That new Dixie Chicks song that bashes Bush is amazing

[quote name='chosen1s']That's really interesting. I was in Minneapolis during the elections and it was pretty much the opposite. There were several "good ole' American families" who went out with pro-Bush signs supporting the war, but mostly there was just anti-war hatred. On the eve of the election, the word "Vote for" was painted over so that pro-Bush families woke up to find "F*CK BUSH" in their front yards. People hung similar banners in the middle of the city and the anti-war protests were generally people with nasty signs who tried to disrupt businesses by blocking the doors, etc. It was very oppressive.

Are your rallies really that peaceful? That surprises me.[/QUOTE]

Retarded overgeneralization FTW!
 
[quote name='evanft']Retarded overgeneralization FTW![/QUOTE]

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[quote name='chosen1s']That's really interesting. I was in Minneapolis during the elections and it was pretty much the opposite. There were several "good ole' American families" who went out with pro-Bush signs supporting the war, but mostly there was just anti-war hatred. On the eve of the election, the word "Vote for" was painted over so that pro-Bush families woke up to find "F*CK BUSH" in their front yards. People hung similar banners in the middle of the city and the anti-war protests were generally people with nasty signs who tried to disrupt businesses by blocking the doors, etc. It was very oppressive.

Are your rallies really that peaceful? That surprises me.[/quote]

The ones in boston are like what camoor described. First there's the regular counter protestors. There's a guy covered in religious bumper stickers and he often walks around with a giant sandwich board around his neck. You can find him almost everyday if you know where to look, but he's a regular counter demonstrator at anything remotely liberal. Then there's a stereotypical preacher guy, the type they put in movies when they show them as slick, untrustworthy and hateful.

But the counter protests bring out the funny old men and drunk guys. I remember one guy was like 70 years old and he had plastered himself in bush bumper stickers. He was standing outside a university denouncing anyone he thought was a kerry supporter as traitors.

Then there was this guy who spit on a protestor, then punched him, then waddled drunkenly away when the cops threatened to arrest him. He then decided to moon the crowd/cops, but when the cops started going after him he took off. Though, just to point out, the guy who broke up the fight was also a counter protestor. He threw himself in the middle of the two people and pushed them apart. Nice guy, I spent a few minutes talking to him. He actually hated bush, but felt that protestors were harming the troops.

Another time a soldier was told to leave the area by police, since he was attempting to instigate protestors into attacking him.

Then there was the time about 5 bikers started revving their engines and pretended to break through a barrier that was set up by cops to block traffic temporarily and ram the protestors. That scared half the people in the crowd.

Usually if you go by a construction site the workers either all ignore you, all cheer you, or all start shouting traitor and waiving flags. It's strange, it's almost always uniform.

The last group is the norm though. The counter protestors typically are the fire and brimstone type. If it's an anti-war rally then they're traitors and terrorist supporters. If it's a same sex marriage/gay rights even then they're fags, sinners, damned to hell etc. The liberals tend to outnumber them and laugh at them more than anything else. They're viewed as comedy more than anything else, unless they actually become or threaten violence. Sometimes someone will debate with the counter protestors. That either results in A. nothing B. counter protestors making an ass out of themselves or C. a shouting match (rarely gets violent)
 
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I have witnessed the exact opposite. Maybe it has to do with what state you live in - the "counters" feel they have to make a fuss because they're outnumbered. I've never lived on the East Coast so it would be pretty irresponsible to try to refute any of that.

That's too bad though. It helps me understand why some people on the "other side" are so passionately against conservatives. Too bad the minority of us is giving the majority a bad rap.
 
[quote name='chosen1s']Are your rallies really that peaceful? That surprises me.[/quote]

Well it is DC. The city is no stranger to protests and knows how to handle crowds, the police are very no-nonsense, and the protests tend to be fairly well organized.

I always see some anarchists (you know, the all black clothes, bandana and sunglasses 15 year-olds) but they usually just mope about. The world bank protests were the closest to any violent protest action that this city got, but the only thing that really occured was that some luxury cars got keyed and two storefront windows were broken.

As for DC in general, the entire city is wall-to-wall wired with cameras and DC police are generally given carte blanche, we have 2AM curfews and anyone can be thrown in jail for any reason. Like all police states, this carries benefits for those who look like they belong and "have nothing to hide" (generally nice and quiet, safe in the right areas)
 
[quote name='camoor']Like all police states, this carries benefits for those who look like they belong and "have nothing to hide" (generally nice and quiet, safe in the right areas)[/quote]

You're absolutely right about appearances, they often direct the course of events if a police confrontation arises.

Though I always tend to be more of an observer than participant, taking photos and watching the dynamics of the group. At the DNC a cop told me to stop taking pics though, since I was taking pics of cops that were semi hidden, such as ones on tops of closed bridges that were surveying the area. I also got kicked out of a restricted area that I accidentally stumbled into, as I tend to get lost in the environment and just follow whatever catches my curiosity. Maybe they wouldn't have been as nice about it if I wasn't dressed decently.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Though I always tend to be more of an observer than participant, taking photos and watching the dynamics of the group. At the DNC a cop told me to stop taking pics though, since I was taking pics of cops that were semi hidden, such as ones on tops of closed bridges that were surveying the area. I also got kicked out of a restricted area that I accidentally stumbled into, as I tend to get lost in the environment and just follow whatever catches my curiosity. Maybe they wouldn't have been as nice about it if I wasn't dressed decently.[/quote]

I saw Dave Attell the other night talking about how often he was hastled in the midwest while shooting his TV series 'Insomnia'. As his crew would often go barhopping, he was apparently almost arrested a few times for being an Arabian-looking guy who was out walking around past midnight. I know that the guy boozes it up and probably has a tendency to get mouthy, but I still can't help thinking that a law-abiding Arabian-looking guy taking a midnight stroll without tv cameras around would have a much harder time if he ran into police.
 
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