Smashing Pumpkins - Teargarden By Kaleidyscope (New Album - 44 Songs - FREE)

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Anyone else kind of sort of maybe looking forward to this thing? Smashing Pumpkins used to be one of my favorite bands so I'll be paying attention to this (despite the fact that I hated Zeitgeist - but I did like the American Gothic EP).

The first song in the 44 track album was released last week and it is really pretty good - it's called "A Song For A Son" and you can get it all over the place.

Anyone?
 
I didn't realize they already started releasing their new songs. I like their music (mostly the stuff before Ava Adore), and I'm interested to see how this album turns out.

Late EDIT: I also enjoyed Zeitgeist
 
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Hmm, I likes it. I remember them from their first release, then sort of lost interest in their follow up albums. Siamese Twin is one of the better albums of teh 90s though.
 
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Yup. I'm also liking the second song. If they can keep this up over all 44(!) tracks it will be one fantastic album. I actually think releasing the music this way is a great idea - there will be less filler (in theory) because every song can be worked on until it is ready instead of having to meet some arbitrary deadline to release an album of 12 songs or whatever. There are so many bands out there that would have AMAZING albums if you just took the best songs from their first 3 albums or whatever without all the filler.
 
I didn't like Zeitgeist either, but I actually didn't dislike Ava Adore or Machina. But 1979 is still one of my favorite songs of all time, and Siamese Dream was one of my favorite albums too. Guess I'll check this one out.
 
man i gave up on them so long ago. used to love their music and i still like their older stuff but it sucks that most of the original members are either dead or gone from the group. i always felt they went down because corrigan spent so much time with other peoples albums first and that their stuff suffered that way. i could be wrong but there was that point where he was doing alot of work for other groups/singers.

damn music in the 90s was so good. 1979 ( or maybe it was 1969) that video was the shit.aw man the memmories when mtv played videos.
 
Without Jimmy it's not the same band. He's one of the few percussionists that really make or break a band, the man's a living breathing drum machine. I was obsessed w/ SP back in the 90's and in the years after the breakup, and have endless concerts and bootlegs, and even enjoyed Zeitgeist. But without Jimmy the songs don't have nearly as much of a full sound. Billy should just call it something else and still play SP songs.

Not hating the new, post-Jimmy tracks, but not really enjoying them either.
 
Jimmy Chamberlain is great and I do think he is one of those rare drummers who has a unique sound and cannot be replaced. Funny thing is that the last SP album that I loved was Adore when he was kicked out of the band. Machina and Machina II were good but I didn't care for Zeitgeist.
 
I love Adore a lot, too. But at least on that album the percussion remained interesting and an important drive in the songs. Listen to the drums on 'Widow Wake My Mind' and tell me they don't sound like a fucking freshman year highschool garage band. I'm hoping that in 44 songs they manage to build on what made SP so good to begin with. 90% of it was Billy's songwriting but his ego has hit a new level of artistic nonsense.

Not to mention... if they're continuing under the SP name, I don't see how they can play most of the old songs with that 19 year old kid playing drums. Listen to a song like United States or The Ever-Lasting Gaze and tell me that kid could do it justice.

Zeitgeist had a few hidden gems on it. The 'bonus' tracks in particular were quite good once you piece them into the album the way they should have been.

If you're fond of live SP (IE never commercially released, fan-made concerts from over 10 years ago), Javery, we should talk, I have quite a collection.
 
was the original drummer the one who did the drums in that one song. i forget the name but the video was the odd old b/w number where they go to the moon. damn that song is amazing moslty because of the drums.
 
I'm really wondering how their new drummer is going to hold up live myself. A good portion of there shows are them just jamming and i'd hate for them to lose that because he couldn't handle it. He has big shoes to fill but I have faith that he wouldn't have been picked if he couldn't do it.

The new songs are cool but i'm hoping there are going to be at least a couple of heavier rocks songs on the album.
 
[quote name='johnnypark']I love Adore a lot, too. But at least on that album the percussion remained interesting and an important drive in the songs. Listen to the drums on 'Widow Wake My Mind' and tell me they don't sound like a fucking freshman year highschool garage band. I'm hoping that in 44 songs they manage to build on what made SP so good to begin with. 90% of it was Billy's songwriting but his ego has hit a new level of artistic nonsense.

Not to mention... if they're continuing under the SP name, I don't see how they can play most of the old songs with that 19 year old kid playing drums. Listen to a song like United States or The Ever-Lasting Gaze and tell me that kid could do it justice.

Zeitgeist had a few hidden gems on it. The 'bonus' tracks in particular were quite good once you piece them into the album the way they should have been.

If you're fond of live SP (IE never commercially released, fan-made concerts from over 10 years ago), Javery, we should talk, I have quite a collection.[/QUOTE]

To me the best part about SP was the layered guitar work and the intense drumming interspersed with very melodic/airy sections of song. This is why I didn't care for Zeitgeist - it was mostly all heavy. This new work is interesting but different from what I'd consider SP. I think ultimately the break-up and layoff killed the band. It's never as good the second time around. If his solo albums and Zwan were all released as SP (so as if to appear like they've been continually active) I think people would have more of an open mind towards the new stuff.

If you are referring to the "American Gothic EP" as the bonus Zeitgeist tracks then I agree - those 4 songs are GREAT. I'm not sure how I feel about live SP though. I always thought of them more as a studio band - Corgan doesn't have the greatest voice live but there are some old acoustic recordings where he sounded great so I don't know. Either way I'm only interested in soundboard recordings - I don't have the patience for audience stuff no matter how good it may be. SP used to be one of my favorite bands but I haven't been into them lately which is unlike Pearl Jam, Nirvana and some other bands of that era that I continue to love to this day. It's probably that I think Corgan is a douche like how I can barely stand Metallica anymore because Lars is such a fucking tool.
 
Sorry, but I'm not liking any of the new songs. Zeitgeist was OK, but so far this album isn't so much. What happened to all the Infinite Sadness?
 
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