Sony must act on the PSP's performance

I think Sony is getting too far away from gaming with their recent systems. The core use of the PSP is to be a portable gaming device and they keep failing to produce any exclusive games that can't be found any where else.
DS has a huge list of first and third party games that are exclusive
 
[quote name='MadFlava']I think Sony is getting too far away from gaming with their recent systems. [/quote]You mean how the most recent PSP commercial features games for about 20% of the time?
 
[quote name='CitizenB']Its not long before the PSP dies. Walmart and other major retailers quit carrying UMD movies before it was even abandoned.

The problem with the PSP is the cost, need for memory sticks, battery life, and size. Thats just for the PSP itself. The games are another story. Mainly ports, poor rehashes, or release for the PSP after its been on the major consoles for 7-12 months.[/QUOTE]


i would love for the DS to have memory sticks. i would rather be able to rent games off say Gamefly or another place , play them for a few weeks and send them back when im bored. Maybe a month or two later pick it up again and be able to pick up where i left off. Right now there is no way you can do that with ds games(unless you get the same cart and that never happens)

i too say the cost of the psp is hurting it the most (drop it to 129)

memory sticks isnt really a problem since you can get a 2GB for around 70 and you will never need another memory stick for gaming (1GB can be found as low as 20 what is the price of a ps2 memory card) so i dont think memory cards are hurting it

lack of good games is what is killing it. I got it on MAY 1 2006 and thought man im going to love this system. of the 10 or so games that i had at the time I hated everyone of them

I would rather play FF 3 on the DS then play any RPG game out there on the PSP.

im lucky though and since i got my PSP at best buy with the 2 year warrenty plan i can take it back anytime i want and get a gift card in the amount i paid for it since the system is messed up (sometimes the sound dont work)



Just in the OCT 14 to NOV 14 alone take a look at what you could get fror the psp and compair it to DS


DS
children of mana
FF 3
FF 5
magical starsign
ect ect

PSP
ummmm nothing (maybe yu gi oh tag force)

so your looking at 5 games to 1. Even take dec and you will see better games coming to the DS then the PSP


I say SONY Drops the PSP to 149 or even 99.99 at E3 this year

and what the hell became of downloading FF 7 to play on the psp
 
[quote name='slidecage']Just in the OCT 14 to NOV 14 alone take a look at what you could get fror the psp and compair it to DS


DS
children of mana
FF 3
FF 5
magical starsign
ect ect

PSP
ummmm nothing (maybe yu gi oh tag force)

so your looking at 5 games to 1. Even take dec and you will see better games coming to the DS then the PSP


I say SONY Drops the PSP to 149 or even 99.99 at E3 this year

and what the hell became of downloading FF 7 to play on the psp[/QUOTE]

If you are just looking for RPG's I guess you would be disappointed in the PSP in that time frame, but it's not like there weren't a lot of good games that came out for the PSP from October 14th to November 14th. Here's a few:

Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
Dungeon Siege: Throne of Agony
Powerstone Collection
Killzone: Liberation
Lumines II
SOCOM: US Navy Seals Fireteam Bravo 2
Every Extend Extra

I know I'm in the minority, but I honestly don't think that the DS has such an overwhelming lead in quality titles. It's the price of the games that is killing the PSP. I'm much more likely to pick up the $30 DS games right away and wait for the PSP games to drop in price (although Dungeon Siege is very tempting).

But from a strictly numbers game, the number of good PSP games isn't that different than the number of good DS games.
 
[quote name='shipwreck']If you are just looking for RPG's I guess you would be disappointed in the PSP in that time frame, but it's not like there weren't a lot of good games that came out for the PSP from October 14th to November 14th. Here's a few:

Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
Dungeon Siege: Throne of Agony
Powerstone Collection
Killzone: Liberation
Lumines II
SOCOM: US Navy Seals Fireteam Bravo 2
Every Extend Extra

I know I'm in the minority, but I honestly don't think that the DS has such an overwhelming lead in quality titles. It's the price of the games that is killing the PSP. I'm much more likely to pick up the $30 DS games right away and wait for the PSP games to drop in price (although Dungeon Siege is very tempting).

But from a strictly numbers game, the number of good PSP games isn't that different than the number of good DS games.[/QUOTE]

i tried that dungon game didnt care for it . it was too easy to get lost and have no clue where to go next
 
And while we're at it, lets legalize pot.

The reason Sony doesn't just allow homebrew is that it leads to people playing copy written materials illegally. Sure, a calculatior wouldn't be bad, but the same mechanics that allow it to work also allow people to play ISOs of UMD games and emulate other consoles. All of that is 'illegal'. Its not like Sony is going to say, "Ok, you can have the day planner, but not anything else!" I doubt they'll rely on the honor system.

Additionally, I think they can actually be legally/fiscally responsible to Nintendo for allowing the emulation. Since they have the capability to fix it, I think they have to try, legally.

And there are a lot of programs where you just pop in a DVD and say rip to PSP format. They just aren't made by Sony.

[quote name='lordxixor101']I think the PSP looks like a failure only because it has so much potential in people's eyes, but Sony keeps failing it. On it's own, it really isn't that bad.

Things that Sony could do here (but won't).

1) Make it easier to put movies on it. If you own a DVD, you can put it on your PSP, but it's a big headache. But, at the same time, I'm not going to drop $20 on a movie that I own on DVD, just to take it on the road. The UMD format is ill-conceived. I was out in Vegas last week, and they were advertising a $50 portable DVD player at a store for BF. The thing is, very soon, everyone will have a portable player if they want it. So, why spend a bunch on UMD's that cost more and offer less? But, if you make it easier to convert your exisiting DVD's that would be nice.

2) Stop the damn filmware updates, until you fix other stuff. Early on, I could see it. But, how much is Sony spending to update these filmwares? Plus, some of these updates seem to only be to stunt homebrew. The funny thing is, not only do the hackers continuously thwart Sony, but some of their stuff is useful (why not have a calculator or dayplanner program Sony)? Plus, is Sony really losing much by letting the homebrew fly? They haven't figured out the Sony systems yet. I would think they could turn a blind eye to this legally and basically allow you to play all of the GBA games for free. It could only help sell it, and I think they would help sell more games, from gamers who want Vice City Stories, but aren't willing to give up the homebrew (under the fear that Sony will stop releasing games).

3) Heck, let Sony encourage homebrew. It's already there, but allow homebrew people who create useable software (ex the dayplanner) to sell it for a nominal fee from Sony. Honestly, if you allowed this, where the best stuff could sell, wouldn't this tempt talented programmers away from breaking the newest filmware, for the thought of making a few grand? That would be win/win for Sony.

The PSP is my favorite handheld I've ever owned. It looks sleek enough to wow people with at a party in ways that the Nintendo DS won't. But, Sony won't let the darn thing breathe.[/quote]
 
My PSP , 1GB MSPD and Playgear Pocket have become a $425 dollar paper weight. If it didn't have some sentimental value I'd hock it all in a second. I actually charged it for the first time in probably 6-7 months to play some Zelda on it the other day. Beyond that I haven't bought a new game since maybe a month or so after launch. There just weren't any games out there worth upgrading beyond the 1.5 firmware. Still aren't. Meanwhile my DS sees some play everyday and will see even more during and after the holiday season. The PSP sure is pretty but lack of innovation, far too expensive games and constant firmware updates killed the whole thing for me. It actually saddens me a little.
-G
 
[quote name='simplygriff']My PSP , 1GB MSPD and Playgear Pocket have become a $425 dollar paper weight. If it didn't have some sentimental value I'd hock it all in a second. I actually charged it for the first time in probably 6-7 months to play some Zelda on it the other day. Beyond that I haven't bought a new game since maybe a month or so after launch. There just weren't any games out there worth upgrading beyond the 1.5 firmware. Still aren't. Meanwhile my DS sees some play everyday and will see even more during and after the holiday season. The PSP sure is pretty but lack of innovation, far too expensive games and constant firmware updates killed the whole thing for me. It actually saddens me a little.
-G[/quote]

I'm glad that I waited before decide what to replace my trusty GBA SP with. At first I was really tempted to buy the PSP because of the graphical power of the system. I have to admit that the DS did not impress me at all when it came out. Now all the awesome DS games that have come out since launch I now really want one. I'm glad I waited because now I can get the DS Lite.
 
See that's another reason I can't bring myself to get rid of it. I'm a completest. I still have my SP with a broken shoulder button, a NES edition SP, my first DS as well as DSL.

Get a DSL. You will be very happy you did.

I will say I loved the wip3out and Ridge Racer for PSP. I still need to go finish those games.
-G
 
Sony makes a profit off of every PSP; therefore, they are happy. Also, according to next-gen.biz, PSP game and handheld sales have surged as of late.

People need to understand that the success of the DS barely has anything to do with the PSP performance. The PSP is meant to target a completely demographic, where the only similarity they have is play games. Even if the DS wasn't around, the PSP would probably struggle a little, due to stupid piracy (those idiots who run 1.5 to run shitty homebrew crap and can't buy the new wonderful PSP games), little marketing, and not utilizing the strengths of the PSP (such as its excellent graphics, sounds, online capabilities without retarded friend codes). However, Sony is taking some action to improve its performance by putting download stations in retailers.

Most PSP games these days are only $30, some $40, so I don't see pricing as too big of a problem. Many DS games published by Nintendo are $35, but I think most Nintendo first party are overrated anyway, so they're not worth it.
[quote name='simplygriff']My PSP , 1GB MSPD and Playgear Pocket have become a $425 dollar paper weight. If it didn't have some sentimental value I'd hock it all in a second. I actually charged it for the first time in probably 6-7 months to play some Zelda on it the other day. Beyond that I haven't bought a new game since maybe a month or so after launch. There just weren't any games out there worth upgrading beyond the 1.5 firmware. Still aren't. Meanwhile my DS sees some play everyday and will see even more during and after the holiday season. The PSP sure is pretty but lack of innovation, far too expensive games and constant firmware updates killed the whole thing for me. It actually saddens me a little.
-G[/QUOTE]I could list so many great games for you to buy. But stuff like Daxter, Mega Man Powered Up (blows all the original Mega Man games away), Maverick Hunter X, Syphon Filter Dark Mirror, Tekken DR (Best Tekken ever), Killzone Liberation, Loco Roco, Guilty Gear Judgement (Judgement is new and it's fantastic), etc. If you weren't so blind with your PSP support, you can find there are good games for it. There are too many Sony haters which are Nintendo/MS fanboys here anyway.
[quote name='MadFlava']I think Sony is getting too far away from gaming with their recent systems. The core use of the PSP is to be a portable gaming device and they keep failing to produce any exclusive games that can't be found any where else.
DS has a huge list of first and third party games that are exclusive[/QUOTE]Sony has first party exclusive games that cannot be found anywhere else. Also, Sony's first party >>>> Nintendo's first party IMO.

Just my view, I do see the PSP being around for a while. I feel once Sony fixes some of the issues of the PlayStation Network and PlayStation store, they'll be used on the PSP and that should help sales surge.

Also, if devs were to stop supporting PSP, why did just XSeed announce they're brining over Valhalla Knights stateside, Mastiff announcing Gurumin for stateside release, and Atlus announcing Monster Kingdom Jewel Summoner for stateside release? DS games that aren't published by Nintendo (except for a few exceptions like Trauma Center, Casltevania, etc.) sell very bad too. Multiplatform games (such as Madden) sell better on PSP than DS.

I still feel the PSP is the best gaming handheld ever after the GBA. I love the DS too, but the PSP just has more appealing games to me (mostly because I'm not into many Nintendo first party games, leaving the DS for mostly third party support).
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight'] Also, according to next-gen.biz, PSP game and handheld sales have surged as of late.
[/QUOTE]

They had a good week because of the PS3...I wouldn't exactly call that a surge.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Sony makes a profit off of every PSP; therefore, they are happy. Also, according to next-gen.biz, PSP game and handheld sales have surged as of late.

People need to understand that the success of the DS barely has anything to do with the PSP performance. The PSP is meant to target a completely demographic, where the only similarity they have is play games. Even if the DS wasn't around, the PSP would probably struggle a little, due to stupid piracy (those idiots who run 1.5 to run shitty homebrew crap and can't buy the new wonderful PSP games), little marketing, and not utilizing the strengths of the PSP (such as its excellent graphics, sounds, online capabilities without retarded friend codes). However, Sony is taking some action to improve its performance by putting download stations in retailers.

Most PSP games these days are only $30, some $40, so I don't see pricing as too big of a problem. Many DS games published by Nintendo are $35, but I think most Nintendo first party are overrated anyway, so they're not worth it.
I could list so many great games for you to buy. But stuff like Daxter, Mega Man Powered Up (blows all the original Mega Man games away), Maverick Hunter X, Syphon Filter Dark Mirror, Tekken DR (Best Tekken ever), Killzone Liberation, Loco Roco, Guilty Gear Judgement (Judgement is new and it's fantastic), etc. If you weren't so blind with your PSP support, you can find there are good games for it. There are too many Sony haters which are Nintendo/MS fanboys here anyway.
Sony has first party exclusive games that cannot be found anywhere else. Also, Sony's first party >>>> Nintendo's first party IMO.

Just my view, I do see the PSP being around for a while. I feel once Sony fixes some of the issues of the PlayStation Network and PlayStation store, they'll be used on the PSP and that should help sales surge.

Also, if devs were to stop supporting PSP, why did just XSeed announce they're brining over Valhalla Knights stateside, Mastiff announcing Gurumin for stateside release, and Atlus announcing Monster Kingdom Jewel Summoner for stateside release? DS games that aren't published by Nintendo (except for a few exceptions like Trauma Center, Casltevania, etc.) sell very bad too. Multiplatform games (such as Madden) sell better on PSP than DS.

I still feel the PSP is the best gaming handheld ever after the GBA. I love the DS too, but the PSP just has more appealing games to me (mostly because I'm not into many Nintendo first party games, leaving the DS for mostly third party support).[/QUOTE]

Since a lot of this seemed directed at me, I guess I'll bite...

My guess would be that if anything has spurred on purchases of PSP's it would be the holidays coming up. I don't think there have been any AAA killer apps to come out. Maybe it was Vice City stories. But there again, that's just more of the same. My gripe with the PSP is it's all ports. With the exception of LocoRoco I can play every game you mentioned or a game just like it somewhere else. There's just a lack of original property or games that have to be played on a PSP. Simply put, there hasn't been anything to make me want to lose my hacked PSP's capabilities. Maybe there have been for you and that's great. I don't think that makes me an idiot. It makes me a conscious gamer who's weighing the options before me. Hmmm... play some classics on the go as well as some pretty nice launch titles I've yet to beat or upgrade and play the same stuff I just bought to play on my PS2. I just bought the PS2 version, I think I'll get the enjoyment out of that first thanks.

And I'm glad you like the first party Sony stuff. I like the Nintendo first party stuff. That's what makes the world go around.

And watch the way you throw around the words fanboy & hater. As soon as someone disagrees with someone around here they're labeled a fanboy. I'm as far from a fanboy as it gets.
-G
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Also, if devs were to stop supporting PSP, why did just XSeed announce they're brining over Valhalla Knights stateside, Mastiff announcing Gurumin for stateside release, and Atlus announcing Monster Kingdom Jewel Summoner for stateside release? DS games that aren't published by Nintendo (except for a few exceptions like Trauma Center, Casltevania, etc.) sell very bad too. [/QUOTE]

If you can't see the irony in "third party games don't sell well on the DS" and then compare that to "Obscure Bullshit RPG on the PSP coming out in a few months," maybe you shouldn't bring up something so easy for me to attack.
 
[quote name='Strell']If you can't see the irony in "third party games don't sell well on the DS" and then compare that to "Obscure Bullshit RPG on the PSP coming out in a few months," maybe you shouldn't bring up something so easy for me to attack.[/QUOTE]

True, I'm pretty sure "We All Want Another Shrek Game, Right!?" for the DS will most likely sell many more copies than Valhalla Knights.

I think third party sales on the DS are fine. They might not be the third party games that the "hardcore" gamer wants to be selling well, but I don't think we'd be seeing all these licensed third-party games for the DS if they weren't making money off of them.
 
[quote name='Strell']If you can't see the irony in "third party games don't sell well on the DS" and then compare that to "Obscure Bullshit RPG on the PSP coming out in a few months," maybe you shouldn't bring up something so easy for me to attack.[/QUOTE]

Ouch, owned.
 
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