Raiden IV for $36.99 @ Your Friendly Neighborhood Amazon

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Raiden IV LE Contents:
  • Raiden IV the game
  • An exclusive soundtrack along which includes remixes from INH (Insanity Naked Hunter) composers Go Sato and Akira Sato.

http://www.amazon.com/Raiden-IV-Lim..._1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1251578723&sr=1-1

SO I go to Amazon and see that it says "Raiden IV Limited Edition" and has a picture of the soundtrack disc with it. Yes. I get to burn Gamestop again. Too bad the game has been delayed till OCTOBER 18th. *sigh* So after Amazon's discounted price of $36.99 I used a $5 general credit that Amazon gave me since they didn't give me my $5 mp3 credit. And then $3.70 because of my ECA membership. Comes out to $28.29. Consider my support pledged!





I will note that Gamestop preorders get a special bonus:

Reserve Raiden IV and receive a GameStop exclusive PDF art book entitled Raiden IV Secret File. This exclusive PDF art book includes includes player ship specifications, enemy combat data, strategies for the game, and concept art.

Online / In-Store Customers:A link to the GameStop exclusive PDF art book will come packaged with the game.
But you are paying full price + tax for something that will probably be free to find online later. :whistle2:/
 
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I'd like to call on everyone to boycott this game. The DLC is totally out of hand. The game barely has any content to begin with, and then you have to pay extra to unlock ships that are already on the disk.
 
[quote name='JCDenton']I'd like to call on everyone to boycott this game. The DLC is totally out of hand.[/QUOTE]


It's two dollars.
 
After a shot Amazon a slightly angry email about my order, it has now shipped. I like the explanation they gave me and how they would usually alert someone about their order being delayed a MONTH but they have copies in and I'm getting my game friday. PS. I'm broke.
 
[quote name='JCDenton']I'd like to call on everyone to boycott this game. The DLC is totally out of hand. The game barely has any content to begin with, and then you have to pay extra to unlock ships that are already on the disk.[/QUOTE]Boycott? Maybe if the game reaches Madden-like proportions when it comes to amount of nickel-and-dimeing DLC.
 
[quote name='Sardoose']It's two dollars.[/QUOTE]

In my mind, that actually makes it worse. I already paid almost $40 for the game, why should I be forced to pay an extra $2 to unlock content that should have been part of the game originally? I have no problem with DLC that goes well beyond standard game content, like whole new campaigns in Fallout 3 or GTA IV, but selling me stuff I should already own is pure greed and shouldn't be supported.
 
[quote name='JCDenton']I'd like to call on everyone to boycott this game. The DLC is totally out of hand. The game barely has any content to begin with, and then you have to pay extra to unlock ships that are already on the disk.[/QUOTE]

I think the best thing to do in this type of situation is to boycott the DLC, and not the game. That sends the message that the game is good and worthy of purchase, but the DLC isn't. If enough people don't buy the add-ons, the developers will get the message.

Not buying the game itself only tells the dev that you don't like that type of game at all.
 
If it makes you feel any better, you aren't missing much if that $2 bugs you so much. Yep, it's annoying but it's not like anything substancial is missing from the game without it.
 
Yeah, $2 is no big deal. If you want more ships, it doesn't hurt the wallet much. If you don't care about the ships, they're easy to ignore.

Mine shipped from Amazon today. :)
 
[quote name='allyourblood']I think the best thing to do in this type of situation is to boycott the DLC, and not the game. That sends the message that the game is good and worthy of purchase, but the DLC isn't. If enough people don't buy the add-ons, the developers will get the message.

Not buying the game itself only tells the dev that you don't like that type of game at all.[/QUOTE]

This man speaks the truth. Support the shmups and at least buy the game.
 
[quote name='addicted2games']This man speaks the truth. Support the shmups and at least buy the game.[/QUOTE]

I'll support the shmups that don't pull this shit. The dollar amount doesn't matter, it's the principle that when I buy a game, I expect to get the whole game. Raiden IV is already pretty thin on content as many reviewers have noted, so they should be doing everything they can to improve its replay value. One selectable ship is just pathetic.

Also, it's stupid to just boycott the DLC but not the game. If you don't punish them, there's no incentive for them to not do it in the future. They get your money, and they get to sell the DLC. But if you boycott the game, they need to think about if they'll sell 40 ship DLC's for every person who gets pissed and refuses to buy the game because of it.
 
[quote name='JCDenton']One selectable ship is just pathetic.
[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that really ruined my enjoyment of Raiden 1 & 2. :roll:

[quote name='JCDenton']
If you don't punish them, there's no incentive for them to not do it in the future.
[/QUOTE]

The only one who's punished in that scenario is you. You don't get to play Raiden 4, people with sense do.
 
JC, if you are a Shumps fan, you are in no position to be picky. They want to do crappy little DLC for 2.00? Who cares? You got a Shump released in America! I mean it's better to not do the DLC, sure, I agree with you. But, how often does a shump come to the US?
 
[quote name='JCDenton']If you don't punish them, there's no incentive for them to not do it in the future.[/QUOTE]


"Them"? Who do you mean? Moss, the developer of exactly two games over the last five years, and who will probably never make another Xbox 360 game? Or UFO, a super-niche publisher who has never published an Xbox 360 game before and has zero say in how DLC is handled in a localized game anyway?

Yeah! Let's teach "them" to not charge two whole dollars for DLC in all those games "they're" not going to make from now on! Wooooo!

(My copy from Amazon still hasn't shipped :( )
 
[quote name='Friend of Sonic']JC, if you are a Shumps fan, you are in no position to be picky. They want to do crappy little DLC for 2.00? Who cares? You got a Shump released in America! I mean it's better to not do the DLC, sure, I agree with you. But, how often does a shump come to the US?[/QUOTE]

Pretty frequently actually. Between all the Live Arcade releases and all the stuff that has come out or will come out on the Wii, PS2, Gamecube, etc...we have actually gotten quite a few shmups in recent years.
 
[quote name='Sardoose']"Them"? Who do you mean? Moss, the developer of exactly two games over the last five years, and who will probably never make another Xbox 360 game? Or UFO, a super-niche publisher who has never published an Xbox 360 game before and has zero say in how DLC is handled in a localized game anyway?

Yeah! Let's teach "them" to not charge two whole dollars for DLC in all those games "they're" not going to make from now on! Wooooo!

(My copy from Amazon still hasn't shipped :( )[/QUOTE]

Email them. I did and I'll have it friday.
 
[quote name='bojay1997']Pretty frequently actually. Between all the Live Arcade releases and all the stuff that has come out or will come out on the Wii, PS2, Gamecube, etc...we have actually gotten quite a few shmups in recent years.[/QUOTE]

There are tons that we don't get though. And it's far better to get an affordable domestic release than having to import the expensive Japanese versions.
 
[quote name='eastx']Yeah, that really ruined my enjoyment of Raiden 1 & 2. :roll:[/QUOTE]

Are you familiar with the concept that games usually get better and add features over time? There were a lot of things that didn't ruin my enjoyment of River Raid for instance, that would be unacceptable in a new game.

[quote name='eastx']The only one who's punished in that scenario is you. You don't get to play Raiden 4, people with sense do.[/QUOTE]

I already have about 40 shooters that are better than Raiden IV, and it would be a huge stretch to say it's even in the top 100 of all time. This was a mediocre shooter that I only wanted because it was new, it's not a big deal to miss out on it. There is a long list of worthier games out now and coming out. I'll give my money to a game like Muramasa that deserves it, and play one of the many better-than-Raiden IV games that I already own.
 
It's as I thought. You are indeed not a shooter fan, and possibly just trolling. Weaksauce. Nice random plug of Muramasa though.
 
[quote name='eastx']It's as I thought. You are indeed not a shooter fan, and possibly just trolling. Weaksauce. Nice random plug of Muramasa though.[/QUOTE]

I'm gonna have to side with eastx, here. JC, there's nothing wrong with a difference of opinion, but it's pretty evident that your expectations are unrealistic.

Also, it's stupid to just boycott the DLC but not the game.
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No, it's not. You should certainly let developers know that you're not happy with their decision to release overpriced or bogus DLC, but by not buying the game at all, they're not going to arrive at that conclusion, no matter how much you wish they would.

Let's say a video game developer makes a stellar game and a really crappy one and releases both on the same day. You read reviews, play the demos and find out for yourself that one game is utter garbage while the other is GOTY material. If you're upset with the developer for producing the crap title, you don't avoid buying both games to show them. You let the junker languish on the shelf, which sends the message, "I like what you guys are doing over here, but this pile right here needs to go back in the oven, or a hole in the ground."

The same goes here. If the vast majority of players/fans buy the game but not the DLC, the developer is likely going to think to themselves, "Well, obviously there are a lot of shooter fans out there, but I think we bungled things by trying to charge extra on the ships; that was a wasted effort. If we get a chance to create another 360 shooter, let's pack more goodies on the disc and save everyone the trouble and extra expense."

You might think that by buying neither, you're getting your point across, but you're not.
 
JCDenton, you're the person at Gamefaqs ranting about the DLC, aren't you? I find it hard to believe there are multiple people with the same ridiculous ideas.
 
[quote name='allyourblood']I'm gonna have to side with eastx, here. JC, there's nothing wrong with a difference of opinion, but it's pretty evident that your expectations are unrealistic.[/QUOTE]

What expectations? That when I buy a game, I get the whole game? I have to ask, how old are you? My guess is that you are a brainwashed kid raised in the Xbox generation without any understanding of the history of gaming. Things like difficulty levels (Mega Man 9) and extra ships have ALWAYS, up until very recently, been part of the game. Charging for them is a new and different thing that fucks over gamers. If you want to bend over and take it, go ahead, but remember that the only reason companies started this nickel and diming crap in the first place is that people like you are dumb enough to put up with it. When I buy a game, I expect to get a GAME, not a platform that I can purchase content for and eventually turn it into a game. Sadly, that's where things are going.

[quote name='allyourblood']Let's say a video game developer makes a stellar game and a really crappy one and releases both on the same day. You read reviews, play the demos and find out for yourself that one game is utter garbage while the other is GOTY material. If you're upset with the developer for producing the crap title, you don't avoid buying both games to show them. You let the junker languish on the shelf, which sends the message, "I like what you guys are doing over here, but this pile right here needs to go back in the oven, or a hole in the ground."

The same goes here. If the vast majority of players/fans buy the game but not the DLC, the developer is likely going to think to themselves, "Well, obviously there are a lot of shooter fans out there, but I think we bungled things by trying to charge extra on the ships; that was a wasted effort. If we get a chance to create another 360 shooter, let's pack more goodies on the disc and save everyone the trouble and extra expense."

You might think that by buying neither, you're getting your point across, but you're not.[/QUOTE]

Your logic is absolutely terrible. First, you lead with a false analogy that has no relevance to the situation at hand. The relation between an incomplete game and the DLC needed to make that game complete is very close. The relationship between two games from the same publisher is tangential at best. Then you (absurdly) go on to assume that buying a game where the developers intentionally gimped the replay value will send them a message that they should put more replay value in their games.
 
Holy shit, JC, shut the fuck up already. If you don't like it, don't buy it. You don't need to make hundreds of posts around the Internet bitching about it. Go play something else.

And allyourblood is 100% correct. Buying the game and not the DLC tells the developer there is a problem with the DLC. Not buying the game tells the developer either that there is something wrong with the game or that you weren't interested in the game at all. When it comes to a niche title like this, they're probably gonna think you just weren't interested in the game at all.
 
[quote name='YOUR BASE']I was right, there couldn't be two people with this horrible logic. I already responded to practically the same post on Gamefaqs two days ago and then you just stopped posting. Here it is in case you missed it: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/detail.php?board=948811&topic=51369837&message=564811040[/QUOTE]

So you're basically a troll on the company payroll doing your best to stop the bleeding from my very effective boycott? Good luck. Wait until the sales figures for Raiden IV come out and we'll see who's laughing.
 
Just as I thought, you couldn't counter my points , so you avoided the whole situation and posted something ridiculous. This just showed everyone that you are trolling, but you aren't very good at it.
 
uMMMMM.... If you guys want to ignore JC its really not that hard!?!?!

Click on name>>>>Ignore>>>>(Name)

On another note, I just received this game today cant wait to play it, get frustrated and say fowl words!!!!
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']I think this is going to bomb. Bomb harder then KOF did on the 360, hell I bet it bombs harder then Battle Fantasia... ok maybe not that hard.

But seriously, why price this at $40 when Fighter Aces was $20? Not only that I can probably run through this game in an hour or less?

It's no Ikaruga from what I've previewed.

It should be on XBLA for $15 if they wanna go that route.[/QUOTE]
This is way better than Ikaruga. I like Ikaruga and all but damn is that game overrated.
 
Why in the world was my post deleted? It was completely non-confrontational.

The post calling my observation "stupid" remains, as do a couple mildly insulting posts, and yet mine gets the boot? Step forth from the shadows, sneaky mod!
 
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