- it's not like this is that big of a deal in the first place.

Second, the prior Raiden Fighters comp gave you 3 games for $20. This is 1 game for $40 (or $37).

IMO the price is definitely too high, it's definitely a valid complaint to make for what they are delivering in this release.
 
[quote name='phantomfriar2002']First, it's $3 off the retail -- it's not like this is that big of a deal in the first place.

Second, the prior Raiden Fighters comp gave you 3 games for $20. This is 1 game for $40 (or $37).

IMO the price is definitely too high, it's definitely a valid complaint to make for what they are delivering in this release.[/QUOTE]

Raiden Fighters (1996), Raiden Fighters 2: Operation Hell Dive (1997), and Raiden Fighters Jet (1998).

All released over ten years ago.

Raiden IV was released to arcades in 2007. Got ported almost a year ago (it will be in October).


Why wouldn't Raiden IV be at least $40 on a next gen console? If it were last gen it would have been $30. It's a new shmup. It's not old as the Fighters series (and you could argue that that compilation is too much because you could get a bunch of shooters on a Taito compilation already) or the first two Raiden games. And guess what, Raiden III was sold for $30 when it was released in 2007 here in NA. http://www.amazon.com/Raiden-3-Play..._1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1251820711&sr=8-1

So please, for us who understand, be quiet.
 
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So please, for us who understand, be quiet.
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As much of an ass as you are, I actually appreciate the pricing lesson, but it doesn't change the fact it's still $40 for one shmup. It's still too much. And sorry, I'm not going to be quiet about complaining I'm not getting enough for my money. This IS CAG, isn't it?
 
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