someone relate with me on this one (xenosaga II)

shadylane

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I just finished playing xenosaga 1 and loved the whole damn thing. voice acting especially. i def could put the voices and characters together. and the voices seem so natural and def fit the characters. i started playing xenosaga II and most of all the voices are all screwed up especially momo and kos-mos. wtf happened? tell me it changes back to normal in the third
 
I looked at 2 as an opportunity to get used to the new art style/voice work for 3. Other than that, I didn't care for the battle system and there were some other minor annoyances (such as the "regular" monsters in the final area that were more difficult than the final boss).

Whether I ended up getting used to the changes or not, I thought 3 was the superior game.
 
interesting. now i checked the imdb website and it seems they have the old cast back in for three...can anyone confirm this?
 
[quote name='shadylane']interesting. now i checked the imdb website and it seems they have the old cast back in for three...can anyone confirm this?[/quote]Some chracters are back. Like Shion's voice and Kos-Mos (dont remember who else). Chaos, Momo (i think), and Jin (i think) have the same voices as they did in the second one.
 
I put 18 hours in and I quit, I just couldn't finish it. I'm close to the end so I'm just gonna get it over with. The game was a big let down.
 
I never finished 2, didn't like it for whatever reason. I beat 3 and enjoyed all the character's outfits/voices. And the game was overall the superior game of the 3. 1 was second best, obviously by what I said.
 
I thought momos change in 2 was an upgrade, but hated all the rest.

Regardless, Xenosaga trilogy is (i count it as one single game) my favorite game of all time. Three is also by far the best of the three.
 
I just finished III yesterday, I have a lot to say about it. As others mentioned, the voices are back to good in III.

The problem with II and the beginning of III is the ambiguous story that tries so hard to be massive but does not do it in an easy fashion. If you wish to follow everything in the purposely hidden manner they want you to, you have to look up a lot of information that was left out or put into other games that did not come here.

The story of III, especially from the middle of the game on, really comes together. It leaves things open to quite a bit of interpretation on your own, allowing you to comprehend the story your own way. It is refreshing that every single character in the series has a true motive, it isn't just someone going mad or someone trying to be good. If the series could have done this story in an easier more relatable way throughout as they finally did at the end of III, it would easily be the best and most epic story of any game to date.

Xeno I and Xeno III had two of the best minigames ever made in my opinion.

The bad thing about all of Xenosaga...the battle system. Xeno I had a mediocre system, Xeno II was a little worse, and Xeno III...I didn't even bother with once I realized that every battle could be won with a single attack and you basically had unlimited times to do this. Xeno got caught up in the big numbers game, making enemies that had a few hundred million hitpoints so regular attacks that would do between 400-3000 damage were worthless, only super attacks were worth anything. A good game knows how to balance the number system, so that yes super attacks are more damaging, but regular attacks are also not obsolete and have their place.


So, ultimately the reason why Xeno did not do as good as it should have is that the developers spent their entire focus on storyline, crafting an immensely interesting backdrop and religious allegory, but did not know how to balance this story with comparable gameplay. Weak gameplay, excellent but too complexly shown story, excellent minigames. If the gameplay had been done much different, say in a Shin Megami type battle system, Xenosaga could have trumped Final Fantasy's series.
 
I loved Episode 1 as a movie, but hate it as a game. Fortunately, I have the cutscene dvd. I actually really liked the battle system in Episode 2, even though it makes most battles take way longer than they should. I thought stringing together long combos on aired or downed enemies was a lot of fun. I even took the time to complete the GS path and max out every character's skill points. I haven't finished Episode 3 yet, but I'll probably get to that once I'm back at school in a couple weeks.
 
[quote name='cdietschrun']I never finished 2, didn't like it for whatever reason.[/quote]

Albedo and his under-age-robot-girl fetish. :lol:
 
[quote name='ReaperZER0']If I remember correctly, the 2nd one is the shortest of the 3 too, so just power through it.[/QUOTE]

rly? i beat the first one is 6 hours...(but i skip the cutscenes cause i deleted my save that i was at the end)
 
I know there are alot of occult references. I forget alot of it - I need to pick up and play III to remember.

I'm kind of surprised at the following for this game given the somewhat obscure references.
 
I think it blows that they changed some of the voices and that they had to go and "upgrade" some of the characters. I actually preferred the more anime/cartoony style of xeno 1 than the semi-realistic models in II.
 
[quote name='bigl523']I think it blows that they changed some of the voices and that they had to go and "upgrade" some of the characters. I actually preferred the more anime/cartoony style of xeno 1 than the semi-realistic models in II.[/quote]
Yes, especialy given that Shion and KOS-MOS received the most drastic changes, rendering them almost unregognizable. Everyone else looked roughly the same to me. Seemed like a shameless attempt to increase the "babe" factor and draw in more of the lonely male crowd, which is ironic since those same lonely, nerdy males probably preffered the models from Ep. I.
 
[quote name='bigl523']I think it blows that they changed some of the voices and that they had to go and "upgrade" some of the characters. I actually preferred the more anime/cartoony style of xeno 1 than the semi-realistic models in II.[/quote]
Me too. I would have liked to see the EpII characters as a "concept art" unlockable, it was an interesting idea but I wasn't really happy with how they turned out (Junior especially).

Also - the casino section in EpI was totally awesome, with a semi-decent card battle game to boot. With the exception of one or two moments, the minigames in EpII could not have been lamer.
 
Holy shit, man am I behind. I totally forgot that number 3 had been released. *smacks forhead* There was just way too much stuff coming out at the end of last year that I guess I must have passed over it.

Anybody know where's the cheapest to buy number 3?
 
thats where I go it, in fact I got all 3 games within a couple of weeks of each other when xeno 3 was marked at 16.96 at cc. picked up xeno 1 for 15 at the same time and then a bit later I got xeno 2 from worst buy for 10, so 40 bux for 3 games seemed like a good deal. now i just need to make the time to finish xeno 2 and 3...
 
I really don't have much good to say about the series other than for Xenosaga III!

Xenosaga III is really an incredible game and one of my favorites. It's well-written and the gameplay is so smooth and well-balanced. And the music is pretty good, too!

I tend to tell people to play Xenosaga III and skip past the rest of the series. It's two games' worth of shallow exposition and boring gameplay, and really, isn't worth your time. Even if you *have* followed the series, you'll be confused as hell when starting up Xenosaga III, anyway, and have to read about several years' worth of adventures.
 
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