Rick Warren's Forum: Your Thoughts?

DarkSageRK

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For those of you oblivious to the presidential race, there was a forum hosted tonight by Pastor Rick Warren. First, he asked questions to Obama for an hour, then he asked McCain the same series of questions. There was no debate, just straight questions aimed at the candidates. It's worth a watch if you haven't seen it yet.


For those of you did watch it, what did you think about it? Discuss.
 
Obama's challenge was to make it through without hurting his image among heartland Christians, and I think he accomplished that. McCain's goal was just to be likable, and I think he accomplished that. Obama was inhibited, but that was expected and understandable.
 
That's an interesting format.

I was thinking about the televised debates coming up in September, and couldn't help but think of the old superstition of the taller candidate always winning the presidency since Kennedy/Nixon (the first, I believe, widely televised debate).

And noting, of course, that McCain is 5'7" and Obama 6'1".

Not that I'm into that sort of deciding, but it's going to come off as stark on TV. Unless McCain gets elevator shoes.

Oh, I've gone well off topic. Have a link to this forum? If it's available for online viewing, that is.
 
It was interesting... of course Mccain was just speaking to his base so it was a bit one sided. I would like to see another meeting set in a Black church set in the inner city.

Though it was good to hear Mccain promote a pro-life campaign, finally he sees the light about ending this damn war.
 
[quote name='homeland']It was interesting... of course Mccain was just speaking to his base so it was a bit one sided. I would like to see another meeting set in a Black church set in the inner city.[/QUOTE]

That would've been the exact same, Barack pussy-footing around admitting that his ideals conflict with religious ideology and McCain implying with confidence how he will lead America with The Bible as his guide.

How about a forum without religious affiliation? Here's something I posted before the Faith Forum in a thread about what people expected from it:

We're about to hear a lot of pathetic pandering, which the collective ignorance of America has made a prerequisite for any serious presidential contender. I look forward to the day our leaders aren't lulled into pretending to believe mythology in order to be elected.

I honestly don't even think Barack is religious. I feel like he's either atheist or agnostic, but talks about how awsm Jesus is just because it's the only way to stand a shot at office.
 
[quote name='Koggit']I honestly don't even think Barack is religious. I feel like he's either atheist or agnostic, but talks about how awsm Jesus is just because it's the only way to stand a shot at office.[/quote]

I could see that being true. Though on one level I'd find it disturbing that his going to church for 20 years and presumably lying to his family about what he truly believes was all an act to further his political career, I can see that atheists have limited options if they really want to get into office to accomplish things themselves.
 
[quote name='speedracer']What's the problem? I've only heard of the guy.[/QUOTE]

He once went on record saying that going into Iraq on false pretenses and doing terrible things to its citizens was no big deal because Saddam was bad.

I am not sure why he is viewed as some neutral moral/religious arbiter when the guys is quite conservative and there is quite a bit of scripture against that kind of thinking.
 
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[quote name='looploop']I could see that being true. Though on one level I'd find it disturbing that his going to church for 20 years and presumably lying to his family about what he truly believes was all an act to further his political career, I can see that atheists have limited options if they really want to get into office to accomplish things themselves.[/quote]


I would find it/and do that being a christian is required to get into politics.

Its scenes like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp8hmkTtjvo

that make me cringe
 
[quote name='DarkSageRK']Well now, this is interesting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/us/politics/18mccain.html?ref=politics[/QUOTE]

Also this
“The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous,” Ms. Wallace said.

McCain has had honesty issues before (whether you wish to say no more than any other politician fine whatever) but seriously come the fuck on are they really going to throw that out for everything? Reading the article correctly someone or both of them told a lie.
 
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