Rove: McCain went 'too far' in ads

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Rove goes after Obama as well, to nobody's surprise, but if Karl Rove thinks McCain's campaign is going too far, that's not a good sign for his campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/14/campaign.wrap/index.html

(CNN) -- Former Bush adviser Karl Rove said Sunday that Sen. John McCain had gone "one step too far" in some of his recent ads attacking Sen. Barack Obama.
Karl Rove said both candidates are guilty of going too far in their attacks.

Karl Rove said both candidates are guilty of going too far in their attacks.

Rove has leveled similar criticism against Obama.

"McCain has gone in some of his ads -- similarly gone one step too far," he told Fox News, "and sort of attributing to Obama things that are, you know, beyond the '100 percent truth' test."

The Obama campaign immediately leaped on the quote.

"In case anyone was still wondering whether John McCain is running the sleaziest, most dishonest campaign in history, today Karl Rove -- the man who held the previous record -- said McCain's ads have gone too far," said campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor, in a statement sent to reporters minutes after Rove's on-air comments. Rove masterminded both of President Bush's successful White House bids.

Rove said both candidates need to "be careful" about their attacks on each other.

"They ought to -- there ought to be an adult who says, 'Do we really need to go that far in this ad? Don't we make our point and won't we get broader acceptance and deny the opposition an opportunity to attack us if we don't include that one little last tweak in the ad?' " he said.

Obama on Saturday accused McCain and vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin of avoiding the issues to "distort" his record.

"They're going to talk about pigs, and they're going to talk about lipstick; they're going to talk about Paris Hilton, they're going to talk about Britney Spears. They will try to distort my record, and they will try to undermine your trust in what the Democrats intend to do," he said at a stop in Manchester, New Hampshire.

McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds criticized Obama for showing "zero restraint," considering what Gulf Coast residents were facing after Hurricane Ike. Bounds said the "attacks mark a new low from Barack Obama."

The Obama campaign shot back and accused McCain of "cynically running the sleaziest and least honorable campaign in modern presidential campaign history."

McCain said last week that he thinks the tone of the campaign would be different had Obama agreed to appear with him in town hall meetings across the country.

Both McCain and Obama laid low on Sunday. McCain attended a NASCAR race in Loudon, New Hampshire.

Obama had no public events scheduled, but Sen. Hillary Clinton hit the trail for him in Akron, Ohio.

Clinton repeated her campaign one-liner -- "No way, no how, no McCain, no Palin."

The New York senator said "all that McCain and Palin offer is four more years of the same failed policies and wrong direction and disappointment and difficulties that have confronted our country."

"Barack and I may have started out on two separate paths, but we are on one journey now," she said.

Meanwhile, the Obama campaign announced Sunday that it had raised $66 million in August. The new total bests the campaign's previous high of $55 million, which came in February during his tough primary fight with Clinton.

The Obama campaign said more than half a million new donors contributed in August, when the Illinois senator accepted the Democratic presidential nomination and named Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware as his running mate. The campaign had more than $77 million in cash on hand at the end of August, compared with about $66 million in July.

On September 1, McCain's campaign reported raising $47 million in August. That haul also set a monthly record for the Arizona senator, whose campaign says it received a financial shot in the arm after McCain picked Palin to join the ticket.

Obama has rejected public financing, calling the system "broken" -- a decision that frees him to continue raising money for November.

McCain has accepted federal matching funds for his general election campaign, giving him $84 million to spend for November. The money comes with strict spending limits, but the Republican National Committee's victory fund can continue to raise and spend money on his behalf.

With Palin on the campaign trail, McCain has been seeing increased numbers and energy at his campaign events.

The two will hold joint town hall meetings sometime early this week.

A McCain adviser said early plans are to hold the town halls in western Michigan and Wisconsin, although the exact details of where and when they will be held are still being worked out.
 
McCain took his cues from Rove so yeah that is certainly passing the buck.

If anyone wonders why McCain and cons are so dead set against discussing issues here is a clue:


As part of Social Security reform, I believe that private savings accounts are a part of it—along the lines that President Bush proposed,” McCain told the Journal.[Wall Street Journal, 3/3/08; Campaign Website, accessed 3/3/08]

Looking at wall street the last few days...
 
This just proves how much the MSM is in the tank for Obama. Rove actually said both campaign are over the top, and suggested Obama is worse. Quite unbelievable that news sources like CNN just conveniently leaves off the Obama criticism.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/14/rove-both-campaigns-ads-are-over-the-top/


It's a sad day that we have to go to foxnews to get the proper story.
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"Political strategist Karl Rove said Obama may not have consciously wanted to attribute Palin with porcine traits when he used the “lipstick on a pig” analogy to describe the McCain campaign’s policies, but it sure looked like “a deliberate slap” at the Alaska governor.

“The only time this word has intruded in recent months in the campaign was in her, you know, self-deprecating remark at the convention. So for him to use the lipstick remark less than two weeks after she used it struck me as too much of a coincidence not to have been a deliberate attack,” Rove told “FOX News Sunday.”

The ex-White House deputy chief of staff also said Obama is fair in suggesting that McCain is a longtime Washington insider — since McCain has been in Congress since 1982 — but went over the line in attacking the Republican candidate as out of touch because he doesn’t send e-mail or use a computer.

McCain’s “war injuries keep him from being able to use a keyboard. He can’t type. You know, it’s like saying he can’t do jumping jacks. Well, there’s a reason why he can’t raise his arms above his head. There’s a reason why he doesn’t have the nimbleness in his fingers,” Rove said.

Without specifying, Rove said McCain’s campaign has also gone “one step too far” in some of its ads by attributing to Obama some criticisms that don’t meet “the 100-percent-truth test.”

Rove said that the campaigns don’t have to tell 100 percent of the tale when trying to score points but they do have to be careful about claims that are flat out wrong."
 
[quote name='rumblebear']This just proves how much the MSM is in the tank for Obama. Rove actually said both campaign are over the top, and suggested Obama is worse. Quite unbelievable that news sources like CNN just conveniently leaves off the Obama criticism. [/quote]


second and third sentences

Karl Rove said both candidates are guilty of going too far in their attacks.

Rove has leveled similar criticism against Obama.
 
CNN mentioned the Obama criticism. Are you blind? They didn't focus on it, no, but that because it's obvious to anyone familiar with Rove that only the comment about McCain is newsworthy. Rove is absolutely known for, any time he has to voice criticism against the GOP, doubling up the blame on the dem rival even if it's unwarranted. His remarks about Obama aren't substantial they're just a way for him to say "I don't approve of this by McCain... but that doesn't mean Obama's better!"


Case in point: In criticizing McCain for the "intensely political" choice of Palin as his running mate, Rove tried to say that both presidential nominees choose their running mate exclusively for political purposes. He tried to say that Obama choosing Biden for his foreign relations experience is just as bad as McCain's publicity stunt of a pick... that's simply what Rove does.


So when he claims both McCain & Obama are playing too dirty, it means McCain is playing too dirty.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']second and third sentences

Karl Rove said both candidates are guilty of going too far in their attacks.

Rove has leveled similar criticism against Obama.[/QUOTE]

Shut up with your reading comprehension. You vote Democrat or sumthin'?
 
Damn lee-ber-uhl media.

They only mention Larry Craig's homosexual bathroom sex games. What about all the times he had straight sex with his wife?
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']second and third sentences

Karl Rove said both candidates are guilty of going too far in their attacks.

Rove has leveled similar criticism against Obama.[/QUOTE]

wow do you honestly think that 2 short sentence makes the article objective enough? Look at the headline. Look at the context of the article. Majority of it is heavily skewed against McCain and make it look like Rove singled him out, when in reality he hit on Obama much harder.
 
[quote name='rumblebear']wow do you honestly think that 2 short sentence makes the article objective enough? Look at the headline. Look at the context of the article. Majority of it is heavily skewed against McCain and make it look like Rove singled him out, when in reality he hit on Obama much harder.[/quote]

Of course he did, he's Karl Rove. I don't think you're understanding what the other posters are saying. Rove attacking Obama isn't news - Rove attacking McCain is news.
 
[quote name='rumblebear']wow do you honestly think that 2 short sentence makes the article objective enough? Look at the headline. Look at the context of the article. Majority of it is heavily skewed against McCain and make it look like Rove singled him out, when in reality he hit on Obama much harder.[/quote]


because him attacking Obama is expected, him attacking McCain not so much. If we bombed Iraq and England on the same day, which story would be more covered, we attacked an enemy or an ally. Its really just that simple
 
I don't trust Rove at all.

His pitch is surely to show that McCain = "change" (or whatever crap mantra he's proposing).

If McCain =/= Rove, then McCain =/= Bush. Easy refutation, at least symbolically, of the biggest (and more true) criticism of McCain.
 
[quote name='camoor']Damn lee-ber-uhl media.

They only mention Larry Craig's homosexual bathroom sex games. What about all the times he had straight sex with his wife?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but he was givin' it to her in the butt.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']because him attacking Obama is expected, him attacking McCain not so much. If we bombed Iraq and England on the same day, which story would be more covered, we attacked an enemy or an ally. Its really just that simple[/QUOTE]

Nope is called twisting the facts and narrative to make McCain look worse, plain and simple. You can try to spin and defend the MSM all you want, but it still doesn't change the fact that the MSM is heavily in the tank for Obama.
 
[quote name='rumblebear']Nope is called twisting the facts and narrative to make McCain look worse, plain and simple. [/quote]

But ... McCain is worse.
 
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