So I got to attend a town hall meeting with Bill Clinton tonight...

[quote name='usickenme']Well ,obviously it is pure conjecture. Kennedy used federal marshals and army MP's to enforce a federal court order allowing a black student attend the U of Miss something I don't exactly believe today GOP would approve. I mean, they don't want to feds to enforce today civil rights agenda.

He wasn't some great champion and some of his civil rights positions seemed to be more movitated by politics but he was in a very difficult position.

-Kennedy did more than any president before him to have more African Americans appointed to federal government posts. In total, he appointed 40 to senior federal positions including five as federal judges.
-Kennedy effectivly pressured the Wash. Redskins ( the last all white team) to sign blacks.
-Kennedy created the CEEO (Commission on Equal Employment Opportunity)[/QUOTE]

The Ole Miss point is moot. He sent the troops and there was a riot. The federal troops did absolutely NOTHING to quell the violence going on. Eisenhower sent Federal troops into Little Rock. Is that the same thing? If sending in federal troops into a situation equals champion of civil rights then Eisenhower must be, by your logic, the same as Kennedy. The Civil Rights Act of 1957 was under Eisenhower as well. Is he a great advocate of Civil Rights?

I would love to get to your point on what today's "Civil Rights Agenda" is. You are bein ambiuous, possibly on purpose because you're not sure what you're talking about, and some clarification would be great.

And you've hit it on the head with Kennedy. He did some great things with civil rights, but the majority of his actions were political. Just like how his actions in the Ole Miss case were political because he didn't want to offend Senators Eastland or Stennis. He was a politician, not an activist; it's as simple as that.
 
[quote name='Msut77']No shat, besides im pretty sure US soldiers were in Vietnam since Truman and Eisenhower.[/QUOTE]

No shit, genius. It sure took you a while to google that one, didn't it? I was trying to point out that one of your ideal democrats was, in fact, a war monger who planned invasions and sent troops and cia operatives into sovereign foreign nations. But I forgot that evil, lying, corruption, imperialism, and cronyism started with the bush administration.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']No shit, genius. It sure took you a while to google that one, didn't it?[/QUOTE]

I didnt have to use the internet, mind like a steel trap and all.
 
[quote name='munch']

And you've hit it on the head with Kennedy. He did some great things with civil rights, but the majority of his actions were political. Just like how his actions in the Ole Miss case were political because he didn't want to offend Senators Eastland or Stennis. He was a politician, not an activist; it's as simple as that.[/QUOTE]

well I guess today's GOP won't even be "political" on civil rights. Take Affirmative action for example. Instead of simply following existing laws and procedures, they want it changed. Which is in contrast to what Kennedy did. It is no longer enough "not support" something like AA, you have to actively be against it.
 
[quote name='usickenme']well I guess today's GOP won't even be "political" on civil rights. Take Affirmative action for example. Instead of simply following existing laws and procedures, they want it changed. Which is in contrast to what Kennedy did. It is no longer enough "not support" something like AA, you have to actively be against it.[/QUOTE]

When a program is inherently a racist policy, then yes, you should be against it if you are against racism and all forms of government discrimination that treats us unequally under the law.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']More like a lead balloon.[/QUOTE]

Did you have one as a kid?
It would explain the brain damage.
 
[quote name='usickenme']well I guess today's GOP won't even be "political" on civil rights. Take Affirmative action for example. Instead of simply following existing laws and procedures, they want it changed. Which is in contrast to what Kennedy did. It is no longer enough "not support" something like AA, you have to actively be against it.[/QUOTE]

How is playing to your political base not being political? That's exactly what 'modern' GOP members are doing.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']I realize it's imperitive you believe that as opposed to acknowledging your hero is a rapist.[/quote]
Our country is in 8.3 Trillion dollars of debt. You tell me who's the rapist:roll:
 
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