The 2008-2009 NBA Season Thread

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[quote name='Soodmeg']You know, this is why I really dislike Lakers fans and not to bash anyone in this thread. They are seemingly the most 2 faced fans in the league. So easily they forget that during their 3 year run Shaq was allowed to do everything short of stabbing someone on the court. Hell the foul would most likely be called on the opposing player anyway.

They played well during those times but they were basically handed 3 championships when you let the most dominate big man in modern times shoulder charge and elbow everyone in his path on the way to traveling 4 times for a dunk.

In honestly Lakers fan should shut their mouths if the topic of officials ever comes up beacuse more than anyone your team has benefited the most from horrid refs.

And lets not forget this play in the Boston/Blazer game where the refes missed that the Blazers had 6 players on the court and still let the basket stand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9B5jQRiLYM[/quote]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUtf6-avo2c


Wow, this is why I really dislike the Boston Celtics. They have the most overrated fan base today and when there team loses they have an excuse to blame ticky tack fouls like when supposedly Ray Allen got fouled when the Celtics had last possession. Just take a look at last year.. What goes around comes around!
Just accept defeat Celtics fans. You guys lost 2 times in a row
 
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Right one cue a Lakers fan does exactly that. The number one way to shut up a lakers fan is to make reference to the fact that Shaq during their 3 year run was a walking mockery of the NBA rule book. I have brought this point up many times and each and every time a Lakers fan will completely ignore it.

Like I said I am not a Boston fan I can agree that Boston has the most overrated fan base....along with LA. I didnt watch all of your video as I have no idea what you were trying to show with it.

I am not a fan of any one basketball team and whether you like or dislike any team you should be taking notice at the officials around the ENTIRE league. I dont give a damn about the Celtics or the Lakers what I do care about is the decreasing amount of times the players are getting to decide games and how much face time Refs are getting.

This is one of the good things about not having a team to follow beacuse I am free to watch all games. I have seen the difference between a Hornets/Blazers game and a Cavs/Boston or a LA/Boston.

I care about the overall quality of the league itself not whether or not some team wins or loses. The truth is that more and more there are games being completely altered by the refs. I have seen it so bad as the refs taking a high tempo team like the suns and forcing them to slow it down with their calls.

You guys might brush it off now but I have been watching it increase for the last 5 years and I wasnt surpirsed at all with the Tim Donaghy thing and dont be surprised if we have something similar happen as well.
 
LMAO a Laker Fanboy has emerged with a Finals Video. Im sure the Lakers will get their revenge agains the Cs, this year no doubt, esp when Bynum comes back, unless of course they play the Magic in the Finals. Im a Heat Fan and I can attest to the Over-Rated/BandWagonish fanbase that is the Celtics and the Lakers fanbase, its disgusting really, but you knew it was going to happen when they are the best teams in their respective confrences, hell i remember in 06 when D.Wade was finals MVP and the heat won the finals, there was a lot of Heat bandwagonteers back in 06, now the fanbase have shrunk and those people with Heat tshirts on 3 years ago are now rocking a Lakers jersey.

I can understand not following a specific team in the NBA too many good players on too many good teams to just watch One team play week in and week out.
 
A writer made this point in the Boston Globe today. There were 3 NBA games that entire day. Why in the world did the NBA assign third tier referees to do their marquee matchup?

How about showing me a video of KG's 6th foul? Because the only thing I see is KG getting hacked.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']A writer made this point in the Boston Globe today. There were 3 NBA games that entire day. Why in the world did the NBA assign third tier referees to do their marquee matchup?

How about showing me a video of KG's 6th foul? Because the only thing I see is KG getting hacked.[/quote]

Sorry man, but you need to quit the bitchin'.

Wasn't the refs fault Kobe drained two killer 3's in Pierce's grill.

A lot of calls went both ways....Ray Allen missed a couple open 3's....

Shit happens...i'd still rank it Cavs/Celtics/Lakers
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']Sorry man, but you need to quit the bitchin'.

Wasn't the refs fault Kobe drained two killer 3's in Pierce's grill.

A lot of calls went both ways....Ray Allen missed a couple open 3's....

Shit happens...i'd still rank it Cavs/Celtics/Lakers[/QUOTE]
Kobe's life was made 10 times easier when KG fouled out on some bullshit call. And the same shit they were calling earlier, that got the Celtics into foul trouble, suddenly isn't a foul on the last shot of the game.

That said, losing a 1 point game in OT isn't what bothers me. The NBA assigned some suckass referees to their most important game of the month and predictably it was a close game all the way through.
 
[quote name='Dynasty1756']Wow, this is why I really dislike the Boston Celtics. They have the most overrated fan base today and when there team loses they have an excuse to blame ticky tack fouls like when supposedly Ray Allen got fouled when the Celtics had last possession. Just take a look at last year.. What goes around comes around!
Just accept defeat Celtics fans. You guys lost 2 times in a row[/QUOTE]

Game 6 of the 2002 WCF.

4th quarter FTs: LA 21-27 SAC 7-9

Again, after that, no lacker fan has ANY room to bitch and moan.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Kobe's life was made 10 times easier when KG fouled out on some bullshit call. And the same shit they were calling earlier, that got the Celtics into foul trouble, suddenly isn't a foul on the last shot of the game.

That said, losing a 1 point game in OT isn't what bothers me. The NBA assigned some suckass referees to their most important game of the month and predictably it was a close game all the way through.[/quote]

Fisher flopped on the final foul call but KG IMO shoulda fouled out earlier....he was killing Pau....

Doesn't help that the last shot in the 4th quarter by the Celtics was a horribly scripted play.

[quote name='oNeWiNgEdAnGeL']Game 6 of the 2002 WCF.

4th quarter FTs: LA 21-27 SAC 7-9

Again, after that, no lacker fan has ANY room to bitch and moan.[/quote]

And you...shut the fuck up about 2002....nobody gives a shit, really.
 
[quote name='Filbert']KG was going for the ball with one arm and pushing Fisher with the other. It was a foul.[/quote]

You conventional forgot to mention when Pau Gasol raked his entire forearm causing him to loose the ball in the first place. :roll:

This is one of the reason is almost hate discussions about sports, $$$$a see what they want to see and make excuses for everything.

Bottom line is this, if you are going to allow physically play than allow it but you cant look the other way when a person gets raked/clipped/foul/whatever the hell and in the very next breath call a foul for something equal or lesser than it. Especial when the foul you let slide was the exact reason why the the next set of actions occurred.

It was clear that Pau raked his arm (foul) causing KG to lose the ball it was also clear that KG hand checked fisher to get the ball back (foul).

If you are going to let a guy rake a arm to cause a turnover than you should allow that player to throw a hand out to protect from being a turnover.
 
[quote name='oNeWiNgEdAnGeL']Game 6 of the 2002 WCF.

4th quarter FTs: LA 21-27 SAC 7-9

Again, after that, no lacker fan has ANY room to bitch and moan.[/quote]
You brought this up during last years finals between the Lakers and Boston and now you bring it up again, and I'm pretty sure you've brought this up anywhere basketball has been mentioned, so shut up already.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']You conventional forgot to mention when Pau Gasol raked his entire forearm causing him to loose the ball in the first place. :roll:...[/quote]

When the refs "swallow" their whistles late in games it's usually to what a player does on the opponent they're guarding. In that respect the officials will turn a blind eye to two bigs playing physically. However, once another player, and a guard at that, are thrown into the mix, fouls will be called.

I'm not saying it's right. That's just how it's always seemed to me. Although you would have expected Boston to get the favorable calls, being home.
 
Hell, I'm a lifelong Lakers fan and I can admit that Shaq got away with a lot during his time there (and everywhere else). But then you'd have one of the league's marquee players fouling out in 5 minutes every game. And the league's best always get away with more, and calls are generally one-sided either way in any given game. One night the Celtics might get the calls, the next night it could be the Lakers.

And the officiating has gotten worse over the years in the effort to up scoring. I'd like to see fewer touch fouls being called as well as fouls called for bumping alongside someone. Let the game be physical. Let big men bang. Let perimiter players get up in their opponents' faces. If arms and heads are being slapped, call it, but don't call crap fouls at random.
 
[quote name='BigSpoonyBard']Hell, I'm a lifelong Lakers fan and I can admit that Shaq got away with a lot during his time there (and everywhere else). But then you'd have one of the league's marquee players fouling out in 5 minutes every game. And the league's best always get away with more, and calls are generally one-sided either way in any given game. One night the Celtics might get the calls, the next night it could be the Lakers.

And the officiating has gotten worse over the years in the effort to up scoring. I'd like to see fewer touch fouls being called as well as fouls called for bumping alongside someone. Let the game be physical. Let big men bang. Let perimiter players get up in their opponents' faces. If arms and heads are being slapped, call it, but don't call crap fouls at random.[/quote]


I like this guy, he gets it.
 
Good afternoon of basketball today. The Spurs showed some of their old defense down the stretch against the Celtics, and Lamar Odom delivered his one breakout game for the season with Kobe under the weather.
 
[quote name='BigSpoonyBard']Good afternoon of basketball today. The Spurs showed some of their old defense down the stretch against the Celtics, and Lamar Odom delivered his one breakout game for the season with Kobe under the weather.[/QUOTE]
Spurs definitely had more jump after 5 days off, Celtics played 2 games in that span including the Laker game. Still, they had the ball down by 2 with 20 seconds to go, when the ball slips out of Ray Allen's hands while he's trying to inbound it. Not the best ending for what was a close game throughout. I think the Celtics have played more games than anyone in the league.
 
They've all had the flu this week, KG had to miss a game. Ray Allen was a gametime decision, Pierce's knee is still a little banged up too.

They have an easier time missing one of the three than when they don't have Rondo or Perkins, the guys behind them are situational players. Perkins missed a good chunk of time with a shoulder injury, Brian Scalabrine was their starting center for a while until he got a concussion, but Perk came back.

They miss Posey, but they really, really miss the length of P.J. Brown. They couldn't guard Gasol at times.
 
Yea, they said the flu is going around the NBA right now, Kobe had an IV during the Cavs game to keep him in it.

If everything goes the way it is right now, I think we're looking at another Lakers/Celtics finals.
 
I'm kinda glad to see Vlad go. He's put up manageable numbers n all, but there's just something he doesn't have, I can't quite think of the word(s)...

To be honest, I haven't followed the NBA a lot this season since I keep tabs on the NFL first, so I have no idea what Morrison can bring.

The one person I want gone though is Luke Walton. Every game I've managed to see him play in just makes me want him out more and more. He can effectively bring down a Laker lead, drive in just to lose the ball, and miss A LOT of wide open jumpers.

Since the NFL season is officially over, I'll focus my attention on the NBA now ;)
 
I watched the LA / Cleveland game up until half-time. By the time I got home again, just before the end of the thrid quarter it was a completely different game. I don't know how, but the Cavs defense couldn't stop the Lakers' bigs and Cleveland stopped hitting shots.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']What do you make of this Vlad Rad for Adam Morrison thing?[/quote]

It's all about making a bit of cap space for the Lakers so they can re-sign some guys. I'm glad Radmonovic is gone. He was required to do three basic things: hit open jumpers, grab some boards, and play passable defense. He couldn't do any of them. Morrison and Brown won't get much playing time, since the Laker rotation is pretty set and Morrison is still trying to spell defense.
 
[quote name='Inf^Shini']I'm kinda glad to see Vlad go. He's put up manageable numbers n all, but there's just something he doesn't have, I can't quite think of the word(s)...

To be honest, I haven't followed the NBA a lot this season since I keep tabs on the NFL first, so I have no idea what Morrison can bring.

The one person I want gone though is Luke Walton. Every game I've managed to see him play in just makes me want him out more and more. He can effectively bring down a Laker lead, drive in just to lose the ball, and miss A LOT of wide open jumpers.

Since the NFL season is officially over, I'll focus my attention on the NBA now ;)[/quote]

dont forgot not being able to throw a ball in bounds without turning it over :lol:
 
The Lakers beat the top east team back to back. :cool:

Can someone please tag this thread with NBA. I would but I mysteriously got my tag abilities taken away.
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']And you...shut the fuck up about 2002....nobody gives a shit, really.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Inf^Shini']You brought this up during last years finals between the Lakers and Boston and now you bring it up again, and I'm pretty sure you've brought this up anywhere basketball has been mentioned, so shut up already.[/QUOTE]

I'll say whatever the fuck I want. That series was a tragedy and anytime I see laCker fans bash the officiating of any game, I'll mention it.
 
[quote name='yukine']Walton is useless.[/quote]

Luke Walton is a good passer. Other than that he would put in his 2 cents of points but when it comes to the Lakers playing good teams he's non existent. Wouldnt mind seeing luke go though.

Vlad was a good 3 pointer shooter but some of his basketball IQ abilities are so questionable.
 
[quote name='Inf^Shini']IMO Walton and Vlad are the Lakers two weakest players.

I think Luke is still there b/c his old man Bill was a Laker[/quote]

Bill was never a Laker. He was a Clipper for a while, but ended his career with the Celtics. Luke is still a Laker because his basketball IQ is very good, he understands the triangle very well, is a good passer, and hits some of his open shots. I don't mind having him on the team.
 
[quote name='BigSpoonyBard']Bill was never a Laker. He was a Clipper for a while, but ended his career with the Celtics. Luke is still a Laker because his basketball IQ is very good, he understands the triangle very well, is a good passer, and hits some of his open shots. I don't mind having him on the team.[/quote]
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Hmmm, I wonder who I was thinking of then :whistle2:k
 
That Celtics-Mavs game got heated. The Celtics probably don't come back from 15 down without being fired up like that, thanks Dirk.
 
I was VERY ecstatic to what my favorite player, Derrick Rose (Chicago Bulls) win the PlayStation Skills challenge at the All-Star break (Most CAGs know that I'm a big PlayStation and Bulls fan, put the two together and I'm beyond happy). :D

I watched it and Rose's dunk at the end rocked.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']I just got home in time for the dunk contest.

Did I miss the game of horse though?[/QUOTE]Well, Kevin Durant was down and came back at the very end. Very fun to watch.
 
fuck! That was the one thing I wanted to watch. I really dont even care about the dunk contest.

BAH!

Ahh well Sportcenter will play it about a thousand times anyway.
 
Man, dunk contest are always weak as hell.

Rudy Fernadez? Lame. Although that 2nd dunk he did would have been nice if it didnt take him 15 tries. Pretty pretty legit though.

J.R. Smith? Disappointment. Although the passing part of his 2nd dunk was decent but the actually dunk was weak.

Nate Robinson? What the hell was that with dunking off the back of someone? I didnt get that at all but hopefully he didnt hurt himself doing it because I seen him walk off the court.

D howard's first dunk shouldnt have got a 50 but it was still decent...the 12 ft rim dunk was sweet but I dont really get it beacuse he is 6' 10' Its still pretty sweet but when you are 6 10 its not that impressive.



EDIT: I take that back nate and D Howard are bringing the contest back.
 
I may be a bit jaded, but the judges seemed to go easy on Dwight Howard and be hard on the others.

:lol: @ Nate Robinson's Kryponite-colored jersey and shoes.

Edit: Lebron for the dunk contest next year? That would be nice compared to some of these second-rate choices.
 
It was from his theatrics of changing into his Superman gear in a phonebooth, which he didn't take off afterwards.

Dwight Howard only had 1 great dunk and 3 that were just good. Nate Robinson's had two great dunks in this final round.
 
Damn, that was a good dunk contest.

Dwight looked disappointed but he pretty much sealed his own fate when he let Nate dunk over him. But both did a damn good job.

Nate with the all green was just straight nice!

I wonder how many collective, "What the fuck is this?" was just let out from jocks when it went from NBA to Star Wars? Thats about as opposite as you can get.
 
Solid contest. Nate over Dwight was sick. Nothing big, nothing fancy. I do have to question the dunk Nate did when he used Chandler as a stair...

No super-unique dunks this year though-- and that makes those crazy fans furious.
 
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Without the theatrics these past couple years the dunk contest would be boring.
 
Last year's was definitely more entertaining, but Dwight's 12-foot dunk and Nate's over-Dwight dunk were pretty $$. Dwight's last definitely didn't wow as much as possible.
 
Was it just me or did the rim look like it was at 11 feet rather than 12?

Also, Robinson's dunks were all good except the one when he stepped on the guy's back. Now I missed Fernandez's second dunk and only saw the replay after he got it, but I thought he deserved (at that point) to advance over Nate.
 
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