Sony PS3 games to be 59.99-99.99? WTF???

[quote name='VanillaGorilla']"Dude, check out my awesome, $200 Steel Batallion game. Isn't it great?"

No, Steel Batallion sucked.

"Yeah ok, then what about this Limited Edition copy of Katamari Damacy 3 for the PS3, paid $100 for this baby."

You paid $100 for the chance to roll $hit into balls while pre-school music plays in the background?[/QUOTE]

Hey, Steel Battalion rocked. I have never played a more realistic simulation for something that doesn't exist.
 
[quote name='Moxio']God of War Sequel? Okay, but not worth $700.
MGS4? Okay, but not worth $760.
Final Fantasy XIII? Okay, but not worth $840.
Resistance: Fall of Man? Looks good. Not worth $900.

$900? Just for the the FOUR games that I want at the moment? Not even including what tricks Sony has up its sleeve (as you say)? Is it just me or is that outrageous?[/quote]
If you're speaking of God of War II, unless something has changed, that game is for PS2, not PS3.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']The material cost of a game (box, disc, etc) is only going up a little from around 30 cents to maybe 70 cents to a dollar as a result of using blu-ray.

I don't know what the hell people are bitching about.

More polygons, more physics code, and more higher resolution textures means more time, money, and skill/education...

Believe it or not, it actually takes more time to make large levels and high poly models than it does to make small levels and low poly models.

Hell, the Half-Life 2: Episode 1 development team had over 70 people!
Add to that liscensing, lawyers, marketing, manufacturing, inflation, etc. and you have a lot of money down the drain.

Plus, though I hate paying a lot for games, you can't overlook the fact that $50 in 1980 is $70 today, so $60 games for the 360 and PS3 aren't *that* bad (especially when you remember that first party games cost $10 less).[/QUOTE]

While it is true that it is costing more to make games it is because Sony is pushing for more graphically intense block buster titles....and developers are following.

Maybe if companies would make a game with good but not over the top pushed to the limit graphics and tech they would cut back on these expenses and release games at a cheaper price.

Gaming isnt just my hobby its my passion in life and I love it more then anything cept my fiancee. I hate to see a company like Sony raping my passion in this way and thus I am outspoken. I am not waging a Jihad, I am powerless to change things. But I am going to be outspoken about them being such asshats and pushing the industry to be expensive block busters over creating innovative fun games that are cheaper...and could probally be made for UNDER $50

As a gamer I want to see games like God of War and Final Fantasy coming out, but I dont want every freaking game to be a clone of them and cost me $70. I would rather see these games coming out and then developers focusing on great games like Katamari or the DS titles which are just as good and cost 1/3rd the price.
 
Woo hoo!

$70 games for my $600 system!!!

Hopefully I can pay $60 for Sony's "revolutionary" new PS3 controller! And $100 for a 8MB memory card!

The future for Sony looks bright!
 
my nipples retail at $70 each and are worth at least 3 times a ps3 game in market value. I'd say that you're better off with me.
 
[quote name='arthurRWD']If you're speaking of God of War II, unless something has changed, that game is for PS2, not PS3.[/QUOTE]

Well I was just posting games I'd get for the PS3. If GoW makes it there.
 
If it wasn't for the fact that CAG has a majority of Nintendo fanboys, Daddy would be considered a "troll" at the least, anyways..

Phantasy Star 4 - $99
Shining Force 2 - $79
Virtua Racing - $99

It wasn't unheard of for first party SNES titles to retail for $69.99, most stores priced them at $59.99. Donkey Kong Country, Yoshi's Island, and Kirby come to mind. Several first generation PSX and Saturn games were $59.99 as well.

Still though, I can't see PS3 games going past $59.99, I really can't. Sony will try to be competitive with Microsoft, and I can actually see some titles being $39.99. Sony pretty much invented the Greatest Hits pricing point, I can't imagine the first year of the PS3 not having a few budget PS3 titles.

You know what I think is a joke? $34 for DS titles, and the fact that Nintendo barely dropped some Gameboy Advance games to $19.99. Your best selling console and you can't even give it a proper discount line? And what is up with old titles being $29 on Gamecube..Animal Crossing has a memory card..but 1080 Avalanche and Smash Brothers for $30? You've got to be kidding me.
 
[quote name='sarausagi']You know what I think is a joke? $34 for DS titles, and the fact that Nintendo barely dropped some Gameboy Advance games to $19.99. Your best selling console and you can't even give it a proper discount line? And what is up with old titles being $29 on Gamecube..Animal Crossing has a memory card..but 1080 Avalanche and Smash Brothers for $30? You've got to be kidding me.[/quote]

Tendo is on record for wanting to smash the decreasing game price model. The customer will decide their success...
 
[quote name='sarausagi']If it wasn't for the fact that CAG has a majority of Nintendo fanboys, Daddy would be considered a "troll" at the least, anyways..

Phantasy Star 4 - $99
Shining Force 2 - $79
Virtua Racing - $99

It wasn't unheard of for first party SNES titles to retail for $69.99, most stores priced them at $59.99. Donkey Kong Country, Yoshi's Island, and Kirby come to mind. Several first generation PSX and Saturn games were $59.99 as well.

Still though, I can't see PS3 games going past $59.99, I really can't. Sony will try to be competitive with Microsoft, and I can actually see some titles being $39.99. Sony pretty much invented the Greatest Hits pricing point, I can't imagine the first year of the PS3 not having a few budget PS3 titles.

You know what I think is a joke? $34 for DS titles, and the fact that Nintendo barely dropped some Gameboy Advance games to $19.99. Your best selling console and you can't even give it a proper discount line? And what is up with old titles being $29 on Gamecube..Animal Crossing has a memory card..but 1080 Avalanche and Smash Brothers for $30? You've got to be kidding me.[/QUOTE]

Nintendos pricing on games is unfair.....but come on you cant honestly think its as bad as Sonys....
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Nintendos pricing on games is unfair.....but come on you cant honestly think its as bad as Sonys....[/QUOTE]
How is Sony's worse? Its 10x better IMO.

Most first party games are $40 and 3rd pary $50 where they in a few months drop to the $20-$30 price point or even lower. Plus they have the greatest hits line. I dont see any PS2 launch game that still goes for fucking $30. Seriously, Nintendo is horrible at price drops.

If you are referring to PS3 prices...nothing has been officially announced yet!!
 
[quote name='whoknows']How is Sony's worse? Its 10x better IMO.

Most first party games are $40 and 3rd pary $50 where they in a few months drop to the $20-$30 price point or even lower. Plus they have the greatest hits line. I dont see any PS2 launch game that still goes for fucking $30. Seriously, Nintendo is horrible at price drops.

If you are referring to PS3 prices...nothing has been officially announced yet!![/QUOTE]

Yes, but system price is fucking $600 and come on games are all but confirmed to be $60 or more. $35 for a DS game is pretty fair given its a cart and a damn small one at that, and $20 for GBA again isnt that bad. And Nintendo does take too long to lower prices on their games and then to lower to $30 is a bit messed. But come on its a laugh to try and compare a $600 system with $60-$100 games to a $200-$250 one with $50 games(hell there are even rumors of games costing $40 on Wii).
 
One of you is arguing that Nintendo's current pricing model sucks. The other is arguing that Sony's future pricing model sucks.

Sort it out, nubs.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Yes, but system price is fucking $600 and come on games are all but confirmed to be $60 or more. $35 for a DS game is pretty fair given its a cart and a damn small one at that, and $20 for GBA again isnt that bad. And Nintendo does take too long to lower prices on their games and then to lower to $30 is a bit messed. But come on its a laugh to try and compare a $600 system with $60-$100 games to a $200-$250 one with $50 games(hell there are even rumors of games costing $40 on Wii).[/QUOTE]
I'd rather have $60 games that drop down to $20 after a few months than $50 or even $40 games that stay that price for over a year.
 
[quote name='Z-Saber']One of you is arguing that Nintendo's current pricing model sucks. The other is arguing that Sony's future pricing model sucks.

Sort it out, nubs.[/QUOTE]

Ermmmm Nintendos is a minor problem though its nothing major. Sonys is a seriously major problem.

And whoknows that makes no sense. Honestly, think about it, if the gams raise in value by $10 chances are the greatest hit prices will to. That means $30 games. You will be spending $600 for your console while I pay $200 then you pay $30 for your used games after a years wait to drop in price.

Sounds good.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Yes, but system price is fucking $600 and come on games are all but confirmed to be $60 or more. $35 for a DS game is pretty fair given its a cart and a damn small one at that, and $20 for GBA again isnt that bad. And Nintendo does take too long to lower prices on their games and then to lower to $30 is a bit messed. But come on its a laugh to try and compare a $600 system with $60-$100 games to a $200-$250 one with $50 games(hell there are even rumors of games costing $40 on Wii).[/QUOTE]

I can buy a microsd card with 512 MB of space for $20, a 2 GB SD card for $40, the space to size ratio isn't an excuse for the price of DS games at all. Considering the low polygon counts on games, plus the length of most DS game, it's not worth it. There's still no "Pokemon" or "Zelda" that I can buy full price on release date and keep playing for the next year and a half.

That $600 system can still do MORE to ENTERTAIN me straight out of the box than the Wii can. Unless the Wii is magically going to play two generations of games, DVD's, Blu Ray's, and who knows what else without even being hooked up to the internet or purchasing accesories, then there's no logic to the Wii being better besides "Oooh, PS3 is $600!" A decent entry/mid level keyboard can cost around $1000, all it does is reproduce sounds and emulate instruments. A half way decent LCD monitor is still $300, maybe a little less. A complete outfit can cost me $600 if I splurge, and it's just fucking clothes and some make up and a cheap pair of earrings.

Wii sports and Super Mario Galaxy will still cost $30-50 three years from release. I'll probably be able to buy the entire PS3 launch library for $100 total about a year after. You can't say it's the quality of the games that keeps the prices high, because Mario Party 6 and Luigi's Mansion sure aren't worth anything more than the dozens of A list games available NEW for $14.99 and $19.99 on PS2. A newbie to the PS2 can still buy a system, spend $60 on games, and have more than enough to play for the whole year.
 
I stopped reading right...
[quote name='sarausagi']Unless the Wii is magically going to play two generations of games[/quote]there.
 
[quote name='sarausagi']I can buy a microsd card with 512 MB of space for $20, a 2 GB SD card for $40, the space to size ratio isn't an excuse for the price of DS games at all. Considering the low polygon counts on games, plus the length of most DS game, it's not worth it. There's still no "Pokemon" or "Zelda" that I can buy full price on release date and keep playing for the next year and a half.

That $600 system can still do MORE to ENTERTAIN me straight out of the box than the Wii can. Unless the Wii is magically going to play two generations of games, DVD's, Blu Ray's, and who knows what else without even being hooked up to the internet or purchasing accesories, then there's no logic to the Wii being better besides "Oooh, PS3 is $600!" A decent entry/mid level keyboard can cost around $1000, all it does is reproduce sounds and emulate instruments. A half way decent LCD monitor is still $300, maybe a little less. A complete outfit can cost me $600 if I splurge, and it's just fucking clothes and some make up and a cheap pair of earrings.

Wii sports and Super Mario Galaxy will still cost $30-50 three years from release. I'll probably be able to buy the entire PS3 launch library for $100 total about a year after. You can't say it's the quality of the games that keeps the prices high, because Mario Party 6 and Luigi's Mansion sure aren't worth anything more than the dozens of A list games available NEW for $14.99 and $19.99 on PS2. A newbie to the PS2 can still buy a system, spend $60 on games, and have more than enough to play for the whole year.[/QUOTE]

1. Those $20-$40 cards store data.....DS cards play games. Big difference.

2. The Wii plays GC games out the box as well as DS/GBA games thus it plays 3 generations, 4 if you include Wii generation out the box. Plus if you think about it you can do virtual console which adds countless generations. Learn your facts.

3. Blu Ray is hicking up pricing. Pretty much when you buy a PS3 you are buying a Blue Ray player not getting one for free. So you saying it plays Blue Rays is kinda stupid. Besides who gives a shit outside rich preppy spoiled brats and the rare tech nut. Honestly DVDs are fine and Blue Ray might not even win the format war meaning your Blu Ray player is useless after a year.

4. I stopped reading when you started talking about how much you spend on stuff. Your just a spoiled rich kid who doesnt understand the value of a dollar or what money means to most people.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Ermmmm Nintendos is a minor problem though its nothing major. Sonys is a seriously major problem.

And whoknows that makes no sense. Honestly, think about it, if the gams raise in value by $10 chances are the greatest hit prices will to. That means $30 games. You will be spending $600 for your console while I pay $200 then you pay $30 for your used games after a years wait to drop in price.

Sounds good.[/QUOTE]
Doesnt have to be a greatest hit to be $20, Perfect Dark Zero is $19.99 at many places now and its not a platinum hit right now, not even a year since it was released and a lot of 360 game go for $60. I wont have to wait years for the $30 pricepoint on PS3 games either, evey systems games drop fairly quickly except Nintendo's. I'll wont even have to wait a year for PS3 price drops while with a Nintendo console I would be waiting 2+ years for it to get on the Players Choice list and most likely with a $30 price tag.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Doesnt have to be a greatest hit to be $20, Perfect Dark Zero is $19.99 at many places now and its not a platinum hit right now, not even a year since it was released and a lot of 360 game go for $60. I wont have to wait years for the $30 pricepoint on PS3 games either, evey systems games drop fairly quickly except Nintendo's. I'll wont even have to wait a year for PS3 price drops while with a Nintendo console I would be waiting 2+ years for it to get on the Players Choice list and most likely with a $30 price tag.[/QUOTE]

But Perfect Dark Zero sucked. The 30 dollar price point will probably come on the most disappointing launch games. If you think MGS IV is going to be less then 60 in half a year though, you're smoking something. As far as Nintendo goes, their pricing structure sucks for games, but DS games drop in price like stones after they're released (even if it is Target, Circuit City, or TRU who's putting them on sale). Plus there's the whole thing that the console costs TWICE AS MUCH!!! And that's assuming the Wii gets the price of $250 and you pick up the game at "cheap" version. Also, you're not considering the potential added cost of downloads. Even at a $20 price point, a game like Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter or Elder Scrolls IV still has an extra 10-20 hidden in add-ons.

My guess is that the greatest hits line will be jacked up to $30 and included most of the stuff you'd typically pay for through the microtransactions to justify the price hike. You're kidding yourself if you think you're spending less money in any way by picking up the PS3 rather then a Wii.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Doesnt have to be a greatest hit to be $20, Perfect Dark Zero is $19.99 at many places now and its not a platinum hit right now, not even a year since it was released and a lot of 360 game go for $60. I wont have to wait years for the $30 pricepoint on PS3 games either, evey systems games drop fairly quickly except Nintendo's. I'll wont even have to wait a year for PS3 price drops while with a Nintendo console I would be waiting 2+ years for it to get on the Players Choice list and most likely with a $30 price tag.[/QUOTE]


Yes.....and you are going by SECOND/THIRD party titles for a non Sony system. If you use your head and stopped being such a biased fanboy you would recognize that Nintendos FIRST party games are the only ones that have had this problem. Third and second party games have dropped very fast. Even some first party titles like Pikmin, Luigi Mansion and again all third parties dropped really fast, hell I often bought GC versions of multi console games like BloodRayne and Baldurs Gate DA because they were cheaper then counter parts on other systems.

Again try setting your bias aside. As someone else said you are going by Nintendo official prices and new games. If you freaking just look at third party games and retailers other then ebgames you will find Nintendos games just as cheap if not cheaper.

ZSaber - Nintendo said not long ago that the Wii will play DS games and actually be able to do it with the Wii controller. Maybe this will be via a add on to the system or something but it will apparently will be able to do it.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']ZSaber - Nintendo said not long ago that the Wii will play DS games and actually be able to do it with the Wii controller. Maybe this will be via a add on to the system or something but it will apparently will be able to do it.[/quote]I'm going to ask for a link. I never heard anything about this and I've been following Wii news intently.
 
[quote name='Z-Saber']I'm going to ask for a link. I never heard anything about this and I've been following Wii news intently.[/QUOTE]

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060607-7009.html

Not exactly a reliable source but thats just a google check. I know it was at gamesarefun.com or magicbox.com a few weeks ago but Im not about to search through weeks of news to find it.

Edit - BTW I should clarify that in my origional post that I didnt mean to suggest that the Wii will play DS games without owning a DS. That obviously wont be the case but my post probally did sound like thats what I was saying.
 
[quote name='camoor']LoL

http://angrysonyfanboy.ytmnd.com/[/QUOTE]

That's classic.

I don't see Sony selling games for $100, it's unreasonable for the vast majority of consumers. I think games will be between $60 to $80 (for the "Limited/Special Edition" releases), and some "bargain" titles falling around $50 when they are released.

After a few months retailers will drop the prices like they always do and we'll start seeing games that the $40-$60 range and even cheaper down the road. No matter how high the initial price is it will drop over time.
 
100$ a game is pretty damn ridiculous. but... don't any of you remember how much nintendo and super nintendo games were when they first came out forever ago? they were around 100$ a game. soo.. you cant bitch too much. but it's totally not worth the money for just a video game when you could have just as much fun playing another game for another system thats 1/4 the price aka wii
 
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