Team USA just got ROCKED by Italia
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Wow... just wow... this is pre-season, but does that count as an official Olympic loss for Team USA? Is it too late to send for reinforcements ie-KG, Shaq, T-Mac and friends? Larry Brown has to be banging his head against a wall right now, Italy isn't even a top ranked team.
Well, US best basketball players aren't patriotic enough to serve their own country, so they don't really count as US basketball players, they are businessman since they are more concern towards their own well being in NBA League and their pursuit for the so called "WORLD CHAMPIONS".
Ironically, when they face the real challenge to proof that they are the real world champions, they don't show up to perform.
They should be ashame of themselves!
Ironically, when they face the real challenge to proof that they are the real world champions, they don't show up to perform.
They should be ashame of themselves!
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not really suprised. Fundamentals are totally lacking from American basketball
[quote name='btantra']Well, US best basketball players aren't patriotic enough to serve their own country, so they don't really count as US basketball players, they are businessman since they are more concern towards their own well being in NBA League and their pursuit for the so called "WORLD CHAMPIONS".
Ironically, when they face the real challenge to proof that they are the real world champions, they don't show up to perform.
They should be ashame of themselves![/quote]
Um, it's only a game. It's not like they are in the military or anything. There's no shame in wanting to stay home for safety reasons or to spend the off season with family or whatever. I know I wouldn't go.
Ironically, when they face the real challenge to proof that they are the real world champions, they don't show up to perform.
They should be ashame of themselves![/quote]
Um, it's only a game. It's not like they are in the military or anything. There's no shame in wanting to stay home for safety reasons or to spend the off season with family or whatever. I know I wouldn't go.
[quote name='BigNick'][quote name='CaseyRyback']not really suprised. Fundamentals are totally lacking from American basketball[/quote]
I agree. %99 of NBA players are selfish babies.[/quote]
For sure, everyone wants to be the next mj but a lot of the player don't have his talent or commitment to the game.
I agree. %99 of NBA players are selfish babies.[/quote]
For sure, everyone wants to be the next mj but a lot of the player don't have his talent or commitment to the game.
[quote name='javeryh']Um, it's only a game. It's not like they are in the military or anything. There's no shame in wanting to stay home for safety reasons or to spend the off season with family or whatever. I know I wouldn't go.[/quote]
No, it's not only a game when it comes down to Millions of dollars. It's more than just a game and I am sure a lot of CAG agree with me on this one.
At least they shouldn't claim they won the world champion when they win the NBA title. Do you think the Detroit Pistons team can beat every team in the world? Maybe yes, and maybe not. Before it's proven, don't call yourself world champions.
No, it's not only a game when it comes down to Millions of dollars. It's more than just a game and I am sure a lot of CAG agree with me on this one.
At least they shouldn't claim they won the world champion when they win the NBA title. Do you think the Detroit Pistons team can beat every team in the world? Maybe yes, and maybe not. Before it's proven, don't call yourself world champions.
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[quote name='CaseyRyback']not really suprised. Fundamentals are totally lacking from American basketball[/quote]
Hopefully LB can get this thing going in time for the actual games.
Hopefully LB can get this thing going in time for the actual games.
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If we had sent our all stars like T-Mac, Kobe, KG, Shaq, Big Ben, Tim Duncan, Jason Kidd, and such we would have kicked like everyones asses
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[quote name='Zenithian Legend'][quote name='CaseyRyback']not really suprised. Fundamentals are totally lacking from American basketball[/quote]
Hopefully LB can get this thing going in time for the actual games.[/quote]
Yeah, the crap was already starting before the exhibition game against Puerto Rico. AI, Lebron and someone else were all benched for that game due to missing a team meeting.
Hopefully LB can get this thing going in time for the actual games.[/quote]
Yeah, the crap was already starting before the exhibition game against Puerto Rico. AI, Lebron and someone else were all benched for that game due to missing a team meeting.
Yeah, I just heard about it on ESPN radio while driving in my car to get some $.99 Wendy's. Disappointing. On the radio they said it's first time the U.S. has lost an exhibition game with NBA Players. With NBA Players on the Olympic team they said they have lost 4 of 73.
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[quote name='murcielago77']If we had sent our all stars like T-Mac, Kobe, KG, Shaq, Big Ben, Tim Duncan, Jason Kidd, and such we would have kicked like everyones asses[/quote]
We tried, but when all was said and done the only player that suited up was Tim Duncan. Ironic, because he's actually from the US Virgin Islands, who now have their own team, which Tim woefully regrets not being able to be a part of. In fact when the US had to play in the qualifying games, Tim sat out the game against VI, he just couldn't bring himself to play against his own countrymen.
We tried, but when all was said and done the only player that suited up was Tim Duncan. Ironic, because he's actually from the US Virgin Islands, who now have their own team, which Tim woefully regrets not being able to be a part of. In fact when the US had to play in the qualifying games, Tim sat out the game against VI, he just couldn't bring himself to play against his own countrymen.
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[quote name='btantra'][quote name='javeryh']Um, it's only a game. It's not like they are in the military or anything. There's no shame in wanting to stay home for safety reasons or to spend the off season with family or whatever. I know I wouldn't go.[/quote]
No, it's not only a game when it comes down to Millions of dollars. It's more than just a game and I am sure a lot of CAG agree with me on this one.
At least they shouldn't claim they won the world champion when they win the NBA title. Do you think the Detroit Pistons team can beat every team in the world? Maybe yes, and maybe not. Before it's proven, don't call yourself world champions.[/quote]
I hope you have the same sort of disdain for the other major sports professional leagues when it comes to calling themselves "world champs".
And by the way, what do mean "when it comes to millions of dollars"? The response "it's only a game" was regarding your patriotic comment about the players not reprsenting the US.
No, it's not only a game when it comes down to Millions of dollars. It's more than just a game and I am sure a lot of CAG agree with me on this one.
At least they shouldn't claim they won the world champion when they win the NBA title. Do you think the Detroit Pistons team can beat every team in the world? Maybe yes, and maybe not. Before it's proven, don't call yourself world champions.[/quote]
I hope you have the same sort of disdain for the other major sports professional leagues when it comes to calling themselves "world champs".
And by the way, what do mean "when it comes to millions of dollars"? The response "it's only a game" was regarding your patriotic comment about the players not reprsenting the US.
[quote name='murcielago77']If we had sent our all stars like T-Mac, Kobe, KG, Shaq, Big Ben, Tim Duncan, Jason Kidd, and such we would have kicked like everyones asses[/quote]
I just miss the day when MJ, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson were all play together in the Olympic team with great enthusiasm and patriotism. I have great respect for them, but not current players. They all just wanna be, but they don't really want to sacrifice their personal priorities
I just miss the day when MJ, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson were all play together in the Olympic team with great enthusiasm and patriotism. I have great respect for them, but not current players. They all just wanna be, but they don't really want to sacrifice their personal priorities
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Um, it's only a game. It's not like they are in the military or anything. There's no shame in wanting to stay home for safety reasons or to spend the off season with family or whatever. I know I wouldn't go.[/quote]
Seriously. I read an article this morning which quoted Odom as saying he wrote a will before he left. Kidding or not, its definitely a tense atmosphere for the players to be travelling in.
As for the game, that Vasilli was crazy. He had like 8 3's. I wonder how he'd do in the NBA. Watching this game it also made me wonder how Team USA players (besides Duncan) got by in the NBA; none of them could hold their own. I'm beginning to hate 'Melo... I haven't seen him pass at all, or actually attempt to help the team. Unless USA steps it up I think Serbia is going to win the gold (yes I know its only pre-season).
Um, it's only a game. It's not like they are in the military or anything. There's no shame in wanting to stay home for safety reasons or to spend the off season with family or whatever. I know I wouldn't go.[/quote]
Seriously. I read an article this morning which quoted Odom as saying he wrote a will before he left. Kidding or not, its definitely a tense atmosphere for the players to be travelling in.
As for the game, that Vasilli was crazy. He had like 8 3's. I wonder how he'd do in the NBA. Watching this game it also made me wonder how Team USA players (besides Duncan) got by in the NBA; none of them could hold their own. I'm beginning to hate 'Melo... I haven't seen him pass at all, or actually attempt to help the team. Unless USA steps it up I think Serbia is going to win the gold (yes I know its only pre-season).
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[quote name='btantra']
I just miss the day when MJ, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson were all play together in the Olympic team with great enthusiasm and patriotism. I have great respect for them, but not current players. They all just wanna be, but they don't really want to sacrifice their personal priorities[/quote]
It's safe to say though that the circumstances are a bit different this time around eh? When those guys went, there wasn't a terrorist attack on US soil recently. I think for most, it's about safety more than anything. Maybe that's a bit selfish, but most of us would probably do the same thing if put in that situation.
I do agree with you though, alot of NBA players are selfish.
I just miss the day when MJ, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson were all play together in the Olympic team with great enthusiasm and patriotism. I have great respect for them, but not current players. They all just wanna be, but they don't really want to sacrifice their personal priorities[/quote]
It's safe to say though that the circumstances are a bit different this time around eh? When those guys went, there wasn't a terrorist attack on US soil recently. I think for most, it's about safety more than anything. Maybe that's a bit selfish, but most of us would probably do the same thing if put in that situation.
I do agree with you though, alot of NBA players are selfish.
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Chill out or give me a break. Depending on what you attitude is? Can't tell from the type.
If you watched the game you could tell it was a total half asses attempt. If this was in the Olympics there could be some concern even then I would only be worried if it was after the first round. Also they haven't been playing together at all, give them a few games to mesh and when they start making an effort things will be different. Our lower end all-stars are still better then the other teams.
Chill out or give me a break. Depending on what you attitude is? Can't tell from the type.
If you watched the game you could tell it was a total half asses attempt. If this was in the Olympics there could be some concern even then I would only be worried if it was after the first round. Also they haven't been playing together at all, give them a few games to mesh and when they start making an effort things will be different. Our lower end all-stars are still better then the other teams.
Agree about fundamentals lacking. Seems like players are more about show-boating than just nailing their jump shots. There's a reason announcers always talk about the "lost art of the mid-range jumper" when every once in awhile somone knocks one down here.
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[quote name='sj41']If you guys watched the game and saw the travels being called on USA, you would've been screaming like me.[/quote]
The NBA should be renamed the Amtrack league cause everyone travels ridiculously. It is just that they stopped calling it consistantly in the NBA cause games would take 5 hours, but in other countries they call it correctly.
And you can say that this is preseason or whatever, but they still got rocked - if they continue at the pace they are going they may improve, but will still end up losing. You would think that our team had something to prove after getting humilated last time out, but I guess not.
The NBA should be renamed the Amtrack league cause everyone travels ridiculously. It is just that they stopped calling it consistantly in the NBA cause games would take 5 hours, but in other countries they call it correctly.
And you can say that this is preseason or whatever, but they still got rocked - if they continue at the pace they are going they may improve, but will still end up losing. You would think that our team had something to prove after getting humilated last time out, but I guess not.
[quote name='btantra'][quote name='javeryh']Um, it's only a game. It's not like they are in the military or anything. There's no shame in wanting to stay home for safety reasons or to spend the off season with family or whatever. I know I wouldn't go.[/quote]
No, it's not only a game when it comes down to Millions of dollars. It's more than just a game and I am sure a lot of CAG agree with me on this one.
At least they shouldn't claim they won the world champion when they win the NBA title. Do you think the Detroit Pistons team can beat every team in the world? Maybe yes, and maybe not. Before it's proven, don't call yourself world champions.[/quote]
Um, it's still just a game whether or not they get paid millions or play for free. Also, who gives a crap about being called world champions or what the rest of the world might think? So they might lose - who really cares? It's so unimportant...
No, it's not only a game when it comes down to Millions of dollars. It's more than just a game and I am sure a lot of CAG agree with me on this one.
At least they shouldn't claim they won the world champion when they win the NBA title. Do you think the Detroit Pistons team can beat every team in the world? Maybe yes, and maybe not. Before it's proven, don't call yourself world champions.[/quote]
Um, it's still just a game whether or not they get paid millions or play for free. Also, who gives a crap about being called world champions or what the rest of the world might think? So they might lose - who really cares? It's so unimportant...
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[quote name='btantra']I just miss the day when MJ, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson were all play together in the Olympic team with great enthusiasm and patriotism. I have great respect for them, but not current players. They all just wanna be, but they don't really want to sacrifice their personal priorities[/quote]
You have to keep in mind that for the original Dream Team, Jordan would only play if Isaih Thomas was excluded. Yes, they hated each other, but does that sound like patriotism on Jordan's part? Actually kinda childish. You can't be so naive to think that those old-school players all jumped in with their hands over their hearts and all singing the Star-Spangled Banner eager to go play for their country. I agree that a lot of pro players today don't play for the US team when the time comes, probably because many don't care for it. But keep in mind that it's a big committment to play. Also, they may have other reasons for not playing: weddings, families, moving, concern over safety, etc which I think are valid enough to choose not to participate. Another thing is, just because they're good at what they do, doesn't mean they have to play - it's voluntary. It's not like the old USSR. If they don't want to play, that only leaves a potential medal for someone who actually wants to win one; to me, that's better than someone playing who may not particularly care for it.
You have to keep in mind that for the original Dream Team, Jordan would only play if Isaih Thomas was excluded. Yes, they hated each other, but does that sound like patriotism on Jordan's part? Actually kinda childish. You can't be so naive to think that those old-school players all jumped in with their hands over their hearts and all singing the Star-Spangled Banner eager to go play for their country. I agree that a lot of pro players today don't play for the US team when the time comes, probably because many don't care for it. But keep in mind that it's a big committment to play. Also, they may have other reasons for not playing: weddings, families, moving, concern over safety, etc which I think are valid enough to choose not to participate. Another thing is, just because they're good at what they do, doesn't mean they have to play - it's voluntary. It's not like the old USSR. If they don't want to play, that only leaves a potential medal for someone who actually wants to win one; to me, that's better than someone playing who may not particularly care for it.
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"And you can say that this is preseason or whatever, but they still got rocked"
They did get a beat down. Not saying they didn't, just saying it doesn't matter.
It isn't anything to be overly concerned about. Now if they go out and get rocked in their next game then some concern maybe, but until they start losing in the Olympics themselves I don't think this matters at all.
They did get a beat down. Not saying they didn't, just saying it doesn't matter.
It isn't anything to be overly concerned about. Now if they go out and get rocked in their next game then some concern maybe, but until they start losing in the Olympics themselves I don't think this matters at all.
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[quote name='Steve Dave']"And you can say that this is preseason or whatever, but they still got rocked"
They did get a beat down. Not saying they didn't, just saying it doesn't matter.
It isn't anything to be overly concerned about. Now if they go out and get rocked in their next game then some concern maybe, but until they start losing in the Olympics themselves I don't think this matters at all.[/quote]
Also keep in mind that the legendary 92 Dream Team lost an exibition match to the developmental squad but they still went on to rock all competition after
They did get a beat down. Not saying they didn't, just saying it doesn't matter.
It isn't anything to be overly concerned about. Now if they go out and get rocked in their next game then some concern maybe, but until they start losing in the Olympics themselves I don't think this matters at all.[/quote]
Also keep in mind that the legendary 92 Dream Team lost an exibition match to the developmental squad but they still went on to rock all competition after
[quote name='javeryh']Um, it's still just a game whether or not they get paid millions or play for free. Also, who gives a crap about being called world champions or what the rest of the world might think? So they might lose - who really cares? It's so unimportant...[/quote]
Maybe it's just a game for you, but for a lot of people it is business, it is politics, and it is pride. I am just saying that it is arrogant to call yourself a world champions if you don't have a proof or even might be scared to proof it.
Look at European soccer, when they won their own country league, do they call themselves world champions? NO, they call themselves just champion. Then, they compete for European champion cup. After that, they will cross continent to challenge the best in American continent... then and only then they call themselves WORLD CHAMPION.
Maybe it's just a game for you, but for a lot of people it is business, it is politics, and it is pride. I am just saying that it is arrogant to call yourself a world champions if you don't have a proof or even might be scared to proof it.
Look at European soccer, when they won their own country league, do they call themselves world champions? NO, they call themselves just champion. Then, they compete for European champion cup. After that, they will cross continent to challenge the best in American continent... then and only then they call themselves WORLD CHAMPION.
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