Revolution Conspiracy Theroies... THE PLOT THICKENS

[quote name='SpottedNigel']Here's the thing for me...i dont care about x360 or ps3. Nothing interests me so far game wise except for Heavenly Sword. Killzone can look amazing, but if its the same people making it it will play like ass. X360....slight upgrade...yet again, nothing special.

Revoulution so far has a huge backlog of hits, free online gaming, and mystery. It also doesnt come out for another year at least. I dont see any reason for Nintendo to do more than they already have this year. If this is all a hoax, dont get pissed at the company that didnt start it[/QUOTE]
Another excellent post. I definately agree.
 
[quote name='pumbaa']I think its NUTS that this thread is getting as big as its getting its a testament to the loyalty... or psychosis or Nintendo fans. And this thing was essentially debunked 10 hours ago. I mean I appreciate the tenacity guys... but this thread is kinda turning into the "crazy Nintendo fanatic" thread. We're grasping at nothing here. If something else legit comes up... fine... but lets not get crazy here.

May I suggest that the conversation turn from the past to the future. If not now... when? when will the Revolution be shown? Spaceworld? Xbox 360 launch (or is that saved for Zelda)? E3 2006? Or some random day?

Also to discuss... Aries got it wrong... nothing was shown today. Is he still credible? Are his supposed features still legit? Whats the consensus? I think I agree with Matt from IGN on this one... they guy is a fake... a damn good one with some excellent ideas... but a fake. Then again... who knows.[/QUOTE]

This is why Nintendo is not going anywhere anytime soon. I like all 3 companies but nothing gets me excited for video games quite like Nintendo...
 
it is soley brand loyalty of a few stron willed fans...not that their is anything wrong with that...I have hooked on this damm thread all day
 
Ok, ok...I take back my harsh words about Nintendo from earlier. I guess it's really not their fault that some jerkoff posted a bunch of stuff on a forum and got everybody to buy into his hype, only to let everyone down and probably sit in the corner of his little padded room and laugh all night long. I guess we should have listened to Matt when he said the guy was a fake.

At the very least, it's good to know that there are still dedicated Nintendo fans. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one happy with the direction Nintendo's headed, with all my friends planning on buying XBox 360s and PS3s. Even if the Revolution doesn't do anything except play older Nintendo games, I still have faith in the company. "Kicking ass, taking names, and making great games."
 
the gamecube proved to me that nintendo was attempting to head in the direction that i'm interested in.

the direction xbox and ps are going is boring and tiresome to me, so its' revolution or nothing for me.

and DAMN i want a ds now!
 
[quote name='SpottedNigel']http://www.smashbrothersonline.com/pokemonlist.html

Look at Jiriachi, and his background is gold (compared to none/white) and the text is gold (compared to white). Same weird number.[/QUOTE]

I also just noticed something when I was looking at this...there are a lot of misspellings in that little blurb. I looked at a few of the ones above and below it and there weren't any grammatical errors. Could there possibly be something to decode in there?

I know it's grasping at straws, but it reminded me of Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events where Meryl Streep's character left errors in her suicide note that lead the kids to where she was hiding.

Check it out anyway, tell me if I'm still searching for nothing.
 
Ugh.

I can't believe all the time I put into watching this thread. Thanks to everyone who posted recently so I didn't have to read any more to find out nothing happened today.

It is good that there are still many Nintendo loyalists out there. Now do something with it Nintendo. Do something!!!
 
The guy who owns the smashbrothersonline and smashbrothers3 site is just some lamer Nintendo uber-fanboy that posts under the name JOSHCUBE on various sites, including the official Nintendo.com forums. Not that I'm criticizing Nintendo fanboy's cause I partially consider myself to be one, but this guy was on there making posts about getting the Master Chief in SSB and posting fake information all over the place. He's also posted on a bunch of other forums, just run a whois on his site and google his e-mail.
 
Again nothing happened. It was fun as Pumbaa stated. but what if it was an early plant?

The revo comes out at Spaceworld or E3 2006 and some parts of what we found today are true.. wouldnt htat make an even bigger impact... Not only would it generate new hype it would lead all the way back to todays hype and start the process all over again on a larger scale.
 
[quote name='dcfox']It seems the smashbrothersonline site is down for now.[/QUOTE]

It appears that maybe Nintendo has put him out of business:

Site Temporarily Disabled

This site has been temporarily disabled. If you are the owner of the site, please contact customer care.
 
[quote name='crystalklear64']Today is the last chance Nintendo has to do something worthwhile...lets hope we get something. Even the fabled Mario 128 footage would be enough.[/QUOTE]

I don't think that anything more is coming. But at least I'm very happy with what was shown. I only have one GBA, so I am looking forward to getting a micro. Also, I have not splurged for a DS as yet, but now as soon as I have money, I will be getting one. Everything else was just icing on the proverbial cake.
 
Ya Space World is probably when it will happen. Nintendo isn't revealing anything to prevent theft. That's what they said at least. Plus they said that until it's near the final boards they didn't want to say anything. Which is true, specs for systems tend to change the closer to launch historically. If by August-November nothing is still revealed then i'll be worried.
 
[quote name='j.elles']Ya Space World is probably when it will happen. Nintendo isn't revealing anything to prevent theft. That's what they said at least. Plus they said that until it's near the final boards they didn't want to say anything. Which is true, specs for systems tend to change the closer to launch historically. If by August-November nothing is still revealed then i'll be worried.[/QUOTE]


Why its realistically not going to release until October of 2006 anyway. This way it will have a nice christmas season/demand.

Maybe July-August of next year. Or even 2006 E3 it will be all laid on the table.

Realistically Sony will probably come out in spring 2006 in japan and then Fall 2006 in America.
 
Q4 2006 is too long of a wait. Now that I think about it, I would have preferred if they didn't release any info on the Rev. If only to keep me from going crazy in anticipation.
 
[quote name='dcfox']Q4 2006 is too long of a wait. Now that I think about it, I would have preferred if they didn't release any info on the Rev. If only to keep me from going crazy in anticipation.[/QUOTE]


well if you really look at it, they barely released anything about the Rev.
 
[quote name='j.elles']Ya Space World is probably when it will happen. Nintendo isn't revealing anything to prevent theft. That's what they said at least. Plus they said that until it's near the final boards they didn't want to say anything. Which is true, specs for systems tend to change the closer to launch historically. If by August-November nothing is still revealed then i'll be worried.[/QUOTE]

It's not just a final board they are waiting for. They want to have a final build locked in, plus they want to be able to pull the numbers from actual games running on those builds. Miyamoto basically said that what the other companies are doing is dishonest. And that's very bold speech for the happy-go-lucky, life is beautiful type of guy.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/617/617000p1.html?fromint=1


IGNcube: Coming back to power. We apologize, but if we don't get some answers our readers are going to go insane. What are the tech specs for Revolution? Or, to put it another way, is Revolution as powerful as Xbox 360?

Shigeru Miyamoto: You know, in regard to the power of the Nintendo Revolution versus, say, the Xbox 360, we're looking at making a small, quiet, affordable console. If you look at trying to incorporate all that, of course we might not have the horsepower that some other companies have, but if you look at the numbers that they're throwing out, are those numbers going to be used in-game? I mean, those are just numbers that somebody just crunched up on a calculator. We could throw out a bunch of numbers, too, but what we're going to do is wait until our chips are done and we're going to find out how everything in the game is running, what its peak performance is, and those are the numbers that we're going to release because those are the numbers that really count. I do think it's very irresponsible for people to say, "This is what we're running on. This is the power of our machine," when they're not even running on final boards. I think the professional's job is to not believe those numbers.

...

IGNcube: Have you seen or played any non-Nintendo games at this year's E3 that have impressed you?


Shigeru Miyamoto: I haven't seen any other software yet. I haven't left this room [laughs]. As far as the other company's software, I've heard that Sony brought out a whole bunch of stuff that looked really pretty, but I haven't heard that any of it is playable. So let me ask you something: have you seen anything on the show floor that's really pretty and playable?

IGNcube: Yes. The game that first comes to mind is Okami from Capcom. It's amazing.

Shigeru Miyamoto: What is that on?

IGNcube: PlayStation 2.

Shigeru Miyamoto: Anything for PlayStation 3, that was playable?

IGNcube: Nothing playable. Unfortunately, some of the PS3 demos were rendered. But there's no doubt it's going to be a beast of a machine. You don't have to speak specifically on the title or titles, but is there a game for Revolution that validates to you the path you seem to be taking with the console?

Shigeru Miyamoto: In the development of the Revolution, I can't really elaborate on anything that explains why this is the specific path for us. We know this is the path for us. I just can't give you specific details that maybe reaffirms for you that we feel comfortable. What thing I can say is that Sony and Microsoft are going down the same road. They have chosen their path and they're sticking to it. They're going down that road together. We have chosen the road less traveled and we're happy with that. We do think that is a good thing.

IGNcube: Do you think Revolution will alienate gamers? Shigeru Miyamoto: No, I don't think we're going to alienate gamers at all. I think if you look at the stuff we have on Nintendo DS, which is really different from anything else out there, people are playing that and really enjoying it. There is going to be software for Revolution that you will not be able to play or experience anywhere else, on any other console, and I think people will find it enjoyable.
 
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet in one of the pages, but on G4 they were interviewing Reggie. They asked him about the controller he said nothing, but that "The revolution will support Nes, SuperNes, and N64 games. All these platforms had different controllers so how will the revolution handle this without a unique controller", something along the lines of that. I think this well definite increase the odds that the controller will be touch screen or at least for those games and maybe a totally new controller for the Revolution.
 
[quote name='scdoanintendo']I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet in one of the pages, but on G4 they were interviewing Reggie. They asked him about the controller he said nothing, but that "The revolution will support Nes, SuperNes, and N64 games. All these platforms had different controllers so how will the revolution handle this without a unique controller", something along the lines of that. I think this well definite increase the odds that the controller will be touch screen or at least for those games and maybe a totally new controller for the Revolution.[/QUOTE]

I think Iwata already explicitly denied the touch screen controller rumors. Although he could be doing it just to cover his own butt, but what about an idea I don't think anyone's mentioned yet? How about a CUSTOMIZABLE controller?

I really have no idea how this would work, but if there were some way to make a controller where you could slide the buttons around to different positions to suit whatever type of game you were playing, that would be pretty revolutionary. Imagine a bare controller with the face designed like a grid, with several interlocking squares molded into the plastic. Now imagine if you could take different button "pieces" and fit them into the controller however you wish, kinda like Legos. Wanna play an FPS? Grab two thumbstick pieces, position them wherever you like, and snap 'em in.

In retrospect, this doesn't really seem like a good idea, since the grid would probably get full of dirt and dust, thus blocking the contacts needed to make the buttons work. *Sigh*....it sounded so much better as I was typing.
 
[quote name='Maverick CRV']I think Iwata already explicitly denied the touch screen controller rumors. Although he could be doing it just to cover his own butt, but what about an idea I don't think anyone's mentioned yet? How about a CUSTOMIZABLE controller?

I really have no idea how this would work, but if there were some way to make a controller where you could slide the buttons around to different positions to suit whatever type of game you were playing, that would be pretty revolutionary. Imagine a bare controller with the face designed like a grid, with several interlocking squares molded into the plastic. Now imagine if you could take different button "pieces" and fit them into the controller however you wish, kinda like Legos. Wanna play an FPS? Grab two thumbstick pieces, position them wherever you like, and snap 'em in.

In retrospect, this doesn't really seem like a good idea, since the grid would probably get full of dirt and dust, thus blocking the contacts needed to make the buttons work. *Sigh*....it sounded so much better as I was typing.[/QUOTE]

I've had an idea that I haven't mentioned only because it sounds kind of dumb. But now that you posted that, how bad could my idea be? jk:lol:

Anyway, what if they had a controller with a smooth, pliable surface? And you could set it to different modes and little motors would push "buttons" out of the surface? I don't know, just kind of went along with the gripping/pressure sensitive rumors that have gone around. If one worked, I don't see why they wouldn't implement the other idea as well.

EDIT:
And yes, the touch screens are a no go. Even if the idea hadn't been put down previously, it just wouldn't be feasible. You need tactile feedback while playing. There is no way that a flat screen would do for buttons (even if they could get around the problem of proper calibration and only being able to use one point simultaneously on a touch screen - try your PDA out. Try to touch two points. It just averages out the distances.).
 
[quote name='Maverick CRV']I think Iwata already explicitly denied the touch screen controller rumors. Although he could be doing it just to cover his own butt, but what about an idea I don't think anyone's mentioned yet? How about a CUSTOMIZABLE controller?

I really have no idea how this would work, but if there were some way to make a controller where you could slide the buttons around to different positions to suit whatever type of game you were playing, that would be pretty revolutionary. Imagine a bare controller with the face designed like a grid, with several interlocking squares molded into the plastic. Now imagine if you could take different button "pieces" and fit them into the controller however you wish, kinda like Legos. Wanna play an FPS? Grab two thumbstick pieces, position them wherever you like, and snap 'em in.

In retrospect, this doesn't really seem like a good idea, since the grid would probably get full of dirt and dust, thus blocking the contacts needed to make the buttons work. *Sigh*....it sounded so much better as I was typing.[/QUOTE]
I remember seeing something similar at eb, the Phoenix Revolution Controller for the PS2. It's not as customizable as what you're suggesting or how well it works but makes your idea more plausible.

PS2-Phoenix-Controller.gif
 
...well, it IS named Revolution.... :)

So, who else just cant wait for next year now? Sure, im going to Disney World in September, but im almost more curious about the Revolution (yep, i got my priorities straight)
 
[quote name='SpottedNigel']...well, it IS named Revolution.... :)

So, who else just cant wait for next year now? Sure, im going to Disney World in September, but im almost more curious about the Revolution (yep, i got my priorities straight)[/QUOTE]

I really doubt that we have to wait until e3 to know what is going on. I am going on a cruise to the Bahamas in October, but Bahamas or a possible SpaceWorld? I don't know... But Bahamas or next year when I'll have a Revolution? Having a Revolution is possibly better than going to the Bahamas but definitely better than just hearing about / seeing a Revolution...
 
[quote name='MorPhiend']I really doubt that we have to wait until e3 to know what is going on. I am going on a cruise to the Bahamas in October, but Bahamas or a possible SpaceWorld? I don't know... But Bahamas or next year when I'll have a Revolution? Having a Revolution is possibly better than going to the Bahamas but definitely better than just hearing about / seeing a Revolution...[/QUOTE]

On IGN today, they posted snippets of an interview with Iwata in which he says, "Nintendo cannot afford to be late with the Revolution." He even hints that the big mystery behind Revolution will be spilled before the end of the year.

I hope this is true. I would hate to have to wait until E3 2006. That's like a whole year away!! I really feel that we'll know at least a solid release date by this Christmas.
 
[quote name='Maverick CRV']On IGN today, they posted snippets of an interview with Iwata in which he says, "Nintendo cannot afford to be late with the Revolution." He even hints that the big mystery behind Revolution will be spilled before the end of the year.

I hope this is true. I would hate to have to wait until E3 2006. That's like a whole year away!! I really feel that we'll know at least a solid release date by this Christmas.[/QUOTE]

Here it is.
New interview today. Excerpt:


"If the first entrant always wins the market, the Dreamcast must have won the race against the PS2, for example. There are many precedents like that in the past. The first to market is not necessarily the winner in the race," he said. "But we cannot afford to be too late. That's a very important point. Right now we are keeping many secrets, but by the end of this year, I believe we really need to express to the worldwide audience what the mysterious proposals we have are all about. Otherwise we will be in an extremely different position."
-Satoru Iwata


http://cube.ign.com/articles/617/617814p1.html

So it's official. We should know pretty much everything by the time Xbox 360 launches and Sony will launch before Nintendo, but Nintendo won't be too late to the party (mid-2006).
 
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