Refurbished 60GB PS3 $273 @ Newegg [OOS]

This is a funny thread. If you want BC then find an old 60 . . . if you don't than sobeit.

I did some research. I had bought a 60 back in July 07 and got a great deal . . .

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144015&page=8

$430 ($500 new - $40 off coupon - $50 free dual shock returned + tax) . . . it sat for 4-5 months unopened because the software was so poor and I wasn't excited about BRs. In fact, I netted an extra $80ish because they had a 5 free BRs by mail promo (and I flipped them when they came). I finally sold the still-sealed 60 near Xmas for $700. The profit was meager . . . mostly I felt bad about tying up so much money on a system I had no immediate plans to open.

After getting a better TV, I got a non-BC PS3 in late 2008 for less than $200 net . . .

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203507&page=11

It was $400 (free ship and no tax) - $100 (when buying LBP--which my kids are still playing and 2 BRs) -$150 rebate for buying on a Sony card . . . plus I got Resistance 2 CE and some cables (Amazon BF deal). I flipped the BRs and Resistance. Plus the PS3 games I was finally interested in Ratchet, Uncharted . . . were finally dropping in price.

I played the PS2 until I got the PS3 and now I hardly need it but have my trustly slim for BC.

Man I love CAG
 
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I frankly don't get the controversy in getting a BC PS3 or not. If you want to play PS2 games, then you can buy a PS3 Slim and use the PS2 you have or buy a PS2. Or just buy the PS3 BC model. BC is only a big deal at the launch of a new system, as each day goes by, it becomes less important. Do you think MS is still adding to their list of BC has on the 360? Uh, nope. THe console makers IMHO do this because they think of all the kids asking their moms for a new PS3 and then there mom says "what are you going to do with all those old games I bought?" and the kid replies that the new machine works on those as well. It's not a issue now because they don't really make many PS2 games anymore, if at all.

But if you want to play those PS2 games and dust them off, which I occasionally do you need a PS2 or one with BC. A lot of people simply don't have the room for all these wires and consoles, which is why the PS3 BC makes sense for them - why have more wires running behind your TV than necessary? The PS3 BC is a terrific all-in-one machine. It plays DVD, CD's, BlueRays, PS3 games, and PS2 games, and PS1 games, streams Netflix, and makes great waffles.
 
[quote name='bsesb2003']I frankly don't get the controversy in getting a BC PS3 or not. If you play or want to play PS2 games, then you can buy a PS3 Slim and use the PS2 you have or buy a PS2.

A lot of people simply don't have the room for all these wires and consoles - why have more wires running behind your TV than necessary. The PS3 BC is a terrific all-in-one machine. It plays DVD, CD's, BlueRays, PS3 games, and PS2 games, streams Netflix, and makes great waffles.[/QUOTE]

it is a great value indeed. at this price I would pick it up. Dont have any ps2 games though
 
[quote name='bsesb2003']
A lot of people simply don't have the room for all these wires and consoles, which is why the PS3 BC makes sense for them - why have more wires running behind your TV than necessary? The PS3 BC is a terrific all-in-one machine. [/QUOTE]

Makes you wonder why Sony hasn't kept a premium hardware BC system in production . . . For a company struggling for 2nd place in the console wars . . .
 
Since it's now OOS. When my friend decided he wanted a BC 60 gig a while back he went on ebay and bought one of the broken ones for fifty bucks (he bought a broken disc spinner model but a YLOD one would work just as well).

And then he called Sony and said his ps3 was broken. They asked if he wanted a newer model, he said no he wanted another 60. They charged him 170 dollars, he mailed it in, and a couple weeks later got a refurbished 60 gig with BC straight from sony.
 
[quote name='jamesesdad']think you might be the one with those rose tinted glasses if you remember ps2 games looking anything but muddy, washed, out or grainy.

Just because you spent countless hours playing games on a backwards compatible system on a hdtv doesn't mean I should make an assumption that you have sat down and compared them back to back, and I still somehow doubt you actually did this.

Maybe its just my personal preference, but I think the games look significantly improved with scaling, and texture filtering. Clearly the unscaled version of the game looks significantly grainier in these screen shots comparing ff12 using the different filtering and scaling options. Furthermore, I don't see a loss in any kind of color saturation, only an improvement due to full screen antialiasing, and minor texture smoothing. Keep in mind these are all taken off a ps3, so it would actually look worse running through a ps2 with component. These are merely to show the difference with and without scaling and smoothing.

No scaling no texture smoothing
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/infernosoul1/normaloff.jpg

Full scaling, full texture smoothing
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/infernosoul1/fullsmoothing.jpg

My argument was never that it was worthwhile to buy a used ps3 over a new one (whilst yours seems to be that there is no worthwhile improvement to having the scaler because no one should want to play ps2 games on a hdtv), my point was only that if you wanted to play your ps2 games on a HDTV they would look better with a 60gb than if you used a ps2. If you honestly think there is no improvement between those 2 images, then maybe you need to look into getting glasses.[/QUOTE]


I can post pictures too:


PlayStation 2
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PlayStation 3, all filters applied
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That's what I mean when I say washed out. That's really not what I call an improvement.


When you talk fondly of PS3 backwards compatibility and say the images look sharper and cleaner, this is what you make it sound like:

ff121.jpg


PS3 wont give you that.
 
[quote name='jamesesdad']How is it cheaper to get a new slim ps3, and a ps2 and a memory card, then to get this 259.99 60 gb? Once again not arguing for or against buying a used system, but the only argument that seems to hold up is that its used....so it might break.[/QUOTE]

I was saying it is cheaper to get a new PS3 slim and PS2 than a NEW 60gb PS3. I wouldn't buy a used optical drive system, ever, since they are so unreliable, unless it is something old like a Saturn or something.
 
[quote name='autopiloton']I can post pictures too:


PlayStation 2
auwjn4.png



PlayStation 3, all filters applied
30lmn8o.jpg



That's what I mean when I say washed out. That's really not what I call an improvement.
[/QUOTE]

Oh come on, it looks washed out because of the filters. The game will look fine if you turn them off. The filters are optional.
 
[quote name='schultzed']Makes you wonder why Sony hasn't kept a premium hardware BC system in production . . . For a company struggling for 2nd place in the console wars . . .[/QUOTE]

My guess is that at E3 they are going to announce downloadable PS2 games that you get the pleasure of paying for again, even if you own the PS2 discs.
 
If these are refurbished by sony and not some third party company then they really are as good as new and worth buying. However I have a friend who works for panasonic and he told me that websites like newegg and tigerdirect allegedly get a lot of their product from third party merchants who buy over stock from retailers or buy damaged goods and fix them up themselves and then resell them to said websites. In any case, I love my 60 gig PS3 I got it maybe 6 months after launch and have used it heavily. It's never acted up once and has always worked great. Sony really does build their systems to last.

On another note...if you don't care about backwards compatibility then by all means get a PS3 slim...I love my slim it's so quite most of the time. Only during longer periods of gaming do the fans get loud. However when the fans do kick in that system is just about as load as any other PS3 system I've ever heard.
 
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