Sony E3 Press Conference Discussion - Price & Date Revealed!

[quote name='Grave_Addiction']
Name another system that's been priced higher than $400 at launch and has been successful. Please do it.[/QUOTE]

3DO

I win!
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']Name another system that's been priced higher than $400 at launch and has been successful. Please do it.[/quote]
3DO and Neo-Geo AES:lol: j/k
 
[quote name='botticus']Honestly, I would have been surprised before about seeing a price. I don't know why they wouldn't release a date other than wanting to do them at the same time. But now after the $500-$600 bomb, if they come in at $200 max, they would get a serious high off of that.

I need to get up early and pack a lunch and a few cans of pop so I can get in early and get work taken care of so I can have a leisurely lunch attempting to listen to their conference.

I'm glad the 360 doesn't include HD DVD support (since now I know that will be my second console thanks to Sony); I'm not going for HD DVD or Blu Ray, but the smartest idea would be getting a standalone combo (BD and HD) player, which will have to exist at some point. No way I'm spending hundreds of dollars on a format that has a chance of dying out very quickly.[/quote]

I doubt you'll see a combo version. They actually use different lasers. Plus the companies involved would have nothing to gain by producing a combination. Just my opinion.
 
he cheaper version:
- No built-in Wi-fi
- No HDMI port
- No Memory Stick slot
- No SD card slot
- No Compact Flash slot
- 20GB hard drive

Where is this information from?
 
[quote name='gizmogc']...at the 360's current price. But I'd gladly pay that for a format that has a better chance at being around 2 years down the road.[/QUOTE]

I guess we'll see which one sticks around (or both) but even with a $100 price drop, the games still don't take advantage of it, which makes all the difference.
And the $500 ps3 is the way to go, so it's still equal.
 
I've gotta wonder what on earth they were thinking with that controller. You've got to do it all the way or no way. The 3 axis motion sensitivty is pretty crude, it won't offer the fine touch of the Wii, and then taking out the rumble functions, it will be viewed as a step backward by the general consumer. Not different enough to be new, not enough the same to be tried-and-true.

Setting it up in the Dual Shock design is just asking developers to ignore that it has motion sensing capabilites as well. With the Wii you've got to do something with that controller. This? It would be chepaer and easier to just make a normal game--especially when you're looking at highly expensive development costs in the first place.

This'll be an interesting console war. Will the mindless masses with endless back accounts make this a success?
 
Since the other thread seems dead: Where can I watch the Sony press conference? Nobody seems to have it up for viewing. I'd like to watch it tonight if it's possible.
 
Not only is the controller the retarded cousin of the Wiimote, they didn't even freaking change the design from the original Dual Shock!! absurd!
 
[quote name='jer7583']Not only is the controller the retarded cousin of the Wiimote, they didn't even freaking change the design from the original Dual Shock!! absurd![/QUOTE]
Why should they change it? Dualshock is easily up there in one of the best controllers ever...why fix something that isnt broken?
 
[quote name='RelentlessRolento']actually no. Tommorow and the next day is when you'll get alot of PSP meat.[/QUOTE]

Why? Nintendo does 'dual' Console/Handheld confrences...why not Sony? Too much greatness in 2 hours? :lol:
 
[quote name='Quillion']I doubt you'll see a combo version. They actually use different lasers. Plus the companies involved would have nothing to gain by producing a combination. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Well, you saw VHS/DVD players, so I would envision it as two drives. Certainly it was different as that was a transition between formats, and this is two simultaneous ones, but I'm sure there are plenty of electronics companies that don't care which format wins, especially the crappy ones like Emerson and whatnot. Whether or not it happens, the point is I wouldn't be paying $1000 for a BD player, or even $500 for a HD player, with a chance of the format not lasting.
 
[quote name='gizmogc']Yeah...along with Fantavision 2.[/quote]

Did you actually play Fantavision 1? Don't let its first generation and $5 status fool you, its a colorful fun game.
 
[quote name='gizmogc']Why? Nintendo does 'dual' Console/Handheld confrences...why not Sony? Too much greatness in 2 hours? :lol:[/QUOTE]

:lol: yeah I guess... PSP is mainly getting very good 3rd party support, so that's my reasoning.
 
Reality's Fringe;1879117 said:
MAde a new sig for the occassion, kind of big, but it gets the point across. Tonight was gold.
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Your sig says it will be doing 4d. The 4th dimension is time. So you're saying that the PS3 will have longer load times? Stupendous!:cool:
 
[quote name='trip1eX']No rumble in the PS3 controller.[/QUOTE]

QFT
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']The PSP will be fine.

It's the PS3 that everyone needs to worry about.[/QUOTE]

Agreed! I felt like someone ripped out my heart when Kaz announced the PS3 prices. I'm probably going to call my local gamestop in the morning and pre-order one anyway, but I'm not all too happy about it.
 
I need some clarification on the PS1 games for PSP. You use a card called the Playstation Card (which retails $50) to buy PS1 games (did they say how many?) to download on to a memory stick. Is that right?
 
[quote name='CappyCobra']Your sig says it will be doing 4d. The 4th dimension is time. So you're saying that the PS3 will have longer load times? Stupendous!:cool:[/QUOTE]

Hey, it was Kutaragi's quote, not mine :lol:
 
[quote name='trip1eX']No rumble in the PS3 controller.[/quote]

I'm probably the only person in the world who thinks that is a GOOD thing...
 
[quote name='Foolman']I need some clarification on the PS1 games for PSP. You use a card called the Playstation Card (which retails $50) to buy PS1 games (did they say how many?) to download on to a memory stick. Is that right?[/QUOTE]

Must have missed the 25 second blurb on the PSP.
I think the N-Gage conference will be better.
 
[quote name='Mr. Anderson']Haha, sorry Sony, your fucked.[/QUOTE]

QFT, again.

PARADIGM SHIFT IN INDUSTRY.....NOW
 
At least with the Xbox 360 Core you could upgrade it to be the same as a premium. Not sure how the consumer would be able to add-on the Wifi and card readers for PS3 unless they use some ugly ass external add-on scheme.
 
[quote name='Mr. Anderson']Haha, sorry Sony, your fucked.[/QUOTE]
Elaborate on how please with valid points on how no one will buy one.

Thanks
 
[quote name='Genocidal']At least with the Xbox 360 Core you could upgrade it to be the same as a premium. Not sure how the consumer would be able to add-on the Wifi and card readers for PS3 unless they use some ugly ass external add-on scheme.[/quote]

Bingo! - it's the start of a double edged sword, every bit of crap like this is one less reason for people to avoid PC gaming - the compatibility issue, more computer savy people, more confusing consoles, good news for PC dev's - specifically casual gamers who will just stick to web brower games.

Also how big is Nintendo's bonner right now with the one version of the revolution and the estimated $200-$300 dollar price point?
 
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[quote name='daphatty']Agreed! I felt like someone ripped out my heart when Kaz announced the PS3 prices. I'm probably going to call my local gamestop in the morning and pre-order one anyway, but I'm not all too happy about it.[/quote]

Sony is doing something very similar to what Microsoft did.

They are making their "budget" system so spectacularly shitty that no one will want one and instead will opt to buy the $600 version.

Just imagine what you'll be spending at launch.

- Sony PS3 - $660 (Including tax)
- Extra controller - $40
- A game - $60

- Total - $775 (After taxes)

That is fuckin' insane!!! Sure, these things will sell moderately well when they launch. Maybe they'll even sell out of their initial shipment, but sales will take a nose dive after the holiday season.

Gamers are very irritated that their games have gone from $50 to $60. How do you think the majority will react to their systems going from around $300 to $600?

Sony is playing a dangerous game by pricing the PS3 so high. I think this will come back to haunt them big time. Expect Sony to slash at least $100 off the PS3 within the first six months.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Elaborate on how please with valid points on how no one will buy one.

Thanks[/quote]

Uhhh, how about this one - IT'S fuckING 600 DAMN DOLLARS!
 
the $600 version looks useless to me. it's a little too cutting edge. I don't want a media center that plays music and has a huge HDD. that's what my PC is for. There is no extra gaming enjoyment to be had with HDMI, memory card slots and built in wireless.

one last time: if sony didn't have the 3rd party support and sheer power, i'd be nowhere near this thing.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']
That is fuckin' insane!!! Sure, these things will sell moderately well when they launch. Maybe they'll even sell out of their initial shipment, but sales will take a nose dive after the holiday season.

Gamers are very irritated that their games have gone from $50 to $60. How do you think the majority will react to their systems going from around $300 to $600?

Sony is playing a dangerous game by pricing the PS3 so high. I think this will come back to haunt them big time. Expect Sony to slash at least $100 off the PS3 within the first six months.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, daphatty (no offense intended here - you just illustrated my point) is the reason they might be able to get away with it. They probably sat in their conference room and said "Well, people will hate $600... but they will pay it anyway!" and laughed all the way to E3. It just depends on how many people will pay the $600. Will it be 100 million? I tend to doubt it.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']
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You go to www.ytmnd.com too huh?

[quote name='Grave_Addiction']Uhhh, how about this one - IT'S fuckING 600 DAMN DOLLARS![/QUOTE]
Yeah...thats really not going to stop anyone that wants one. I myself am going for the $500 version since I want it to PLAY games on, not upload stuff off the memory stick and all that.
 
that pic is fucking hilarious!!

but seriously, the $599 premium is the new core. but hey, if you like karaoke and need that extra HDMI sharpness and a ton of memory card ports...
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']Uhhh, how about this one - IT'S fuckING 600 DAMN DOLLARS![/QUOTE]

QFT.

This will be JUST like the PSP launch. The price will drive away lots of sony fans and systems will linger on shelves for months. Anyone remember that? The store i worked for at the time which was in the middle of a fairly small town on the outskirts of milwaukee had 30+ psp's from about april (or whenever launch was) until well past July, when they were distributed to a few other stores..
 
[quote name='whoknows']You go to www.ytmnd.com too huh?


Yeah...thats really not going to stop anyone that wants one. I myself am going for the $500 version since I want it to PLAY games on, not upload stuff off the memory stick and all that.[/quote]

How is that not going to stop anyone who wants one? I don't know what kind of fairy land you live in, but the majority of the American population doesn't have the expendable income to go and blow close to $1,000 on a video game system, a controller and a couple of games.

I'm sure many people will want one, but they will not be able to afford it.

Shit, I want a God damn Dodge Viper, but the last time I looked, there's a fucking 1991 Eagle Talon sitting in my driveway. And it ain't getting any prettier.
 
Okay, let's forget about the price and focus on how the MGS4 and Heavenly Sword trailers looked amazing.

*dodges apples, bottles and other projectiles*
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']Sony is doing something very similar to what Microsoft did.

They are making their "budget" system so spectacularly shitty that no one will want one and instead will opt to buy the $600 version.

Just imagine what you'll be spending at launch.

- Sony PS3 - $660 (Including tax)
- Extra controller - $40
- A game - $60

- Total - $775 (After taxes)

That is fuckin' insane!!! Sure, these things will sell moderately well when they launch. Maybe they'll even sell out of their initial shipment, but sales will take a nose dive after the holiday season.

Gamers are very irritated that their games have gone from $50 to $60. How do you think the majority will react to their systems going from around $300 to $600?

Sony is playing a dangerous game by pricing the PS3 so high. I think this will come back to haunt them big time. Expect Sony to slash at least $100 off the PS3 within the first six months.[/QUOTE]


Don't forget to add on an HDTV. Playing the PS3 on a normal TV will just take away from it and make it look like crap.
 
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