Sega 32X and Sega CD - Were they all Weak Games?

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Senaz28

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I mean what a wash in terms of utilizing the technology. I picked up the CD 32X along with a Gen2 console for $40 for X-mas. The 32X is pretty nifty but the only games worth their salt that I bought are Star Wars Arcade, Virtua Racing Deluxe, DOOM, Afterburner, and I picked up Knuckles Chaotix for $4.50. Then after some research I came to find out that it only has 30 games in the library and the other titles look like they suck. Is it so?

The Sega CD's games aren't much better it seems. I picked up Corpse Killler (32X CD) and it bites, Dragon's Lair just doesn't seem to have any replay value at all, Tomcat Allley- FMV is cool to look at but not exciting, Star Wars Rebel Assault is disappointing, but Batman Returns is definitely good. I have 2 more games I'm waiting to receive in the mail which seem to be promising, Sonic CD and The Terminator. I've heard of the Lunar Stars but I'm not into RPGs.

Why do these systems have such good potential but games that suck?
 
These Sega Add on systems never really caught on and were too expensive when they were released. There was also not enought 3rd or 1st party support for game development, but there are a few games worth owning. For 32x be sure to pick up Shadow Squadron, Virtua Fighter, and T-mek, those games are all very fun (in addition to the ones you listed). For sega cd there are probably even fewer good games, but pick up Popful Mail (action/rpg), Lords of Thunder, Robo Aleste, Mortal Kombat, Final Fight, and Sonic CD.
 
32x has some decent games (knuckles chaotix being my favorite), but it's hit or miss. Some say it's tolerable, others despise every game on the system. The sega cd is entirely different, there are many great games on it. Lunar silver star, lunar eternal blue, popful mail, lords of thunder (though the turbo duo version is better), sonic, shining force, vay, dark wizard, snatcher, keio flying squadron, eternal champions etc. Great if like rpg's, but either way the system has many overlooked gems. Also, if you want something really unique check out bouncers. It's a basketball game played just by basketballs, no people.
 
Virtua Racing made the 32X worthwhile all by itself, as far as I was concerned.

As for the CD, I actually really enjoyed Sewer Shark. But then, I'm weird. :D
 
Shining Force CD is a great game, but it may be hard to find.

I played the first Lunar game on the Sega CD, but it hasn't aged well. The graphics and gameplay are too simple - the battle system plays kind of like Suikoden 3 or simplified grandia 2.
 
I always wanted to play WWF Rage in the Cage for the SegaCD.

As for the 32X, get Kolibri (sp?). It's a hummingbird shooter thats both weird and good.
 
Lunar and Lunar 2 are both excellent games on the Sega CD, but you said you don't like RPG's. :? The two Lunars are the only Sega CD games I have played, and that was only because I am a Lunar whore! I am in the process of tracking down all of the Japanese versions at this very moment...
 
Third World War for Sega CD was one of my favorites, pretty hard to find now though. Sometimes it can be found an Ebay, but not at the moment.
 
One game owned for Sega CD.

One.

and I'm gong to take a picture of it.

snatcher.jpg

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Brother, you are DAMN right...

Here's mine :D.

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That was the only reason I even bought a Sega CD. I got the Sega CD hardware for $29.99 new and Snatcher for $12.99 new. Both from Kay-Bee's. I think I still have the original receipt too.
 
There are some excellent games for Sega CD, like the Lunars, Vay, Popful Mail, Keio's Flying Squadron, Shining Force CD, Snatcher, Silpheed, Dark Wizard, Robo Aleste (sequel to Musha), and Sonic CD (my favorite Sonic game all time). Ecco the Dolphin 1+2, and Eternal Champions were all much better on Sega CD. But theres really only one good game on 32x, and it was only released in Europe. Darxide.

Sega CD failed as a system, but it had great games which to this day aren't anywhere else. 32x had about a month and a half lifespan anyway.
 
I'd also say that I enjoyed my Sega CD and 32X. Snatcher, the Lunar games, Popful Mail, Final Fight CD, Shining Force CD, Sonic CD, etc. all made the Sega CD worth having. With the 32X, the pickings seem a bit more slim, but Star Wars Arcade, Blackthorne, Shadow Squadron & Virtua Fighter.

Frankly, I loved the early 90's and all of the seemingly not-so-wonderful platforms they spawned. Virtual Boy, TurboGrafX-16 (actually in '89), and later the 3DO, CDi and Atari Jaguar. They all got panned, but there are plenty of diamonds in the rough if you'll take the time to look.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']There are some excellent games for Sega CD, like the Lunars, Vay, Popful Mail, Keio's Flying Squadron, Shining Force CD, Snatcher, Silpheed, Dark Wizard, Robo Aleste (sequel to Musha), and Sonic CD (my favorite Sonic game all time). Ecco the Dolphin 1+2, and Eternal Champions were all much better on Sega CD. But theres really only one good game on 32x, and it was only released in Europe. Darxide.

Sega CD failed as a system, but it had great games which to this day aren't anywhere else. 32x had about a month and a half lifespan anyway.[/quote]

Wow it took forever for someone to mention Eternal Champions. Me and my friend played that thing to death
 
Sega CD: Sonic CD, PANIC!, Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, Silpheed, Mickey Mania

32x: Knuckle's Chaotix, Kolibri, Star Wars Arcade

Those are really the only games I have that are any value on those 2 consoles. The rest are kinda meh.
 
Buh, remember Sewer Shark? That game was like all memory. How irritating. I had a basketball game on CD, and Sonic CD too -- but I beat that in one day. What a disappointment.

As for 32X, I only had Knuckles Chaotix. I don't remember it too well, but I do remember having fun with it for a while. Don't remember if I beat it, though.
 
For Sega CD games not mentioned above:

Afterburner 3, a nice version of Final Fight, Night Trap (for novelty), Road Avenger, Time Gal, Batman Returns (great car sequence!), Wolf Child, Wonder Dog, Secret of Monkey Island, Heart of the Alien, and Keio's Flying Squadron.

Overall the system is crap and so is the 32x, but thankfully they are not that expensive :)
 
[quote name='the_gloaming']Buh, remember Sewer Shark? That game was like all memory. How irritating. I had a basketball game on CD, and Sonic CD too -- but I beat that in one day. What a disappointment.

As for 32X, I only had Knuckles Chaotix. I don't remember it too well, but I do remember having fun with it for a while. Don't remember if I beat it, though.[/quote]
You may have "beaten" Sonic CD, but I bet you didn't get all the emeralds, plus caused a good future in each zone. Sonic CD is the best Sonic game ever.
 
I liked jurassic park!


There is one game that you control cameras in a all girls house. Cant remember the name. It was so controveral back in the day. Good for some cheap thrills if you are it to geting cheap thrills from games you can find it for around 2.00.
 
[quote name='Mr_hockey66']I liked jurassic park!


There is one game that you control cameras in a all girls house. Cant remember the name. It was so controveral back in the day. Good for some cheap thrills if you are it to geting cheap thrills from games you can find it for around 2.00.[/quote]

That was Night Trap.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']
You may have "beaten" Sonic CD, but I bet you didn't get all the emeralds, plus caused a good future in each zone. Sonic CD is the best Sonic game ever.[/quote]

Sonic CD is a great game. If you're a Sonic fan, try to track down the JP version. It has a different soundtrack including a rap intro.
 
[quote name='PimpBot2000'][quote name='dafoomie']
You may have "beaten" Sonic CD, but I bet you didn't get all the emeralds, plus caused a good future in each zone. Sonic CD is the best Sonic game ever.[/quote]

Sonic CD is a great game. If you're a Sonic fan, try to track down the JP version. It has a different soundtrack including a rap intro.[/quote]
Yeah, a lot of people think the Japanese soundtrack is better, I'm not sure though, I think the American soundtrack is very good. I'm not into Japanese rap at all, either, especially when its in English and about Sonic the Hedgehog.
 
I always liked the Spiderman game on Sega CD. It was a fairly cheesey sidescroller with Mr. Big as the soundtrack, but you had to know the comics to beat a lot of the bosses (use water to wash away sandman, souund to scramble Venom's symbiote, etc.). If you put it on easy it gave you unlimited webbing which meant endless web shields and no challenge, but I guess the staying close to the comics got a lot of milage from me.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I got the Sega CD hardware for $29.99 new and Snatcher for $12.99 new. Both from Kay-Bee's. I think I still have the original receipt too.[/quote]

You lucky bastard! I wish, I had Snatcher for the Sega CD...
 
[quote name='SEGA128DC'][quote name='GuilewasNK']That was the only reason I even bought a Sega CD. I got the Sega CD hardware for $29.99 new and Snatcher for $12.99 new. Both from Kay-Bee's. I think I still have the original receipt too.[/quote]

You lucky bastard! I wish, I had Snatcher for the Sega CD...[/quote]

The duo version is better :)
 
[quote name='opportunity777'][quote name='SEGA128DC'][quote name='GuilewasNK']That was the only reason I even bought a Sega CD. I got the Sega CD hardware for $29.99 new and Snatcher for $12.99 new. Both from Kay-Bee's. I think I still have the original receipt too.[/quote]

You lucky bastard! I wish, I had Snatcher for the Sega CD...[/quote]

The duo version is better :)[/quote]

Actually, isn't the Sega CD version better? IIRC, the Sega CD version was a port of the JP Duo version, but they also added the shooting/lightgun sequence in the Sega CD version.
 
[quote name='Karyyk']I'd also say that I enjoyed my Sega CD and 32X. Snatcher, the Lunar games, Popful Mail, Final Fight CD, Shining Force CD, Sonic CD, etc. all made the Sega CD worth having. With the 32X, the pickings seem a bit more slim, but Star Wars Arcade, Blackthorne, Shadow Squadron & Virtua Fighter.

Frankly, I loved the early 90's and all of the seemingly not-so-wonderful platforms they spawned. Virtual Boy, TurboGrafX-16 (actually in '89), and later the 3DO, CDi and Atari Jaguar. They all got panned, but there are plenty of diamonds in the rough if you'll take the time to look.[/quote]

The TG16 doesn't really belong on that list. Although never better than #3 in the US it was very well supported thanks to its strength in Japan where it held the #1 position for a time. It could have replicated that success in the US if NEC had been willing to challenge Nintendo of America's system of locking in third party developers. Numerous titles that were big hit on the NES in the US had greatly superior PC Engine version but they couldn't be published here. NEC wasn't willing to litigate against Nintendo because they were a major customer for NEC semiconductor products.

Sega didn't have this internal conflict and brought suit against NOA. The out of court settlement broke Nintendo's stranglehold on the US market.
 
Found Snatcher back in.. well, sometime before 1998.. for $9.99 used at some book store. Only got it because the cover looked cool.. little did I know that it'd become my favorite game ever!

WWF Rage In The Cage on Sega CD rocks as well.. I also have some Dracula thing that I never really played, Sewer Shark, Sonic 3D, something about Hook and 3 Ninjas Kick Back, and Jurassic Park, all complete.

*downloads Sega CD emulator since the system is broke and pulls out 3 Ninjas/Hook combo*

I think I just found my entertainment for the remainder of the night.
 
[quote name='opportunity777'][quote name='SEGA128DC'][quote name='GuilewasNK']That was the only reason I even bought a Sega CD. I got the Sega CD hardware for $29.99 new and Snatcher for $12.99 new. Both from Kay-Bee's. I think I still have the original receipt too.[/quote]

You lucky bastard! I wish, I had Snatcher for the Sega CD...[/quote]

The duo version is better :)[/quote]

Yeah, but for a game heavy on dialogue I'd rather have it in English. I can't read Japanese at all and I know few spoken words.
 
dafoomie -- You're right! I didn't "complete" Sonic CD in one day. I remember getting it for Christmas and having it finished by like 5PM. I killed all the UFOs within the next day or two and didn't even know about the machines/good futures until later on.

But yeah, eventually I did get all the Chaos Emeralds.

And not to go off topic, but I just beat Sonic 2 last night for the heck of it. Man, I used to play those games all the time! But you're right, Sonic CD is the best. I still have the theme songs on mp3 from it.
 
[quote name='the_gloaming']dafoomie -- You're right! I didn't "complete" Sonic CD in one day. I remember getting it for Christmas and having it finished by like 5PM. I killed all the UFOs within the next day or two and didn't even know about the machines/good futures until later on.

But yeah, eventually I did get all the Chaos Emeralds.

And not to go off topic, but I just beat Sonic 2 last night for the heck of it. Man, I used to play those games all the time! But you're right, Sonic CD is the best. I still have the theme songs on mp3 from it.[/quote]
Yeah, I went back and beat Sonic 1 not long ago myself, its fun but time consuming when you have to do it all in one sitting.
 
Having only read the first post, here are my brief thoughts.
32x: An insult to gamers. A year-long stopgap measure between generations. It had a few decent games, but nothing that was a 'killer app', and the consumer would have been better served had Sega put that money and energy into the Saturn hardware and advertising budget.
I did like Virtua Racing, and the Motorcross game, and RBI Baseball [I'm usually not a sports fan], and some of the games had some good music and sound [Tempo showed a lot of range], but all in all it was a joke.
Sega CD: Underserved and underappreciated. Perhaps it was the luck of timing [a local video rental store sold off a bunch of games for 4-9 bucks about four months after I bought my Sega CD], but it was a pretty decent add-on. Snatcher, the Working Designs games, KEIO Flying Squadron, Shining Force CD [although repetitive], Rage in the Cage, Mickey Mania, even Bouncers were all good, fun games, and the Sega CD's work in FMV-gaming was, while slightly ahead of its time, pretty interesting. [Hindsight--after beating Snatcher, I sold it on r.g.v.s, for like 30 bucks.] Terminator was a pretty good platformer, and I've heard Panic! is a unique one to hunt for. Battlecorps was pretty fun too; and Eternal Champions CD had great music.
Of the two consoles, I don't regret the Sega CD at all [bought probably around the 1st or 2nd price drop], while I would not have minded waiting to buy the 32x [I preordered it from a friend running a game shop who wasn't doing all that well financially.]
 
The 32X itself really shouldn't have been an insult given it's capabilites (better sound/gfx). This was a classic example of not letting the left hand know what the right is doing (SEGA of Japan and SEGA of America). Anyway I really like the games I have, I just wish there were more titles out there to explore. Picking them up at less than $5.00 a cart sure does make it a little easier to explore the games without feeling like I got ripped. By the way, is there any emulators for the 32X and games? Does Gens handle 32X roms?

The Sega CD is great. I am really enjoying Tomcat Alley, Batman Returns, and Sonic CD. I'm not big on Star Wars Rebel Assault, Dragon's Lair, and Corpse Killer though. And some B*stard on Half.com ripped me off $12.50 and never sent The Terminator. I even emailed him a week ago and he told me he would get back to me ASAP...yeah right.

-Brian P
 
Whoa, killer! I just found two more of my Sega CD games .. Star Wars Rebel Assault, and Midnight Raiders. I don't even remember playing Midnight Raiders. I think someone gave me both of these.

Too bad I can't hook the thing up. You think any stores sell wires/pieces for the Sega CD, or even the 32X? I lost the metal clamp things you put into the cartridge slot for 32X. In fact I just have a big box of wires/adapters and I'm not even sure if I have all the pieces .. I'd really like to put it back together. Too bad.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='dafoomie']There are some excellent games for Sega CD, like the Lunars, Vay, Popful Mail, Keio's Flying Squadron, Shining Force CD, Snatcher, Silpheed, Dark Wizard, Robo Aleste (sequel to Musha), and Sonic CD (my favorite Sonic game all time). Ecco the Dolphin 1+2, and Eternal Champions were all much better on Sega CD. But theres really only one good game on 32x, and it was only released in Europe. Darxide.

Sega CD failed as a system, but it had great games which to this day aren't anywhere else. 32x had about a month and a half lifespan anyway.[/quote]

Wow it took forever for someone to mention Eternal Champions. Me and my friend played that thing to death[/quote]

yep, it was a damn cool game with the most fatalities ever in a game.
 
[quote name='the_gloaming']Whoa, killer! I just found two more of my Sega CD games .. Star Wars Rebel Assault, and Midnight Raiders. I don't even remember playing Midnight Raiders. I think someone gave me both of these.[/quote]

Midnight Raiders looks alot like Tomcat Alley except you have a helicopter gunship (AH-64 Apache?) and it's Air-to-Ground against tanks. Looked good to me. Don't expect to be wow'd by Rebel Assault though.

[quote name='the_gloaming']Too bad I can't hook the thing up. You think any stores sell wires/pieces for the Sega CD, or even the 32X? I lost the metal clamp things you put into the cartridge slot for 32X. In fact I just have a big box of wires/adapters and I'm not even sure if I have all the pieces .. I'd really like to put it back together. Too bad.[/quote]

http://www.sega-parts.com/products/index.html should help you find what you are looking for. I could be wrong but the metal clamp RF shields are only important if you are using the Gen 1 console. This is only what I've heard/read, and for what it's worth, I have put several hours on my 32X and Gen 2 console without RF shields without any adverse effects. YMMV though.

-Brian P
 
No mention of Supreme Warrior? Or did I miss it?

I had the CD/32X version of Supreme Warrior (I think it was originally just CD). Cheesy as all hell, but I played it to completion, and had fun doing it.

Maybe my enjoyment of this game belongs in the Confessions thread...
 
[quote name='Scorch']One game owned for Sega CD.

One.

and I'm gong to take a picture of it.

snatcher.jpg

snatchercd.jpg
[/quote]

I was wondering why someone had not mentioned snatcher yet.

I have about 30 or so sega cd games...btw spiderman isnt bad either on there if someone had not already mentioned it.

At one point I owned almost all good sega cd games..but sold them :(. but they are only a fraction of the price that i sold them for now...if i ever think about picking them up.

I was we would have gotten the psx or saturn usa release of snatcher :(.

I also picked up bladerunner for 3.88 or whatever during the blackfriday sale at walmart...I need to go back to snatcher soon :).
 
working design games is the only reason why i still own my Sega CD.

Working design will always rules. dispite there spaz games. :roll:
 
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