Ron Paul Raises Stunning $4.3 Million Online in 24 Hours

Zen Davis

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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=3822989&page=1

Mark it down: A landmark moment entered the annals of political fundraising: Nov. 5, 2007.

Texas Republican Ron Paul, the Libertarian presidential candidate who has lagged in the polls but raised as much money as top-tier candidates, passed $4.3 million in online fundraising in 24 hours.

Paul's Haul May Set Online Record

It was a big deal back in 2000 when Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., raised $1 million online in the 24 hours after his upset victory over then-Gov. George W. Bush in the New Hampshire primary.


McCain's impressive take was seen as the birth of online fundraising -- a moment when online donors gained considerable respect.



Paul raised just over $5 million in the most recent fundraising quarter, which ended September 30. The campaign has set an official goal of raising $12 million between Oct.1 and the end of 2007.


As of midnight Sunday, Nov. 4, the Paul campaign claimed to have raised $2.77 million.


Monday's drive was coordinated by an independent Web site but received the tacit endorsement of Paul on the stump this week.

He told supporters at a rally in Columbia, S.C., that the mainstream media is more likely to pay attention if he raises more money. And that attention will lead to more mainstream voters hearing his message.
 
What's the big deal about Ron Paul...why would we elect a Libertarian candidate when we could get a Democrat in the White House? He does have some good ideas, but other candidates have better ones. Why is he garnering all this attention?

Edwards/Biden 2008, BTW.
 
[quote name='Unickuta']What's the big deal about Ron Paul...why would we elect a Libertarian candidate when we could get a Democrat in the White House? He does have some good ideas, but other candidates have better ones. Why is he garnering all this attention?

Edwards/Biden 2008, BTW.[/quote]

Personally he seems to come off with a lot more integrity than just about anyone in the race. He seems to stick true to his scruples and even though I may not agree with him one hundred percent, at least I know the guy is being honest with me.

Clinton, Edwards, Biden, and many others just seem to jump on the next political hot train and play politics. Ron Paul doesn't seem to do that shit. Obama seems to be all right but out of everyone, Ron Paul seems to be the most ernest.
 
using another poster's words: "he's the snakes on a plane of political candidates"
 
[quote name='Apossum']using another poster's words: "he's the snakes on a plane of political candidates"[/quote]
Time will tell.

For now Ron Paul now has the greatest one day gain for a Republican and is only third overall behind Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama in single day gains.

Paul's total deposed Mitt Romney as the single-day fundraising record holder in the Republican presidential field. When it comes to sums amassed in one day, Paul now ranks only behind Democrats Hillary Rodham Clinton, who raised nearly $6.2 million on June 30, and Barack Obama.
 
[quote name='Unickuta']What's the big deal about Ron Paul...why would we elect a Libertarian candidate when we could get a Democrat in the White House? He does have some good ideas, but other candidates have better ones. Why is he garnering all this attention?

Edwards/Biden 2008, BTW.[/QUOTE]

Because radical socialism constitutes as great a threat to a thriving economy and a greater threat to civil liberties than the Bush Administration's moderate fascism. Edwards would sink the economy in less than one term, and doesn't allow for a citizen to have any freedom of conscience from whatever he thinks best, like mandatory GYN screenings from gov't approved and funded doctors. That reasoning for voting for a democrat is still voting for nanny government, just a nanny with a nose-piercing and a protest sign instead of a pocket full of business cards.

At least Obama doesn't have fire spewing from his nostrils. I don't agree with the man, but he gives the distinct impression of having lived on Earth for at least the past five years, which is more than I could say for the others.
 
[quote name='diaeresis']Because radical socialism constitutes as great a threat to a thriving economy and a greater threat to civil liberties than the Bush Administration's moderate fascism. Edwards would sink the economy in less than one term, and doesn't allow for a citizen to have any freedom of conscience from whatever he thinks best, like mandatory GYN screenings from gov't approved and funded doctors. That reasoning for voting for a democrat is still voting for nanny government, just a nanny with a nose-piercing and a protest sign instead of a pocket full of business cards.

At least Obama doesn't have fire spewing from his nostrils. I don't agree with the man, but he gives the distinct impression of having lived on Earth for at least the past five years, which is more than I could say for the others.[/quote]

That just about sums up the main reasons.

Libertarianism is about freedom in both social and economic issues. That's why a libertarian is the better choice. At least, that's the most basic, simple way to sum it up.
 
I think if Ron Paul wins, he will basically be a reboot for the entire country and I think that a lot of people are willing to accept a reboot versus the craziness that's going on right now. It may not end well but at least its not this.
 
[quote name='prmononoke']Libertarianism is about freedom in both social and economic issues. That's why a libertarian is the better choice. At least, that's the most basic, simple way to sum it up.[/quote]

Ron Paul? Libertarian my ass.

The guy is pro-life for goodness sakes.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']Time will tell.

For now Ron Paul now has the greatest one day gain for a Republican and is only third overall behind Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama in single day gains.[/quote]Did you check the facts, or are you buying into the mainstream media's desperate grasp at straws to devalue what Mitt Romney has done?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2007/01/romneys_big_day.html

$6.5 million in one day back in January. You know, Huckabee isn't very likely but the MSM has been elevating him lately in hopes of taking wind out of Romney's sail....
 
[quote name='prmononoke']That just about sums up the main reasons.

Libertarianism is about freedom in both social and economic issues. That's why a libertarian is the better choice. At least, that's the most basic, simple way to sum it up.[/QUOTE]

Oh, bleh. The economic crisis we're in currently is not due to the restrictions on the free market, but the free market itself.

Socially, I suppose I can agree with libertarians, except most self-identifying libertarians focus so hardcore on the economic side of things that they lack detail, attention, and integrity towards social issues. You think Paul's such a good libertarian that he'd allow gay marriage to occur legally? As others point out, he's also pro-life. What's so goddamned freedom oriented about that? He's as concerned with social issues as you probably are with the current state of the economy in the former Yugoslavian region. Dig?

Libertarianism is the last respite for disgusted ex-Republicans who still buy into that selfish dumbass "I can spend my money better than the government can" mentality - which, while it has a modicum of merit, is a silly argument.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Oh, bleh. The economic crisis we're in currently is not due to the restrictions on the free market, but the free market itself.

Socially, I suppose I can agree with libertarians, except most self-identifying libertarians focus so hardcore on the economic side of things that they lack detail, attention, and integrity towards social issues. You think Paul's such a good libertarian that he'd allow gay marriage to occur legally? As others point out, he's also pro-life. What's so goddamned freedom oriented about that? He's as concerned with social issues as you probably are with the current state of the economy in the former Yugoslavian region. Dig?

Libertarianism is the last respite for disgusted ex-Republicans who still buy into that selfish dumbass "I can spend my money better than the government can" mentality - which, while it has a modicum of merit, is a silly argument.[/quote]

Hence why I called a Paul win a reboot for the country. I think some things will go backwards that shouldn't, but some things will go backwards that should and then it'll be up to future politicians to try sorting things out in the right direction compared to how badly we're losing our rights as it is.
 
whys everyone calling him a libertarian. sure he ran as one several years ago (only because he couldnt get on the republican ticket) but hes a republican, hes a republican in congress and hes running as a republican now.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']whys everyone calling him a libertarian. sure he ran as one several years ago (only because he couldnt get on the republican ticket) but hes a republican, hes a republican in congress and hes running as a republican now.[/QUOTE]

Because the modern Republican party is 30+ years removed from Goldwater-style conservatism. Those folks up and left and ran to the Libertarian party (those who were smart enough to avoid "holding their noses" at the polls).

Speaking of which, I hope you all voted today if your state has a general election. C'mon Steve Beshear!
 
[quote name='Unickuta']

Edwards/Biden 2008, BTW.[/quote]

Ron Paul has a better chance than them two combined! :)
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Hillary is still going to win easily.[/QUOTE]

I don't think that any political attack ads/negative political dialogue will hold a fuckin' candle to what would happen if a woman was the GOP/DNC presidential nominee.

You ain't seen nothin' yet.
 
I donated yesterday. Freedom is a popular message.

Anyways, my girlfriend is very pissed off at me right now. She said, "You gave a $100 to who??? a politician!!!! You should've donated that to a soup kitchen!!!"
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
Libertarianism is the last respite for disgusted ex-Republicans who still buy into that selfish dumbass "I can spend my money better than the government can" mentality - which, while it has a modicum of merit, is a silly argument.[/QUOTE]

Because our current dual-party canidates have SUCH a better track record of spending our money?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I don't think that any political attack ads/negative political dialogue will hold a fuckin' candle to what would happen if a woman was the GOP/DNC presidential nominee.

You ain't seen nothin' yet.[/quote]

"Sure, you could elect Hillary to be President next year. But, will you agree with that decision for a week out of every month? I didn't think so."

[quote name='level1online']I donated yesterday. Freedom is a popular message.

Anyways, my girlfriend is very pissed off at me right now. She said, "You gave a $100 to who??? a politician!!!! You should've donated that to a soup kitchen!!!"[/quote]

She's right.
 
Doesn't Ron Paul want to abolish the Federal Reserve? The man's a maniac. Good thing he'll never be elected.

[quote name='Hex']"Sure, you could elect Hillary to be President next year. But, will you agree with that decision for a week out of every month? I didn't think so."
[/QUOTE]:rofl:
 
An email I just got from Ron Paul:

November 6, 2007


Amazing! I have to admit being floored by the $4.2 million dollars you raised yesterday for this campaign. And unlike the fatcat operations of the opposition, the average contribution from our 36,672 donors was $103.

I say "you raised," because this historic event was created, organized, and run by volunteers. This is the spirit that has protected American freedom in our past; this is the spirit that is doing so again.

Some of the mainstream media have sat up and taken notice. Others have pooh-poohed our record online fundraising. But the day is coming--far faster than they know--when they will not be able to ignore our freedom revolution.

We are working hard, with you, to spread our message far and wide-in New Hampshire, in South Carolina, in Iowa, and in every other state with a primary. And people are listening.

As you and I know, there is hope for America-in liberty and peace, and the prosperity they bring. There is hope for America--in a sound dollar, the rule of law, and the Constitution. There is hope for America--in a people's revolution that brings us all together, of whatever race and age and background.

What momentum we have! Please help me keep it up. As you and I know, and our opponents are only suspecting, we have Success on our minds, and in our hearts.

Freedom! Surely it is worth all our hard work. Please help me continue to do that work, with your continuing support https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate

Without your help, this campaign would be dead in the water. Help us keep steaming towards victory.

Sincerely,

Ron
 
[quote name='level1online']I donated yesterday. Freedom is a popular message.

Anyways, my girlfriend is very pissed off at me right now. She said, "You gave a $100 to who??? a politician!!!! You should've donated that to a soup kitchen!!!"[/QUOTE]

You should listen to your girlfriend more. :D

myke - You can easily be pro-life and "freedom-oriented." It merely takes a belief that there are two lives in the balance, and one life's convenience does not take precedence over another life's life. But I have a distinct feeling any further discussion will take this thread seriously OT, so I'll cap it here.
 
[quote name='Hex']"Sure, you could elect Hillary to be President next year. But, will you agree with that decision for a week out of every month? I didn't think so."
[/QUOTE]

Who said that nugget of genius?

[quote name='elprincipe']myke - You can easily be pro-life and "freedom-oriented." It merely takes a belief that there are two lives in the balance, and one life's convenience does not take precedence over another life's life. But I have a distinct feeling any further discussion will take this thread seriously OT, so I'll cap it here.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough. It doesn't change that libertarianism is still far too focused on economic concerns and seemingly uninterested (thus their laissez-faire attitude) towards social issues. With many state constitutions now regarding homosexuals and common-law heterosexual households as second-class citiziens via their denial of rights, I demand more than laissez-faire at this point.
 
I wish the best for Dr. Paul, I hope he gets the nomination. The democrats could run an ugly, one-legged, lesbian, eskimo Marxist and win in a landslide.

RONPAUL2008!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Oh, bleh. The economic crisis we're in currently is not due to the restrictions on the free market, but the free market itself.

Socially, I suppose I can agree with libertarians, except most self-identifying libertarians focus so hardcore on the economic side of things that they lack detail, attention, and integrity towards social issues. You think Paul's such a good libertarian that he'd allow gay marriage to occur legally? As others point out, he's also pro-life. What's so goddamned freedom oriented about that? He's as concerned with social issues as you probably are with the current state of the economy in the former Yugoslavian region. Dig?

Libertarianism is the last respite for disgusted ex-Republicans who still buy into that selfish dumbass "I can spend my money better than the government can" mentality - which, while it has a modicum of merit, is a silly argument.[/quote]

I think he might be pro-choice only in theory. He doesn't sound like the type of guy who would go out of his way to outlaw abortion. Which brings up an interesting point.. Aren't the terms pro-choice and pro-life fairly loaded? Who isn't pro-choice? Who isn't pro-life?
 
I'm not pro-life because I am educated enough to understand that it is a term of art used in an abortion debate to signify the position that abortion should be illegal.

As to Paul's fund raising, I'm completely apathetic.

I'm not really sure how I feel about donating money to a candidate. If you think that's the best use for your money, go ahead. I'll support them with something more important, my vote.

I voted yesterday, it feels good to have done it and every good citizen in a democracy should vote IMO.

There needs to be serious and significant campaign reform. I don't think the campaigns should start until Spring of the year of the election. Too much time, money, media coverage, and energy is spent on dirty campaigns so early when the public really has not even started paying attention yet. The timing of the campaigns is out of sync with the timing of the public to be receptive to it. Plus, how well can our representatives be doing their jobs when some of them are going to 60 fundraisers a month?
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']I think he might be pro-choice only in theory. He doesn't sound like the type of guy who would go out of his way to outlaw abortion. Which brings up an interesting point.. Aren't the terms pro-choice and pro-life fairly loaded? Who isn't pro-choice? Who isn't pro-life?[/quote]

That's why such terms are rather superfluous: Anti-Abortion, Pro-Abortion. That's all people need to say.
 
Paul's fundraising numbers are incredible, especially considering he's been ignored by the mainstream GOP for quite a while...along with the media. It's hard to ignore him when he raised that much in one day...almost exclusively online.

Paul is an idealistic libertarian who has shown time and again that its the federal government's job to not do much of anything. From what I've noticed, if he had his way, the federal government would be doing nothing more than setting up international treaties, patroling the border, and setting up laws which uphold the Constitution -- all else would probably be whittled down to nothing. He's very isolationistic in his foreign policy views which, to a certain extent, wouldn't be terrible for us to heed at least for a little while. My problem is I think it's too naieve to think we can follow such a policy forever. He's very much opposed to abortion but, like most "pro-life" candidates, doesn't have much of a plan to reduce the number of them. This is part of why I like Giuliani, who has a track record of lowering the number of abortions and increasing the number of adoptions (see statistics in NYC during his tenure...I had them all compiled at one point). Partially by making abortions more readily accessible, oddly enough...but, I digress...

If someone really wants to reduce the number of abortions they need to a) make it so contraception is easily accessible to both men and women; b) come up with better sex education in the schools than what we have now; and c) make adoption WAY more accessible than it is now. As it is, adoption is a state-by-state issue. This is a system which molds the future of our children and their right to live their lives far more than any other system we have in place -- you would think it would be federalized. Of all the things the federal government has claimed is under their pervue, I'm surprised this isn't among them.
 
Paul beleives states should have the right to decide on abortion and most other laws. The basic idea is that conservatives will migrate to a state with the laws that fit them and liberals to a state that fits their views providing freedom of choice to all americans political ideas.
 
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