Tea Party Protests on Tax Day

[quote name='HowStern']Another notable thing is that under Obama 90% of the countries taxes have actually gone down. So, despite maybe not liking what the taxes are being spent on most everybody is paying less of them. Only about 10% of the country is seeing their taxes raised, paddle.

And I highly doubt some guy with a picture of Obama dressed as Hitler who clearly doesn't know what a "fascist" is makes $250k a year.[/quote]

Dude, I voted for Obama. The tea party is a culmination of all the negativity over the last 2 years.

On a side note, what do you think the changes are that the guy being interviewed is an Obama supporter?
 
[quote name='HowStern']Another notable thing is that under Obama 90% of the countries taxes have actually gone down. So, despite maybe not liking what the taxes are being spent on most everybody is paying less of them. Only about 10% of the country is seeing their taxes raised, paddle.
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Quite true, and the best part is no matter how much money the Govt spends and goes into debt, taxes will never have to go up, because all we have to do is print more money. And if for some crazy reason the people who own our debt lose faith in our ability to actually pay them with money that has any value, well we can always just tax the rich even more. That way we'll both demonize and depend even more on a shrinking commodity.

And if that doesn't work out(how could it possibly not?) well then maybe we can resort to plan B, eat the rich. If they aren't good for paying for the intellectually challenged's needs, then what else are they good for?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']bottom 95% of income earners = intellectually challenged.

And *I* get called out for pithy arguments.

Ha.[/quote]
I'm glad to see our education system is churning out high quality subjects.
95+10=100?
Being that you are typing this from a computer, couldn't you atleast use the calculator built into your computer?

Back to the topic. The point that seems to be completely lost by many here is that the anger isn't that people's taxes are going up any percentage this year. It's that under the current plan of spend like drunken sailors, taxes will have to go up, and by large amounts. Even if we were just stuck with the drunken spending of Bush, we'd be in this boat. With the current administration, the problem has become far worse.
For those that care to read it:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/15/walker.tax.debt/index.html
 
I don't think you know the rules here. You only get to be a bastard if you're correct.

And you're being a bastard, but not correct.

Your taxes went up under Obama if you earn over $157K per year. That is the lower threshold for the top 5% of income earning households in the US. Thus, 90%.

Talk to HowStern about where his #s come from. Me? Mine from the US Census. Maybe you're familiar with it. I hear it's a pretty reliable source.

And we're $10 Trillion in debt coming into Obama. You fuckers have shown up to the party, but the party's already over. I've been saying this for over a decade and a half now: our debt is going to fuck us over. I believe we're well past the point of no return. And I don't have much interest in those who are lamenting our current state of affairs, because they were fine with it up until now.

Fair-weather economic doomsayers. We've been keeping it real while y'all supply-side knuckleheads were thinking we can grow the economy to pay off our debts.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I don't think you know the rules here. You only get to be a bastard if you're correct.

And you're being a bastard, but not correct.

Your taxes went up under Obama if you earn over $157K per year. That is the lower threshold for the top 5% of income earning households in the US. Thus, 90%.

Talk to HowStern about where his #s come from. Me? Mine from the US Census. Maybe you're familiar with it. I hear it's a pretty reliable source.

And we're $10 Trillion in debt coming into Obama. You fuckers have shown up to the party, but the party's already over. I've been saying this for over a decade and a half now: our debt is going to fuck us over. I believe we're well past the point of no return. And I don't have much interest in those who are lamenting our current state of affairs, because they were fine with it up until now.

Fair-weather economic doomsayers. We've been keeping it real while y'all supply-side knuckleheads were thinking we can grow the economy to pay off our debts.[/quote]


:lol::lol::lol:


Myke,

Posts like this forum a daily read for me. I have learned a lot from the links provided by intelligent CAG members. Spending has been an issue for 30 years, which is why I talked about the overreaction of the media to certain happenings in the market. It was like they woke up and decided they were going to tell the general public about every negative story and situation created by debt financing. Debt is so misunderstand by most Americans.

I was lucky enough to have parents who put 5-10K a month on credit cards, yet haven't paid a dime of interest in the last 35 years. I also had relatives who are horrible at budgeting and could see the problems of massive debt.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']I just mean that what they seem to be protesting (which seems like different things for each person) is not what the colonists were protesting when they threw the tea into Boston Harbor. We aren't being taxed by some other country's government.[/QUOTE]

Uh, they weren't either. ;)
 
[quote name='rickonker']Uh, they weren't either. ;)[/quote]

They were taxed by a government in another country. They just happened to be the country's property.
 
[quote name='deathscythehe']Here is some additional video from the mockery of journalism perpetrated by the CNN "journalist" at the Chicago Tea Party. This was taken after she stopped shooting by people in the protest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd2tg8gxCDU[/QUOTE]

That video was awesome. It illustrates just about all there is to know that's actually newsworthy concerning the tea party's.

CNN is slipping worse than I thought. Normally I'd find it amusing but I know just how many people think CNN is a "safe" news source.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']They were taxed by a government in another country. They just happened to be the country's property.[/QUOTE]

That's really stretching it.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']Honestly, i don't think the average american would be quite as successful as Iraqi insurgents have been. Playing COD4 every day doesn't really prepare you to overthrow your government,.[/QUOTE]

That's not what Jack Thompson told us though.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
And we're $10 Trillion in debt coming into Obama. You fuckers have shown up to the party, but the party's already over. I've been saying this for over a decade and a half now: our debt is going to fuck us over. I believe we're well past the point of no return. And I don't have much interest in those who are lamenting our current state of affairs, because they were fine with it up until now.[/QUOTE]

What!? you've given up hope? What about change? This is the ron paul obama revolution. Obama and ilk are the greatest collaboration of minds ever. Surely, They can reverse the trend.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']If CoD 4 is a indicative of how I'd handle armed conflict, I'll be skipping the revolution.[/QUOTE]

Even if it's not televised?
 
[quote name='willardhaven']Myke covered it in his first post... but "tea-bagging" is fun to say.[/QUOTE]

Except he was wrong in his assumption that the rally's purposes were to protest obama, even if some obama protesters there.

They were protesting the general upward trend in ALL of government from BOTH parties to spend our way out of problems.

Those that think it was all about being anti obama or anti obama's stimulus package aren't too informed.
 
[quote name='rickonker']That's really stretching it.[/quote]

How is it a stretch?

Before the American Revolution, it was England and its colonies.

The head, shoulders and most of the body of the government was in England. England was and still is on another continent.

The colonies were English property in the way that Central and South America were property of Spain and Portugal during the same time period.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Except he was wrong in his assumption that the rally's purposes were to protest obama, even if some obama protesters there.

They were protesting the general upward trend in ALL of government from BOTH parties to spend our way out of problems.

Those that think it was all about being anti obama or anti obama's stimulus package aren't too informed.[/quote]

I think most of them(like the CNN reporter) know damn well that this isn't an anti obama/democrat issue. She walked right in front of a sign saying "The Republicans SUCK TOO!", yet she felt the need to still say this is just an anti Obama rally. But if they actually admit that, then they lose most of their talking points(ie "But what about Bush blah blah blah")

You've already seen what happens when they can't use the republican talking points. They just make crude sexual references and laugh at how funny they are. They have no counter argument. It's also rather ironic, given how apparently while they're making these sexual references they're also highly concerned about the family content of the rallies, because apparently a guy talking about his issue with government spending with his child next to him is very innappropriate. He should instead be talking about sticking his balls in someone's mouth and giggling like a school girl.

If there's any party/parties that this protest is supported by, it's the Libretarian and Constitution parties. I doubt anyone outside of those who are being spoonfed by absurdly biased new broadcasts actually thinks these are Republican organized events.
 
I saw a group even here in our small town.. no more taxes.. honk if you like freedom.. rebel flag.. ugh. Mine seemed far more anti Obama and democrat then libertarian and non partisan.

It makes me laugh to try to see the neo-conservative groups all try to take this as their own when if I'm right it was started by the more libertarian wing of the party (Ron Paul types that were laughed at during their debates).
 
[quote name='deathscythehe'] I doubt anyone outside of those who are being spoonfed by absurdly biased new broadcasts actually thinks these are Republican organized events.[/QUOTE]

People say these are Republican organized events because they are in fact organized by Republicans (FOX News, think tanks etc.) to a large degree. It wasn't all Republicans a small bit was genuinely grassroots and Stormfront was also geared up for the rallies but the whole thing was certainly more anti-obama than not.

There were more signs saying Obama wasn't a natural born citizen then there were signs trying to assign "equal" blame.

"But what about Bush blah blah blah"
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Asking someone why they weren't protesting government waste and the deficit before Obama is a perfectly valid question.

they just make crude sexual references
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They picked a crappy name that had already been taken by "the sexual reference", it is hardly anyone elses fault that those who are part of this movement suck at naming things as much as they suck at coherency.
 
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[quote name='Msut77']People say these are Republican organized events because they are in fact organized by Republicans (FOX News, think tanks etc.) to a large degree. It wasn't all Republicans a small bit was genuinely grassroots and Stormfront was also geared up for the rallies but the whole thing was certainly more anti-obama than not.

There were more signs saying Obama wasn't a natural born citizen then there were signs trying to assign "equal" blame.



Asking someone why they weren't protesting government waste and the deficit before Obama is a perfectly valid question.



They picked a crappy name that had already been taken by "the sexual reference", it is hardly anyone elses fault that those who are part of this movement suck at naming things as much as they suck at coherency.[/quote]


Msut, you make a great point. I am amazed at how the GOP has been able to keep the fiscally conservative label over the last 25 years.
 
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[quote name='Msut77']
There were more signs saying Obama wasn't a natural born citizen then there were signs trying to assign "equal" blame.
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Really? Care to give me some concrete examples? Which rally was this that you were at? The one in Fantasy land?
At the rally I went to this Saturday, I saw one idiot with an obama has no birth certificate sign, and atleast 50 about taxes/govt spending signs. Another thing you glibly ignore is the fact that the majority of people at these rallies HAVE NO SIGNS.

[quote name='Msut77']
Asking someone why they weren't protesting government waste and the deficit before Obama is a perfectly valid question.
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If you watched the video I posted in another threat about taxes, you'd see that the question has already been answered. We want to throw them all out, and we weren't dancing in the streets supporting Bush back when he was doing it either. Bush didn't have an 80% approval among true conservatives, amazingly enough. This isn't a Democrat/left issue. The Republicans and Democrats are both to blame for it, and they all need their asses kicked out.

[quote name='Msut77']
They picked a crappy name that had already been taken by "the sexual reference", it is hardly anyone elses fault that those who are part of this movement suck at naming things as much as they suck at coherency.
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Now this is the one point you're right on with. Those idiots revolutionaries back in 1773 picked a product that would in the 20th century have a term referring to a sexual act. What a bunch of morons. It's totally not the fault of "unbiased journalists" to demean a group of people because they disagree with their views with a term that is a sexual act. It's now the job of journalists apparently to tell the masses what they are and are not allowed to think, not to report the facts.
But then again your one of the proud achievements of the education system we have in this country. Why should you have heard of the Boston Tea Party. Clearly if you heard people were having a tea party protest, you should think it means they're all going to have a sexual orgy.

Is this seriously the best you guys have to offer? You're making my point fairly well, that all you can do to counter our points is to make vulgar statements and laugh at how funny you aren't.
 
[quote name='Msut77']
There were more signs saying Obama wasn't a natural born citizen then there were signs trying to assign "equal" blame.

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Look at the gallery below. Tell me how many anti Obama signs you see. Then tell me how many you see about taxes/debt/the govt in general?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-090415-tea-party-taxes-pg,0,3153993.photogallery

I couldn't read most of the ones in the wide shot, so I left them out. But going on the closeups, I saw 3 anti obama(None amazingly enough about his birth certificate) and 33 for everything else. Definitely very leaning towards anti Obama sentiment, isn't it?
You can't trust them though, since it's the right wing political machine that is the Chicago Tribune reporting it. Those pictures must have been photoshopped.
 
There were about 5-6 anti Obama signs and ZERO shots at the GOP. So yeah, there was a tilt.

and for the dips saying "Throw the bums out". We just had an election 5 months ago. We get then pretty regularly around here.
 
[quote name='deathscythehe']Care to give me some concrete examples?[/QUOTE]

I can get you several dozen pictures of people pushing that garbage (who are hardly abnormal among cons and republicans) taken by those who were there, but what do you consider concrete?

Your word?

weren't dancing in the streets supporting Bush back when he was doing it either.
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Moving the goalposts much? The point is there weren't protests, you think it is some coincidence FOX all the sudden got interested as well? Get a clue.

Bush didn't have an 80% approval among true conservatives
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I don't care whatever personal and presumably otherwordly definition you have for "true conservative" conservatives supported almost literally every single thing Bush did until recently when they finally figured out Bush was electoral poison. No one buys your "Bush who?" idiocy.

Those idiots revolutionaries back in 1773 picked a product that...
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They didn't have teabags in 1773.
 
[quote name='Msut77']I can get you several dozen pictures of people pushing that garbage (who are hardly abnormal among cons and republicans) taken by those who were there, but what do you consider concrete?
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Put up or shutup.
And what about the Chicago rally I showed you? Is that one just made up?

And as for teabags, these were called Tea Party protests. You idiots came up with calling people at them teabaggers. So now your logic is that if someone makes up a name against someone else, the victim is at fault?

I'm not wasting my time debating you. You have no counters. You have your talking points and you're sticking to them, regardless of any facts put in your face.

[quote name='usickenme']
There were about 5-6 anti Obama signs and ZERO shots at the GOP. So yeah, there was a tilt.
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So 5-6 anti obama, and atleast 33 (since I'm assuming you got the others from the wideshot so that number is even higher there) not. Explain how this is a majority against Obama? I'm not big with all those math things, but that sure sounds like to me a majority of people carrying signs are against this entire govt. I guess I was wrong about 95+10=105 before, so I guess I'm just an idiot.
 
[quote name='deathscythehe']And what about the Chicago rally I showed you? Is that one just made up?[/QUOTE]

That would be the one where you shot yourself in the foot.

You idiots came up with calling people at them teabaggers.
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I heard teabag etc. used as a verb by cons before others took off and ran with it.
 
[quote name='deathscythehe']

So 5-6 anti obama, and atleast 33 (since I'm assuming you got the others from the wideshot so that number is even higher there) not. Explain how this is a majority against Obama? I'm not big with all those math things, but that sure sounds like to me a majority of people carrying signs are against this entire govt. I guess I was wrong about 95+10=105 before, so I guess I'm just an idiot.[/QUOTE]

Who said majority besides you? I said there was an anti Obama tilt and 5 signs in 26 pictures. I am not saying everyone there was against our Prez but a sizable percentage was.(I would guess 10%). To pretend they don't exist or don't really count is lame.

and I'll bet there was an anti-Bush tilt at the rallies against the war. There is no point in being dishonest about it.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Hooray for unintentional NOFX references![/quote]
Oh, it was totally intentional.

Next time I fly to the third world, it won't be second class.
 
[quote name='Quillion']Oh, it was totally intentional.

Next time I fly to the third world, it won't be second class.[/quote]
Your avatar suddenly makes a lot more sense, Super Marxist Brother.
 
It's funny that people voted for McCain because they didn't know if Obama was US born. Yet it's wide known fact McCain WASN'T US born.

I'm sure there were some intelligent people protesting the right people for the right reasons somewhere. But anyone who thinks a guy who just loweredthe taxes for 95% of Americans (thank you Myke for correcting my very close yet approximate numbers) is at fault are probably at fault themselves for not paying attention to anything ever that's happened in the history of America.
 
[quote name='HowStern']It's funny that people voted for McCain because they didn't know if Obama was US born. Yet it's wide known fact McCain WASN'T US born. [/quote]

He was born to US citizens in the Panama Canal Zone while he father was serving in the Navy. He was born a US Citizen. The issue is "natural-born" US Citizen. The law is amiguous and the framers never went into detail on what they meant by natural born. Furthurmore, neither Congress or the Supreme Court has the balls to touch this one.
 
[quote name='paddlefoot']He was born to US citizens in the Panama Canal Zone while he father was serving in the Navy. He was born a US Citizen. The issue is "natural-born" US Citizen. The law is amiguous and the framers never went into detail on what they meant by natural born. Furthurmore, neither Congress or the Supreme Court has the balls to touch this one.[/quote]

Yeah it's a language of the law deal. But the real point I was trying to make is that I bet a lot of the people interviewed above are completely ignorant to any of it and couldn't tell you where McCain was born, meanwhile, they call into question Obama's birthplace despite his birth certificate being published far and wide.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']How is it a stretch?

Before the American Revolution, it was England and its colonies.

The head, shoulders and most of the body of the government was in England. England was and still is on another continent.

The colonies were English property in the way that Central and South America were property of Spain and Portugal during the same time period.[/QUOTE]

I mean it's a stretch to imply there's a significant difference.
 
[quote name='usickenme']There were about 5-6 anti Obama signs and ZERO shots at the GOP. So yeah, there was a tilt.
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You clearly didn't watch the video posted in this thread.
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Most Americans did not support the last stimulus package, yet look at how many in congress voted for it. What's taxation without representation again?
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']You clearly didn't watch the video posted in this thread.
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Most Americans did not support the last stimulus package, yet look at how many in congress voted for it. What's taxation without representation again?[/QUOTE]


Hey thrust, they were still represented. Aren't the representatives supposed to know better than their constituents? ;)
 
[quote name='rickonker']Hey thrust, they were still represented. Aren't the representatives supposed to know better than their constituents? ;)[/QUOTE]

Yeah about as represented as we are by the court system. :roll:
Venezuelans and Cubans are represented just as well, by their 'elected' officials.

If you vote for me and I do everything the opposite of what you want me to do, I wouldn't say that you or your views are represented. More like bamboozled.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Yeah about as represented as we are by the court system. :roll:
Venezuelans and Cubans are represented just as well, by their 'elected' officials.

If you vote for me and I do everything the opposite of what you want me to do, I wouldn't say that you or your views are represented. More like bamboozled.[/QUOTE]
I'm just saying, that's how representative democracy works. You are considered to be represented whether or not your views are represented. There are literally billions of people who apparently believe this makes sense.

(I'm not one of them.)
 
It doesn't matter if these people protest because those in charge aren't going to listen anyway. I do like checking out the signs though. I thought that Alfred E. Obama sign was pretty cool. I'm a big MAD fan.
 
[quote name='Msut77']
I'll just leave this here.[/quote]

Oh christ, that was fucking hilarious! lool oh, man... I may start watching SNL again.
 
[quote name='rickonker']I mean it's a stretch to imply there's a significant difference.[/quote]

My only response is: "The calamari at Kobe would have tested better with lemon juice instead of Teriyaki sauce."

Since that isn't relevant, I guess I'm going to have to agree with you?
 
[quote name='deathscythehe']But then again your one of the proud achievements of the education system we have in this country.[/QUOTE]

Oh God.

[quote name='thrustbucket']Venezuelans and Cubans are represented just as well, by their 'elected' officials.[/QUOTE]

:lol: I'm pretty critical of Congress and the federal government in general, but give me a break.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Oh God.[/quote]

It hurts, it hurts.


:lol: I'm pretty critical of Congress and the federal government in general, but give me a break.
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Which part do you disagree with? That they are representatives, or that they are elected?
 
[quote name='rickonker']Which part do you disagree with? That they are representatives, or that they are elected?[/QUOTE]

The part when you said Cubans and Venezuelans are represented "as well" as we are by their "elected" representatives. I won't say we are represented well - we aren't - but that is ridiculous.
 
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