Some PSP pre-ordering crap from GameCrazy

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Where do I begin ...?

I guess by using the space key, heh?

The point I was trying to make about Resident Evil is twofold: Nintendo games aren't just "for kids." And second, the RE series' best games are exclusive to the Cube (well, for now...har).... like so many, many other top games as well (there are dozens ... do you need a list)?

Game longevity really wasn't the point. Sorry I muddied the issue... I'm just sick of the Sony fanboy hype over Metal Gear, a good but preachy series, that always comes up as a selling point for the PlayStation ... my God, the E3 media coverage gives it "best game" when it's nothing than a low-quality demo or screen shots.

As far as Mario 64 goes, I believe you' may be wrong on that score. Do the research and I believe you'll find it never was a Player's Choice game, and if it was, only very, very late in the N64 life cylce, perhaps even after the Cube launched.

Again, you're missing the point, and that is the quality of Nintendo's first-party games. I mentioned Mario ... go check and see check the average ratings on the Zelda series (a quick look at www.gamerankings.com will prove me right). as another example... Second to none, year in, year out. You can't mass-produce that kind of quality.

Bottom line: Nintendo holds the rights to the best games made on any console system. If you want quantity, buy Sony PSP, PlayStation or the rest. If you care about great games and lasting fun, go Nintendo.
 
[quote name='bottlenut']:shock: :shock: :shock:
Where do I begin ...?

I guess by using the space key, heh?

The point I was trying to make about Resident Evil is twofold: Nintendo games aren't just "for kids." And second, the RE series' best games are exclusive to the Cube (well, for now...har).... like so many, many other top games as well (there are dozens ... do you need a list)?

Game longevity really wasn't the point. Sorry I muddied the issue... I'm just sick of the Sony fanboy hype over Metal Gear, a good but preachy series, that always comes up as a selling point for the PlayStation ... my God, the E3 media coverage gives it "best game" when it's nothing than a low-quality demo or screen shots.

As far as Mario 64 goes, I believe you' may be wrong on that score. Do the research and I believe you'll find it never was a Player's Choice game, and if it was, only very, very late in the N64 life cylce, perhaps even after the Cube launched.

Again, you're missing the point, and that is the quality of Nintendo's first-party games. I mentioned Mario ... go check and see check the average ratings on the Zelda series (a quick look at www.gamerankings.com will prove me right). as another example... Second to none, year in, year out. You can't mass-produce that kind of quality.

Bottom line: Nintendo holds the rights to the best games made on any console system. If you want quantity, buy Sony PSP, PlayStation or the rest. If you care about great games and lasting fun, go Nintendo.[/quote]

Not to get drawn too far into a side argument but Mario 64 was a player's choice:

here's an IGN article mentioning it

But that's not really the issue at hand here.

Sure Nintendo puts a lot of quality into their games. I do not dispute that fact. Personally, I don't care for the majority of their games anymore. I tried playing Zelda: Wind Waker and I got bored with it very quickly. Platformers are just not my type of game, and that's the majority of Nintendo's titles. The old Zelda's used to be more of an adventure game but now the newest one felt like more of a platformer.

I do happen to enjoy one of their games in particular and that's Mario Kart Double Dash. One problem with it though is that they just keep rereleasing the same old thing over and over. Mario PArty 6 now? I really enjoyed 4 and still own it but its getting a little overdone. Mario Golf? Fun but also overdone.

Sure they may have high scores but that's because its the same games over and over again. The thing is, this happens with every system. The reason I say this is cause that means that all you can really do is pick which type of game you like best. I'm not a fan of platformers and since I feel that most Nintendo's games are platformers, I'm passing on the DS until it gets some games that I enjoy more. I've owned every Nintendo system with the exception of the Virtual Boy, there's no reason why the DS would be different.

The PSP on the other hand has no less than 5 launch titles that I'm interested in. That means that I'll have plenty to choose from when I get my system.
 
Alright bottlenut for some reason your now what 35 posts strong and flexing your muscles but hey thats ok at least you have balls :D

ALRIGHT, I'm going to quote you alot without the quote button cause your contradicting yourself quite a bit. First off, you said that you never said that the DS Launch was strong or weak on games, than you say it was lean though not for long. I'm just wondering if we are from the same world here, maybe your in Japan where they have what 14 or 16 games? They launched with 6 games and they now have 10. Again, not for long? I'm just curious how you figure that out.

to insert new paragraph, ha sorry had to poke fun!

Now lets discuss quality over quanity Nintendo's BIG THING right!?!? They are consistenly the most innovative, well thought out and long lasting, is what you said verbatim. I'm assuming that the same applies with DS b/c they are nintendo so lets examine this with your good friendly site that you like to reference. www.gamerankings.com

Asphalt: Urban GT: Personally i thought the game was garbage and handled like a fat woman with MS. OVERAL 62.7% OUCH thats inconsitent

Feeling the Magic: I like this game, beat it in one day 100% but hey OVERALL 77.1% that one you can have it was good. BUT long lasting negative ghost rider the flight pattern is not clear.

MR. Driller Drill spirits: I think i played this years ago, oh yeah i did. OVERALL 71.7%

Ridge Racer Ds: Absolute garbage also. Made you cry, with its cheap steering wheel gimmick that sucked OVERALL 64.2%

Spiderman 2: one word: junk OVERALL 65.7%

Sprung: This right here should prove the point that Nintendo doesn't always have the well thought out blah blah OVERALL 50.2% wheres the quality control Big N

SM 64X4: Listen great game 15 years ago, without an analog stick i found it to be boring and annoying and not worth $150. OVERALL 87.3%

Urbz: blah EA Overall 69.8%

Tiger '05: lame Overall 64.8%

Zoo Keeper: Bejeweled, wait its called zoo keeper. OVERALL 73.5%

I agree that Nintendo (made by them also called 1st party) are usually imaginitive and great. SM 64 was great, sorry though buddy Not anymore. The game couldn't hold a candle to Jak III and Rachet and clank Up your aresenal, even if it had the legs to stand on. It doesn't anymore you know why? ITS fuckING 15 YEARS OLD! Which in human years = 900 years old. "Seen cubes resident evil Exclusive" Read the tabloids tough guy, that deal is long over. RE4 will be out in Oct for PS2. You know why it took so long to release, because Capcom knew they had made a mistake and abandoned a HUGE (71 million to be exact) market when they left Sony, and went cube. They dragged out the release of RE4 so that they could release it on a system with a bigger install base in the same year so people still cared. Dont get me wrong i beat the game twice now, amazing game.

Lets address your Assinine MGS comment. MGS to this day is one of the most influential games in the market. People flock to Hideo Kojima asking him how did he come up with this and this idea. Heres a fun fact for you. Did you know that Shigeuro Miyamoto (your savior) is extremely good friends with Hideo? How do you think MGS Twin Snakes happened? MGS 3 was amazing 93.4% to be exact. Mario Sunshine 92.4% OUCH, sorry just using your little tool. www.gamerankings.com.

Sony's launch. A fireworks game, you pick out Fantavision. Of all the GOOD games it launched with you pick out 1 really just OK one it wasnt even terrible 72% to be exact, HEY it ranks up there with the DS games!

I own a PSP what do you want to know Battery life? With Lumines almost 6 hours full volume full brightness. With Ridge Racer (which is amazing) 4 hours. Buttons are fine Load times aren't that great but its still early, they have to learn the system and how to load things. Thats quite alright. Keep in mind that i'm holding onto the future of handheld games. Again i say that the DS was a gimmick to go to the market because they weren't ready for the launch of there TRULY next gen handheld. PSP is next gen DS is 15 year old gen. Lets throw a Palm like stylus in there and BOOM we got a gimmicky hand held. hooray!

No games of there own (refering to sony) You jack ass they own have the of game houses that does those games. And they were awesome games, all of them brought something new to the table. I think you need to examine if were sony fanboys or if you've been brainwashed by the Big N because you can't afford a PS2 or xbox?

Hopefully you didn't come to CAG thinking we were all dumb and not a smart community. We're all extremely educated in video games and we will research everything you say, were nerds, gamers, and we weed out Bullshit alot. Good luck here, IMO your sorta off to a bad start, your contradicting yourself, saying things without actually looking at facts.

PS MGS 3 was almost 25 hours long
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue'][quote name='bottlenut']... ahh, spoke like a true Sony fanboy. I stand corrected: No decent games of its own. ... but never fear: plenty of buyers still lined up. You'll see Sony pull off the same self-imposed "shortage" for the PSP this go-round by sending paltry amounts to ever-hungry retailers, all the while claiming there's a shortage on this or that essential PSP part. Just more evidence of how they manipulate their loyal base. ... Absurd. :twisted:[/quote]

So your saying that Sony will purposely cause a shortage, to cost themselves sales? Oh and by the way, was this the same marketing strategy that Nintendo adopted when the DS launched (oh and the SP)? I only ask cause I seem to remember the DS going for more than the MSRP right before Christmas.[/quote]

You're showing your marketing naivete, my friend.

Sony doesn't lose sales by causing a phony shortage (that the public perceives as real). They take but a momentary hit, but then generate big demand. Demand fuels sales and fattens profits. This isn't rocket science.

Sony does manipulate its loyal customers, and I'm certain it's not alone. But Sony does it better than the rest.

As I mentioned, take a look at the PS2 itself. It's basically a glorified PlayStation One with prettier graphics. Even the controller is a virtual clone of the old, and like the PS1, it comes with but two controller plug-ins. For a next-generation console, that's pathetic.

Yes, you can go out and purchase an add-on to run four controllers through it, but it'll cost you. Just like everything else with that console.

Want a memory card? ... buy a new one (the old won't work). Want to play the DVD player (a cheap one at that), dig for your wallet. A hard drive? Keep digging.

Sony has mastered the art of nickel-diming its customer base. Sadly, many of their own customers can't even see it. Sony promised "revolution," it delivered a natural evolution. Nothing more.

In the process, they didn't even deliver on one of their fundamental tenets: to make the thing backward compatible. Oops, turns out it wouldn't run a lot of the older games that made the PS1 the genuinely decent console that it was. Just another broken promise.

Sony has marketing muscle, plenty of money and a big name. It makes great, great TV sets; its history as a game developer is hit-miss, at best. Its dependent on third-party developers to carry the water.

Oh, and don't expect its tactics to change just because it's coming out with a pretty new piece of whiz-bang hardware. Keep your checkbook handy. You'll need it (and I'm not just talking for the games).

:twisted:
 
DID nintendo's memory cards from N64 work on the gamecube shit i wasted alot of money. Dude you fuckING SUCK at debate you are getting trampled on.

Want to watch DVDS with the Nintendo Gamecube Better go get your wallet and buy the Panasonic Q http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=52&products_id=1575&
$489.99

I think i'll stick to the $25 dvd remote for ps2.

Need to play with 4 players go buy a mulitap. $34. Since almost 2 out of every 3 households has a PS2 you don't need controllers have your friends bring them

Need to play four players on gamecube $25 a controller. People could still bring over there own but who knows. That fact is up in the air.

Dunno bout everyone else it ran all the games i wanted it to fine with backwards compatibility.

Its just a PS1? The controllers didn't change because if it ain't broke don't fix it. Did you notice how alot of people don't play certain games on Cube (when they launch on multiplatform) because the CUBE controller SUCKS ass for anything but nintendo only games?

God dammit bottlenuts now your just being stupid, come on man debate with smarts not retardness :dunce:
 
[quote name='Maynard']Alright bottlenut for some reason your now what 35 posts strong and flexing your muscles but hey thats ok at least you have balls :D

ALRIGHT, I'm going to quote you alot without the quote button cause your contradicting yourself quite a bit. First off, you said that you never said that the DS Launch was strong or weak on games, than you say it was lean though not for long. I'm just wondering if we are from the same world here, maybe your in Japan where they have what 14 or 16 games? They launched with 6 games and they now have 10. Again, not for long? I'm just curious how you figure that out.

to insert new paragraph, ha sorry had to poke fun!

Now lets discuss quality over quanity Nintendo's BIG THING right!?!? They are consistenly the most innovative, well thought out and long lasting, is what you said verbatim. I'm assuming that the same applies with DS b/c they are nintendo so lets examine this with your good friendly site that you like to reference. www.gamerankings.com

Asphalt: Urban GT: Personally i thought the game was garbage and handled like a fat woman with MS. OVERAL 62.7% OUCH thats inconsitent

Feeling the Magic: I like this game, beat it in one day 100% but hey OVERALL 77.1% that one you can have it was good. BUT long lasting negative ghost rider the flight pattern is not clear.

MR. Driller Drill spirits: I think i played this years ago, oh yeah i did. OVERALL 71.7%

Ridge Racer Ds: Absolute garbage also. Made you cry, with its cheap steering wheel gimmick that sucked OVERALL 64.2%

Spiderman 2: one word: junk OVERALL 65.7%

Sprung: This right here should prove the point that Nintendo doesn't always have the well thought out blah blah OVERALL 50.2% wheres the quality control Big N

SM 64X4: Listen great game 15 years ago, without an analog stick i found it to be boring and annoying and not worth $150. OVERALL 87.3%

Urbz: blah EA Overall 69.8%

Tiger '05: lame Overall 64.8%

Zoo Keeper: Bejeweled, wait its called zoo keeper. OVERALL 73.5%

I agree that Nintendo (made by them also called 1st party) are usually imaginitive and great. SM 64 was great, sorry though buddy Not anymore. The game couldn't hold a candle to Jak III and Rachet and clank Up your aresenal, even if it had the legs to stand on. It doesn't anymore you know why? ITS shaq-fuing 15 YEARS OLD! Which in human years = 900 years old. "Seen cubes resident evil Exclusive" Read the tabloids tough guy, that deal is long over. RE4 will be out in Oct for PS2. You know why it took so long to release, because Capcom knew they had made a mistake and abandoned a HUGE (71 million to be exact) market when they left Sony, and went cube. They dragged out the release of RE4 so that they could release it on a system with a bigger install base in the same year so people still cared. Dont get me wrong i beat the game twice now, amazing game.

Lets address your Assinine MGS comment. MGS to this day is one of the most influential games in the market. People flock to Hideo Kojima asking him how did he come up with this and this idea. Heres a fun fact for you. Did you know that Shigeuro Miyamoto (your savior) is extremely good friends with Hideo? How do you think MGS Twin Snakes happened? MGS 3 was amazing 93.4% to be exact. Mario Sunshine 92.4% OUCH, sorry just using your little tool. www.gamerankings.com.

Sony's launch. A fireworks game, you pick out Fantavision. Of all the GOOD games it launched with you pick out 1 really just OK one it wasnt even terrible 72% to be exact, HEY it ranks up there with the DS games!

I own a PSP what do you want to know Battery life? With Lumines almost 6 hours full volume full brightness. With Ridge Racer (which is amazing) 4 hours. Buttons are fine Load times aren't that great but its still early, they have to learn the system and how to load things. Thats quite alright. Keep in mind that i'm holding onto the future of handheld games. Again i say that the DS was a gimmick to go to the market because they weren't ready for the launch of there TRULY next gen handheld. PSP is next gen DS is 15 year old gen. Lets throw a Palm like stylus in there and BOOM we got a gimmicky hand held. hooray!

No games of there own (refering to sony) You jack ass they own have the of game houses that does those games. And they were awesome games, all of them brought something new to the table. I think you need to examine if were sony fanboys or if you've been brainwashed by the Big N because you can't afford a PS2 or xbox?

Hopefully you didn't come to CAG thinking we were all dumb and not a smart community. We're all extremely educated in video games and we will research everything you say, were nerds, gamers, and we weed out Bullshit alot. Good luck here, IMO your sorta off to a bad start, your contradicting yourself, saying things without actually looking at facts.

PS MGS 3 was almost 25 hours long[/quote]


Nice to see I finally have your attention. :)

A lot of my comments (and what you term "contradictions") were in simply trying to respond to flames four and five messages before from those that took off on a tidbit here or there of my original rant, leaving out the thrust of the message entirely.

At least you made some attempt to directly respond to it. Clearly you took some time before landing your barrage.

There are no contradictions, however. Only your perception of them.

When I have some time I'll try to put together a list GameCube-exclusive titles that support my contention. Then again, maybe not. I'm not seeing a particularly receptive audience here ... (is that contradictory also?)

For the record, I really did pack up my Nintendo 64 like the rest of you some shaq-fuing 15 YEARS AGO!!!

I'm also not nearly as poverty-stricken, pig-headed or assinine as you so foolishly suggest.
 
[quote name='Maynard']
Dude nintendo ds launch was absolutely shaq-fuing pathetic. Did you read the news in japan it made fun of how much the launch bombed in japan. Practically no one waiting outside. I dont know about you but i enjoyed PS2 launch. SSX, Dynasty Warriors 2, Nintendo rules on games? I sold my shaq-fuing ds because i could find a shaq-fuing game to play but my GBA games, and on that score nintendo wins? :roll: I have my PSP now and i love it. I let my Nintendo idiot friend fanboy borrow it and he pre ordered it next day. PSP is the future of handhelds, its going to make Nintendo have to rethink their strategy in the handheld market again. Maybe they'll stop flooding the market with BS handheld games I.E Thats So Raven, 900 pokemon games. PSP, IMO, is going to finally make nintendo wake up and realize that there is a market of gamers out there in the handheld section older than shaq-fuing 4 years old who want to play games that aren't geared towards little kids. PSP price is steep, but remember its aiming at a different market. People who aren't cheap, and people who dont buy games like thats so raven. Your only 17 posts old so we'll let this slide but man think before you post. #-o

PS you think its a coincidence that all of DS's games are launching in March when psp launches? :puke:[/quote]

You give Tool fans a bad name, go back to gamefaqs where they live on this kind of fanboy arguing. fuck. The DS is for if you just want games, the PSP is for if you want games/mp3/movies/an empty wallet.

Sorry, had to antagonize someone who takes things way too seriously..
 
GameCrazy is no longer requiring you to buy a bundle to pre-order. They retracted that due to a lot of complaints.

Sony has mastered the art of nickel-diming its customer base. Sadly, many of their own customers can't even see it. Sony promised "revolution," it delivered a natural evolution. Nothing more.

In the process, they didn't even deliver on one of their fundamental tenets: to make the thing backward compatible. Oops, turns out it wouldn't run a lot of the older games that made the PS1 the genuinely decent console that it was. Just another broken promise.
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I have to agree with that. Sony is all about those little add on purchases that send their revenue soaring. Which is pretty natural for most home entertainment markets, but it doesn't mean I have to like it. Thats why I don't own a PS2. I also would like to add to the backwards compatability point that most ps2s won't even read blue bottom or PSOne discs anymore.. thats the DRE.


Manyard, get your head out of your ass and realize that every company are greedy bastards that want your money. It's just that sony has the #1 spot, so they are much more successful at it. They can sell you the $90 1gb memory stick, the extra PSP add on battery, the $50 games (which, by the way, was confirmed in our corporate mail today, the games are going to average $50 retail) and also the $20-30 UMD movies, made ONLY by sony.. Sony is becoming very greedy, just like nintendo in the 80s, and see where it got them? Sony's reign is nearing its end. MS is going to dominate the next generation. Atari-Nintendo-Sony-Microsoft-?
 
[quote name='Maynard']DID nintendo's memory cards from N64 work on the gamecube shit i wasted alot of money. Dude you shaq-fuing SUCK at debate you are getting trampled on.

God dammit bottlenuts now your just being stupid, come on man debate with smarts not retardness :dunce:[/quote]

:twisted:

Heh, pal. Take a chill pill.

You keep telling me I need to get my facts straight. I'd ask you to do the same: the N64 didn't really use memory cards for the most part. A cartridge, remember?! Duh...so I guess one would need to purchase a memory card would that person care to save their game progress.

As far as the gd-this and other assorted personal attacks, you're the one doing the trampling -- on those you don't agree with.

Chill.

:twisted:
 
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