say goodbye to Harold & Kumar

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I'm sure at one point New Line Cinema thought about making a third one but after reading this on yahoo it does not look like they will make another one. The article is about Kal Penn's character on House but he does say something about Harold & Kumar.
 
Well, they are pushing 40, well the Kumar guy anyway... And it is whack that Kutner had to go kill himself.

But hey, congrats to Pen for the White House job.
 
[quote name='DestroVega']does he have qualifications for this job?[/QUOTE]

He is Indian-American and willing to treat that as a professional function. That is essentially the sole qualification. It is exactly the sort of thing for which Kumar would express contempt.
 
thank god...good bye fucktards!

That guy will have to really convince me that he can play Sulu..but for some strange reason I have the feeling he is going to take out a blunt during the new trek movie as a nod to his H&K movies.
 
Kal Penn wouldn't have done another Karold and Kumar movie anyway. He was actually on my campus not long ago doing a Q&A, where he stated he regrets doing the H&K movies because they made everyone think he was just a big stoner.
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']thank god...good bye fucktards!

That guy will have to really convince me that he can play Sulu..but for some strange reason I have the feeling he is going to take out a blunt during the new trek movie as a nod to his H&K movies.[/quote]
That's John Cho who's playing Sulu, Harold from H & K.
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']thank god...good bye fucktards!

That guy will have to really convince me that he can play Sulu..but for some strange reason I have the feeling he is going to take out a blunt during the new trek movie as a nod to his H&K movies.[/QUOTE]

The thought of ITDEFX looking down on someone, let alone calling some a fucktard, absolutely baffles me.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']Then why didn't he quit after the first one? The money probably had something to do with it.[/quote]


I was under the impression he hadn't realized what it did to his reputation until the second one was already in production. I don't know for sure though.
 
[quote name='Sofa King Kool']Kal Penn wouldn't have done another Karold and Kumar movie anyway. He was actually on my campus not long ago doing a Q&A, where he stated he regrets doing the H&K movies because they made everyone think he was just a big stoner.[/quote]

Well that's the problem with HW. Once you play a character really well, everyone is going to remember you for that character for years. Sure you will be mega rich...but when you try to find something outside of the type cast role you played in your last movie it can be a bitch. If Cho can pull off Sulu really well (and from what I read, he and the rest of the cast does it well!) then it should not be too hard for him to recover from his "Stoner" image...as he will go from Stone Head to pilot of the Enterprise in no time.
 
Like he thought Kumar was a big step up from Van Wilder's Taj character. I like him as an actor. He's good. But really, presidential job material? No way.
 
He seems like an intelligent guy who's got a genuine affection towards public service. My UPenn friend took his AMA class when he guest lectured there. She said he was very bright and had a lot of insightful lectures about how Asians are portrayed in the media.
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In regards to Dr. Kutner

All signs point to murder:

1. When Foreman called 911, he said that Kutner shot himself in the right temple. Kutner was face down with the gun on his left side.

2. His body position is another issue. Recall that his face was hidden from view from our vantage point (Our left, which is his right). If he shot himself in the right temple, the momentum of the gunshot would have caused his body to collapse to his left (our right).

3. House ripped on Kutner for being left handed a few episodes back. It's a little odd that he'd shoot himself with his right hand.
 
[quote name='epobirs']He is Indian-American and willing to treat that as a professional function. That is essentially the sole qualification. It is exactly the sort of thing for which Kumar would express contempt.[/quote]

That's a rather cynical oversimplification of the position. For someone not ingrained in the political network of Washington DC, it's a rather significant opportunity to work closely with the highest offices in American government. There are obvious limits to what that office does and what it means overall, but it's a stepping stone and an opportunity nonetheless.

I think the comment also discounts Penn's educational background and academic accomplishments. He's a smart guy, and I don't think he made this decision lightly or facetiously. Anyway, I'm not someone who's going to judge a person for making a decision that means something to them.
 
[quote name='Ziv']Like he thought Kumar was a big step up from Van Wilder's Taj character. I like him as an actor. He's good. But really, presidential job material? No way.[/quote]

Hahahaha...I know right? Exactly what I thought. He didn't exactly travel the road of being considered a "serious actor". But when you play similar roles multiple times (2 Van Wilder's, 2 H&K's), what sort of persona do you think you're creating? There's a reason people refer to Arnold as "The Governator".

I love Kal Penn and think he's a great actor, but it's sad that he thinks getting into politics will help more people than making them laugh would. At least watching Kal Penn movies made my day a little better. Can't remember the last time a politician was able to do that.
 
[quote name='Sofa King Kool']Kal Penn wouldn't have done another Karold and Kumar movie anyway. He was actually on my campus not long ago doing a Q&A, where he stated he regrets doing the H&K movies because they made everyone think he was just a big stoner.[/QUOTE]

I guess it is because of it being a different generation but Cheech Marin and Tommy Chong did the same type of movies. Chong I remember him more for them and that type of character but Cheech wanted to get a way from all that and did Nash Bridges. Thats what I think of him playing. All Kal needed to do to get away from that character is do movies where he can play a part that takes him a way from that character. Like he did in house. I was never a big fan of the show but when fliping through the channles I saw him and did think to myself hey thats the guy from Harold & Kumar. I watched the show and thought he did a really good job on it and forgot about the stoner character he played.
 
I don't understand why they had to kill him off the show, though. Leave the door open for a comeback.
 
They did it like that because it is a mystery that house could not solve. Atleast that is what they wanted for the story. It says that some place in the article. I would have liked for them to just have him leave and keep it open but if I read it right this is what everyone wanted.
 
I'll be cynical here and say that they killed Kutner purely for shock value. The "puzzle House can't solve" theme is primarily a convenient/lazy excuse, IMO.
 
I still think they copied the Shock value from Terminator, but I don't want to believe that since House isn't that low of a show.
 
Now that I think about it, I'm not really that surprised that Kutner died. They pulled this crap twice in Prison Break. Remember? They killed the girlfriends of the two brothers just like that!
 
[quote name='gunm']That's a rather cynical oversimplification of the position. For someone not ingrained in the political network of Washington DC, it's a rather significant opportunity to work closely with the highest offices in American government. There are obvious limits to what that office does and what it means overall, but it's a stepping stone and an opportunity nonetheless.

I think the comment also discounts Penn's educational background and academic accomplishments. He's a smart guy, and I don't think he made this decision lightly or facetiously. Anyway, I'm not someone who's going to judge a person for making a decision that means something to them.[/QUOTE]

Oh please, be serious. The job, to paraphrase Larry Niven, is 'Speaker to Asian-Americans.'

I make no apologies for having no respect for a position whose purpose is to make nice with ethnic grievance-mongers. It is huge step backwards in the handling of such things.
 
[quote name='epobirs']Oh please, be serious. The job, to paraphrase Larry Niven, is 'Speaker to Asian-Americans.'

I make no apologies for having no respect for a position whose purpose is to make nice with ethnic grievance-mongers. It is huge step backwards in the handling of such things.[/quote]



So how do you purpose to deal with these "ethnic grievance-mongers" then? Were the Japanese Americans interred in camps in WWII lacking of a grievance? With all the special interest positions in Washington I don't think "Speaker to Asian Americans" is as easily dismissed as any other group out there.

Anyway, no one is asking you to apologize for anything, but your reaction to this one guy's decision to take a job at the White House, no matter how sublime, seems unnecessarily harsh. At worst, I'd just scratch my head at such young guy giving up a reasonably well-paying gig on a popular prime time TV show. I wouldn't lose respect for him altogether though.
 
I interviewed Kal Penn on my radio show the day after his change of career was announced. He's got a great head on his shoulders, and is extremely genuine and friendly. I wish him well whatever he wants to do.

He said that he's always been driven to public service, and that he's not sure how long he'll be in the position, but that he's really excited about it.

Anyone who thinks he can't act should check out the movie The Namesake.
 
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[quote name='gunm']So how do you purpose to deal with these "ethnic grievance-mongers" then? Were the Japanese Americans interred in camps in WWII lacking of a grievance? With all the special interest positions in Washington I don't think "Speaker to Asian Americans" is as easily dismissed as any other group out there.

Anyway, no one is asking you to apologize for anything, but your reaction to this one guy's decision to take a job at the White House, no matter how sublime, seems unnecessarily harsh. At worst, I'd just scratch my head at such young guy giving up a reasonably well-paying gig on a popular prime time TV show. I wouldn't lose respect for him altogether though.[/QUOTE]

When has youth ever stopped someone from becoming a true believer? He has become the model Obamaton.

Are you aware that immigrants and native-born Americans of German and Italian ancestry were also interned during WWII? That doesn't get much press because these groups know there were elements among them that genuinely did intend to support the other side given the chance.

The WWII internments have been grossly blown out of proportion and distorted largely because Jimmy Carter had no balls and no business being a national leader. Add to this that much of the Japanese message traffic that had been decrypted to our great advantage during the war was still classified due tot he decryption technology still being significant. Cheap personal computers put an end to that.

The fact is, the Japanese government at the start of the war genuinely believed they had a good number of people within the US that would carry out their bidding to undermine US capabilities. This was the same message traffic whose interception and decryption allowed many US victories, so it wasn't unreasonable for the messages regarding agents within the US to be taken seriously. Nobody who knows the full story is allowed or willing to give the details, from either side . Many such persons may have gone to their graves decades later without ever having broken cover because there was nothing meaningful they could do while interned.

Did this suck for the rest of the Japanese-Americans who were also affected? Of course. But then it sucked far more to be a resident of any of the places the Japanese had invaded with extraordinary brutality in the years before the US entered the war. War in general tends to hurt lots of innocent bystanders. This is why war is regarded as bad and isn't generally pursued just for shits and giggles.

The world has changed a great deal from that era. If all of the work regarding civil rights and equality along the way is really intended to mean anything, then it also means you make your complaints as a citizen and where you ancestors came from and what the weather was like there is a mere detail.

Having a liason just to pretend respect to special interests on basis of ancestry is something we should be long past. But dividing people is something the Left thrives upon and this is one of the ways they encourage people do it to themselves.
 
[quote name='NeoFrank1']I almost forgot that this guy was in Epic Movie....Ugh. It's probably a good thing he won't be "acting" for a while.[/quote]


Yeah, I was really upset that I missed the aforementioned Q&A, because I was dying to ask him if Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer actually believe that they're good/funny writers, or if they simply know that collective American audiences are so stupid that shitting on a movie screen will provide sufficient profits.
 
[quote name='epobirs']When has youth ever stopped someone from becoming a true believer? He has become the model Obamaton.[/quote]


Ok, now we're really OT and off track here (though I admit I'm really tempted to continue this discussion). You can argue the whole Left Wing conspiracy stuff and whether America is really ready for true homogenization blah blah blah in the versus section.
 
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