Stranger Slapped Crying Child, Police Say

Slap the parent? So now if I don't "calm down" my child fast enough in public, I should expect physical abuse? Fucking morons.
 
Tempted? Maybe to smack the parents. If anyone ever did that to my son they would not have a chance to do it to another child.

rotflmao!
 
[quote name='Malik112099']You are in for a RUDE awakening. You THINK you know what you are going to do with your kid but you don't - turns out you don't know SHIT. Trust me. I was there too. 2 kids later I still wing it sometimes cause you never when and where your kid is gonna throw a curveball at you.

We were at a restaraunt one time and my son got food on his neck and down his shirt so I grabbed a wet wipe and started cleaning off his neck and he yells "Daddy don't choke me!" and my wife and I were like "Where the fuck did that come from!?!??!"[/QUOTE]

Listen, if you've got a special needs kid or a real terror I'll cut you some slack. There are some kids that probably do actually have ADD and that's probably a pain in the ass to deal with, I feel bad for those parents.

i do like how you think you know everything though. Just because you had to get clued in that being a parent is a responsibility that takes hard work, doesn't mean we don't get it.
 
[quote name='camoor']Listen, if you've got a special needs kid or a real terror I'll cut you some slack. There are some kids that probably do actually have ADD and that's probably a pain in the ass to deal with, I feel bad for those parents.

i do like how you think you know everything though. Just because you had to get clued in that being a parent is a responsibility that takes hard work, doesn't mean we don't get it.[/QUOTE]


Do you have a kid? No? Then you don't get it. Period. End of fucking conversation.
 
[quote name='Malik112099']An ignorant citizen is what started this whole thing. A simple spanking to you might seem excessive or unneccessary to someone else which can in turn lead to a phone call to the police. Yes, spanking your child is legal in all 50 states but child abuse is not and an ignorant/snobby/whatever citizen seeing you do that in public can still call and say that they are witnessing child abuse and cops will show up. Spanking your cild in public is just, in general, bad all around.

Some of you are speaking purely on the basic law and that everyone witnessing is of sound mind and judgement and all have the same personal opinions about all the same things. Shit doesn't work that way. Stop being so ignorant.[/QUOTE]
I will say it again spanking your toddler is 100% legal here in the states and isn't considered child abuse. If someone sees you spanking your toddler and considers it child abuse (as defined by the law) then you are doing it wrong. I'm sure the police dispatch have heard it all before and most likely can distinguish a loony calling the cops because or Dad spanked little Bobby's bottom twice or Mom smacking little Sally's hand for not putting something down or Mom slapping Jane's mouth for swearing and Dad backhanding little Bobby across the face. If the cops still come and question you I guarantee the whistle blower will get an ass chewing from the police and you will get an apology.
 
[quote name='spoo']I will say it again spanking your toddler is 100% legal here in the states and isn't considered child abuse. If someone sees you spanking your toddler and considers it child abuse (as defined by the law) then you are doing it wrong. I'm sure the police dispatch have heard it all before and most likely can distinguish a loony calling the cops because or Dad spanked little Bobby's bottom twice or Mom smacking little Sally's hand for not putting something down or Mom slapping Jane's mouth for swearing and Dad backhanding little Bobby across the face. If the cops still come and question you I guarantee the whistle blower will get an ass chewing from the police and you will get an apology.[/QUOTE]

You dont fucking get it. We all understand what the law states but people these fucking days call the cops over incorrect orders in fast food drive thru's much less some one disciplining their child in a grocery store. Yeah, it's legal but it looks bad, is embarrassing and can cause unwanted attention from both onlookers and law enforcement.

What the fuck is wrong with some of you?
 
[quote name='Malik112099']You dont fucking get it. We all understand what the law states but people these fucking days call the cops over incorrect orders in fast food drive thru's much less some one disciplining their child in a grocery store. Yeah, it's legal but it looks bad, is embarrassing and can cause unwanted attention from both onlookers and law enforcement.

What the fuck is wrong with some of you?[/QUOTE]

If we give in to fear, if we aren't able to do these simple and ordinary things, the terrorists have won.
 
[quote name='spoo']If we give in to fear, if we aren't able to do these simple and ordinary things, the terrorists have won.[/QUOTE]


OK..once you have no legs to stand on you resort to an overly used, unfunny meme... if a girl is ever dumb enough to let you father children come talk to me about how raising a kid REALLY is...

also, is your screen name your childhood nickname spelled backwards?
 
As an attorney, I have gotten calls from plenty of people that were arrested for completely legal behavior. The charges are later dropped, but it is a hassle you should not have to deal with. I have taken the call from a guy that call the police because his Subway order wasn't right. There are some real lunatics out here.

And let's not forget, we are talking about a TWO year old!
 
[quote name='mis0']There sure were a lot of CAG's in this thread who thought slapping that kid was AWESOME.

Step away from the controller/keyboard and join us in reality; it's not socially accepted to SMACK other people's kids. It wasn't funny, it wasn't necessary, it was wrong.

That grandpa had some issues smacking a little girl in public. Send him to prison and death row, we don't need dumbass lunatics roaming in our precious Wal Marts.
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:rofl: :rofl: DEATH ROW? :rofl: :rofl: And the few of us who laughed at this are the lunatics? Nut.

[quote name='vasco']How the fuck does me not telling my kid to shut up bad parenting?! Seriously?! Not changing my kid when his diaper is dirty, bad parenting. Letting my 4 year old steal; bad parenting. Using my kid for prostitution; also bad parenting. Letting my kid cry in a store cuz he's tired, annoyed or bored and I can't do a thing about it; not bad parenting. Just reality. Remember when you were that annoying toddler? Facts of life. If you can't dig it, don't have any kids. You'll be in for a rude awakening.[/QUOTE]

I remember acting up in a store. Either I was tired, or hungry, or I wanted something and was told No. I would be maaaad. So, I'd cry. My parents, being parents, would make me STFU.
 
Are you fucking kidding me??

Do some of you morons truly believe you can just stop a child from crying..just because you say so or else? Also do you realize smacking a child MAKES THEM CRY MORE. There is no be all end all solution to a child crying like some of you seem to think in this thread, different solutions for different situations.

Don't get me wrong I do agree that some parents fucking suck at what they do and let their children get away with way too much in public and children do NEED to be disciplined. But at the same time you can't assume every parent who has a child crying in public is a bad parent when you don't know shit about the child or the parent.

The stupidity in this thread truly amazes me...
 
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I'm not a parent but been around little kids/toddlers/babies a bunch. Kids are going to lose their minds occasionally and go nuts screaming and ect. Every kid does it. Responsible parents will do what they can to end it. As long as they make an attempt thats all I ask. Bottom line is you never try to discipline or touch someone elses kid. Hell I wouldn't put up with someone hitting my dog, much less my kid.
 
Yeah this thread should be used to determine who will be allowed to procreate.

Kids cry. Period. You can't abuse them because of it. 4 Slaps to the face is abuse. Plain and simple.

Someone even said this was common 25+ years ago. Spoo maybe? Were you even alive 25 years ago? Because I was and I never once saw strangers walking around slapping little girls.

Sucks cheapy bought this domain name because it should clearly be "crazyassgamer.com" after seeing this thread :D
 
Seriously some of you have no idea what its like to have children as others have mentioned already you can't just command them to do something and expect it done. And for those of you stating its ok to hit a child, your going to be a bad parent. Hitting a child is failing as a parent, its losing control of yourself and resorting to the easiest way out which in this case is smacking a child, which doesn't teach your child anything except to fear you. I don't hit my children and I won't because its a barbaric practice of bygone era. And second I don't give a damn if my kids annoy you out somewhere(besides places where I wouldn't bring them-movies, fancy resteraunt, etc because thats common sense) there fing kids get over yourself if you think you were any different or if your parents beat you until you were to afraid to be a kid I feel sorry that you had to live in fear as a child.
 
[quote name='blissskr']Seriously some of you have no idea what its like to have children as others have mentioned already you can't just command them to do something and expect it done. And for those of you stating its ok to hit a child, your going to be a bad parent. Hitting a child is failing as a parent, its losing control of yourself and resorting to the easiest way out which in this case is smacking a child, which doesn't teach your child anything except to fear you. I don't hit my children and I won't because its a barbaric practice of bygone era. And second I don't give a damn if my kids annoy you out somewhere(besides places where I wouldn't bring them-movies, fancy resteraunt, etc because thats common sense) there fing kids get over yourself if you think you were any different or if your parents beat you until you were to afraid to be a kid I feel sorry that you had to live in fear as a child.[/QUOTE]

Well if you're the parent you don't want to "hit" the kid, but if you spank them to instill shame for bad behavior it can do wonders. I was slapped too - caused me to change my ways and I probably deserved it. When you classify it as barbaric it just highlights to me that you don't know what discipline is.

If you're not the parent, best not to touch the kids. I grew up in a country that had corporal punishment at school too - I know the shrinks and lawyers own everyone's nuts in this country but trust me it's no big deal. You get slapped across the hand with a thick leather strap or swatted with a long wooden stick, it stings, and you learn that being late to class is not a good idea. I am shocked at the rude behavior of American kids, who knows what the ultimate cause is but I'm sure the pussy-footing around that stands for discipline in this country (and the damn lawyers) have played a big role. Your kids wouldn't act like a typical rude out-of-control American kid where I come from, you better believe me on that.
 
[quote name='camoor']Well if you're the parent you don't want to "hit" the kid, but if you spank them to instill shame for bad behavior it can do wonders. I was slapped too - caused me to change my ways and I probably deserved it. When you classify it as barbaric it just highlights to me that you don't know what discipline is.[/QUOTE]

And your statement highlights to me that your the type of guy that doesn't understand why when you go to pet your dog that he cowers before you. So I guess its ok for force to be used to discipline a child, by the same token its then ok for young girls to be stoned to death in the middle east in honor killings because thats still just discipline in a different society and thats not barbaric either is it then. Discipline is punishment that doesn't mean smacking or hitting a child, thats just a loss of control. Its really funny in a way because by a child losing control a parent is going to correct that by losing control also. I bet its ok for you to shove your childs face in their own shit if they go on the floor while potty training right? I mean thats just a helpful bit of shaming isn't it.
 
[quote name='camoor']Well if you're the parent you don't want to "hit" the kid, but if you spank them to instill shame for bad behavior it can do wonders. I was slapped too - caused me to change my ways and I probably deserved it. When you classify it as barbaric it just highlights to me that you don't know what discipline is.

If you're not the parent, best not to touch the kids. I grew up in a country that had corporal punishment at school too - I know the shrinks and lawyers own everyone's nuts in this country but trust me it's no big deal. You get slapped across the hand with a thick leather strap or swatted with a long wooden stick, it stings, and you learn that being late to class is not a good idea. I am shocked at the rude behavior of American kids, who knows what the ultimate cause is but I'm sure the pussy-footing around that stands for discipline in this country (and the damn lawyers) have played a big role. Your kids wouldn't act like a typical rude out-of-control American kid where I come from, you better believe me on that.[/QUOTE]

Rude out of control kids come from rude out of control parents. I have never laid a finger on my daughter and she is polite, well-mannered, caring, and courteous.

The typical adult is rude and out of control. That is why the typical kid is rude and out of control. Not because a lack of physical abuse.

I'm also curious to see if you could find it in your heart to hit your child when you have one.
 
[quote name='HowStern']Rude out of control kids come from rude out of control parents. I have never laid a finger on my daughter and she is polite, well-mannered, caring, and courteous.[/QUOTE]

Well obviously there is not much need to discipline then, is there? Sounds like you're pretty lucky, I'm obviously not talking about your situation.

I'm talking about the meltdowns who throw tantrums everywhere - like that guy who doesn't care if his kid throws tantrums in the supermarket because it's somehow everyone else's fault. In my mind corporal punishment has to be very light and very seldom - it takes a special offense and the idea is to shame. I guess y'all don't understand because you grew up with helicopter parents or hippies.

The point is you don't even have to use corporal punishment, you just have to discipline your kid. And I have a real, real, real hard time believing that the people who get their nose bent out-of-shape about a light spanking or fail to understand what's wrong with letting a screaming child reign over a supermarket know one thing about discipline.
 
[quote name='camoor'] I guess y'all don't understand because you grew up with helicopter parents or hippies. [/QUOTE]

No, I think understand too well if you know what I mean.


As for your other point. When a kid is acting up in public it's 1)because they are a kid and 2)because of something the parent did/didn't do before. Not because the parent didn't hit them after.
 
[quote name='HowStern']
Someone even said this was common 25+ years ago. Spoo maybe? Were you even alive 25 years ago? Because I was and I never once saw strangers walking around slapping little girls.
[/QUOTE]

I did. I grew up on a reservation. The Slapaho tribe.
 
If you read a little bit further you would see my explanation.
[quote name='xgrimx']Are you fucking kidding me??

Do some of you morons truly believe you can just stop a child from crying..just because you say so or else? Also do you realize smacking a child MAKES THEM CRY MORE. There is no be all end all solution to a child crying like some of you seem to think in this thread, different solutions for different situations.
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We all know kids cry. We are talking about the extreme cases of kids crying throughout the whole store with parents not doing anything about it. I'm talking about leaving the store, giving it a cracker anything to try to stop it. We aren't these heartless bastards that don't understand that toddlers get fussy but we all have been in the situation that a mom or a dad took their kid to the grocery store and it screamed to no end and the parent did nothing but go on with their shopping disregarding everyone in the store.
[quote name='blissskr'] And for those of you stating its ok to hit a child, your going to be a bad parent. Hitting a child is failing as a parent, its losing control of yourself and resorting to the easiest way out which in this case is smacking a child, which doesn't teach your child anything except to fear you. I don't hit my children and I won't because its a barbaric practice of bygone era.[/QUOTE] Hitting =/= spanking or slapping. Hitting a child is wrong and that is when the person looses control.
[quote name='blissskr']And second I don't give a damn if my kids annoy you out somewhere(besides places where I wouldn't bring them-movies, fancy resteraunt, etc because thats common sense) there fing kids get over yourself if you think you were any different or if your parents beat you until you were to afraid to be a kid I feel sorry that you had to live in fear as a child.[/QUOTE] You are one of the parents we don't like. If you don't want to spank your child (and I'm fine with that) but you need to use some sort of discipline tactic because your are teaching your offspring to the same rudeness that you are showing here. Like I said above we know kids will be kids but having absolutely no control over your kids and not giving a damn isn't teaching them anything besides it is ok to do what you want when you want to.
[quote name='blissskr']And your statement highlights to me that your the type of guy that doesn't understand why when you go to pet your dog that he cowers before you. So I guess its ok for force to be used to discipline a child, by the same token its then ok for young girls to be stoned to death in the middle east in honor killings because thats still just discipline in a different society and thats not barbaric either is it then. Discipline is punishment that doesn't mean smacking or hitting a child, thats just a loss of control. Its really funny in a way because by a child losing control a parent is going to correct that by losing control also. I bet its ok for you to shove your childs face in their own shit if they go on the floor while potty training right? I mean thats just a helpful bit of shaming isn't it.[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing that you were never spanked as a child or that you came from a family that handed out ass beatings (not spankings.) There is a very distinct difference between the two. Comparing simple corporal punishment and beating a child are so very different.

[quote name='HowStern']Rude out of control kids come from rude out of control parents. I have never laid a finger on my daughter and she is polite, well-mannered, caring, and courteous.
The typical adult is rude and out of control. That is why the typical kid is rude and out of control. Not because a lack of physical abuse.[/QUOTE]
And this is the exactly what we are talking about. Spanking is just another way to set boundaries with your children. Does that mean they will never act out in public? No but if boundaries are set than it is easier for the parent to quickly take control of situations. I don't have children of my own but I come from a big extended family and I had to watch and take care of a much younger cousin during my early twenties and my two nephews for a half a year a few years ago (and no I didn't beat them.)
 
[quote name='lilboo']:rofl: :rofl: DEATH ROW? :rofl: :rofl: And the few of us who laughed at this are the lunatics? Nut.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. I was kidding, thanks dude. However, I personally think the United States should be a bit more trigger happy with the death sentence. Murder and rape should not equal life in prison, it should automatically be the death sentence. And eye for an eye, a life for a life. But of course, the death penalty will always be opposed by them hippies and people with nothing better to do.

[quote name='Purple Flames']I'll just leave this here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhWEvbjFF8s[/QUOTE]

From what I remember when seeing that video, the dude who kicked the kid was mentally challenged. But yeah, the father is a boss. Lunged forward to knock that dude without hesitating.
 
[quote name='spoo']
You are one of the parents we don't like. If you don't want to spank your child (and I'm fine with that) but you need to use some sort of discipline tactic because your are teaching your offspring to the same rudeness that you are showing here. Like I said above we know kids will be kids but having absolutely no control over your kids and not giving a damn isn't teaching them anything besides it is ok to do what you want when you want to. [/QUOTE]
Ok just because I dont spank my children doesn't mean I don't give them any discipline. My daughters are extremely well behaved and Im often complimented on how pleasant they are out in public. And I was just stating that I dont give a dam if they were bothering someone in certain situations, not that I condone letting children run wild with no supervision. I should have clarified because that I don't support. And when you find yourself an actual parent you may find that your views change.
 
[quote name='blissskr']I was just stating that I dont give a dam if they were bothering someone in certain situations...[/QUOTE]

Once when I was in a department store, a little boy was running absolutely wild through the men's clothing section. I mean this little guy was going absolutely apeshit running and yelling around the tables and racks while mom and dad looked at clothes doing absolutely nothing about their little turd of a son as he annoyed the hell out of the other customers. Well, Junior ran a bit too close to me too many times and my foot shot out quickly and tripped his little ass right down onto the floor. Fast as lightning, my foot was back under me and no one saw what happened. All they saw was a stunned little kid sprawled dazed on the ground looking around all confused-like. At least a half dozen people smirked and muttered that his parents should've done a better job keeping their kid under control. I guess what I'm trying to say here is, if you don't give a damn about your kids bothering other people, someone else might.
 
I think this thread is a perfect illustration of why people need to keep their kids under control in public... because the world is full of some pretty crazy people that are starting to think it's OK to whack a screaming, out-of-control brat for bothering them. Don't remove them from the store for the other customers- do it so some crazy guy doesn't beat your kid!

As a retail worker, I get to listen to a LOT of screaming, misbehaved kids. Here's my take on the whole thing:

-Do try to quiet your kid, please. I know ignoring works sometimes, but be reasonable... I remember a lady who walked around the store with a screaming baby for damn near a full hour, browsing and acting like nothing was going on at all. If it becomes apparent after a few minutes that the cold shoulder isn't working, do something else. Leaving the store for a little while is fine- I'll watch your cart.

-Do NOT placate the kid with toys or candy. It doesn't work, they'll run back for more in a matter of seconds and scream louder when you say they already got something. I'm always more supportive of a parent denying their child a treat for bad behavior, I don't even mind helping a bit ("Those candy are nasty anyway, you shouldn't cry for those!")

-If the clerk politely asks your kid to stop doing something, support them- they have a good reason... I did get one annoyed mom becuase I asked her kids not to bounce on the sides of the ribbon bin- it has wheels. It will move, and they will fall. Normally this is a non-isue for me, since I always explain myself at the same time ("Please don't climb up the sides of the carts, they'll fall over"- and I have seem it happen.)

-Have your kid clean up after themselves. I know the rubber animals are cool, and I don't mind your boys setting up a giant bug-army war with every insect on the shelf too much... as long as they put them away properly when they're done. You'd be surprised how much time we spend on that- just today I spent the first hour of my shift running back to a toy grid to clean up after 3 very loud young girls who kept emptying bins of toys onto the floor.

-This is probably the biggest one- DON'T run, and DON'T climb. Seriously, I'm moving carts and boxes and freight I can't always see around, half our displays are on wheels and can be knocked totally out of place... not to mention all of the shelving is designed to come out, and therefore can (and does) fall out with a good whack or too much weight. There is, quite simply, a lot of opportunity for damage to both your child, other shoppers, and store property if your kids go zipping around like maniacs. Play if you must, scream if you must... but walk. This goes for those damn wheelie shoes too, which can be worse than the running.

And becuase someone will ask- no, I don't have kids, nor do I plan to- me and my fiance agree that if you have a kid, your life focuses on the kid... and as of now at least, we're both too selfish to focus everything onto a child. Also, the above is not based on making me 'happier' at work... it's based on all the times I've watched people's kids get hurt becuase they weren't behaving. It's a mutual benefit, I swear.
 
[quote name='DuelLadyS']I'm always more supportive of a parent denying their child a treat for bad behavior, I don't even mind helping a bit ("Those candy are nasty anyway, you shouldn't cry for those!")[/QUOTE]


Don't do that.
 
[quote name='spoo']And this is the exactly what we are talking about. Spanking is just another way to set boundaries with your children. Does that mean they will never act out in public? No but if boundaries are set than it is easier for the parent to quickly take control of situations. I don't have children of my own but I come from a big extended family and I had to watch and take care of a much younger cousin during my early twenties and my two nephews for a half a year a few years ago (and no I didn't beat them.)[/QUOTE]

If you raise your kid intelligently there is never a need to even feel like you have to spank them. I am completely strict with my daughter. No means no. She never gets any lee way once the wife and I have told her the rules. Never have have I felt "Oh, she is getting out of control I better hit her!" She is a human being I am able to talk to. I say to her "Stop [whatever she is doing]" then explain why it's ridiculous behavior.

If she can understand this at only 3 yrs old then any parent who has to hit their kid is a retard and like they say the apple doesn't fall far from the retard tree.
 
[quote name='HowStern']If you raise your kid intelligently there is never a need to even feel like you have to spank them. I am completely strict with my daughter. No means no. She never gets any lee way once the wife and I have told her the rules. Never have have I felt "Oh, she is getting out of control I better hit her!" She is a human being I am able to talk to. I say to her "Stop [whatever she is doing]" then explain why it's ridiculous behavior.

If she can understand this at only 3 yrs old then any parent who has to hit their kid is a retard and like they say the apple doesn't fall far from the retard tree.[/QUOTE]

In the last 5,000 years, what percentage of parents haven't spanked their kids.
 
[quote name='wingeddragon']tempted? Maybe to smack the parents. If anyone ever did that to my son they would not have a chance to do it to another child.[/quote]
+1
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']In the last 5,000 years, what percentage of parents haven't spanked their kids.[/QUOTE]

I would be curious to to see this and compare it to the percentage of screwballs we have wandering around now. :D

In all seriousness though in the post you quoted from me I'm referring more to real slapping(like that in the OP that so many on here who aren't even parents, like spoo, are condoning) than a quick spank on the butt. Although even a quick spank on the butt I don't see the need for, for the reasons I explained in my post above(things can be articulately explained verbally provided the parent/child isn't an idiot. And usually if the child is an idiot...well, the retard apple doesn't fall..etc) :D
 
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