Regarding my last post about downloading Xbox games

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lain21us

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I'm not sure why my thread was locked, but whatever.

Just for all the assholes who decided to flame me, call me names, accuse me of piracy, tell me to buy the games, etc, I just wanted to make it clear. I have at least 80 retail Xbox games. I've never had any need to pirate games, and I don't need your sorry opinions about my gaming habits. I download games I already own and burn them, and play them on my modified Xbox so that I don't have to open them. In this way, I am able to retain 100% of their value and still play them legally.
 
I didn't see the other thread, but obviously you don't get it. It's not ok to talk about downlading games here. Accept it and move on.
 
oh no piracy = bad oh no oh no! the government is always right they say piracy is bad so its very bad.
 
It is still 100% illegal to do what you are doing. Read the license agreement that comes with every game. Jesus.
 
[quote name='Storamin']oh no piracy = bad oh no oh no! the government is always right they say piracy is bad so its very bad.[/quote]

Are you serious? So you condone piracy? How is piracy any different then walking into target and putting the game in your pocket and walking out without paying. The end result is the same, you didn't pay anything for the game.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Keep pushing the issue and you may just get yourself banned.[/quote]

You don't look like a mod to me, so I'm really not interested in your comments about me being banned. I'm pretty sure I didn't do anything to justify being banned. Further, I'm not pushing any issue. I'm clearing my name, after people accused me and jumped to conclusions.
 
[quote name='Storamin']oh no piracy = bad oh no oh no! the government is always right they say piracy is bad so its very bad.[/quote]

The government? More like ethics and morals and respect for devs.

You're a tool of liberal america.
 
[quote name='javeryh']It is still 100% illegal to do what you are doing. Read the license agreement that comes with every game. Jesus.[/quote]

It's completely legal according to the DMCA. Jesus.
 
[quote name='Storamin']oh no piracy = bad oh no oh no! the government is always right they say piracy is bad so its very bad.[/quote]

Piracy is bad. How could anybody think otherwise?
 
regardless of how i feel about this issue, i never discuss it here. why? because it is taboo. Why do i care what is taboo? because i like this site, appreciate the people who run it, and i don't want to piss them off or get them in trouble by debating a legal grey area. i think it is worth the sacrifice to be able to enjoy this site.
 
[quote name='lain21us'][quote name='RedvsBlue']Keep pushing the issue and you may just get yourself banned.[/quote]

You don't look like a mod to me, so I'm really not interested in your comments about me being banned. I'm pretty sure I didn't do anything to justify being banned. Further, I'm not pushing any issue. I'm clearing my name, after people accused me and jumped to conclusions.[/quote]

Here's word from a mod. Downloading games is illegal, even if you own the originals. The only way you even might be able to do it leagally is if you copy it yourself, and thats usually grey area to illegal.

Do not make another topic like the last. Talk of downloading games is strictly forbidden.
 
Ok if you own the games that you download as you say, knowing how piracy is frowned upon around here, you would have stated that in your other thread that was locked.

As far as me not being a mod. I'm not and I'm not claiming to be but I've seen other people do the same thing (getting a thread locked and starting another one) and most of them aren't around anymore
 
hahaha... working on up, eh? Soon stomping Bush will be at a grand.

Anywho... I agree, it's so taboo that it isn't worth the argument. Now on the argument of unsupported, classic systems and roms/emulators... you could have one hell of an argument with that one :)
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin'][quote name='lain21us'][quote name='RedvsBlue']Keep pushing the issue and you may just get yourself banned.[/quote]

You don't look like a mod to me, so I'm really not interested in your comments about me being banned. I'm pretty sure I didn't do anything to justify being banned. Further, I'm not pushing any issue. I'm clearing my name, after people accused me and jumped to conclusions.[/quote]

Here's word from a mod. Downloading games is illegal, even if you own the originals. The only way you even might be able to do it leagally is if you copy it yourself, and thats usually grey area to illegal.

Do not make another topic like the last. Talk of downloading games is strictly forbidden.[/quote]

Being a mod doesn't make you any more right about the legality of downloading games. It is completely legal, as long as you already own the game, as is copying. There is no legislation that says otherwise. However, there is legislation that backs me on this (the DMCA).
 
Haha...if you think you're in the clear and you think you're not doing anything wrong, why be so defensive about it? If you don't need our "sorry opinions" stop posting about it.

Sheesh...and if you're gonna do it, do it, but don't come flaunt it on a message board, much less in the wrong forum ( Deal and Shopping Discussions & Bragging rights )

You've been here long enough to know better.
 
[quote name='lain21us'][quote name='javeryh']It is still 100% illegal to do what you are doing. Read the license agreement that comes with every game. Jesus.[/quote]

It's completely legal according to the DMCA. Jesus.[/quote]

No it's not. The DMCA allows you to make a copy for archival purposes unless otherwise stated. The license agreement otherwise states. Jesus.
 
[quote name='javeryh'][quote name='lain21us'][quote name='javeryh']It is still 100% illegal to do what you are doing. Read the license agreement that comes with every game. Jesus.[/quote]

It's completely legal according to the DMCA. Jesus.[/quote]

No it's not. The DMCA allows you to make a copy for archival purposes unless otherwise stated. The license agreement otherwise states. Jesus.[/quote]

I have studied media law extensively throughout undergrad and grad school; trust me when I say that while what you are doing may appear to legit, your rationale would not hold up in a US court.

/my 2 cents
 
Cant you tell a pirate from a thief. There are subtle differences...

Pirate.
patch over eye, thick red beard (may be black), funny hat, parrot on shoulder, may or may not have a peg leg and/or hook for hand(s), prefers ocean activites which include long sailing periods, bad hygeine, occasional drunkeness, foul language, including fould b o, and gold teeth.

Thief.
Stalks around trying to avoid detection, carrys various tools and weapons, very quiet, hides in shadows, steals expensive things, etc.

Tell me you cant tell the difference.
 
[quote name='organicow']regardless of how i feel about this issue, i never discuss it here. why? because it is taboo. Why do i care what is taboo? because i like this site, appreciate the people who run it, and i don't want to piss them off or get them in trouble by debating a legal grey area. i think it is worth the sacrifice to be able to enjoy this site.[/quote]

I'm with you 100%
 
[quote name='organicow'][quote name='javeryh']It is still 100% illegal to do what you are doing. Read the license agreement that comes with every game. Jesus.[/quote]

I have studied media law extensively throughout undergrad and grad school; trust me when I say that while what you are doing may appear to legit, your rationale would not hold up in a US court.

/my 2 cents[/quote]

I'm a lawyer.

I'm not saying you wouldn't have an argument but technically you need permission.
 
I have my JD (Wash U St Louis - 97, GO BEARS) The way the govt is coming down on pirates and the recent problems w/ Half Life 2, GTA and Halo, heads are going to start to roll. If this continues it will be just like the little girl (s) being prosecuted for downloading music. The game companies and the govt cld suggest that you are downloading the games and profiting from them.
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin']I think we need a little dose of JSweeney in this thread.[/quote]

Maybe you should simply explain where the site gets its funds from and why for that reason we don't deal with illegal stuff.
 
Just my two cents...

While I understand the discussion of the ins and outs of downloading games should not be tolerated, as it could hurt the site, we should be very careful of quickly saying, "any talk of piracy will get you banned".

Perhaps some people engage in piracy because the don't understand it's ramifications- it hurts the industry that we all love. Some may be at a developmental level where they are still working things out ethically.

Regardless, let's be careful to silence all communication about piracy. I see nothing wrong with discussing the grey areas mentioned in this thread in a thoughful, respectful manner.
 
From the DMCA:

"Section 1201 divides technological measures into two categories: measures that prevent unauthorized access to a copyrighted work and measures that prevent unauthorized copying of a copyrighted work. Making or selling devices or services that are used to circumvent either category of technological measure is prohibited in certain circumstances, described below. As to the act of circumvention in itself, the provision prohibites circumventing the first category of technical measures, but not the second.

This distinction was employed to assure that the public will have the continued ability to make fair use of copyrighted works. Since copying of a work may be fair use under appropriate circumstances, section 1201 does not prohibit the act of circumventing a technology that prevents copying."
 
[quote name='javeryh'][quote name='organicow'][quote name='javeryh']It is still 100% illegal to do what you are doing. Read the license agreement that comes with every game. Jesus.[/quote]

I have studied media law extensively throughout undergrad and grad school; trust me when I say that while what you are doing may appear to legit, your rationale would not hold up in a US court.

/my 2 cents[/quote]

I'm a lawyer.

I'm not saying you wouldn't have an argument but technically you need permission.[/quote]

sadly, there is still a legal "grey area" here. like you said, there might be a reasonable argument but i still can't imagine it holding up... i just hope to god that we don't find ourselves (as gamers) dealing with the same sort of craziness that is wrecking the music industry right now.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire'][quote name='SneakyPenguin']I think we need a little dose of JSweeney in this thread.[/quote]

Maybe you should simply explain where the site gets its funds from and why for that reason we don't deal with illegal stuff.[/quote]

Good idea.

This site makes almost ALL it's money from the affiliate links from various game stores. If these game stores see that people are downloading games instead of buying them (regardless of whatever flimsy defense they have), they will pull the affiliate. No more affiliate means no more money. No more money means no more site, and bam, you jsut killed a great thing. With that point made, LOCKED.
 
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