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[quote name='Matt Young']Sucks that to get the achievements for creating 30 Endless Battle and Team Battle lobbies, people have to play. That's a lot of games. Damn you, Capcom![/QUOTE]

Wait, you mean you have to PLAY the game to get achievements? Imagine that!
 
[quote name='GuardianE']Endless Battle is essentially Player Match with lobbies. Since you can make the lobbies any size you want from 2-8 players, you can effectively make a player match by simply searching for or creating a 2 player lobby.[/QUOTE]

Ahh, I'll have to try that out. I haven't played in months, and I keep getting my ass handed to me; I was something like 2 for 15 last night.

Also, what's up with the new voice actors in this one. Some of them are fucking horrible.
 
[quote name='lolwut?']Ahh, I'll have to try that out. I haven't played in months, and I keep getting my ass handed to me; I was something like 2 for 15 last night.

Also, what's up with the new voice actors in this one. Some of them are fucking horrible.[/QUOTE]

I just make everyone who's East Asian speak Japanese...it makes it much easier on the ears and most of them sound a lot more authentic.
 
[quote name='Arikado']Wait, you mean you have to PLAY the game to get achievements? Imagine that![/QUOTE]

Do you realize how much time making and playing in 30 lobbies takes?

And the achievements in this game obviously aren't "made to be gotten in a weekend". This game has some of the most time-consuming achievements around.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']Do you realize how much time making and playing in 30 lobbies takes?

And the achievements in this game obviously aren't "made to be gotten in a weekend". This game has some of the most time-consuming achievements around.[/QUOTE]

You'll get that one long before you get all of the titles. :)
 
[quote name='lolwut?']Also, what's up with the new voice actors in this one. Some of them are fucking horrible.[/QUOTE]

I actually found that I liked the new voice actors more than the old voice actors. For the original cast, I have most of them set to Japanese. For the new voice actors, I still have T. Hawk, DeeJay, Juri, Hakan, and Cody set to English.

I really prefer Cody's English voice actor.

[quote name='Matt Young']Do you realize how much time making and playing in 30 lobbies takes?

And the achievements in this game obviously aren't "made to be gotten in a weekend". This game has some of the most time-consuming achievements around.[/QUOTE]

They're not so bad. If you have a friend that you want to play matches against, just switch off hosting a lobby to play a game. It does take a while, but you'll get it eventually, and have fun while doing it.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']You can do the 30 Team Lobby ones alongside Quarter Up if you set Arcade Request to on.[/QUOTE]

If you set Arcade Request on, you're just as likely to be the challenger as you are the host, from what I've seen. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but I know that's the case for Ranked Arcade Request.

EDIT: BTW, the fact that Ryu's EX-SRK snuffs Ken's EX-SRK when performed at the same time is complete BS. I thought they improved the invincibility on that sucker. I was raging last night.
 
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[quote name='GuardianE']
EDIT: BTW, the fact that Ryu's EX-SRK snuffs Ken's EX-SRK when performed at the same time is complete BS. I thought they improved the invincibility on that sucker. I was raging last night.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was Ken's HP-SRK that got more invicibility? AFAIK the EX has the same amount of invincibility as it did in vanilla, which is still decent.

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I haven't really done a lot of Team battles but I started a team battle on accident as a 1v1 match & it popped the achievement for win a match and your team wins.

I'm totally down for a CAG Team battle. I vote we stick with the rule that each team has to have different characters. IE: Sagat/Ken/Ryu is ok but not Ken/Ken/Ryu.
 
[quote name='MtlTom']I thought it was Ken's HP-SRK that got more invicibility? AFAIK the EX has the same amount of invincibility as it did in vanilla, which is still decent.

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I haven't really done a lot of Team battles but I started a team battle on accident as a 1v1 match & it popped the achievement for win a match and your team wins.

I'm totally down for a CAG Team battle. I vote we stick with the rule that each team has to have different characters. IE: Sagat/Ken/Ryu is ok but not Ken/Ken/Ryu.[/QUOTE]

I read that they'd improved the invincibility on Ken's Fierce SRK, but I guess I assumed it would apply to his EX also. It seems unlikely that using the Fierce SRK, as opposed to an EX-SRK, would have given me the win in that scenario. I was playing a Ryu last night and we were both down to chip death. He knocks me down, and we both do simultaneous EX-SRK's right next to each other. His hits me at the very tip top for the K.O. :bomb: I guess it still bothers me that Ryu technically still has a better SRK in this game.

CAG Team Battles would be fun. I guess we'd have to divide up mains depending on whose team we're on. I think there are a few Ken's and Cammy's but not a whole lot of overlap otherwise.
 
[quote name='Morphx2']I shall defeat you once again Guardian![/QUOTE]

Bu... what if we're on the same team?

:) Challenges welcome anytime.
 
[quote name='bs000']Rage kick is the new rage quit[/QUOTE]

I've been creating 2 man lobbies in Endless and quitting after one match so I can create another (for the achievement). I always wonder if they think I'm rage quitting. I've had some people follow me to my next lobby. :lol:
 
[quote name='GuardianE']I read that they'd improved the invincibility on Ken's Fierce SRK, but I guess I assumed it would apply to his EX also. It seems unlikely that using the Fierce SRK, as opposed to an EX-SRK, would have given me the win in that scenario. I was playing a Ryu last night and we were both down to chip death. He knocks me down, and we both do simultaneous EX-SRK's right next to each other. His hits me at the very tip top for the K.O. :bomb: I guess it still bothers me that Ryu technically still has a better SRK in this game.

CAG Team Battles would be fun. I guess we'd have to divide up mains depending on whose team we're on. I think there are a few Ken's and Cammy's but not a whole lot of overlap otherwise.[/QUOTE]
These are notes according to the frame data on Eventhubs...

Ken:
HP SRK: 1~4f invincible, 5~6f cannot be thrown, 5~18 lower body invincibility, Pursuit Property, 1st-2nd hit cancellable, (???)

EX SRK: 1~11f invincible, 12-18f lower body invincibility, Pursuit Property, 1st-2nd hit cancellable

Ryu:
HP SRK: 1~4f invincible, 5~16f lower body invincibility

EX SRK: 1~16f invincible, 2nd hit (???), 1st hit cancellable

It also looks like Ken's EX has a 4 frame startup vs Ryu's 3 frame. I've got nothing for ya....

CAG has too many Ken players, just sayin :lol:.

[quote name='A Happy Panda']When is the CAG night for this?[/QUOTE]
There's always people on the CAG list willing to play (I got in some games yesterday afternoon) but I know I've been getting games going Wed night.
 
[quote name='MtlTom']These are notes according to the frame data on Eventhubs...

SRK comparison

CAG has too many Ken players, just sayin :lol:.
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Thanks for the frame data. It looks like Ryu has full invincibility through 16 frames of his EXSRK vs. Ken's 11 frames... He could've hit something on my hitbox at frame 12 for the win. I dunno. I'll check out the replay. It still got me mad though. We both sailed up into the air, flashing yellow all the way to the peak, and then I saw K.O. I was like, "Whhaaaaaa....?" :lol: Granted, he could've just chipped me to death from a distance with a fireball since he got first knockdown, but still.

I think there are three or four of us Ken players. bs000 uses a mean Rufus/Cody too. I can switch up with Guile or Juri. We can make a non-boring team if we have to. :p
 
[quote name='GuardianE']I've been creating 2 man lobbies in Endless and quitting after one match so I can create another (for the achievement). I always wonder if they think I'm rage quitting. I've had some people follow me to my next lobby. :lol:[/QUOTE] So we're going to do this later on tonight then? J/k.

[quote name='A Happy Panda']When is the CAG night for this?[/QUOTE]I believe there have been 2 Wed. Night fight-nights, around 9 pm EST, but I've missed both as that's my daughter's bath and bedtime. Sounds like there was a really good turn-out this past. Wed. I'll see if I can get my wife to give me the night off so I can join up this upcoming Wed. I really want to see that good Makoto in action and get some tips (she's been de-ranking me when I play as her).

I'll be on later tonight if anyone's up for some games.
 
Rufus was near top last game...ex messiah into ultra + relentless rushdown w/ dive kicks chain or throw mixup.

Chunkster being top tier i assume is for her special engine 2?

can someone explain to me the difference in online play from sf4 and ssf4, I know cp, gp, all those points and champ ranking doesn't carry over. But atm only modes I got in sf4 are Ranked, Player, and Championship. Is there a link describing the differences & what is this Tournament Mode all about. Thanks!
 
I know Rufus is definitely near the top, but he hasn't been improved at all. Abel's new ultra is definitely a huge improvement I must say.

Chun Li was always a bitch to deal with in the right hands. Her new ultra is definitely easier to land and almost impossible to jump over
 
[quote name='MtlTom']First tier list. I dunno how I feel about a lot of the placements (Rufus?!) but then again, the game is still young.

http://iplaywinner.com/news/2010/5/13/iplaywinner-may-2010-super-street-fighter-4-tier-list.html

Discuss....[/QUOTE]

I think it's still way too early, but Rufus is easily a contender for top tier. He didn't get the extra nerfing that the uber tier got in SFIV (Ryu, Sagat), and retains most of his tools. They gave him slightly reduced health, and FIXED his EX-Snake Strike (Capcom admitted the damage output was a mistake). Considering he was a speedy tank in the first one, slightly reduced health really makes things better.

I predict that Cammy and Rose (especially Rose, since the tier list has her in last tier) will eventually move up. I'm also not sure why Fei Long is C-tier. So far, the general consensus is that the game seems really balanced... there's not so much of a disconnect between A-tier and D-tier... and there's no Sagat-Tier anymore.

[quote name='wjhard63']So we're going to do this later on tonight then? J/k.[/QUOTE]

Heheh, I'm totally down for switching these off tomorrow (er, today) if you're free.
 
my win percentage as dan vs ken is 100%. as guile vs ken its like 25%

i like playing as dan. not to mention i pull off ultra finishers easier with dan.
 
losing connection to xbox live = loss of PP...... and quitting to the dashboard even if the match is over still loss of pp (never doing that again)

lost over 400 pp becuase of this (100 being fair)


and im getting sick of the shoto douch****ingbags. yea. keep doing your pathetic two moves over and over (hydo&shourken) think they have skill...
 
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wtf is this stop fucking using akuma and spamming the fireball

ive faced like 6 in a row AND ALL they done is fireball and fireball. when i finally get threw the fireball, they shourken me.









GOD, so lame
 
[quote name='bs000']Battlefield Arcadia XV is on noowww[/QUOTE]

Thanks, watching now!

What is up with Blanka's Ultra 2? It's ridiculous. It hits full screen.


[quote name='timesplitt']wtf is this stop fucking using akuma and spamming the fireball

ive faced like 6 in a row AND ALL they done is fireball and fireball. when i finally get threw the fireball, they shourken me.

GOD, so lame[/QUOTE]

Who are you using? You've gotta be patient and look for openings against runaway Akuma's.
 
It's really easy to avoid succumbing to that strategy, and I suck at fighting games. Just block the shoryuken when you get in close, or go for a low kick/SWEEP THE LEG!
 
I can't believe that of all the fighters I ever played and all the Custom Combos, Roll Cancelling, Magnetos, throw loops, infinites, and everything I've ever experienced, it's SF4 that makes me rage like none other.
 
[quote name='bs000']Battlefield Arcadia XV is on noowww[/QUOTE]

damn sanford might comeback from being down by 2 matches

that 4th match was epic, marn used an ultra and sakura(sanford) with limited health, came up with a billion combo attack and then dodged an uppercut from marn to finish him off...
ok sanford won yaaaaa.. crazy. i was getting annoyed with marns Dudley use!!

their combo'ing(sp?) is ***ed up, so many moves and hits
 
Sorta sad not seeing Sanford play Sagat...but his Sakura had some sick fadc cancels for some great punish damage. Cammy's mix up was pretty relentless with either low links into cannon spike/drill, quick cannon dive overhead or grab. For putting pressure on Cammy looked as good as or better than rufus x.x;
 
[quote name='GuardianE']Tier List Discussion[/QUOTE]

I know Rufus is up there, but it kind of surprised me he's on top (a side note - three of the consultants on the list are all Rufus players). I honestly thought that Akuma would take the top spot, Sagat would be right behind him, then so-on. I mean watching a few of Floe's matches at MWC this past weekend - it doesn't seem like Sagat is that much weaker.

Some of the stuff I expected (Dictator, Chun, Guile, and Abel all moving up), some I don't really agree with (expected Dudley, Guy, & a few other new comers to be a higher, T. Hawk to be lower).

It is what it is, but it honestly doesn't really affect who I'd play.

[quote name='timesplitt']wtf is this stop fucking using akuma and spamming the fireball

ive faced like 6 in a row AND ALL they done is fireball and fireball. when i finally get threw the fireball, they shourken me.
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If they're throwing fireballs then SRKing you it sounds like you might be jumping too much. It may seem like spamming but it sounds like zoning to me. Just like Guardian and Matt said - you have to play the match patiently. That's usually the case with most shotos, especially runaway Akumas.

PS: Try watching Sirlin's Tutorial to Super Turbo. Different game, I know, but most of this all still applies. They may seem a little basic but it's a good reference. Here's the first video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0cFs5mHQC4
 
Won 9 in a row ranked as the Hawk then lost. Then went 7 in a row before losing. Gah.

Did the same thing with Dan in SF4. Go figure. That 10 straight wins is pure luck unless your boosting it seems.
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']Won 9 in a row ranked as the Hawk then lost. Then went 7 in a row before losing. Gah.

Did the same thing with Dan in SF4. Go figure. That 10 straight wins is pure luck unless your boosting it seems.[/QUOTE]

You know.. the review on xbox360achievements.org said the same thing. I'm proud to say I got it without boosting. :]

The only achievements in this game that are really a pain in the ass are: watch 30 replays, play in 30 endless lobbies, play in 30 team matches... of and course getting all the trials/getting C rank with every character and getting all titles. :]
 
The 30 replays doesn't take too long, but the 30 lobbies... yeah. We should get a few guys together and take turns creating lobbies, fighting one match, and then letting another person create a lobby. Rinse, repeat.
 
Just play arcade mode with invite set to on, Matt. If people join your game it counts as a lobby, and you only have to fight them once.

[quote name='timesplitt']
and im getting sick of the shoto douch****ingbags. yea. keep doing your pathetic two moves over and over (hydo&shourken) think they have skill...[/QUOTE]

You're the one who doesn't have any skill. Quit complaining about basic tactics and your inability to defend against them. The people you're playing against want to win and it's not their fault if you're not good enough to figure out how to beat them.
 
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He didn't say he rage quit, or quit at all, during a match. He said, "even if the match is over". So he could have rage quit, but what he said doesn't state that he did for sure.

As for the lobbies, are you sure? Does it make it an Endless Battle lobby automatically? It has to be that. Also, that wouldn't work for Team Battle.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']You know.. the review on xbox360achievements.org said the same thing. I'm proud to say I got it without boosting. :]

The only achievements in this game that are really a pain in the ass are: watch 30 replays, play in 30 endless lobbies, play in 30 team matches... of and course getting all the trials/getting C rank with every character and getting all titles. :][/QUOTE]

Congrats.

The hardest thing for me outside of Trials and getting C with everyone is going through single player again. Why? Cause I already did in SF4, I don't feel like going through it again. Oh well, maybe I will since Zangief makes everything look easy ;)
 
Matt I don't think the arcade requests count as lobbies. I think they actually want you to personally create 30 lobbies and fight in them.
 
By "Yoga", I assume you mean Dhalsim. The only reason I am even mentioning it is because, in my sleep deprived state, I read it as "Sagat vs. Yoda" and, well, that would be badass.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFTvXXoDNRA&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx6Z5VGsBw4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXB8xHLA0To&
 
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