So I got to attend a town hall meeting with Bill Clinton tonight...

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Bill Clinton came to Drexel University to talk about a growing problem for Americans: no, not Dubya (though a good guess). Obesity. Apparently, from what I hear, anyone could initially attend. I guess they caught wind that a lot of people wanted to go when we all found out Clinton was coming. So they sent an email out instead saying "reserved seating will be allocated to those who respond first". Since my drexel mail is automatically forwarded to my work email, I replied in 2 minutes. Apparently, they got quickly overwhelmed with responses, but mine was accepted since it was one of the first. :cool:

I get an email today saying to show up at hour and a half early due to security. So I did. What a joke that was. I enter the building, and see two tables in front of the lecture room: one for last names A-K, one for L-Z (or something like that). I go up, show my student ID, they give me a ticket, and I'm in my seat 1 minute later. No security guards questioned me, patted me down, ran a wand over me, or made me walk through a metal detector. If the Secret Service ever reads this FIX YOUR fuckING SECURITY!!! Defense contractor security is tighter than a meeting with the FORMER PRESIDENT. Reminds me of when I when to see the liberty bell over the summer. I'm waiting in line to go through the metal detector, and see a sign saying "Pocket Knives are NOT allowed". Crap. Trying to figure out what to do since my car was blocks away, I take my knife off my keychain and somehow stuff it in my wallet. I dump my wallet in the bowl, it goes through the x-ray machine, I walk through the metal detector door, and pick up my wallet. Or the time I went to Andrews Air Force Base for a wedding. I go up to the gate, give them my name, and they just push me through. No searches or anything. My friend behind me had Navy sticker on his back windshield because he was in the Navy 1 year prior. They just waved him through, didn't ask his name or anything.

Okay, now the lecture. Pretty boring first half until Clinton came. He cracked a joke about Hillary making him exercise, but bombed on his second joke about Villanova not playing basketball this weekend because Philly was an obese city. DIdn't get it, but that's okay. Listening to him for an hour reminded me of a time far away when a president was capable of making coherent, thought-provoking statements. Where have those times gone? He talked about problems with urban areas and new urban planning not being friendly to exercise. For example, new developments no longer include sidewalks. Garden areas and parks that are being converted to neighborhoods and urban areas do not include any sort of exercise areas. He made a lot of good points about government responsibility and individual responsibility.

Some people got to go up and ask questions (that sounded like they were already screened or something). However, one guy (with long hair :lol: ) got up and asked something like "If we had unlimited funds to tackle (something about obesity), such as funding for one year of war in Iraq....":) . Clinton didn't take the bait though - he addressed his question on obesity without mentioning Iraq or Dubya.

When he was done, a lot of people rushed up to shake his hand, including me. But there were too many damn people, and he had to jet out since it was already almost 7:30pm. As he was leaving, two girls next to me yelled out "We love you!". :lol:

Well, all in all I'm glad I went. Clinton is starting to look old and weaker, maybe from his heart attack yet. So who knows how long his health will last. Heck, even if Dubya had an event like this, I'd still go. It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. But unless I turn in a republican regististration card, sign over my soul on a form, and brainwash myself before they screen me, I'll never get in one of those.

If I can think of anything else that happened, I'll let you know. I wanted to tell Clinton "if Dubya can break the 4th ammendment, you should be able to break the 22nd ammendment!" if I got close enough to shake his hand. 10 more feet and I would've had the chance. Oh well. Maybe next time. :D
 
That's awesome. Any oppurtunity to hear an ex-president speak, even if you didn't/don't like him, is a golden oppurtunity that no one should miss. President Bush came to Auburn when I was a either a Junior or Senior to campaign for Bob Riley and Mike Rogers. It was just really cool seeing the electricity in the air because the president was going to be there. Really cool stuff.

I'm jealous that you go to go! Congrats!
 
Why this is in the Vs. Forum is beyond me, but I guess you just coudn't help yourself, being so full of emotion after meeting your idol, and all.
 
Yeah, I should've posted this in the other forum, but oh well. The people on this forum would probably appreciate it more anyway since it's not a mindless OTT or something about p0rn that the lifestyle forum tends to love.

Sorry PAD, didn't get one of those. But he told me that your dad got one last week.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Why this is in the Vs. Forum is beyond me, but I guess you just coudn't help yourself, being so full of emotion after meeting your idol, and all.[/QUOTE]

It's in the VS forum because of posts like these, because the thread will almost invariably break down into the same silly back-and-forth shit.
 
I saw him when he was in office.

My kids and I were at the Field Museum in Chicago for the unveiling of Dinosaur Sue.
He stopped in after some conference.

Secret Service came thru about an hour before he did, and told everyone, that if the were staying, they stayed till he was gone. They did a quick sweep with wands of the closest people.

We all got to shake his hand. (Didn't care for him, but he was the pres.)
He was very polite, and said a word or two to everyone there.
 
[quote name='csidegamer']I saw him when he was in office.

My kids and I were at the Field Museum in Chicago for the unveiling of Dinosaur Sue.
He stopped in after some conference.

Secret Service came thru about an hour before he did, and told everyone, that if the were staying, they stayed till he was gone. They did a quick sweep with wands of the closest people.

We all got to shake his hand. (Didn't care for him, but he was the pres.)
He was very polite, and said a word or two to everyone there.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they wouldn't let anyone leave after the lecture was over and Clinton was shaking hands. People were bitching "why won't they let us leave!" I had to tell them that the room probably had to be secured until the president was gone. Dumbasses.

BTW - dinosaur bones were placed here to test our faith. :lol:
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']Yeah, I should've posted this in the other forum, but oh well. The people on this forum would probably appreciate it more anyway since it's not a mindless OTT or something about p0rn that the lifestyle forum tends to love.

Sorry PAD, didn't get one of those. But he told me that your dad got one last week.[/QUOTE]

I didn't realize Bill liked men.

We know he likes raping women though.
 
I'm gonna put out a wild guess that PAD mentioned something having to do with Clinton and women, possibly rape or fondling. Did I get it right?
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']PAD's just off his meds again.[/QUOTE]

I realize it's imperitive you believe that as opposed to acknowledging your hero is a rapist.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']So, did he give you a facial?[/QUOTE]

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Almost a running tradition while in office, isn't it?

Again, I'm so pleased with you obsession with one man's cumshot, seeing as how you're invariably incapable of bitching about Clinton's policies. It's regrettable the economy was in such bad shape for Bush to inherit. I'm sure we'd all be balls deep in the residuals of trickle-down economics if it weren't for Clinton's policies. :rofl:
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']I realize it's imperitive you believe that as opposed to acknowledging your hero is a rapist.[/QUOTE]

when your hero was a crappy actor who worked with apes that had more talent, I can see why you lash out. Lets not forget the thousands of people who are dead because he didnt feel like dealing with aids or he "forgot" to
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']I realize it's imperitive you believe that as opposed to acknowledging your hero is a rapist.[/QUOTE]

Reagan was a Rapist?
 
Wasn't that "Clinto was a rapist" bullshit in some book that came out a while back, and no one with a right mind put any stock in it?
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']I realize it's imperitive you believe that as opposed to acknowledging your hero is a rapist.[/quote]


Jealous?
 
I never heard of PAD's allegations, and just attributed it to his shipment of Ritalin from Canada not arriving yet.
 
[quote name='evanft']Wasn't that "Clinto was a rapist" bullshit in some book that came out a while back, and no one with a right mind put any stock in it?[/QUOTE]


Well yeah, but this is PAD we are talking about here.
 
Clintons been accused of multiple rapes. He's even accused of raping hillary, with one person saying that bill said "I'm going to go rape my wife now" (or something like that), and someone else saying that after that night she saw hillary in tears, and their hotel room messed up like their had been a fight.
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']Who's doing the accussing and who's doing the reporting?[/quote]

Ed Klein is doing the accusing, the other of the truth about hillary. I guess he also supposedly impregnated her with chelsea on this occasion. But Sean hannity even thought he was full of it. That's pretty bad.

ED KLEIN, AUTHOR, "THE TRUTH ABOUT HILLARY": Great to be here, Sean.
HANNITY: You are the former editor-in-chief of New York Times (search) magazine.
KLEIN: That's right.
HANNITY: Twelve years. You are the former foreign editor of Newsweek (search) for nine years. Hardly a member of my vast right wing conspiracy. This book has come under tremendous fire.
KLEIN: Yes. The Clinton campaign trying to undermine people's credibility is something to watch when it's happening to somebody else. But when it's happening to you, it's kind of interesting to see that they turn the story away from Hillary and make me the story. So they're trying to undermine my credibility.
HANNITY: Is it that, or is it that the issues that you raise in the book — you raise issues of her sexuality, you raise issues about whether or not Bill raped her, you raise — and conceived Chelsea that way.
KLEIN: Yes.
HANNITY: Isn't that going too personal? Shouldn't that be the type of thing that you put off to the side and you deal with the Clintons on a political issue-by-issue basis?
HANNITY: But in the case of the story of how Chelsea was conceived, you had one source in the book.
KLEIN: Yes.
HANNITY: Is that enough? And it's unnamed.
KLEIN: Well, if the source is a good source. You have to be able to judge, as I can from my 40 years of experience as a journalist, whether a source is credible. And I found that source to be more than credible, and I could double-check everything he said......

KLEIN: Yes. My feeling about that is, if someone is running for president of the United States, their so-called zone of privacy doesn't exist.
HANNITY: It doesn't — even innuendo, even allegation?
KLEIN: No, no. I mean, obviously, you don't want to smear them with unsubstantiated allegations. But what you want to do is examine that person's character, because that person is going to be making critical decisions under a lot of pressure. And you want to make sure you have the right person.
HANNITY: You question her sexuality, though, four times in the book, but she's a married woman with a child. I mean, do you not consider...
KLEIN: I'm not the first person who has questioned her sexuality.
HANNITY: I know. But without — there's no evidence of any such thing. Is it fair? Do you consider her daughter in all of this? Should we consider her daughter?
KLEIN: The rumors of Hillary's sexuality started in Arkansas 30-some- odd years ago.
HANNITY: But is it fair? I don't want to defend Hillary, I have so many political disagreements. Shouldn't we keep it on...
KLEIN: Hillary was asked by Bill Clinton's campaign manager in 1974, Hillary, please come out and deny these rumors. They're hurting Bill Clinton.
HANNITY: When did you stop beating your child?
KLEIN: And she said, I'm not going to do it.
HANNITY: But why does she — why should she have to? If she's a married woman with a child......

HANNITY: I read the book, though. To the extent that, and the number of times you raised the sexuality issue and the number of times you raised the affair with Vince Foster (search) issue, the number of times you raised what Bill is even currently involved with in these issues — you know, the issue that he may have raped her, he said he was going to do it, he may have conceived Chelsea in this night, that resulted in a big fight.
You know, how much evidence do we need? How much would be appropriate before we go to book form with this? What other evidence do you have, in that case for example, beyond the one person?
KLEIN: We have Hillary's own book, "Living History," in which she talks about going down there to Bermuda.
HANNITY: But she doesn't corroborate the story that he raped her.
KLEIN: No, nor do I suggest for a second that — that he was...
HANNITY: You say that he says those words...
KLEIN: Well, I know that he said those words, because I was told by an eyewitness who I think is utterly credible that Bill did say those words.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160357,00.html

If you write a book attacking Hillary Clinton and get your ass handed to you by Sean Hannity, it's time to give up.

Looking at other sources, Klein also seems to deny that he ever accused Hillary of being a lesbian, or that Bill raped her. He also constantly changes between having 1 source or multiple sources.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200506220002
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']So, did he give you a facial?[/quote]\

Funny how when Democrats pick on Bush its a laundry list of stuff, (War on Iraq, yet no connection to 9/11, read a children's book for over 15mins before acting on the greatest threat to the US in 50 years, Passing an act that allows "big brother-like" phone taps) but when Republicans pick on Clinton, its something about him getting laid.

God, I'd rather have a president get his dick sucked everyday, than live in the nightmare of presidents past.
 
Despite your wish to the contrary 9/11 was not the greatest threat to this country in the last 50 years.

If you go back to 1956, 50 years, the greatest threat was and still is the Cuban Missile Crisis.
 
[quote name='usickenme']And thank God a democrat was president then.[/QUOTE]

You're kidding, right? You know why there was a cuba still in existence waiting for a Soviet missile delivery in 1962? Becuase that democrat you worship (who hardly resembles any of today's democrat's, btw) fucked up the entire bay of pigs invasion. Jesus, you kids don't know your history.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']You're kidding, right? You know why there was a cuba still in existence waiting for a Soviet missile delivery in 1962? Becuase that democrat you worship (who hardly resembles any of today's democrat's, btw) fucked up the entire bay of pigs invasion. Jesus, you kids don't know your history.[/quote]

As bad as now?
 
Kennedy was a supply sider who believed in tax cuts, a strong military and trickle down economics.

He was the last good Democratic President.

Today he'd be a conservative Republican if you measured his policy and beliefs with the current Democratic party.

BTW, if Kennedy's predecessor was in office, I think the Cuban Missile Crisis would still have been handled as well if not better. The Republican President just had a little bit of knowledge about the military, I mean he only won World War II in Europoe.
 
Looking at the economy and the deficits after 13 years of supply-side economics, PAD, do you still believe in that horseshit? I suppose you don't mind if our economy is dependent upon the Chinese investing in us, so long as you have a couple extra bucks per year to spend on whatever the fuck it is you think you need.

Seriously, can you look at our annual deficits, our national debt, and tell me that trickle-down econmics policies have done anything good for this nation?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Looking at the economy and the deficits after 13 years of supply-side economics, PAD, do you still believe in that horseshit? I suppose you don't mind if our economy is dependent upon the Chinese investing in us, so long as you have a couple extra bucks per year to spend on whatever the fuck it is you think you need.

Seriously, can you look at our annual deficits, our national debt, and tell me that trickle-down econmics policies have done anything good for this nation?[/QUOTE]

I suppose nationalizing healthcare, providing free food, housing, and transportation for all needy people and creating a socialist utopia would be the remedy ?
 
[quote name='bmulligan']You're kidding, right? You know why there was a cuba still in existence waiting for a Soviet missile delivery in 1962? Becuase that democrat you worship (who hardly resembles any of today's democrat's, btw) fucked up the entire bay of pigs invasion. Jesus, you kids don't know your history.[/QUOTE]

and?... The missle crisis was not about turning Cuba, it was about averting a threat. Which the US did and Cuba hasn't mattered since. The topic wasn't about Bay of Pigs. The fact that you encountered a blurb about it while reading a Wikipedia entry on Cuba doesn't mean it is relevant to this conversation, dipshit.

and for the 100th time it is BecAuse.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']
BTW, if Kennedy's predecessor was in office, I think the Cuban Missile Crisis would still have been handled as well if not better. The Republican President just had a little bit of knowledge about the military, I mean he only won World War II in Europoe.[/QUOTE]


ifs and buts...actually it would have been Nixon who have been in office in lieu of Kennedy. He was the opponet in 1960 and Ike already had 8 years in office.

I think Kennedy support for civil rights would have put him at odds with today's GOP... and many modern Democrats are fisically conservative. So no, he wouldn't be a Repub.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']I suppose nationalizing healthcare, providing free food, housing, and transportation for all needy people and creating a socialist utopia would be the remedy ?[/QUOTE]

We arrived at our current economic state in the absence of all those policies, so in light of that, I must ask: what's your fucking point?
 
[quote name='usickenme']

I think Kennedy support for civil rights would have put him at odds with today's GOP... and many modern Democrats are fisically conservative. So no, he wouldn't be a Repub.[/QUOTE]

Explain to me how Kennedy's views on civil rights are radically different from today's GOP? or even moderate members of the GOP at the time (AKA not Goldwater).

If you look at the historical record, Kennedy's record on civil rights are really spotty. He talked a good game but didn't do much. His policies were reactive and not proactive. He really didn't do much until things like Selma and Birmingham bombings made him react.
 
Well ,obviously it is pure conjecture. Kennedy used federal marshals and army MP's to enforce a federal court order allowing a black student attend the U of Miss something I don't exactly believe today GOP would approve. I mean, they don't want to feds to enforce today civil rights agenda.

He wasn't some great champion and some of his civil rights positions seemed to be more movitated by politics but he was in a very difficult position.

-Kennedy did more than any president before him to have more African Americans appointed to federal government posts. In total, he appointed 40 to senior federal positions including five as federal judges.
-Kennedy effectivly pressured the Wash. Redskins ( the last all white team) to sign blacks.
-Kennedy created the CEEO (Commission on Equal Employment Opportunity)
 
[quote name='mykevermin']We arrived at our current economic state in the absence of all those policies, so in light of that, I must ask: what's your fucking point?[/QUOTE]

Wow, you never heard of the great society program, the war on poverty, the foodstamp program, section 8 housing and urban development program, subsidized mass transportation programs, social security programs, and all the other giveaway programs supposedly enacted to eliminate poverty and strife.

What kind of alternate universe are you living in anyway?
 
[quote name='usickenme']Well ,obviously it is pure conjecture. Kennedy used federal marshals and army MP's to enforce a federal court order allowing a black student attend the U of Miss something I don't exactly believe today GOP would approve. I mean, they don't want to feds to enforce today civil rights agenda.
[/QUOTE]

and?... The missle crisis was not about turning Cuba, it was about averting a threat. Which the US did and Cuba hasn't mattered since. The topic wasn't about Bay of Pigs. The fact that you encountered a blurb about it while reading a Wikipedia entry on Cuba doesn't mean it is relevant to this conversation, dipshit.
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Apparently you forgot that the DEMOCRATS were the ones filabustering civil rights legislation in the sixties. Another lapse in your liberalized public education.

And the bay of pigs insertion was the REASON the soviets had the ability to move missiles to Cuba. Had it not been for the failure of Kennedy to reinforce the soldiers he let die off the coast of Cuba, Castro would not have been dictator, and the soviets would not have had an ally 90 miles off the coast of florida.

It's amazing you are able to form complete sentences at all or even walk and talk at the same time. That miserable excuse for a brain of yours must be taxed beyond it's capacity when you're not playing videogames.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Apparently you forgot that the DEMOCRATS were the ones filabustering civil rights legislation in the sixties.[/QUOTE]

You mean Southern Democrats?

The ones who overwhelmingly jumped ship to the Republican Party?
 
Oh, I forgot to mention that I also got to attend another event with Duncan Hunter (R-CA) and Jim Saxton (R-NJ), two Representatives, two weeks ago at my company. I liked Saxton, thought he was a good speaker.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Apparently you forgot that the DEMOCRATS were the ones filabustering civil rights legislation in the sixties. Another lapse in your liberalized public education.

And the bay of pigs insertion was the REASON the soviets had the ability to move missiles to Cuba. Had it not been for the failure of Kennedy to reinforce the soldiers he let die off the coast of Cuba, Castro would not have been dictator, and the soviets would not have had an ally 90 miles off the coast of florida.

.[/QUOTE]

I don't think anyone was talking about DEMOCRATS. They were talking about Kennedy and (follow along now) today's GOP. Repeating every little bit of trivia crammed in your head doesn't make you smart, you got to know when it use it. A relevant point would be that Kennedy himself voted against the civil rights act of '57

and again we aren't talking the REASONs why the soviet had the ability because that is a fool's chase. Because you forgot:

blaming Chris Columbus for landing there in the first place.
The US government of the early 1900s which granted Cuba it's independence.
Fidel Castro for overthrowing the Cuba in the 50s
The Bolsheviks for creating what would become the USSR and
Albert Einstein for developing the theories that led to nuclear weapons...
 
[quote name='usickenme']
Fidel Castro for overthrowing the Cuba in the 50s
[/quote]

Who was actually a potential ally, or at least a non soviet ally, that we let slip through our hands. Eisenhower didn't exactly read that situation very well.
 
I like how this thread turned into cheery "I got to meet the ex-president!" too a bunch of grumbling dorks crying over yesterdays moldy cheese.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Let's talk about Kennedy sending "advisors" to vietnam.[/QUOTE]


translation: I've been destroyed once again so I'll switch the topic.
 
[quote name='usickenme']translation: I've been destroyed once again so I'll switch the topic.[/QUOTE]


No shat, besides im pretty sure US soldiers were in Vietnam since Truman and Eisenhower.
 
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