Supreme Court Overturns DC Handgun Ban

[quote name='dmaul1114']

But I'm going to bow out now as I'm tired of arguing criminology on my day off!! :D Plus no one is going to budge here. Gun lovers like you guys are going to always assert it's a good thing to carry them (and some that you should always use them to thwart a crime), and people like me aren't going to give up our view that guns in public are bad. So time to agree to disagree.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, probably smart to bow out as all bases are covered, I think.

But just remember, guns will always be in public no matter what the law is. It just comes down to deciding if we should of punish the good guys or not. You say yes, we say no.

So yes, agree to disagree.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Would resistance be advised if you had a Claymore mine strapped to your chest?

Robber: Hand over your wallet!

Me: Sure thing. Let me put my hands behind me.

Edit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M18A1_Claymore_Antipersonnel_Mine

Damn! They're cheaper than guns.[/QUOTE]


Hey good idea! Most cons on here would argue that the second amendment protects the right to walk around with a claymore strapped to your chest, which just shows how completely fucking ridiculous the argument is.

Of course thats if you ignore the fact that the right doesnt exist any more since a well regulated militia is no longer necessary.

Saturday an off duty cop in plain clothes in Pittsburgh was DUI and got into an argument with pedestrian who "eyeball fucked" him. He parked, got his service pistol, and tried to pistol whip the guy after tracking him down. Unfortuanetly for both parties, the gun accidentally discharged and shot the pedestrian.

Just another examples of why a handgun in every drunk asshole's hand is a BAD idea.

For every hundred or so of these stories, you might find ONE where a gun was used in SD. It simply doesnt add up.

Moreover, knowing a gun I own is more likely to be used against me than in my protection makes the decision super easy.

For a while, both cops and criminals would have guns. But just for a while. After a short time, it would be like England where neither cops nor criminals have guns. And THAT would be cool.
 
[quote name='pittpizza']Hey good idea! Most cons on here would argue that the second amendment protects the right to walk around with a claymore strapped to your chest, which just shows how completely fucking ridiculous the argument is.

Of course thats if you ignore the fact that the right doesnt exist any more since a well regulated militia is no longer necessary.
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Yes, but I'm being serious.

The valid argument dmaul makes is that a gun in the pocket is useless when somebody has a gun already aimed at the victim.

A claymore mine would be a deterrent to a robber. It doesn't require aiming. The clacker could be anywhere on a potential victim's body. The mine itself would be visible enough that a potential robber would look for easier prey.

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Granted, a full fledged claymore mine would be overkill. The projectile load should be halved. The explosive load should be quartered. Then, a robber would have to be at least 40 feet away to avoid being injured.

For safety and the reduction of property damage, the steel ball bearings could be replaced with rubber balls. Then, the robber isn't killed, but injured and near a very loud explosion.

The balls could have tracking devices imbedded that identifies the owner of the mine.

Also, the explosion could trigger a signal to a police-monitored frequency with GPS coordinates.

I doubt cost would be more than $100 considering a lethal and larger version of a claymore is less than $200.

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I disagree with the "we don't need militias because we have cops" argument.

If we had a well-regulated militia, we wouldn't need cops, a national guard or a standing army.

Then, anybody owning "armaments" would have to be part of a well-regulated militia or automatically be a criminal.
 
Oh god he's posting intoxicated again...

[quote name='pittpizza']Hey good idea! Most cons on here would argue that the second amendment protects the right to walk around with a claymore strapped to your chest, which just shows how completely fucking ridiculous the argument is. [/quote]

Are you serious? Really? You can automatically assume that anyone arguing for gun rights would obviously argue for claymore's etc too? That's like me assuming everyone with a degree in law has sound judgement and reason..... oh wait...

Your assumption train is completely off the rails now.

Saturday an off duty cop in plain clothes in Pittsburgh was DUI and got into an argument with pedestrian who "eyeball fucked" him. He parked, got his service pistol, and tried to pistol whip the guy after tracking him down. Unfortuanetly for both parties, the gun accidentally discharged and shot the pedestrian.

Just another examples of why a handgun in every drunk asshole's hand is a BAD idea.
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Oh? Kind of like... Um... Cars? Oh but since you think cars aren't designed for killing, it's not the same thing. :applause:

Just about anything can become evil, vile, or used to spread uninformed propaganda when used intoxicated. Just like your computer, apparently.

For every hundred or so of these stories, you might find ONE where a gun was used in SD. It simply doesnt add up.
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Source or stfu.

You need to believe that to justify your position. The fact is, as established in this thread already, there isn't enough evidence to support either side for that statement. Especially when you consider that most of the time a gun is used to defuse a situation without being fired, it goes unreported. (And that IS SD)

Moreover, knowing a gun I own is more likely to be used against me than in my protection makes the decision super easy.
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Source or gtfo. If you count suicide, maybe. And if you are referring to the claim by Doctors Aurthur Kellermann and Don Reay in 1986, that boat was shot full of holes and sunk many years ago.

For a while, both cops and criminals would have guns. But just for a while. After a short time, it would be like England where neither cops nor criminals have guns. And THAT would be cool.
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It was especially cool for Nazi Germany.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']I don't feel like registering, would you mind copy pasting it?[/QUOTE]

I think it's just the blurb, but I may be missing the link to something longer.

A judge upheld a gun ban at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, dealing a blow to gun rights groups who argued that a new state law authorized them to carry guns in parts of the airport. Judge Marvin Shoob of Federal District Court expressed concern that allowing guns at the airport could cause economic damage and be a “serious threat to public safety and welfare.”
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[quote name='thrustbucket']I don't feel like registering, would you mind copy pasting it?[/QUOTE]
My apologies for that. Saw it on the RSS feed, had no idea you needed registration.

[quote name='trq']I think it's just the blurb, but I may be missing the link to something longer.[/QUOTE]
I didn't see any more on the feed.

This little guy is going to hatch in a couple of years. It'll be interesting.
 
[quote name='pittpizza']Saturday an off duty cop in plain clothes in Pittsburgh was DUI and got into an argument with pedestrian who "eyeball fucked" him. He parked, got his service pistol, and tried to pistol whip the guy after tracking him down. Unfortuanetly for both parties, the gun accidentally discharged and shot the pedestrian.

Just another examples of why a handgun in every drunk asshole's hand is a BAD idea.[/quote]

Not that I need to respond, seeing as thrustbucket already nailed this post to the wall. But how does an act of violence by an abusive cop strengthen the anti gun rights arguement?
 
How Am I Supposed To Protect Myself If I Cant Wear A Claymore On My Chest While On An Airplane!!!?!? I Would Have Stopped 9 11 Then! If I Were Presedent Id Git R Done.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']How Am I Supposed To Protect Myself If I Cant Wear A Claymore On My Chest While On An Airplane!!!?!? I Would Have Stopped 9 11 Then! If I Were Presedent Id Git R Done.[/quote]

If everybody on those planes had been wearing the FOC brand (patent pending) personal claymores, there wouldn't have been any 9/11. Dozens of downed airplanes every year, but no 9/11.
 
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