The Decapitation of the american captive

[quote name='BasketCase1080'][quote name='iloveqtchickz']The sad thing is, you expect to see these kinds of things in a film. But it is really a wake up call of what we're up against.[/quote]

I cant think of ANY film that shows the blatant decapatation of someone.[/quote]

Oh, there are snuff films out there that show that kinda stuff. I've never seen them myself. But they're out there. I know of one infamous one called the "Guinea Pig" series out of Asia. Supposedly it had a very famous scene of a woman getting an eyeball extracted. Haven't seen it myself. And it is fake. But it looks so realistic that some people have been arrested for having the tape because police thought the murders were real.
 
I too would like to thank Reality's Fringe for voluntarily taking down the link. That was the right thing to do. Good work.
 
now, my next idea may be extreme, so dont take it personally.

those who tortured the prisoners should be held responsible for his death.

they should be charged with at least reckless endangerment, maybe even manslaughter, seeing as how their arctions directly caused the death of an innocent man.
 
Yea, and most people dont realize how bad it was that they used a knife to decapatate him. There are faster and more painless methods. They were making a statement here, and most likely bush will try to retaliate. The whole war is getting out of control and we must try to stop thngs like this from happening.
 
sneaky...those terrorists who did this would have done this either way....they would have just blamed it on something else....they would have blamed it on us taking saddam....or they would have just blamed it on the guy (nick berg) being jewish like they did with the wallstreet journal reporter that they killed in 2002 ( i believe), they killed him in the same way just because he was jewish (i read all of this in the new york post, if its not accurate, blame them)....the prisoners being humiliated just gave them a more recent issue to blame it on
 
[quote name='trustcompany1013']yeah psyclerk, whats your problem? just because i put a lot of .... in my posts means you have to be a dickhead about it?[/quote]

It's massively annoying to see "..." every other damn character. Learn to use some other punctuation. Try commas, single periods, there's quite a few you could use. Using "..." all the time makes you look like a tool.
 
well hey! my day is fucking awesome lets recap!

1st- i waited for like 5 hours to see the segaton announcement and guess what IT DIDNT HAPPEN

2nd- I dropped my brand new ipod mini in the toilet. yeah it seems funny, but lets see you just go ahead and flush 250 rite down the drain (get it?)

3rd- i saw the most in-humane, discusting thing ever. i am scarred for life. murder is fairly common in todays society, but this is by far the worst thing possible. to see something like this happen to someone is terrible. and to make matters worse, he was fighting for us. the lazy fucks here in america who are doing nothin, living life normally as if nothing is changed. sometimes people make me sick.

edit: stfu psyclerk. no one on the board wants to hear from you
 
maybe i am a tool, dickhead....using "." all the time may make you look like a tool as well....last time i checked, this wasn't a classroom, and you weren't my teacher....i am spelling shit right, and using "..." in the right nature...if you don't like how i type, please don't look at my posts....if you have to look at my posts, than please understand that you're not important enough for me to change for

;o)
 
so it is settled, we can all take it and we can remain on-subject

edit: i didnt think something that is seemingly so insignificant make such an impact on me. i have been like angry and upset tonight about this and i am never like this. sorry for any immaturity, im only 15 anyway
 
I found this amusing

[quote name='That article']It wasn't enough that they slaughtered the young Philadelphia businessman like a sheep and held his severed head aloft as if it were a trophy. No, they filmed the whole thing for the world to see.


Soldiers don't behave like that.


Only cowards and thugs do.[/quote]

Granted, the murder is 100x worse, but come on. Trying to say that the actual "filming" of the murder was any less dehumanizing than the pictures of the Iraqi prisoner abuse? *AGAIN, THE ACTUAL MURDER IS MUCH MUCH WORSE*. But saying that "Soldiers don't behave like that.", ie: they don't film their crimes against humanity? They already did!

*edit: added "the pictures of" to be more clear
 
So it took awhile to track this video down, after seeing it my first thought was really I hope to God his parents didn't actually watch that, I couldn't imagine seeing your child killed in such a manner.
 
seriously, what would you do if you were the parents? i don't think i could live any more, honestly. i would probably deeply consider suicide, until i realized that if im gonna die, i might as well just go and look for these thugs myself (most likely die trying)...most likely with no luck, but hey....what else do you have to live for?
 
This is going to spark a huge flame in the US as racism will fly. Just like Pearl Harbor, if these things continue to happen. Today my High school had the bloodiest fight i have ever seen. And as to no surprise one of them were of Middle Eastern decent. Blood was all over the lockers and halls, as they the kids head was smashed against the lockers repeatedly, then the fight was brought outside. It was about 3 minutes before anyone was able to break up the fight, but afterwords one of the guy's shirt was covered in blood and the other was rushed to the hostpital. And where the fight was taken place was sealed off until they could clean up. My point is, hatred is in the air, stronger now than ever before.
 
Im gonna play video games to get this outta my head. If only i had Drake, Bruce Lee, and Aquaman to play with...
 
[quote name='iloveqtchickz']This is going to spark a huge flame in the US as racism will fly. Just like Pearl Harbor, if these things continue to happen. Today my High school had the bloodiest fight i have ever seen. And as to no surprise one of them were of Middle Eastern decent. Blood was all over the lockers and halls, as they the kids head was smashed against the lockers repeatedly, then the fight was brought outside. It was about 3 minutes before anyone was able to break up the fight, but afterwords one of the guy's shirt was covered in blood and the other was rushed to the hostpital. And where the fight was taken place was sealed off until they could clean up. My point is, hatred is in the air, stronger now than ever before.[/quote]

hatered is always there with violent people. its like gasoline, any spark will set them off. really sad.
 
i live in lewiston maine. it made national news when a huge rumble between the locals and the 10000 some-od somali's moved in. It was not pretty. it hasnt gotten any better either.


edit: oh yeah this was in reference to the fight u were talking about. this shit happened when black hawk down came out. people were ripped.
 
[quote name='Renzokuken']Im gonna play video games to get this outta my head. If only i had Drake, Bruce Lee, and Aquaman to play with...[/quote]

i thought u wanted to get your mind off crimes against humanity? :wink:
 
[quote name='iloveqtchickz']This is going to spark a huge flame in the US as racism will fly. Just like Pearl Harbor, if these things continue to happen. Today my High school had the bloodiest fight i have ever seen. And as to no surprise one of them were of Middle Eastern decent. Blood was all over the lockers and halls, as they the kids head was smashed against the lockers repeatedly, then the fight was brought outside. It was about 3 minutes before anyone was able to break up the fight, but afterwords one of the guy's shirt was covered in blood and the other was rushed to the hostpital. And where the fight was taken place was sealed off until they could clean up. My point is, hatred is in the air, stronger now than ever before.[/quote]

who won? the only time a middle eastern kid got into a fight in my school (that i can recall) was when he was going around the school saying that we deserved what happened to us on 9/11 and that it made him laugh and was the best day of his life....needless to say, he got his ass kicked pretty quick (it was one on one...it wasnt me....and im still not racist)
 
[quote name='punqsux'][quote name='Renzokuken']Im gonna play video games to get this outta my head. If only i had Drake, Bruce Lee, and Aquaman to play with...[/quote]

i thought u wanted to get your mind off crimes against humanity? :wink:[/quote]

I need a crappy game to pour all my frustration and anger to. :D
 
I am not tryin to be a dick but any non military personal that goes over to Iraq has to realize that there life is on the line. Most of these non-military folk are mercenaries hired by these big companies to protect their financial interest. They are making the big bucks over there but the risk their is so great. These companies are sending men to their death for a profit. They should wait till things cool down before they start draining Iraq of its oil
 
Everyone should just kick back with a smooth drink and listen to "Gun Street Girl" by Tom Waits. It'll take your mind off everything, if only because it's so awesome.
 
[quote name='BasketCase1080']This proves there is evil in this world, an evil which should not be viewed by anyone.[/quote]

Wow. You seriously didn't know this for a fact before?
 
Heh, I'm so desensitized that the video doesn't effect me as much as the simple fact that an american was beheaded. The video was graphic, yes, but it didn't bother me in the least.
 
[quote name='evilmax17']I found this amusing

[quote name='That article']It wasn't enough that they slaughtered the young Philadelphia businessman like a sheep and held his severed head aloft as if it were a trophy. No, they filmed the whole thing for the world to see.


Soldiers don't behave like that.


Only cowards and thugs do.[/quote]

Granted, the murder is 100x worse, but come on. Trying to say that the actual "filming" of the murder was any less dehumanizing than the pictures of the Iraqi prisoner abuse? *AGAIN, THE ACTUAL MURDER IS MUCH MUCH WORSE*. But saying that "Soldiers don't behave like that.", ie: they don't film their crimes against humanity? They already did!

*edit: added "the pictures of" to be more clear[/quote]

I think the reporter was talking abou tthe beheading and holding it up like a trophy more than the filming of it all. And even if he wasn't the soldiers didn't release those photos to the world, the media made that possible. The terrorists proudly displayed their horrid act across the internet for everyone to see.
 
I don't know what to think...I haven't seen the video, and won't if I can control that. It's disgusting, but like Sneaky said at the beginning of the thread, we can't really be surprised at this point.

I'm just hoping that it doesn't happen again...
 
[quote name='BasketCase1080']I cant think of ANY film that shows the blatant decapatation of someone.[/quote]

I can think of two:

Showdown in Little Tokyo (1991) Dolph Lundgren,Brandon Lee,Tia Carrere.

Highlander (1986)
Christopher Lambert, Roxanne Hart, Sean Connery
(and sequels)

The first one is just a couple of frames of.. well.. neck.
The second one shows a head flying.
I made the mistake of watching it with a friend who was really disturbed by it. had to stop the playback for a few minutes.
 
[quote name='RichD1']Heh, I'm so desensitized that the video doesn't effect me as much as the simple fact that an american was beheaded. The video was graphic, yes, but it didn't bother me in the least.[/quote]

this would bother me equally if it happened to anyone of any nationallity. odds are it wouldnt get much coverage here tho
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']I am not tryin to be a dick but any non military personal that goes over to Iraq has to realize that there life is on the line. Most of these non-military folk are mercenaries hired by these big companies to protect their financial interest. They are making the big bucks over there but the risk their is so great. These companies are sending men to their death for a profit. They should wait till things cool down before they start draining Iraq of its oil[/quote]

Yes, because as a telecommmunications expert, I'm sure he was busy pumping oil out of Iraq.
 
[quote name='suprsaiyanMAX'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']I am not tryin to be a dick but any non military personal that goes over to Iraq has to realize that there life is on the line. Most of these non-military folk are mercenaries hired by these big companies to protect their financial interest. They are making the big bucks over there but the risk their is so great. These companies are sending men to their death for a profit. They should wait till things cool down before they start draining Iraq of its oil[/quote]

Yes, because as a telecommmunications expert, I'm sure he was busy pumping oil out of Iraq.[/quote]

and on that note....im going to bed
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin']i refuse to watch it. i watched the "helicopter kills" video, where you can see three men blown apart by heavy machinegun fire. i will not watch this.

now for what will make me hated. we deserved this. no him, he was entirely innocent in this situation, a victim of circumstances. but after the mistreatment of their prisoners, we had to expect retaliation. correct me if im wrong, but wasnt the US pushing for the whole geneva convention thing (i think), banning cruel and unusual punishment? to me this is just an eye for an eye.

i am very upset by this, and i feel sorry for him and his family.[/quote]

I, first off, am apalled by the video. The video is one of those things where you watch it not because your forced, but because it's scary and not of the norm; and we as americans thrive on things of this nature. I watched the video and I can say that instantly my blood boiled and I'm not a violent person at all, but it sparked something in me that MADE me understand why we are in Iraq in the first place. For every one bad thing you hear about in Iraq it is said that 3 good things take place, but i'll touch more on that later.

Saddam H. has been doing this to his own people for years and years and it was tolerated because of the fear that it would happen to whomever stood up to him. Now we go over there, invade there space, dethrone their leader, and yes we rebuild Iraq. Now there will always be people who rebel against the "Norm" or "Whats right," and that is what were up against now. Now to say something as fuckING ignorant as we deserved this, it makes me feel sad to live in the same country as you. To think that you can even say something like that brings tingles to my spine. If you were in a country and you watched your family be tortured, raped, and brutally murdered i guarantee you would welcome the American Soldiers with open arms. We are there to help, so what would warrant this POOR YOUNG MAN BEING BRUTALLY BEHEADED WHILE HE BEGS FOR HIS fuckING LIFE SCREAMING FOR HIS FATHER??? You pathetic ignorant child, i would never wish harm on another person, but when you stoop to the level to say "We deserved this" well guess what you deserve a good kick in the ass by someone who has fought over in Iraq.

Oh and to comment on your uneducated response of "this is what happens when you torture their POW's" This video was made weeks before any of the public humiliation of the soldiers so them saying that this was in retalliation for that is B.S. The father of Nicholas Berg knew of his sons death weeks before.

Please stay in school and read your facts before you spew out hate for america or by saying "we deserved this" i dare you to stand in front of a marine who just got back and tell him that, or better yet stand in front of Nicholas' Berg father and tell him " you know what i'm sorry for what happened to him, but Mr. Berg we deserved this"

Pathetic

Maynard

PS i don't care if you hate me for this or if you sit there and make you dumb comments on grammar, oh and by the way you should probably proof read your post

OwN3d
 
[quote name='punqsux'][quote name='RichD1']Heh, I'm so desensitized that the video doesn't effect me as much as the simple fact that an american was beheaded. The video was graphic, yes, but it didn't bother me in the least.[/quote]

this would bother me equally if it happened to anyone of any nationallity. odds are it wouldnt get much coverage here tho[/quote]

Oh, don't get me wrong, it would bother me if it was anyone other than the terrorists themselves, I mean that an American being beheaded by the people that hate us so.



trust--watching the video multiple times does. First time through was no problem--second was enough to warrant sympathy and get pissed. Honestly, though, it's pretty depressing how desensitized I've become from the internet. I wish it wasn't so.
 
[quote name='suprsaiyanMAX'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']I am not tryin to be a dick but any non military personal that goes over to Iraq has to realize that there life is on the line. Most of these non-military folk are mercenaries hired by these big companies to protect their financial interest. They are making the big bucks over there but the risk their is so great. These companies are sending men to their death for a profit. They should wait till things cool down before they start draining Iraq of its oil[/quote]

Yes, because as a telecommmunications expert, I'm sure he was busy pumping oil out of Iraq.[/quote]

What do u think the communications are for being able to make long distance calling? Every company that is in Iraq is because of the money and the major monetary maker is oil, that all that I meant
 
Actually yes I do, at least somewhat, as I understand things he was there to inspect and rebuild communication facilities that were damaged by war and looting. While US companies and forces may use those facilites, I'm sure they aren't private as many were there before the war.

As for oil being the money maker, yeah true, but that goes for the almost entire middle east and Alaska too.
 
[quote name='Maynard']I, first off, am apalled by the video. The video is one of those things where you watch it not because your forced, but because it's scary and not of the norm; and we as americans thrive on things of this nature. I watched the video and I can say that instantly my blood boiled and I'm not a violent person at all, but it sparked something in me that MADE me understand why we are in Iraq in the first place. For every one bad thing you hear about in Iraq it is said that 3 good things take place, but i'll touch more on that later.

Saddam H. has been doing this to his own people for years and years and it was tolerated because of the fear that it would happen to whomever stood up to him. Now we go over there, invade there space, dethrone their leader, and yes we rebuild Iraq. Now there will always be people who rebel against the "Norm" or "Whats right," and that is what were up against now. Now to say something as shaq-fuing ignorant as we deserved this, it makes me feel sad to live in the same country as you. To think that you can even say something like that brings tingles to my spine. If you were in a country and you watched your family be tortured, raped, and brutally murdered i guarantee you would welcome the American Soldiers with open arms. We are there to help, so what would warrant this POOR YOUNG MAN BEING BRUTALLY BEHEADED WHILE HE BEGS FOR HIS shaq-fuing LIFE SCREAMING FOR HIS FATHER??? You pathetic ignorant child, i would never wish harm on another person, but when you stoop to the level to say "We deserved this" well guess what you deserve a good kick in the ass by someone who has fought over in Iraq.

Oh and to comment on your uneducated response of "this is what happens when you torture their POW's" This video was made weeks before any of the public humiliation of the soldiers so them saying that this was in retalliation for that is B.S. The father of Nicholas Berg knew of his sons death weeks before.

Please stay in school and read your facts before you spew out hate for america or by saying "we deserved this" i dare you to stand in front of a marine who just got back and tell him that, or better yet stand in front of Nicholas' Berg father and tell him " you know what i'm sorry for what happened to him, but Mr. Berg we deserved this"
[/quote]

i understand your side and agree completely

as stated in the news....nick bergs body was found (i think) april 6th....i also think that it was said that it was one of the bodies that was dragged through the streets, burned, cut up, and hung up on the bridge
 
[quote name='trustcompany1013']\i understand your side and agree completely

as stated in the news....nick bergs body was found (i think) april 6th....i also think that it was said that it was one of the bodies that was dragged through the streets, burned, cut up, and hung up on the bridge[/quote]

Hey! Go to bed! :D
 
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