So who is getting gouged due to Ike... gas at $5.50 a gallon in Michigan...

[quote name='Access_Denied']Well, my town got hit with a TON of rain. (Northern Illinois) And I'm driving home, all of a sudden, I see a puddle. The guy in front of me flies through it. I tried the same. Well, turned out to be 2 feet of water. I guess it didn't look that deep because the guy ahead of me was going faster, so he sort of hydro-planed. Anyway, my car is stuck in the driveway drying out with the battery on charge. It sucks that I have to wait, but at least I don't have to buy gas.[/quote]

Sure hope you didn't hydrolock the engine. If so, you're in for a world of trouble. What kind of car?
 
[quote name='slidecage']where it is now cause there is no way gas will triple.

I said this early this year but will say it again. You will start to see cities shut down if you see gas at 5 to 6 bucks per gallon. A Lot of people will quit their jobs

How many people working for 7 bucks and hour will keep working if gas gets to 6 bucks per gallon

Say it takes 2 gallons of gas each way 24 bucks per day in gas

7 x 8 = 56 bucks and almost half of that will go in taxes = 26 to 30 per day profit

MEANING YOUR WORKING 8 HOURS FOR 2 to 6 bucks per day.

Sorry but it will never happen.[/quote]

You're predicting $4.25 a gallon in 2014?

You believe people making $7/hour will quit working if gas ever reaches $6/gallon.

Assuming you're right, how are these people going to eat?

If they have their shitty jobs at McDonald's for a net 2 to 6 dollars a day, they can still get or find a meal.

Do you expect to see a massive wave of starvation sweeping through ranks of slacker and fry cooks in the near future?
 
Either someone made a horrible mistake in putting up the signs at a gas station near Lucas Oil Stadium or they were really gouging the concert-goers and race fans in town, 'cause that gas station had signs up for $9.15 for Unleaded.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']You're predicting $4.25 a gallon in 2014?

You believe people making $7/hour will quit working if gas ever reaches $6/gallon.

Assuming you're right, how are these people going to eat?

If they have their shitty jobs at McDonald's for a net 2 to 6 dollars a day, they can still get or find a meal.

Do you expect to see a massive wave of starvation sweeping through ranks of slacker and fry cooks in the near future?[/QUOTE]

i expect to see every #$#$# cause semi drives will not work and pay 6 to 7 bucks a gallon.

Store workers wont show cause there is no way in hell the stores can afford to pay more money.

Hell right now both of my parents are on layoff cause the car makers dont need the work

2 week shutdown in aug (they didnt take)
2 week shut down in SEPT (they took)

and have already been told

2 week shut down in Oct ... 1 to 2 weeks in nov and probally entire month of Dec will be shutdown

how will these people eat. Simple they will just live off the government just like all of the illegals are doing now .


If they make 5 bucks a day how do you expect them to pay for rent. power, ect. That is why we would see a major shutdown of the cities.. No one can afford to pay a living wage and no one can afford to pay their bills.

If you see gas at 5 or 6 bucks and stay there for a while (3 months or more) Your going to see this country Go to hell Very quickly and its going to be VERY VERY BAD


Funny thing is how the government is DEMANDING the car companies increase the MPG. HEY BUSH YOu can make a car get 50 MPG but the Normal person cant afford to run out tomorrow and buy a 15,000 buck car. They cant even make their house payments but they expect people to run out and buy 15000 cars
 
[quote name='slidecage']i expect to see every #$#$# cause semi drives will not work and pay 6 to 7 bucks a gallon.

Store workers wont show cause there is no way in hell the stores can afford to pay more money.

Hell right now both of my parents are on layoff cause the car makers dont need the work

2 week shutdown in aug (they didnt take)
2 week shut down in SEPT (they took)

and have already been told

2 week shut down in Oct ... 1 to 2 weeks in nov and probally entire month of Dec will be shutdown

how will these people eat. Simple they will just live off the government just like all of the illegals are doing now .


If they make 5 bucks a day how do you expect them to pay for rent. power, ect. That is why we would see a major shutdown of the cities.. No one can afford to pay a living wage and no one can afford to pay their bills.

If you see gas at 5 or 6 bucks and stay there for a while (3 months or more) Your going to see this country Go to hell Very quickly and its going to be VERY VERY BAD[/quote]

:lol:

Let's try that first sentence again. Are you suggesting truck drivers will stop driving cargo if fuel reaches $6 or 7/gallon?
 
hurricane protection in a way. Because their policies are preventing us from drilling in other areas around our borders. Ie in alaska. We might not be gauged as bad if we had stuff in other oil filled regions. There is plenty up there apparently. We just can't drill for it. They are trying to save some koala bear or something up there from extinction (which is going to happen anyway because the polar regions are thawing at a record rate displacing the animals anyhow.) They get their gas on our tax bill so they were not anxious to piss off some peta people. oh well. We need to convert to natural gas usage for our vehicles and that might help. oy vay
 
[quote name='audman']hurricane protection in a way. Because their policies are preventing us from drilling in other areas around our borders. Ie in alaska. We might not be gauged as bad if we had stuff in other oil filled regions. There is plenty up there apparently. We just can't drill for it. They are trying to save some koala bear or something up there from extinction (which is going to happen anyway because the polar regions are thawing at a record rate displacing the animals anyhow.) They get their gas on our tax bill so they were not anxious to piss off some peta people. oh well. We need to convert to natural gas usage for our vehicles and that might help. oy vay[/quote]
God damn you're an idiot. Koala bear? Gah.....:roll:
 
koala bear was sarcasm. They %$$$# about any little creature when millions of people starving and struggling with their livelihoods. All I am saying. Sounds like the Democrats are looking to do another stimulus payment to people but it will probably be too late to help anyone who goes under trying to keep afloat while they bail out the investment giants. all of this s$*# is going to make all of our retirements very challenging if not impossible. Who is really saving money now for retirement. I know I am putting less and less aside because it is all going to either higher taxes in my area, gas and food prices will get hit by the the gas spike too. People we are on our own. Don't expect mccain or obama to make an "change"
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']:lol:

Let's try that first sentence again. Are you suggesting truck drivers will stop driving cargo if fuel reaches $6 or 7/gallon?[/QUOTE]

really everyone.. I think it will first be the truck drivers. Then it will follow down into the other peoples jobs.

Just for the hell of it say 10 bucks a gallon by 2010... Just think how big of a jump food would take
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']It's been just under $3.50 here for the past week.[/quote]


It's been just over $3.50 here for the past week. I filled up in the middle of last week and drove minimally. I'm pretty much good until Tuesday/Wednesday, I reckon.
 
[quote name='sp00ge']Sure hope you didn't hydrolock the engine. If so, you're in for a world of trouble. What kind of car?[/quote]

1993 Nissan Altima. When I try to start it, it just clicks once, then stops. It doesn't turn over at all. I think it's the starter. But my dad says that I should just let it dry out for a few days. Either way, it doesn't matter, because I live 2.5 blocks from school.
 
Any clue why a car might get different MPG...

im getting around 210 miles on 16 gallons *13 MPG* few months before this i was getting like

11.5 MPG same car nothing has changed

wonder if it wasnt the stations pumps that was #$#$# up
 
[quote name='slidecage']Any clue why a car might get different MPG...

im getting around 210 miles on 16 gallons *13 MPG* few months before this i was getting like

11.5 MPG same car nothing has changed

wonder if it wasnt the stations pumps that was #$#$# up[/quote]

Have you changed your oil lately? When oil goes bad, it can cause friction in the cylinders causing less horsepower and the compression ratio to fall. Also, you have to take into account things like running the AC or keeping the windows open. Also, do you always buy the same octane gas? I doubt it's the gas you're buying, but then again, it could be.
 
[quote name='slidecage']really everyone.. I think it will first be the truck drivers. Then it will follow down into the other peoples jobs.

Just for the hell of it say 10 bucks a gallon by 2010... Just think how big of a jump food would take[/quote]

In a few cases, trucking companies will go bankrupt because they can't afford the fuel costs.

For most cases, trucking companies will renegotiate shipping rates as fuel costs go up.

...

The first jobs to collapse will be those with long commutes and low pay. Say, $7/hour and a 50 mile commute. They'll transform into minimum wage and a 10 mile commute.
 
Honestly, we need to move to a new energy source. But making our gas go to $10 a gallon isn't the way to do it. Almost all of our cars are gas powered. If we want to move to, say, electric cars, we need time. I think we need to tap into the 1 trillion gallons of oil off of our shores. Once we have that, phase out new gas powered cars. Now that electric car prices are going down, they will soon be the same price as a new gas car. Then, we'll stop selling NEW gas cars. Let people keep old ones, but only sell electric cars as new. Eventually, all gas cars will be phased out at about the same time we run out of oil. Problem solved.

BTW- The oil companies can't do this much longer. Pretty soon, we're going to have riots. And I don't mean 20 angry hillbillies in Kentucky. I mean thousands of riots across America containing hundreds of people each. People stealing tanker trucks and blowing up gas stations. There's only so much we're going to take.
 
Call me a crack pot conspriacty theorist or whatever but theres no doubt in my mind that there is an alternative power source out there ready to be used by us. Theres just too much money to be made with oil right now.

Kinda like the cure for the common cold....too much money to be made treating it instead of preventing and eradicating.
 
[quote name='Will']Call me a crack pot conspriacty theorist or whatever but theres no doubt in my mind that there is an alternative power source out there ready to be used by us. Theres just too much money to be made with oil right now.

Kinda like the cure for the common cold....too much money to be made treating it instead of preventing and eradicating.[/QUOTE]

No its out there...mysteriously the people that find it have to go into hiding or come up missing..

Actually Water can be used to create power, and spark. Hydrogen powered cars are being built now.
 
$3.49 here.

I think we should return to the days of the wind up cars. Plus do you really need a car that fits 11 people, and has 14 TVs, 9 DVD players and a cooler for beer in the floor?
 
[quote name='Access_Denied']Honestly, we need to move to a new energy source. But making our gas go to $10 a gallon isn't the way to do it. Almost all of our cars are gas powered. If we want to move to, say, electric cars, we need time. I think we need to tap into the 1 trillion gallons of oil off of our shores. Once we have that, phase out new gas powered cars. Now that electric car prices are going down, they will soon be the same price as a new gas car. Then, we'll stop selling NEW gas cars. Let people keep old ones, but only sell electric cars as new. Eventually, all gas cars will be phased out at about the same time we run out of oil. Problem solved.

BTW- The oil companies can't do this much longer. Pretty soon, we're going to have riots. And I don't mean 20 angry hillbillies in Kentucky. I mean thousands of riots across America containing hundreds of people each. People stealing tanker trucks and blowing up gas stations. There's only so much we're going to take.[/quote]

People don't even grasp the problem. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a "drill, baby, drill" crowd.

I was watching CNN today cover gas shortages in Galveston. 4 hour gas lines and everybody is driving a SUV. I can understand driving a SUV during Katrina, but three years later.

People are going to take whatever is available.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']$3.49 here.

I think we should return to the days of the wind up cars. Plus do you really need a car that fits 11 people, and has 14 TVs, 9 DVD players and a cooler for beer in the floor?[/quote]

$4.15-4.29 here.

People need cars that do all that. The TV told them so. It like GPS versus an atlas.
 
[quote name='Will']Call me a crack pot conspriacty theorist or whatever but theres no doubt in my mind that there is an alternative power source out there ready to be used by us. Theres just too much money to be made with oil right now.

Kinda like the cure for the common cold....too much money to be made treating it instead of preventing and eradicating.[/quote]

"I'm telling you, the government has a car that runs on water. They just don't want us to know about, because then we'd use all the water. Then there'd be nothing left to drink but beer. And the government knows, that beer...., will set us free."
 
Actually I watched a program where they talked about having a car run on salt water, and the hardest thing to figure out is how to get the parts to stay together.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']Actually I watched a program where they talked about having a car run on salt water, and the hardest thing to figure out is how to get the parts to stay together.[/quote]

That's easy. Duct tape.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']Actually I watched a program where they talked about having a car run on salt water, and the hardest thing to figure out is how to get the parts to stay together.[/QUOTE]

I believe that has been done as you said but the side effect is chlorine gas not the best idea in the end.

Dr. Kanzius made saltwater burn with radio waves as well I do believe.


[quote name='Access_Denied']"I'm telling you, the government has a car that runs on water. They just don't want us to know about, because then we'd use all the water. Then there'd be nothing left to drink but beer. And the government knows, that beer...., will set us free."[/QUOTE]

Check it:


http://www.h2gen.info/docs/watercar.pdf

http://www.physorg.com/news98556080.html

Search SirHoax on Youtube, or search for plasma sparking water vapor, or steam plasma injector.

French running on a GEET based system:
http://quanthomme.free.fr/pantone.htm


Somewhat transalted:

http://quanthomme.free.fr/pantone/martz/En_geet.htm

http://www.rexresearch.com/pantone/pantone.htm

Water Burns:
http://www.rexresearch.com/puharich/1puhar.htm#4394230

and anew system undergoing testing:
http://jlnlabs.online.fr/mahg/index.htm


Or if you prefer search for Stan Meyers as he had the system down before he died.

Now I will come right out and say I did some research on this, but the interest ended there. Its interesting to read about it, but I have pulled some of these links from other sources and have not even read them. That should get anyone interestd started though.
 
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so far it jumped .10 here to 3.79 and I've seen one go up to 3.99

I coudl have saved 1.10 if I filled up on friday... XD oh well... only 1.10.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']People don't even grasp the problem. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a "drill, baby, drill" crowd.

I was watching CNN today cover gas shortages in Galveston. 4 hour gas lines and everybody is driving a SUV. I can understand driving a SUV during Katrina, but three years later.

People are going to take whatever is available.[/quote]

I would be fine with the whole thing if the money from the oil came back into america instead of the middle eastern countries and the oil cartels. Maybe then we would have an stronger economy as opposed to our governments policy of give away all of our money and our jobs. They are going to put us under. They could have prevented this whole bailout thing a year ago before it would have cost us a cent and now oil is no longer our big problem. I don't know who the hell to vote for because one says no to tax hikes (where will this money for bailouts come from) the other is going to give away everything we have left (health care for everyone and lets raise everyones taxes to pay for it). Oh well at least if the economy crashes the politicians will lose their investments too. Maybe just maybe they can feel the pain that their policies caused so many people and then maybe they will get it right.
 
Back on the east coast now, Gas was way up in Atlanta from when I left for Ca. on the 11th. Was in the $3.70 range was in the $4.15 and up range when I got back on the 15th and my girlfirend said it was around $4.50 the day after the storm.

Back home in Maryland now, the prices are in the $3.65 to $3.80 range for the cheapest depending on area, bout the same as when I left town on the 5th.
 
There is one station in the next town over that is selling basic unleaded for $4.49. Highest iv'e seen around here, cheapest is around $3.86.
 
It was $3.33 here it Tucson yesterday. The other day I was able to fill up at Safeway for $2.23 a gallon. I know an employee there that lets me use his phone number for his rewards, it saved $1.20 a gallon that day.
 
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