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DarkSageRK
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They're reprints/used games with flimsy plastic wrap. They're definitely not "new" in the collector's sense of the word.
Jack_Frost
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Thought this has been known for a while lol
Alien Spider
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Awesome, amazing games! I highly recommend all of them (especially the Persona ones) to any gamer who enjoys RPGs.
[quote name='DarkSageRK']They're reprints/used games with flimsy plastic wrap. They're definitely not "new" in the collector's sense of the word.[/QUOTE]
Really? I have to disagree. I bought Persona 4 New from Amazon about 3 weeks ago, and I have to say it's just like any other retail PS2 case. It's not even those crappy recyclable "green" cases. I found it to be indistinguishable from the other types of plastic used in PS2 game packaging.
I was very happy with the purchase. Still playing it now and am BLOWN AWAY about the quality voice acting, art direction, and plot script. I'm so glad I had a chance to pick it up for $20.
Really? I have to disagree. I bought Persona 4 New from Amazon about 3 weeks ago, and I have to say it's just like any other retail PS2 case. It's not even those crappy recyclable "green" cases. I found it to be indistinguishable from the other types of plastic used in PS2 game packaging.
I was very happy with the purchase. Still playing it now and am BLOWN AWAY about the quality voice acting, art direction, and plot script. I'm so glad I had a chance to pick it up for $20.
NocturneManiac
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[quote name='Xiemos']Thinking about buying the DDS games. Do the DDS games have random battles or on-screen enemies? I'm a big RPG fan, but I find it hard these days to return to random battles (especially if the battle system is slow paced).[/QUOTE]
It's random battles. The battle system is pretty similar to the other titles, only with a 3 person party (probably closer to Nocturne than Persona 3/4, though).
It's random battles. The battle system is pretty similar to the other titles, only with a 3 person party (probably closer to Nocturne than Persona 3/4, though).
[quote name='Xiemos']Thinking about buying the DDS games. Do the DDS games have random battles or on-screen enemies? I'm a big RPG fan, but I find it hard these days to return to random battles (especially if the battle system is slow paced).[/QUOTE]
Random, the encounter rate is pretty high for the DDS games and Nocturne. The battle systems make this not so bad. cause its Pretty fun since you can kill people pretty quick if they have an weakness to an spell or certain physical.
the story in both are pretty good. With nocturne being in the main series it has the different events that lead to different story parts and endings.
Argh! this sale doesn't have devil summoner 2. I wish they reprint, that its the only game I don't have on the ps2 in the shin megmai tensei series.
edit: lol too slow of an typer XD
Random, the encounter rate is pretty high for the DDS games and Nocturne. The battle systems make this not so bad. cause its Pretty fun since you can kill people pretty quick if they have an weakness to an spell or certain physical.
the story in both are pretty good. With nocturne being in the main series it has the different events that lead to different story parts and endings.
Argh! this sale doesn't have devil summoner 2. I wish they reprint, that its the only game I don't have on the ps2 in the shin megmai tensei series.
edit: lol too slow of an typer XD
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[quote name='Snuggelz']Are there any distinguishable characteristics between the reprints and the originals?[/QUOTE]
The original release of Nocturne included a soundtrack. The reprint is the game disc only. Also the first release of DDS1 came in a double-wide outer box designed to hold both DDS games. It's probably the rarest U.S. PS2 release out there.
Also, OP: *Megami
The original release of Nocturne included a soundtrack. The reprint is the game disc only. Also the first release of DDS1 came in a double-wide outer box designed to hold both DDS games. It's probably the rarest U.S. PS2 release out there.
Also, OP: *Megami
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[quote name='Snuggelz']Are there any distinguishable characteristics between the reprints and the originals?[/QUOTE]
I'm fairly certain that the reprinted version of Nocturne is the one with Raidou as a cameo character. The original game featured Dante (from Devil May Cry) as a bonus/cameo character. 90-95% of the game isn't changed by this though. I also think that (as stated above) the reprint for Nocturne doesn't come with the CD sampler.
Some thoughts for those interested in these:
SMT Nocturne in particular is very hard. Like, stupidly difficult at times. For the most part random mobs are alright, but often bosses are way ahead of the level curve you'd naturally hit. Grinding often feels required simply to advance. It's also possible to run into something with an elemental alignment against your chosen magatama that will absolutely destroy you. Like most SMT games, game over if you die. (Even if you have party members with revive spells) Hell, let's not even talk about the Fiends added to the Maniax cut. (IE the version for sale here)
Even in spite of these factors, I still find the game to be absolutely amazing. Environment/Character design is A+, and the music is top notch. The gameplay system / mechanics are fun too, with a "Pokemon in hell" feel to them. So yeah, I can't recommend Nocturne enough - but be prepared for a fair bit of difficulty.
For Digital Devil Saga, think of it as more of a traditional jrpg. While Nocturne (and Persona 3/4) emphasizes collecting of different monsters for fusion and the like (more Pokemon in nature for party member growth), DDS is much more about having your core party members whom you level through skill trees and the like. Still two damn good games, just worth noting that JRPG fans will probably feel a bit more at home here.
So uh, yeah. tl;dr: They're great games. Buy all of them you don't already own. Oh, and Nocturne is hard.
I'm fairly certain that the reprinted version of Nocturne is the one with Raidou as a cameo character. The original game featured Dante (from Devil May Cry) as a bonus/cameo character. 90-95% of the game isn't changed by this though. I also think that (as stated above) the reprint for Nocturne doesn't come with the CD sampler.
Some thoughts for those interested in these:
SMT Nocturne in particular is very hard. Like, stupidly difficult at times. For the most part random mobs are alright, but often bosses are way ahead of the level curve you'd naturally hit. Grinding often feels required simply to advance. It's also possible to run into something with an elemental alignment against your chosen magatama that will absolutely destroy you. Like most SMT games, game over if you die. (Even if you have party members with revive spells) Hell, let's not even talk about the Fiends added to the Maniax cut. (IE the version for sale here)
Even in spite of these factors, I still find the game to be absolutely amazing. Environment/Character design is A+, and the music is top notch. The gameplay system / mechanics are fun too, with a "Pokemon in hell" feel to them. So yeah, I can't recommend Nocturne enough - but be prepared for a fair bit of difficulty.
For Digital Devil Saga, think of it as more of a traditional jrpg. While Nocturne (and Persona 3/4) emphasizes collecting of different monsters for fusion and the like (more Pokemon in nature for party member growth), DDS is much more about having your core party members whom you level through skill trees and the like. Still two damn good games, just worth noting that JRPG fans will probably feel a bit more at home here.
So uh, yeah. tl;dr: They're great games. Buy all of them you don't already own. Oh, and Nocturne is hard.
[quote name='morrodox']The original release of Nocturne included a soundtrack. The reprint is the game disc only. Also the first release of DDS1 came in a double-wide outer box designed to hold both DDS games. It's probably the rarest U.S. PS2 release out there.
Also, OP: *Megami[/QUOTE]
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also are these games overall good or like cult classics? (e.g. people that love tarintino [spelling?] rave about how good pulp fiction is. saw it was not impressed.)
Also, OP: *Megami[/QUOTE]
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also are these games overall good or like cult classics? (e.g. people that love tarintino [spelling?] rave about how good pulp fiction is. saw it was not impressed.)
destro4eva
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[quote name='Kovorkian']fixed!
also are these games overall good or like cult classics? (e.g. people that love tarintino [spelling?] rave about how good pulp fiction is. saw it was not impressed.)[/QUOTE]
I'd say they're cult classics, with regard to Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga. (The Persona games are, of course, a bit more widely known and have enjoyed critical acclaim for their visual style and polish.)
But the others in the SMT series, particularly Nocturne, are good, solid games with some slick art direction, but their gameplay is a little outdated with the grind and dungeon-crawl battles.
Much as I love the SMT series and their weird brand of demon-summoning gameplay, I'd have to say that I don't think Nocturne and DDS would have as much attention paid to them if it wasn't for Persona (since they all fall under the SMT franchise), and probably would have fallen by the wayside like many other good JRPGs on the PS2.
also are these games overall good or like cult classics? (e.g. people that love tarintino [spelling?] rave about how good pulp fiction is. saw it was not impressed.)[/QUOTE]
I'd say they're cult classics, with regard to Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga. (The Persona games are, of course, a bit more widely known and have enjoyed critical acclaim for their visual style and polish.)
But the others in the SMT series, particularly Nocturne, are good, solid games with some slick art direction, but their gameplay is a little outdated with the grind and dungeon-crawl battles.
Much as I love the SMT series and their weird brand of demon-summoning gameplay, I'd have to say that I don't think Nocturne and DDS would have as much attention paid to them if it wasn't for Persona (since they all fall under the SMT franchise), and probably would have fallen by the wayside like many other good JRPGs on the PS2.
[quote name='DaedalusIkari']I'm fairly certain that the reprinted version of Nocturne is the one with Raidou as a cameo character. The original game featured Dante (from Devil May Cry) as a bonus/cameo character. 90-95% of the game isn't changed by this though. I also think that (as stated above) the reprint for Nocturne doesn't come with the CD sampler.
[/QUOTE]
No, the version with Raidou is Japan only, and was packaged with Devil Summoner 2.
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No, the version with Raidou is Japan only, and was packaged with Devil Summoner 2.
[quote name='Snuggelz']Are there any distinguishable characteristics between the reprints and the originals?[/QUOTE]
The only differences have already been mentioned before (i.e. No soundtrack with Nocture and no box with DDS). The cases for the reprints will be the newer style PS2 cases without the memory card holders. Otherwise, there is no differences.
The only differences have already been mentioned before (i.e. No soundtrack with Nocture and no box with DDS). The cases for the reprints will be the newer style PS2 cases without the memory card holders. Otherwise, there is no differences.
[quote name='morrodox']The original release of Nocturne included a soundtrack. The reprint is the game disc only. Also the first release of DDS1 came in a double-wide outer box designed to hold both DDS games. It's probably the rarest U.S. PS2 release out there.
Also, OP: *Megami[/QUOTE]
DDS Deluxe's value went down after the first time Atlus re-printed it as game-only years ago. It's hardly worth more than the standard copy.
Sealed copies might be worth something though I haven't seen a sealed one in ages (and I don't really check).
Also, OP: *Megami[/QUOTE]
DDS Deluxe's value went down after the first time Atlus re-printed it as game-only years ago. It's hardly worth more than the standard copy.
Sealed copies might be worth something though I haven't seen a sealed one in ages (and I don't really check).
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Should I go ahead and buy P4, even though I'm planning on getting Golden?
[quote name='Vinny']DDS Deluxe's value went down after the first time Atlus re-printed it as game-only years ago. It's hardly worth more than the standard copy.
Sealed copies might be worth something though I haven't seen a sealed one in ages (and I don't really check).[/QUOTE]
Still have my sealed copies. dd1 and 2 are great games as are nocturne and the persona games.
Sealed copies might be worth something though I haven't seen a sealed one in ages (and I don't really check).[/QUOTE]
Still have my sealed copies. dd1 and 2 are great games as are nocturne and the persona games.
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[quote name='TheKbob']I always wanted to try Nocturne, but I am afraid I wont like / have time for the grind. Decisions.[/QUOTE]
In my experience, Nocturne is about as grind-less as it gets in RPG's.
Any grinding I did didn't feel like grinding at all, as it was spread out over long periods of time and was something I did by choice. Basically, "I want to fuse [some demon], but if I level up my [one of the required demons] just one/two more levels first, the fused demon will have [some awesome spell] when I do fuse him." Or "I need to level up just two more levels in order to fuse [some demon]."
In any of those cases, I could have avoided the minor grinding involved and passed up the reward of fusing the demon I wanted, but because the grinding was minimal and the reward great, it wasn't an unpleasant experience at all. Add to that the fact that as you're randomly battling, you'll often run into other demons that you want to recruit.
My point is that it's not like many RPG's where you tediously fight 20 of the same repetitive battles before you can move on in the story. It's executed in a much more enjoyable way, where grinding doesn't feel like grinding (at least to me).
In my experience, Nocturne is about as grind-less as it gets in RPG's.
Any grinding I did didn't feel like grinding at all, as it was spread out over long periods of time and was something I did by choice. Basically, "I want to fuse [some demon], but if I level up my [one of the required demons] just one/two more levels first, the fused demon will have [some awesome spell] when I do fuse him." Or "I need to level up just two more levels in order to fuse [some demon]."
In any of those cases, I could have avoided the minor grinding involved and passed up the reward of fusing the demon I wanted, but because the grinding was minimal and the reward great, it wasn't an unpleasant experience at all. Add to that the fact that as you're randomly battling, you'll often run into other demons that you want to recruit.
My point is that it's not like many RPG's where you tediously fight 20 of the same repetitive battles before you can move on in the story. It's executed in a much more enjoyable way, where grinding doesn't feel like grinding (at least to me).
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[quote name='Kovorkian']fixed!
also are these games overall good or like cult classics? (e.g. people that love tarintino [spelling?] rave about how good pulp fiction is. saw it was not impressed.)[/QUOTE]
Proclaiming you don't' like Pulp Fiction really doesn't help people figure out your tastes. :ziplip: That movie is pretty mainstream anyway, not really a "cult classic".
Pulp Fiction is definitely more mainstream to movies than these series are to videogames, however if you've played and enjoyed a few JRPG's you will probably enjoy any of these. If you don't know or haven't played any JRPG, then the only way is to really try one of these games for yourself.
also are these games overall good or like cult classics? (e.g. people that love tarintino [spelling?] rave about how good pulp fiction is. saw it was not impressed.)[/QUOTE]
Proclaiming you don't' like Pulp Fiction really doesn't help people figure out your tastes. :ziplip: That movie is pretty mainstream anyway, not really a "cult classic".
Pulp Fiction is definitely more mainstream to movies than these series are to videogames, however if you've played and enjoyed a few JRPG's you will probably enjoy any of these. If you don't know or haven't played any JRPG, then the only way is to really try one of these games for yourself.
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[quote name='ippo']Still have my sealed copies.[/QUOTE]
:lol::lol::lol:
Also, the encounter rate in Nocturne is pretty high. DDS1 has a very reasonable encounter rate most of the time, DDS2 is ridiculous with random battles, though. The final dungeon you'll be fighting every two or three steps.
:lol::lol::lol:
Also, the encounter rate in Nocturne is pretty high. DDS1 has a very reasonable encounter rate most of the time, DDS2 is ridiculous with random battles, though. The final dungeon you'll be fighting every two or three steps.
Jack_Frost
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[quote name='ippo']pic
Still have my sealed copies. dd1 and 2 are great games as are nocturne and the persona games.[/QUOTE]
Still have my sealed copies. dd1 and 2 are great games as are nocturne and the persona games.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='Agent Orange']Proclaiming you don't' like Pulp Fiction really doesn't help people figure out your tastes. :ziplip: That movie is pretty mainstream anyway, not really a "cult classic".
Pulp Fiction is definitely more mainstream to movies than these series are to videogames, however if you've played and enjoyed a few JRPG's you will probably enjoy any of these. If you don't know or haven't played any JRPG, then the only way is to really try one of these games for yourself.[/QUOTE]
There aren't any rpgs that i recall playing and not liking, the system in these games however looks to be different and possibly not enjoyable
Are there any games that they are similar to?
Pulp Fiction is definitely more mainstream to movies than these series are to videogames, however if you've played and enjoyed a few JRPG's you will probably enjoy any of these. If you don't know or haven't played any JRPG, then the only way is to really try one of these games for yourself.[/QUOTE]
There aren't any rpgs that i recall playing and not liking, the system in these games however looks to be different and possibly not enjoyable
Are there any games that they are similar to?
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[quote name='Kovorkian']There aren't any rpgs that i recall playing and not liking, the system in these games however looks to be different and possibly not enjoyable
Are there any games that they are similar to?[/QUOTE]
I would describe Nocturne as something of a "Pokemon for adults." Take the basic monster-catching formula and make it much more complex/interesting/challenging, add a mature story/setting and a dark, broody atmosphere, and there you go. Cutscenes/dialogue are relatively short.
Digital Devil Saga 1&2 are more traditional RPG's. Unlike Nocturne, they have voice-acting and better cutscenes. The story is more scripted and more explicit than in Nocturne (whereas Nocturne's story asks you to read between the lines more).
Persona 3 & 4 are almost like two games in one: half the game is spent dungeon-crawling, and half the game is a high school sim. They also have long anime-esque cutscenes, and they have the most cliched, simple plots of the SMT series (though they have relatively deep characters). They are also the most highly-polished of the games.
In short, if you prefer X, play Y:
- gameplay : Nocturne
- story : Digital Devil Saga
- anime & high school sims: Persona
Are there any games that they are similar to?[/QUOTE]
I would describe Nocturne as something of a "Pokemon for adults." Take the basic monster-catching formula and make it much more complex/interesting/challenging, add a mature story/setting and a dark, broody atmosphere, and there you go. Cutscenes/dialogue are relatively short.
Digital Devil Saga 1&2 are more traditional RPG's. Unlike Nocturne, they have voice-acting and better cutscenes. The story is more scripted and more explicit than in Nocturne (whereas Nocturne's story asks you to read between the lines more).
Persona 3 & 4 are almost like two games in one: half the game is spent dungeon-crawling, and half the game is a high school sim. They also have long anime-esque cutscenes, and they have the most cliched, simple plots of the SMT series (though they have relatively deep characters). They are also the most highly-polished of the games.
In short, if you prefer X, play Y:
- gameplay : Nocturne
- story : Digital Devil Saga
- anime & high school sims: Persona
[quote name='specialist']:lol::lol::lol:
Also, the encounter rate in Nocturne is pretty high. DDS1 has a very reasonable encounter rate most of the time, DDS2 is ridiculous with random battles, though. The final dungeon you'll be fighting every two or three steps.[/QUOTE]
I've got every single SMT game on the PS2 and I honestly can't decide how to go about the series... every time I search for or read about suggested order you should play the games, I get something completely different.
I only made it a few hours into Nocturne, DDS1 and Persona 3 and with game, I stopped for one reason or another and never went back.
Also, the encounter rate in Nocturne is pretty high. DDS1 has a very reasonable encounter rate most of the time, DDS2 is ridiculous with random battles, though. The final dungeon you'll be fighting every two or three steps.[/QUOTE]
I've got every single SMT game on the PS2 and I honestly can't decide how to go about the series... every time I search for or read about suggested order you should play the games, I get something completely different.
I only made it a few hours into Nocturne, DDS1 and Persona 3 and with game, I stopped for one reason or another and never went back.
NocturneManiac
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[quote name='Jackovasaurus']Should I go ahead and buy P4, even though I'm planning on getting Golden?[/QUOTE]
Probably not. I'd imagine that in comparison to the P3 port on PSP, the Vita version of this should be quite a step above it. Not that it wasn't good, but it was quite dumbed down in areas like exploration and such. I'm guessing the Vita could downgrade a couple of things to make it a better handheld experience, but I'd like to think it would be the version to get (PS2 -> Vita), since it's not like it is going backwards (PS3 -> Vita).
Probably not. I'd imagine that in comparison to the P3 port on PSP, the Vita version of this should be quite a step above it. Not that it wasn't good, but it was quite dumbed down in areas like exploration and such. I'm guessing the Vita could downgrade a couple of things to make it a better handheld experience, but I'd like to think it would be the version to get (PS2 -> Vita), since it's not like it is going backwards (PS3 -> Vita).
[quote name='Josh1billion']I would describe Nocturne as something of a "Pokemon for adults." Take the basic monster-catching formula and make it much more complex/interesting/challenging, add a mature story/setting and a dark, broody atmosphere, and there you go. Cutscenes/dialogue are relatively short.
Digital Devil Saga 1&2 are more traditional RPG's. Unlike Nocturne, they have voice-acting and better cutscenes. The story is more scripted and more explicit than in Nocturne (whereas Nocturne's story asks you to read between the lines more).
Persona 3 & 4 are almost like two games in one: half the game is spent dungeon-crawling, and half the game is a high school sim. They also have long anime-esque cutscenes, and they have the most cliched, simple plots of the SMT series (though they have relatively deep characters). They are also the most highly-polished of the games.
In short, if you prefer X, play Y:
- gameplay : Nocturne
- story : Digital Devil Saga
- anime & high school sims: Persona[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the analysis might have to give nocturne a try, but im buying soooo many games recently i have quite the back log
Edit: i like to 100% most games so they can take quite awhile especially if im easy getting 85%
Digital Devil Saga 1&2 are more traditional RPG's. Unlike Nocturne, they have voice-acting and better cutscenes. The story is more scripted and more explicit than in Nocturne (whereas Nocturne's story asks you to read between the lines more).
Persona 3 & 4 are almost like two games in one: half the game is spent dungeon-crawling, and half the game is a high school sim. They also have long anime-esque cutscenes, and they have the most cliched, simple plots of the SMT series (though they have relatively deep characters). They are also the most highly-polished of the games.
In short, if you prefer X, play Y:
- gameplay : Nocturne
- story : Digital Devil Saga
- anime & high school sims: Persona[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the analysis might have to give nocturne a try, but im buying soooo many games recently i have quite the back log
Edit: i like to 100% most games so they can take quite awhile especially if im easy getting 85%
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[quote name='NocturneManiac']Probably not. I'd imagine that in comparison to the P3 port on PSP, the Vita version of this should be quite a step above it. Not that it wasn't good, but it was quite dumbed down in areas like exploration and such. I'm guessing the Vita could downgrade a couple of things to make it a better handheld experience, but I'd like to think it would be the version to get (PS2 -> Vita), since it's not like it is going backwards (PS3 -> Vita).[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the reply, guess I'll go with DDS. I've never played that one.
Thanks for the reply, guess I'll go with DDS. I've never played that one.
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[quote name='chunlirocks']These will go a lot lower once president Romney takes office[/QUOTE]
Not into politics at all, so I don't get the joke.
Not into politics at all, so I don't get the joke.
I remember when I got DDS2 $10 new sealed before the reprint, at Gamestop.
Also got Raidou 1 sealed for $10 new there too. DAT SHINY COVER
Good times, this was before Gamestop started jacking up all the prices of the old Megaten games cause of the new fanbase brought in by P3's release and success.
Also got Raidou 1 sealed for $10 new there too. DAT SHINY COVER
Good times, this was before Gamestop started jacking up all the prices of the old Megaten games cause of the new fanbase brought in by P3's release and success.
[quote name='aerozero']Good times, this was before Gamestop started jacking up all the prices of the old Megaten games cause of the new fanbase brought in by P3's release and success.[/QUOTE]
Tell me about it. I remember buying Devil Summoner 1 for $7 used at Gamestop. Then Persona 3 FES became a huge hit and they really jacked the prices up on everything SMT related.
Tell me about it. I remember buying Devil Summoner 1 for $7 used at Gamestop. Then Persona 3 FES became a huge hit and they really jacked the prices up on everything SMT related.
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lulz, gamestop price gouging around the release of a similar or remade version of that game.
I'm just getting into these games but I just can't justify paying $20 for a PS2 game regardless of how much it sells for at gamestop. I'm going through the main series and strange journey while we wait for...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC-ft2cQJDk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC-ft2cQJDk
[quote name='Kovorkian']Searched got nothing, link please?[/QUOTE]
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=320081&page=6
[quote name='AZR43L']I'm just getting into these games but I just can't justify paying $20 for a PS2 game regardless of how much it sells for at gamestop. I'm going through the main series and strange journey while we wait for...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC-ft2cQJDk[/QUOTE]
You don't even know how disappointed I am with this game being on the 3DS.
I'll leave the whining to the massive thread over at NeoGaf, but seriously SMT4 should have been on a console where it belongs as all of the other mainline SMT games have been since the first one. No reason for it not too especially after the engine they developed for Catherine and all too.
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=320081&page=6
[quote name='AZR43L']I'm just getting into these games but I just can't justify paying $20 for a PS2 game regardless of how much it sells for at gamestop. I'm going through the main series and strange journey while we wait for...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC-ft2cQJDk[/QUOTE]
You don't even know how disappointed I am with this game being on the 3DS.
I'll leave the whining to the massive thread over at NeoGaf, but seriously SMT4 should have been on a console where it belongs as all of the other mainline SMT games have been since the first one. No reason for it not too especially after the engine they developed for Catherine and all too.
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[quote name='uncle5555']http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=320081&page=6
You don't even know how disappointed I am with this game being on the 3DS.
I'll leave the whining to the massive thread over at NeoGaf, but seriously SMT4 should have been on a console where it belongs as all of the other mainline SMT games have been since the first one. No reason for it not too especially after the engine they developed for Catherine and all too.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this sentiment, but a [small] part of me is glad that my 3DS will be getting some use after all. I would have loved a PS3 release, though.
You don't even know how disappointed I am with this game being on the 3DS.
I'll leave the whining to the massive thread over at NeoGaf, but seriously SMT4 should have been on a console where it belongs as all of the other mainline SMT games have been since the first one. No reason for it not too especially after the engine they developed for Catherine and all too.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this sentiment, but a [small] part of me is glad that my 3DS will be getting some use after all. I would have loved a PS3 release, though.
[quote name='uncle5555'] You don't even know how disappointed I am with this game being on the 3DS.
I'll leave the whining to the massive thread over at NeoGaf, but seriously SMT4 should have been on a console where it belongs as all of the other mainline SMT games have been since the first one. No reason for it not too especially after the engine they developed for Catherine and all too.[/QUOTE]
I don't get what you mean by a "console where it belongs." With the first two on SNES, the third on PS2 and SJ on DS, it doesn't really seem like it "belongs" anywhere. Anyway, I prefer to play RPGs on handheld so I'm okay with this release.
If it controls like the first two and SJ, then it would be a great way to utilize depth and 3D (but the trailer makes it seem like it'll play like Nocturne so idk).
I'll leave the whining to the massive thread over at NeoGaf, but seriously SMT4 should have been on a console where it belongs as all of the other mainline SMT games have been since the first one. No reason for it not too especially after the engine they developed for Catherine and all too.[/QUOTE]
I don't get what you mean by a "console where it belongs." With the first two on SNES, the third on PS2 and SJ on DS, it doesn't really seem like it "belongs" anywhere. Anyway, I prefer to play RPGs on handheld so I'm okay with this release.
If it controls like the first two and SJ, then it would be a great way to utilize depth and 3D (but the trailer makes it seem like it'll play like Nocturne so idk).
[quote name='AZR43L']I don't get what you mean by a "console where it belongs." With the first two on SNES, the third on PS2 and SJ on DS, it doesn't really seem like it "belongs" anywhere. Anyway, I prefer to play RPGs on handheld so I'm okay with this release.
If it controls like the first two and SJ, then it would be a great way to utilize depth and 3D (but the trailer makes it seem like it'll play like Nocturne so idk).[/QUOTE]
Let me clarify, not on a handheld. Can't get much clearer about that.
And you said it exactly in what I bolded, I and many others prefer to not play them on handhelds hence the disappointment. Plus the expectation and rumors pointed to a console release for SMT4 on PS3, which we know to now be false. Doens't man I can't play it, just that my expectation to enjoy it the way I expected it to is extremely lowered by it being on a handheld system.
It maybe a not-so-popular opinion, but to relegate your flagship title to something lesser shows how far Persona has taken over as spinoff to top tier franchise. Which is a shame, since they are getting way to J-poppy and anime-ish for me, I liked the dark themes and mood of the original SMT titles and the first 2 Personas.
I'm glad you like the first person dungeon exploration, I was glad it was dead and buried when Nocturne came out, and was sad to see it reappear for SJ, will SMT 4 follow suit, depends how much money Index wants to spend on development, they already slashed it for which system they are releasing it for, so what's to stop them honestly.
I know Index Corp. tightened the reigns on Atlus now, but this is sheer cop out (and short sighted no less) thinking that a handheld version would be better for nothing more than short term sales in Japan only (which is the only market they, Index Corp. truly concern themselves with, 3DS being region locked didn't hurt the decision either) they crunched the numbers and hence SMT 4 on 3DS was born. I bet they did proto it on PS3/360 (hence the work they put into Catherine) but decided it wouldn't be financially viable and too expensive to go for anything other than a lower quality handheld version instead of an HD verision of Nocturne.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Persona sells well on Vita that P5 shows up as a handheld release either, it's less likely, but not out of the question entirely.
If it controls like the first two and SJ, then it would be a great way to utilize depth and 3D (but the trailer makes it seem like it'll play like Nocturne so idk).[/QUOTE]
Let me clarify, not on a handheld. Can't get much clearer about that.
And you said it exactly in what I bolded, I and many others prefer to not play them on handhelds hence the disappointment. Plus the expectation and rumors pointed to a console release for SMT4 on PS3, which we know to now be false. Doens't man I can't play it, just that my expectation to enjoy it the way I expected it to is extremely lowered by it being on a handheld system.
It maybe a not-so-popular opinion, but to relegate your flagship title to something lesser shows how far Persona has taken over as spinoff to top tier franchise. Which is a shame, since they are getting way to J-poppy and anime-ish for me, I liked the dark themes and mood of the original SMT titles and the first 2 Personas.
I'm glad you like the first person dungeon exploration, I was glad it was dead and buried when Nocturne came out, and was sad to see it reappear for SJ, will SMT 4 follow suit, depends how much money Index wants to spend on development, they already slashed it for which system they are releasing it for, so what's to stop them honestly.
I know Index Corp. tightened the reigns on Atlus now, but this is sheer cop out (and short sighted no less) thinking that a handheld version would be better for nothing more than short term sales in Japan only (which is the only market they, Index Corp. truly concern themselves with, 3DS being region locked didn't hurt the decision either) they crunched the numbers and hence SMT 4 on 3DS was born. I bet they did proto it on PS3/360 (hence the work they put into Catherine) but decided it wouldn't be financially viable and too expensive to go for anything other than a lower quality handheld version instead of an HD verision of Nocturne.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Persona sells well on Vita that P5 shows up as a handheld release either, it's less likely, but not out of the question entirely.
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